Putin's Russia-What Happened?

[@rogerp566]

She completely dismantled his article and arguments. Carl, please have Nina on again and again.

[@edwardallan197]

Thank you!

[@obione69]

Oh yeah, i love Nina. She has amazing analytical skills

[@jawadkazmi5327]

Nina's critique was pertinent and she clarified a lot of misconceptions that get paddled around.

[@metrohex]

Thank you to Nina

[@obione69]

Nina is amazing. Her ability to differentiate provable facts versus DC talking points is desperately needed.

[@UnbihexiumTheStable]

Nina points out all the correct criticisms of Papa here. This whole thing about Putin talking to Davos people is like the conspiracy theory that he's Jewish because he met with Israeli leaders and went to the Wailing Wall. Putin was deeply involved with many western leaders at many times because he's a statesman. He wanted to work together with the West regardless of how insane its elites may be. He still always criticized many of their initiatives, most famously at the Munich speech in 2007 and at Davos in 2016(?). He's not a neoliberal, he just wanted to fine a modus vivendi with the neoliberals.

[@PerceivedREALITY999]

Instead of arming Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan; US tax payer money should be spent on infrastructure, healthcare, education, homelessness etc.

[@-mattv]

Yes, please have Nina on again to clear the air. After watching 2 separate uploads with AgitPapa, he seems completely incredible.

[@rcmrcm3370]

The quality of Russia's STEM graduates, IMNHO, is much higher than USA.

[@Aam-xy9vd]

I've heard this too, an opinion that's widely shared by the foreign students that I, myself, have come across.

[@kathym6603]

@@Aam-xy9vd I'm guessing you are correct. I see the American system as "babyfied" by everything from toxins in the food to fluoride in the water ... not to mention to evil forces turning the education system to push critical race theory and the enforcement of drugs on the budding geniuses.

[@vanzikky]

Very good to have the two differing stances discussing it out, well done, more of that 👍 Talking (not screaming) about controversial views is so much more interesting than just tooting down the same horn all the time, something that is really missing in today's media. Usually if you don't agree, you're out. Good unbiased moderation too on Carls part 🙂

[@JohnSmith-bx3zj]

The guy is clueless, why bring him on? Geopolitical analyst my ass.

[@Aam-xy9vd]

He's giving the American main stream media line, total bullshit.

[@matthewhole458]

Why do you have a guy come on to talk about Russia when he clearly has no expertise in this area? Couldn’t get past first 5 minutes

[@suecosueco]

AgitPapa was a little caotic and hit the wall by nina. putin save the modern russia.

[@rebeccatan8]

Great show Carl! Very insightful to hear about Russia from Nina…

[@rcmrcm3370]

Sorry Carl. 1st World was USA and other colonial masters, 2nd World was USSR and it's orbit, and 3rd world was nations not aligned with either of these blocks (including China only after Khrushchev broke the alliance, not long before Bandung Conference).

[@PerceivedREALITY999]

Zelensky didn't try to prevent the conflict through diplomacy because he lacks honor and integrity. In 2014 there was a coup. Soon after, there was a massacre in Odessa (dozens of people were burned alive). Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. A civil war broke out due to the rise in ethnic tensions. For 8 years the Ukrainian military was indiscriminately shelling civilians living in Donbas. If Zelensky honored the Minsk agreement and pledged neutrality, none of this would have happened. The 8 year civil war would have ended and Donbas would have remained part of Ukraine. War is the ultimate failure of diplomacy. Zelensky, Poroshenko, Merkel and Hollande admitted that Ukraine had no intention to honor the Minsk agreements. Who didn't want peace? Who advised against the 2022 peace talks in April? Hint: someone visited Zelensky in Kiev at that time. Russia's national security was compromised once NATO began to expand eastwards. Russia clearly stated that Ukraine joining NATO was a red line (November 2021) and unfortunately this concern was never taken seriously. The Russians openly stated: if nothing changes, we will be forced to act in order to defend our national security. Enhancing the national security of one country at the expense of another is unacceptable. The Russians have legitimate security concerns. 20th September, 2021: Ukraine launched military drills with US and NATO. NATO is not a defensive alliance. NATO illegally bombed Yugoslavia (a direct violation of the U.N. Charter). We should never forget what they did to Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq etc. Who blew up the pipeline causing an environmental disaster? Zelensky banned all opposition and arrested a leading priest. Zelensky tried to invoke article 5 under false pretenses. Remember the incident in Poland. Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. Poroshenko said, “Our children will go to schools and kindergartens-theirs will hide in the basements”. Russians will never forget the 2014 Odessa massacre. The whole world needs to know about it. Why was Denis Kireev eliminated? He was a member of Ukraine's negotiating team during the peace negotiations. He wanted to help his country. Ukraine has a hit list. They target artists, journalists and ordinary citizens. Hundreds of children are on this list. 13 year old Faina Savenkova was placed on this list. Pink Floyd's Roger Waters is on this list. Jimmy Dore (American stand-up comedian, podcaster) and Aaron Maté (Canadian writer and journalist) are on this list. There is evidence that Ukrainian troops have been indiscriminately shelling civilians in Donbas (they used petal mines and targeted areas where there was no military presence). The azov troops trapped in the azovstal steelworks in Mariupol used human shields. They refused to allow civilians to leave despite of humanitarian corridors being present. Russia held a proposed cease fire in order for the civilians to leave, but azov would not allow the civilians to leave. Ukraine has committed many acts of terrorism (car bombs and other forms of assassination). Darya Dugina (journalist) R.I.P. The first terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed the truck driver and the individuals in the adjacent car (innocent civilian victims). The second terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed two parents and severely injured their young daughter. I have done a lot of research and it took me a long time to write this comment. I have stated a lot of facts and I have given my honest opinion. I have provided a brief summary of events that took place. In order to explain this whole situation in great detail, a book would need to be written. Hopefully someone will write an UNBIASED book, stating facts and allowing the readers to form their own judgments. Everything I said can be fact checked and verified.

[@jazzocat]

This guy’s sources seems to be strung together bias Wikipedia articles

[@cachch]

Boy, this was a wild episode. I already follow Nina Bizantina, I don't know agitpapa.

[@craigrik2699]

I'm following Nina now, first time I've seen her, she was great, Carl tried to bring nuance to AgiPapa's 'information' but he needed an expert, Nina was it.

[@niarlatotepbasset]

That guy Agit Papa, or whatever, could at least write down those names properly, it's Patrushev (the guy is intelligence service). Sounds like he heard story one time in some WaPo bar and is now making up his own story

[@christinecoughlan4699]

GRACIAS POR INFORMAR .

[@goransnow2180]

Earth is flat for tis dude

[@suecosueco]

putin remember the soviets in a good way sometimes. i wish he remember more the actual russia have his solid foundation made soviet union of lenin and stalin leadership

[@kobemop]

This is interesting. This needs to be done again.

[@suecosueco]

i in general like putin. i like less of him when he left syria fall and little help for palestine and bad mouth the soviet union.

[@obione69]

In his closing remark, agitpapa really did summarise his perspective really well.. "You have to use your imagination a bit." This is what really annoys me about these people. I like facts that can be sourced outside of some DC or London based think tank. Things that can be proven..

[@basque888]

You could've hosted this better, it just went back and forth. Guy had a questionable article, she had doubts. Nothing interesting was gained watching this.

[@suecosueco]

i disgree that was not interesting. i agree the guy was caotic and nina made the show be good

[@craigrik2699]

He couldn't defend his article is the point, Nina highlighted the majority of his 'facts' as being Western media talking points, very important and great episode

[@HanS662]

Oh man… the writer is suffering from Western information bubble world. I suffer from this too.. it’s hard to break out

[@musicman7773]

Sach's and Mearshiemer always get a side eye

[@AkumaQiu]

Nina brought smoke

[@Aam-xy9vd]

The Prager U ads that keep interupting this show are full of shi+!

[@craigrik2699]

I sort of felt sorry for AgitPapa when Nina started laying down the fact check hammer but then, not. AgitPapa sounds like the ultimate conspiracy theorist, bending 'facts' to suit a narrative. Up until the start of the SMO, I wasn't following Russia thinking it was just another neolib state (I was actually following China). Doing some light research on KZbin (before they were all taken off) I came across vids of President Putin, a good one was showing Putin visiting a town that had just been hit by a flood in 2019. Watching him and his interaction with the people was an eye opener, after his speech, his handlers tried to move him on, Putin took questions, next thing you know, he's amongst the crowd, listening and writing notes furiously, he stood there for 20 minutes, most of his replies were that the state had provided the provincial government those stores people were asking about (tents, water purification units, food etc), he promised to get on top of it. He then went outside, onto a street corner where 100's of people were vying with questions for him. He again, waded into the crowd, listening and taking notes. Was this the madman dictator I was hearing about? The next vid I saw was Putin in a budget meeting with governors of provinces. All was going well, governors were all reporting in with what they had been implementing on areas they had all agreed to. It wasn't until the end when Putin asked why no province had spent the agreed upon budget on language tutors. All the governors thought the money was better spent in economic development. Putin spoke, first, he pointed out that they ALL agreed on the language development budget, secondly and most importantly, he spoke about the importance of the language and the protocols the come out of that to the people, to the nation. Nothing they did beyond that, was more important, it was all about the Russian culture and people. I was sold then as a Putin fan. As a Maori in New Zealand, we see our language or Te Reo as fundamental to who we are as a people and society, and most importantly, the future of our existence. What Putin said, and how he said it, I have seen all my life from our Maori leaders, fathers and mothers, I got and get what he was saying. Put like that, the governors also agreed, I'm glad Nina was here, thanks Carl.

[@HanS662]

@18:23 that’s why I think sachs is trying so hard to stop all the major conflicts between US, RU, and CH He saw what he had a hand in and is trying to give penance.

[@edwardallan197]

Re-immagining history in Russia invites idealist silliness and context errors. Russia was plummeting, it was not 'ideals of democracy' time imo.

[@malaydhar917]

Russian specialist or propaganda ? 🤔🤔-bmd

[@woodytobiasjr8265]

In america, they are the same thing.

[@daveh5947]

Nah.....gotta go back to Gorbachev and start from there! Can't listen to this guy, starting in Mid Stream!

[@chrrrles9363]

Not a good stream... too many interuptions to adjudicate on sources for a subject most are not familiar with.

[@edwardallan197]

A bit of straw man rhetoric. Putin is popular, respected & admired ( in some circles) for a few HUGE accomplishments. The "idolizing" is just a reaction to billions spent on demonization. I saw it and see it here in the USA. Where I was born into and immersed in irrational Russia hate for 70 years. ❤

[@edwardallan197]

My anti U.S. imperialism does not require unrealistic perfection from the non-empire world. That is a trick flip.

[@acehampton4627]

Again!

[@Ibtisam.Mohammed-d2l]

والله العظيم ماكتبت هاذا المناشده الا من الجوع والفقر ياعالم حسو فينا سِالُتكِ بّالُلُُه انَ تْنَقًذَنَا قًبّلُ انَ نَمٌوَتْ مٌنَ شِدِتْ الُجْوَع انَتٌْخيَكِ انَيَ دٌِخلُةِ ْعلُى الُلُُه تْمٌ ْعلُيَكِ انَيَ فَيَ وَجُْهك انَـيَ اخـتْكِ انَـيَ اتْرَجْـاكِ اتْـوَسِـلُ الُـيَـكِ انَـقًـذَنَا لُـوَجُْـه الُـلُُـه. يَــشِــُهدِ الُــلُــُه يَاٌخـيَ انَ مٌنَ الُــصّــبّاحُ حُـتْا الُـانَ يَــحُــرَمٌ ْعـــلُيَـنَـا الاكل غير الماء ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' اخي اول كلامي انا اقسم بالله على كتاب الله اني لااكذب عليك ولا انصب ولا احتال اني بنت يمنيه من اليمن نازحين من انا واسرتي بيننا ایت الشهرب 20 الف يمني والان علينا 60 الف حق 3 شهور وصاحب البيت من الناس الي ماترحم والله يا اخي انه يجي كل يوم يبهدلنا ويتكلم علينا ويريد من البيت للشارع لانناماقدرنا ندفعله الأجار شافونا الجيران نبكي ورجعو تكلمو الجيران ومهلنالاخره الأسبوع معادفعنا له حلف يمين بالله هذا بيخرجنا إلى الشارع رحمه واحنا. بلادنا بسبب هذا الحرب ولانجد قوت يومنا وعايشين اناوامي واخوتي سفار والدنا متوفي الله يرحمه ومامعنا أحد في هذا الدنيا جاانبنا في هذه الظروف القاسيه اخوتي الصغار خرجو للشارع وشافو الجيران ياكلو واوقفو عند بابهم لجل يعطوهم ولو كسره خبز والله الذي له ملك السموات والارض انهم غلفو الباب وطردوهم ورجعو یبکو ایموتو من الجوع ما احد رحمهم وعطلة ردها لقمت عیش والان لوما احدنا ساعدنا في إيكيلو دقيق اقسم بالله انموت من الجوع فيا اخي انا دخيله على الله ثم عليك واريد منك المساعده لوجه الله انشدك بالله تحب الخير واتساعدني ولو ب 500 ريال يمني مع تراسلي واتساب على هذا الرقم 00967713342392 وتطلب اسم بطاقتي وترسلي ولاتتاخر وايعوضك الله بكل خير اخواني سغار شوف كيف حالتهم وساعدنا وأنقذنا قبل أن يطردونا في الشارع تتبهدل أو نموت من الجوع وانا واسرتي نسالك بالله لولك مقدره على مساعد لاتتاخر علينا وجزاك الله خيراπ~π~π~π~÷~ππ~π~^~°÷~π~÷~π~π~π~π÷~π~÷~π~π

[@ON-THE-FIELD]

the guy is a complete hack!! bad bad move!!

[@edwardallan197]

Carl can do better. Yep.....

[@edwardallan197]

Video header is sorta click bait too......