Putin replaces Sergei Surovikin & the power of Russian propaganda| Ukraine: The Latest | Podcast

Day 322.
Today, Dominic Nicholls and Francis Dearnley discuss yet another significant 24 hours in the military and diplomatic space, including the removal of General Sergei Surovikin as commander of Russian forces, and further developments on the vital question of tank deliveries to Ukraine.
Plus, Francis interviews Dr Jade McGlynn about the tangled ways in which the war is tied up with Russian national identity.
Contributors:
Francis Dearnley (Host, Assistant Comment Editor). @FrancisDearnley on Twitter.
Dom Nicholls (Associate Editor). @DomNicholls on Twitter.
With thanks to Dr Jade McGlynn.
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[@oconnorcm]

Francis: Pls have Dr McGlynn back to continue this conversation 3 more times - in the next month. She is outstanding; so much more for us to learn fm her.

[@rickwardrop1877]

I find these podcasts very informative and value the many perspectives given that we often are without, here in the USA.

[@salassian3162]

Dr Jade McGlynn, what a marvelous guest. Bring her back. please. Her insight is incredible and I'd like to hear a lot more. She's an underappreciated voice. That needs to change.

[@RegCostello]

I agree 100% and I bet we will hear a lot more from her. Incredibly informed, intelligent and insightful. Amazing that she was probably not even born when the Soviet Union collapsed.

[@OleHippy]

Lord, I really do respect and enjoy this podcast! So well done.

[@heater5979]

Cultural memory? As a Brit, who was a young boy at the time, my cultural memory is of 600,000 Russians troops entering Czechoslovakia with their tanks rolling into Prague in 1968. That memory drives me to feel that we should not be allowing Russia to do that, and al lot worse, in Ukraine today. If tanks is what it takes, send tanks. Nothing culturally "sacred" about tanks.

[@prof_kaos9341]

So true, even with "diplomatic" pressure & state repression(secret police ...) every 12 years the Soviets had to send in the tanks, 1956 Hungary - 1968 Czechoslovakia -1980 Poland -1992 Moscow(!) & finished

[@debarshiroy464]

My recent memory is that of your old queen being buried with stolen loot kept on her coffin

[@colby25]

@@debarshiroy464 My recent memory is of india descending into nationalist/fascist ideology under modi. Bye bye democracy.

[@YourSocialistAutomaton]

Issue is that the majority of troops that entered czechoslovsk were Ukrainian based units, and other warsaw pact members. So its not russia. ussr is not russia.

[@jakubmraz60]

As a Czech, I am so pissed off by the world not giving Ukrainians what they need to defend themselves and ourselves from that pure evil called Russia. The Germans should wake up already. There is nothing UA should not get to fight for us, the democracy and the world.

[@simianessence]

The whole concept of "escalation" on the part of the West vis a vis this war of unprovoked aggression by Russia is ridiculous in and of itself.

[@Henry-fk7cq]

Yet it my lead to nuclear war.

[@cindypomerleau950]

No. There will be no nukes. Putin is no where ready to recieved the wrath that would follow.

[@jameschamberlain5817]

Vis a Vis reminds me Will Ferrell playing the architect in the matrix spoof lol

[@WarriorKiwi007]

The missing aid worker Andrew is a New Zealander, who (not rare for New Zelanders) also has British citerzenship. He grew up in New Zealand and identifies as a New Zealander primarily.

[@GH_Harderstylesmixer]

Lovee this podcast

[@vincentduncan6248]

Brilliantly explained, thankyou great team,slava ukraine 👌💪💙💛💙💛

[@steve-real]

32:55 “I was struck by an outburst by Putin yesterday…” - Francis Dearnley

[@AnthonyConstable]

I wish I was as knowledgeable as the guest today.

[@marcm.]

I'm impressed with your guest

[@chaindrive_blvd]

"Know body will break us we are strong we are Ukrainians" 🇺🇦 💪

[@michaelwoods1924]

Please check your spelling. :)

[@Henry-fk7cq]

Nuclear war awaits.

[@BrianSmith-ug2bu]

His spelling is not the point, drop kick...

[@prof_kaos9341]

"I don't need a ride, I need ammo." The West needs to release the hand brake, all it does is give Tyrant Putin the initiative. And don't announce your sending tanks until they are there & in use.

[@linmal2242]

@Michael Woods@@BrianSmith-ug2bu Knear by, Kicker !

[@robertjames7982]

Send them everything they require Russia cant be allowed to win under any circumstances.

[@wesley135]

Love the podcast. Listening from Detroit Michigan

[@almiroff6949]

Any opinion poll of Americans, important to look at how question is phrased. Any reference to Biden instead of more apolitical wording will cause a negative reaction among Republicans.

[@wacojones8062]

Another great conversation as usual. As a retired US Army NCO, I was warned to never to subscribe to Twitter, TikTok or Zoom due to security concerns. Also, I am not allowed to get a passport. Age 72 with 27 years both active and in reserve units with the US Army.

[@michaelwoods1924]

Not allowed to get a passport?! I have never heard of that requirement.

[@wacojones8062]

@@michaelwoods1924 Security concerns from what I was trained in back in 1971 which was at secret level plus having two classmates killed in Vietnam as a result of drug deals, they were making. Later at a different MOS school my class leader was dealing in drugs and later was killed by the DEA. Several bodies were found under barracks that he may have been involved with. When I out processed from active duty into the reserves, I was told by the senior NCO on site that I had been blacklisted for any future passport application.

[@carly5950]

No Putin, no problem x

[@vladimirbov1614]

Сосите у Байдена 🖕

[@thewomble2351]

Will Putin remove himself when he realizes he is a complete failure?

[@cindypomerleau950]

Lol. Putin will never admit failure. That's rule #1.

[@marcm.]

Also, there was a mercenary during the Middle ages that served his king very well, so well in fact that he created a lot of enemies within the court. He was very effective as a mercenary, but at some point the king decided that he got gained too much political power. And had him killed. Unfortunately I don't remember the mercenaries name more the particular King that he served... Nor even the exact era in which this happened but it was during the late or middle middle ages. I suspect this is what's going to happen to Prigozhin

[@ago7212]

Let's hope so..

[@YourSocialistAutomaton]

This isnt the middle ages.

[@larrymitchell3502]

@@YourSocialistAutomaton Humans have, in our psychological makeup, remained remarkably consistent over milenia.

[@YourSocialistAutomaton]

@@larrymitchell3502 yeahhhh. No. Science, Technology, etc, we have not remained consistent and have been the most changing species A person from the 1900s wouldnt understand ANYTHING right now, how would a person from the 900s-1500s?

[@stephensipe5405]

This lady interviewee is nuts. The US and EU tried to support Russia via both NATO and the EU. NATO and the EU could never have forced Russia to do anything. NATO and the EU tried integration and did give financial aid to help Russian transition. The demand of NATO and the EU was acceptance of common standards of transparency. Transparency was key to NATO joint military operations with Russia. Transparency was also key to banking and financial markets accounting. Putin rebelled at NATO and EU transparency because it exposed his culture of kleptocracy in every aspect of Russian life. Putin, Russian Oligarchs, and the Russian Military looted trillions from Russia. The kleptocracy was known in industry via a mutual fund lawsuit. The Military kleptocracy was not uncovered until Ukrainians exposed it on the battlefield. This lady needs to read more about Russia; she is clueless!!!

[@johnboddie6826]

True. Democracy is not perfect but its has "checks and balances". It has transparency through the Freedom of the Press and the peaceful transition of power through constitutions and elections. Corruption is confronted through the rule of law and accountability. Communism is cocersive and supported by violence, oligarchy, and intimidation. Perhaps this is why Putin dissolved Russia's Constitution and placed himself into the presidency for life without term limitations.

[@Miketweets]

The problem with the Abrams is just the maint and fuel. Bradley has a normal engine like the MLRS so it has infrastructure for it. The m-1 just has the turbine engine which isn’t the same. Germany is looking for excuses to support Russia

[@wacojones8062]

Deals on the Leo 2 Movement will ride on which older version are compatible and available. A4 and A5 versions have been discussed by various sources. With newer ones already ordered in a least one case to refill units sending the old ones into stockpile already.

[@gunnarMyTube]

Surovikin is not replaced as battle commander. Change is that Gerasimov is now the more efficient interface for getting resources. WION had an informative story on this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIurpYywgaaXZpo

[@DominicFlynn]

TT is not like WION. TT don't have journalists that can do analysis.

[@stephenmichaelhilbourne1621]

Great listening Waiheke Island nz

[@barbarcreighton6726]

Dr Jade McGlynn is top stuff - speaks perfect Russian with only a tiny brit accent ....

[@ericwillis777]

Well, regarding supply of munitions to Ukraine it's becoming increasingly obvious that the delay is because the 'Wesrern alliance' is mainly concerned with maintaining the war long enough to completely wear down Russian military while not providing enough for a timley victory. An outright victory over Russia will only promote anger, resentment, grievance, revenge, and another, and maybe worse, war later, cf. Versailles. Better a worn out, dissillusioned, dispirited, Russia.

[@lorax8172]

100%

[@ianbanks2844]

Good point .

[@michaelwoods1924]

I also don't think the leaders of prodemocratic countries have yet had the courage to persuade their voters that they need to spend tax dollars or add to debt in order to increase weapons production to wartime levels. Debt and the potential to damage your economy are tough sales to make.

[@lorax8172]

@@michaelwoods1924 Here in the US, the majority of voters still support giving UA aid.

[@philipmain5701]

@@ianbanks2844 No it is not

[@paulmichael778]

He's really switching things around.

[@mikeavery4098]

I just hope they get those tanks before the end of January no later than 2 weeks into February

[@delmarae100]

Sirovikin did what he said he would do and is now free to concentrate on the air war he commands.

[@Miketweets]

And didn’t everyone already send t-72s?

[@lescobrandon6327]

The news is that Soledar fell not this reshuffle. Report on the real news.

[@CatalystD9]

💙💛💙😊🙏🇨🇦🖖

[@laurastreet1676]

With the tank issue. Wouldn't it be better if the West came together to only give one type of tank, such as the leopard, and everyone assists with that to ensure training is easier, maintenance etc. Or is it too simplistic and not enough tanks of a certain type.

[@oleksii8182]

There won't be enough tanks of a single type to fit the needs of the counteroffensive. Plus, we Ukrainians have become quite proficient in getting different types of kit working together.

[@APW554]

Over 2000 leopard tanks available ,problem is getting governments to part with them . But yes Ukraine has stated it needs 300 tanks and 600 IFVs don’t see why they don’t get EVERYTHING now and stop with the drip feed as it’s costing lives.

[@laurastreet1676]

@@APW554 Totally agree and at least they could get from countries closer to Ukraine. Problem is they needed them for the winter offensive. How long till any tanks will arrive.

[@sirnukealot84]

The russian tactics seem to be clowncar spam attacks, and a few % of quality troops. While ukraine are playing the long game and trying to use their forces more wisely.

[@flyingpharoah4867]

When Ukrainian propaganda calls out Russian propaganda 🤡

[@liberalmatt]

On Russian cultural memory and psyche, I highly recommend Vlad Vexler (social philosopher) here on YT.

[@galactyx1]

A united, pan-European sourcing of a single, capable tank platform, would make a compelling message to the Kremlin

[@johnchapman556]

What about discussing the Minsk agreements

[@robmessenger6895]

In listening to this English media commentary - I now better understand how the pointless, tragic slaughter of WW I came about, and was sustained. It sounds like I'm listening to the excited chatter prior to the start of a Formula 1 Race - rather than the prolonged, needless slaughter of innocents.

[@DominicFlynn]

We all respect The Telegraph's solidarity, continuing to deny news of Russia's control of Soledar long after even the ISW said it's under Russian control

[@wilstw]

wake up and send the tanks.....

[@captainbadger1013]

Far too many adverts

[@Blockay4777]

Let them into your country?

[@beaumontgile5886]

When this war is over Ukraine is going to look like Berlin after WW2 east and west Ukraine. I would put money on that prediction

[@RobertSchulze]

Könnt ihr irgendwie in Deutsch übersetzen

[@beaumontgile5886]

The fact that only thirty percent of the equipment that my hard earned taxes pay for get to the men on the front line tells me all I need to know I honestly don't want to support Ukraine until the corrupt leaders of my country and theirs get sacked and some more competent leaders get put in place.

[@samsungtap4183]

Perhaps your having a Benidic Arnold moment ?

[@robmessenger6895]

Interesting fact: As news of Russian military victories in Ukraine increase - the risk to Londoners of destruction / vaporisation by a Russian nuclear missile strike and beginning of WW3 decreases.

[@SteveJones-gz4vd]

This is Russia going from deffensive , to offensive phase, be worried

[@gagamba9198]

Not at all. This is the ebb and flow of war. It's a fluid environment.

[@SteveJones-gz4vd]

@@gagamba9198 lol rrrrriiiiight

[@dearmas9068]

Russia isnt doing very much, and wont do very much more than retreat moving forward. It's only a matter of time before Ukraine starts another offensive.

[@carolwilliams8511]

Advancing about 3k in a month. Great progress lol😅

[@treemanzoneskullyajan711]

That was a stroke of luck then aid workers body appears with proof of ID, we the good guys helping the family to repatriate the body..as for the whole in his face we dont know owt bout that

[@treemanzoneskullyajan711]

Ill have a ACR complete with grip and extenddd mag thermal red dot sight a pack of smoke grenades and 10 claymores maybe a few bouncing betty booby bombs too for a laugh

[@ShaolinTrainingShifu]

First 🎉

[@DominicFlynn]

I love it when TT decides to enable comments. So random.

[@EricChipko]

My Republican compatriots, I am a Democrat. Support Ukraine or no American with the surname -sk will ever vote Republican again.

[@prof_kaos9341]

But the GOP lunatics control the asylum. They now hold the purse strings and have that "perfect call" to justify. Klan Mum, MTG is now the "voice of reason" Debt ceiling, govt shut down ...

[@gammaraygem]

Do not worry. If republicans wont support Ukraine, Nato will. Ever heard of "bay of Tonkin" incident? Or "WMD in Irak?" That is the scenario in case GOP betrays western values. Russia must be disarmed now.

[@colby25]

Most do i believe. Just the extreme nationalist minority that are trying to take over the GOP. Unfortunately carlson is a powerful nationalist influence. Another nationalist posing as a conservative.

[@kev_sen]

This is too true they are going to lose hundreds of thousands of votes for playing dirty politics over this.

[@jeffbrooks8024]

This is the greatest arms expo in the last 50 years. The worlds arms manufacturers aka BAE, Colt, Lockheed Martin et al must be rubbing their hands together

[@samsungtap4183]

Lets face it. It's the only thing the US does well, these days...

[@peterpaul7932]

Once more, Francis is leading his Monologues (in the Meaning of the Word) way too long, to monotone, too much "as i said" repeatings, its really an up and down with him. Unfortunately. He tends to be a great Analyst, but cant get his Arguments on point - but needs to have a necessary chatter way around until he gets to his point. And then, when he finally gets there, he goes again back and forth all time... sorry Francis, today was definately not your Day!

[@treemanzoneskullyajan711]

I would be intefesfed to find out what he had in his stomach hmm for example wagner mre ingriedients maybe

[@Stiffytheenlightened]

This is the last General. After him it will have to be Putin or Lavrov

[@Henry-fk7cq]

No

[@PwnFireWaVe]

#freeAndrewTate

[@barrettjet]

The Brits and the Jerries ....blah blah blah. Do nothing. But the war rages on.

[@Balmorax]

There's no video, peeps.

[@lorax8172]

First time here? This is a podcast, no need for images.

[@gagamba9198]

Never have been.

[@robertsteele474]

@@lorax8172 KZbin is a video channel.

[@dearmas9068]

Rober Steele and Balmorax are Russian troll accounts

[@Balmorax]

@@dearmas9068 Ukraine was invaded by a Russian aggressor and me and Bob are just looking for a video to this audio

[@theeffectiveprogressive]

I wish the US would just step up to the plate. Game on.

[@21163189]

O

[@johntrinci9445]

Love the propaganda. Very entertaining, like the briefings from that Iraqi press secretary (cap'n bob? can't remember the guy's name). How are these "journalists" ever going to live this down? 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@riversidegardenradio9070]

So, let us take the whole thing from the start. Ukronazis had, before the Russian invasion, 2.400 tanks, they recieved another 300 during the summer, now they are going to recieve 50 Bradleys, 40 Marders, some French " light tanks" on wheels, 12 to 14 Leopards 2 from the Poles, and 10 Challenger, 2 from the Brits. According to the western, and ukronazi BSers, the ukies had in the middle of the summer more tanks than those they had before this war started, because they were " capturing " scores of Russian tanks... So, from that "excellent" state, now we have mr Zaluzhny, in his interview with " Newsweek " to beg his western sponsors for : 300 tanks, 600 to 700 infantry fighting velicles, and 500 artillery pieces, implying that if he will not get them, the party will be over soon.draw your own conclusions about : the volume of BS we have heard from the NATO / Uki gang, the volume of losses in all kinds of equipment the ukros have suffered up to now, and about the " vast " help they will recieve in the coming months. Just to put the new western supplies in perspective : they can equip one ( 1 ) ukronazi brigate. So much for the " Spring offencive ". Now, with regards to the " game changing " western armor, in 2019 the Turks lost 10 Leopards 2 in Syria, in 2016 the Saudis lost 20 Abrams M1 in Yemen, in 2007, a scandal erupted in the British Army when 2 Challengers 2 were destroyed in Irag, while their protection mechanisms failed to function in both cases. All of those losses were inflicted by goat herders with white robes, sandals and old Soviet RPGs. It takes no genius to understand what will happen, when the " game changing " Behemoths will appear on the ukrainian battlefields against a combined arms army, Reputational disaster, after the physical of course. In addition, the western tanks, do not have an autoloading mechanism, as the Soviet, and Russian have.So, instead of 3 persons crew the ukies used to have, now they have to use 3 + 1 loader. Also, the Challengers 2 have a rifle gun, which is different from the Leopards, and all the other kinds of tanks, and uses different types of shells. In conclusion : If there is anybody who believes that the ukies will manage to have 4 persons crews trained, in at least 2 different types of tanks in due time, and they will manage to get something usefull with the one ( 1 ) brigate that they will muster, i have a bridge to sell him in down town Kiev. PS. The ukronazis are right, Soledar has not fallen yet, because they took with them, while fleeing, a road sign with the name of the town...😂😂

[@trikepilot101]

Half of Republicans means about 25% of Americans. That means 75% of Americans are in favour of continued aid to Ukraine.

[@oldchunkofcoal2774]

Insanely moronic claims

[@tinawilson4120]

Ukraine stop get ready for Putin's nuclear ship

[@cindypomerleau950]

That's funny. Why would Putin put a nuclear target on the rest of his fleet...and perhaps St Petersburg and/or Moscow.

[@dearmas9068]

Putin is a coward. He will never launch a nuke.

[@jeffbrooks8024]

@@cindypomerleau950 and Kaliningrad and the Kola peninsula

[@1channel4all45]

Glory to RUSSIA 🔥😎😳🤓😯

[@colby25]

Glory to imperial fascism then. The last time it happened in europe. 50 million died worldwide. What glory?

[@matthewrussell8590]

Ukrainian mouthpiece

[@chaindrive_blvd]

No, totally unbiased...

[@paulhadlington8179]

better than Russian Arsewipe!

[@robertsteele474]

@@chaindrive_blvd 🤣🤣🤣

[@colby25]

Putin Zombie mouthpiece.