Putting A Swytch Kit On My £5000 Racing Bike

Electric Bike conversion on a £5000 racing bike, why not? We test the new version of the Swytch kit in some challenging conditions.
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[@thebikepackingadventurer]

Great bit of kit for people who already have a bike but don’t use it due to effort or fitness. Anything that gets more people on bikes is a good thing

[@Cade_Media]

Yes!

[@christopherprice-hq5sy]

for those living in hilly environments and hauling a trailer it is... kinda indispensable.

[@thebikepackingadventurer]

@@christopherprice-hq5sy a great assist for someone that it can help get up climbs and smile rather than grimace 👌🏻💪🏻

[@whynotride327]

It is no longer a bike, it is now a motorcycle.

[@thebikepackingadventurer]

@@whynotride327 power assist is nothing like a motorcycle. It assists the power, doesn’t provide it. It’s a good thing

[@terryschultz7352]

Yes I love mine. 66 kms today with plenty of climbs, and the motor to save my life/ get me home. Incidentally I am nearly 80, and this will I hope extend my riding life - it already has actually. So easy to fit and plenty of advice available. I don’t understand those who complain.

[@monkeyboy7981]

I bought one of these, it arrived last Thursday. The reason I bought one is because my partner is only 4'10" and nobody makes a light, non folding, sensible ebike for an adult of that size. I didn't expect to be wowed by the swytch conversion but it's surprisingly good. I've fitted it to her Carrera Saruna 13" frame with 26" wheels and it rides well. And as for the bit where you mentioned finding out how to speed it up, I was straight onto that. It'll run at over 20mph when you tell it it's got 16" wheels and you also turn the max kph up to 31 👍

[@markjthomson]

Will be interesting to see how this goes. Recently saw a frame with a failed bottom tube. The guy had fitted a similar system to his road bike and it appeared the frame didn't like the power being applied through front wheel in that manner. Obviously there are a whole lot of other reasons it may have failed in that area but keep an eye on your bottom tube near the headset area.

[@JohnLemieux]

The other interesting thing about this is that since it uses the front wheel it converts your bike to all wheel drive. Throw some snow tires on that thing and try it in winter.

[@JackofNothingess]

I never thought of that! This would be a perfect on a gravel or fat-tire bike for the winter.

[@alanashizume5651]

Would need to slap some insulation on the battery, otherwise the cold would leech all the energy out of the battery.

[@swecreations]

@@alanashizume5651 depends on what battery type they used, but yes if it's not lithium batteries made to handle low-temperatures insulation would fix that.

[@nebnollock5198]

​@@alanashizume5651 not actually that bad on ebikes, I've ridden an electric fat bike with a Shimano battery and motor in Finland (-26 degrees) and it was fine

[@gur123noor]

@@nebnollock5198What electric e-bike do you use in the cold/ snow/ ice? Any other tips for new winter e-bike rider and a new immigration to a cold region (Canada)? (O am from India - no snow)

[@enuazeal]

so what was the weight on 7.26kg road bike after install?

[@MikeWestern-ul1rm]

Great video guys I am looking to change a couple of old bikes in our shed to give them a new lease of life. This kit looks just what we need for shopping and backwards and forwards to the pub. I am 80 years old but still play a lot of golf and do my large garden so luckily still very fit and a very handy with anything mechanical. Thank you again for your inspiration. Mike Western

[@fredcrane5079]

I installed my Max Swytch on my 11sp Dura-Ace equipped road bike. I did not install the pedal sensor and solely rely on a throttle. Most of my rides approach 50 miles (80km), so I carry a spare Max in a slim frame bag just above the seatpost water bottle cage. Some of my rides exhaust both batteries over hilly terrain, but flattish ones can get me close to 60km on a charge, before swapping them out. So far over my two months of operation, I've accumulated around 500 miles and with complete satisfaction with the system. Overall, it adds about 8 pounds to my bike's original 18 pound weight, but keep in mind about me carrying a second battery. Complete electric bikes exist out there with greater range, more power, and similar final weight, but most cost over four grand.

[@tonyjmcd]

Always guys very informative, would be great to have the option for miserable commuting day - luckily working from home means only two days in the office, if I was in 5 days I'd defo consider one of the kits

[@igorsajn6246]

I have a new Swytch kit for about a month and it works great on my trecking bike. I do not use it on top level 5/5 100% power (all the time) but rather just turn it on for steeper slopes above 5% or stronger wind conditions. And if you use it like that, range for smaller Air battery is far beyond 30 km. In the summer I am gonna test it on mountains terrain (10-20% slopes) and see how long the Air and Max battery will last. Thx guys for your videos. Greetings from Slovenia

[@mindfulnessbringshope]

Hey there! Did you ever test this on mountainous terrain? I’d be curious to know how many k’s this would do if it was only used intermittently or just for hills. Thanks 😊

[@igorsajn6246]

@@mindfulnessbringshope Not yet, but in 2 weeks I am taking a longer ride with a 15 km 7.2% avg. slope (5-15%) - very TDF like - and I can report to you later how it goes. I aim to use just Air battery for slope alone and see, if I could get to the top without switching back to Max.

[@adrenalinemike]

@@igorsajn6246 Thanks for replying. That TDF style ride sounds like a perfect test of the Air battery! I'd love to hear how that goes as that would be the kind of ride I would like to do. I've got a Max kit on order supposedly for delivery next month. I'd like to be able to ride longer distances and only use the Swytch motor for inclines. Thanks again! Mike. Just realised I'm signed in with a different account, but @mindfulnessbringshope is also me!

[@alanashizume5651]

Biggest selling point for me is that when the battery dies, or if I get bored of the kit all together, I can easily remove it all and still have a great road bike left over. Dedicated ebikes are too heavy once the battery dies. And proprietary ebike batteries that stop being sold mean that eventually the ebike becomes massive ewaste.

[@Hyfly13]

100% tried that at home - if it doesn't fit chop the bracket off with side cutters - no biggie, you're not affecting the capsule and they accepted my warranty application video.

[@davidk2471]

Not sure I'd do what he did but I do like my Swytch kit if you don't need to go super far or super fast . Very happy with mine.

[@rivnuts7398]

You should bring back Justin once in a while.

[@chrisjoyce5539]

I have back injury so I can't do long miles on my racing bike at the moment but I still cycle to work on my hybrid bike. I might think about that for bike how much is it👍

[@johnnunn8688]

@@chrisjoyce5539 what?

[@southdowntim]

Does the Switch kit work on a hand cycle?? Video idea

[@billinhouston3291]

Same Rivnuts from GAP Trail?

[@aldepal]

You should do more janky ebike conversions. Like take a single speed klunker and put a Pedal assist on it! As an avid cyclist it’s hard to say that I’ve really enjoyed ebikes. It enables me to bike commute everyday. Like I would ride my Regular bike one day and my Ebike the next as a kind of ‘Rest Day’ 😄

[@grahambell9831]

Very canny set up & honest review gents 👏. Gear such as this to help folks get out and help them ride their bikes can only be a good thing 👍

[@phillip2662]

I've just ordered one, I'll see how it goes.

[@jerrypritchard9605]

Thanks for the video, I’ve been looking at their product for a little while now and I think you’ve convinced me. So thanks ( Jerry from Canada)

[@DC-lu5qs]

I'm really intrigued to try this out for my partner. She has little interest in cycling but might join me once in a while if she had an e-bike. Trouble is, the selection in her size (150cm tall) is pretty thin. Seems like a retro kit might open up options. As always, I absolutely love the tinkering and hardware hackery. As a great man once said "If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy"

[@timothymburton]

Bought one for my wife - my dad ordered one too.

[@lonestarlaurel]

Lol 💚 Happy trails 🐾🎶

[@percival3830]

Loads of fun! There's always a bit of weather around Derwent Reservoir and up on Waskerley Way.

[@tandemoniousd8493]

I ordered one of these based on your first video with the old model. Still hasn't arrived yet but should be here any time. I'm putting it on an Electra Townie 7 speed cruiser. We live in Florida and this should be perfect for running errands and such. Fingers crossed.

[@tandemoniousd8493]

It just arrived today!

[@LAC-rh7cg]

I have two max battery kits.. Love them .. Use them at the end of long ride in case I run out of energy.

[@robbchastain3036]

These kits definitely serve a need, I don't have the Swytch kit tho' I do have a Green Zone Bikes kit with Samsung battery and thumb throttle on my commuter and it is still a lot of fun to have and ride on a 28-mile round-trip commute, not enough power for all the way either way but when the weather is warm, I can pretty much stretch it to cover the sections where I want assistance and that's more the false flats and boring flats than ramps and rises which I tend to attack out of the saddle lest I use up the juice in the battery on those. And you are right, so much better to ride a bike with a dead battery on a kit than a full-on heavy e-bike with a dead battery, no comparison. And when I run out of juice, either in the colder months or from riding into work with lots of assistance to beat the time clock, I'm pretty much okay with it as it was nice to have the assistance while it lasted. And all in all it is just a fascinating learning curve to apply an e-bike kit to your own riding style and, O the joy, when I run errands around town on my commuter on a day-off work, I'm essentially riding a silent motorcycle as I can basically let the motor freely power me a mile here and three miles there, such fun.

[@raymondii436]

I ordered one of these for a folding bike. For the price of the kit, and the folding bike I bought (A Giant)....I will have spent a lot more money than just buying a complete e-bike. If I bought an e-bike, you are relying on the e-bike not breaking and being able to get replacement parts (especially the battery) years later. What I like about these kinds of kits is: it's completely reversible....you can revert it back to a regular bike....something you can't do with an e-bike. Also, I find most e-bikes very clunky and heavy. This Swytch kit is more compact and simple.

[@petertreadway]

Interesting to see this in action. I chatted to the Swytch guys at The Cycle Show last year and it seemed like a well priced alternative to a full e-bike. This would definitely serve the majority of people I know who commute to work in London.

[@bikecommuter24]

Good idea, my commute to work is uphill and I ride a Hybrid 8 speed to work and for errands and I don't really need e- assist (maybe in a few years when I get old lol I'm 60), if I was getting a second bicycle I think I would use save up and just buy an e-bike outright

[@Kwikstyle]

Switch kits should be fold out solar charging like the bear grills charger you could fold it out as u camp/rest or run out of juice

[@ah-64apache84]

Everyone knows that 5000 pounds is way too much for a racing bike! If you want a good riding experience you should stay below 11 kilos!

[@bigmac5217]

I ride 17 mile to work without the battery and use the battery to commute home 17 mile 982 ft elevation It’s always lasted the full journey (old type battery)

[@kieranscrutton6037]

Will you be releasing the “Wild” t shirt that Francis is wearing guys!? Love the colour

[@kbekla1451]

i have a converted Carrera hellcat 29" but went with a 250w torque mid drive motor from tongsheng, about £100 cheaper than the swytch with a 13ah battery and found for hills etc this is better overall, did have a rear wheel motor prior but found it a fair bit heavier, we also have a peak trail 3e (rear hub) and a raleigh forge (front hub) and the mid drive feels more natural and has a fair bit more range, and was easier to install than the hub motors with the cadence sensors and controllers, range on this swytch kit is pretty bad tho our worst bike is the forge and that manages 35 miles on max assist, the hellcat will do about 30 miles on half a battery

[@akokada973]

Put this on a e-bike. So it can be a ee-bike :)

[@DC-lu5qs]

would the e's cancel out and its back to a regular bike? Or would it be e-squared? Extradimensional cycling? We demand answers, Francis!

[@akokada973]

@@DC-lu5qs would be e^2

[@somecyclist]

I bought one only because I work as a deliveroo rider and I'm often riding 30 - 40 miles a day, in London it's not so bad but in Birmingham, the hills can be tough. So I bought this, the bigger battery and I expected to get 30 miles from it (waited 7 months nearly so it will arrive soon). When I worked for Just Eat Takeaway full time I was doing 500+ miles a month easily for 15 months. But I still didn't get an electric bike. So I guess I'm not like most riders who pick this up and I actually need a lot of mileage, however, as I'm used to doing the 30 miles on a regular single speed road bike, I am hoping that even if my pedal assisted miles are cut short, that it will still be worth it JUST for the hills and to make me a bit less tired out. Even if I can just cruise along with the lowest pedal assist or with none sometimes, then put it up to 5 for the hills, I am hoping that it will be enough for a day. As I do really need about 40 miles. I'm using light tires, single speed so less weight from components, and barely anything at all on the bike so hopefully, it will be very ridable even when not using the battery, on flat road (I would save some battery for the hills coming back home). I am already quite a strong cyclist, but sometimes I don't want to be sweating my ass off and working out just to make a few quid. I'm also hoping to switch job and use it to save thousands a year on my commute, and it will just make further away journeys much more manageable.

[@DominiqueB]

did you receive your kit, and if so, what's your experience? I like your use scenario, i'd be interested to know if it works for you and does last you all day.

[@Khalidazizphoto]

I think its an awesome product, when you can get hold of and install it but I herad it can take up to 6-12 month for shippment and customer support is terrible. and the other thing is Warranty issues since the UK isn't i the EU anymore and it's a UK based Company BTW I live in Germany

[@BrizzleRocker]

The return of Pump Action Francis! I'd love to hear about any follow up to the USA adventure epic sometime?

[@DP-PhD]

Interesting experiment and top job to actually try to get it fitted! If you’d got it on the 5k bike wouldn’t the torque from the motor have buggered up the carbon fork/dropouts?

[@johnnunn8688]

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@DP-PhD]

@@johnnunn8688 ‘Forgot to mention the torque arm! It’s the silver metal piece that attaches to the fork. Torque arm will help dampen the rotational forces generated by the front hub drive. Highly recommended if you have carbon forks like me (Swytch will send you one if you ask for it).’

[@DanRC69]

I was seriously considering getting a Swytch Kit, but the lack of power, poor range and limited wheel choice kind of made it a poor alternative to more powerful and better value kits out there. Its ONLY benefit is its form factor, as some other kits are HUGE that come with a mess of cabling and an unnecessarily HUMONGOUS control box.

[@ToThePointCT]

Yeah unfortunately it's just a gimmick that everybody seems to be falling for. I just bought a yose power conversion kit for £380 including the battery and it's absolutely phenomenal

[@kenobrien7971]

I would like to get a Swytchbyke kit for my £5,000 carbon road bike. Unfortunately, you gave no details about why the sensor did not fit. Can you tell us what gap is needed between the crank arm and the frame for it to fit? Thank you

[@SonnyDarvishzadeh]

For that price, I recommend an older Bosch E-bike with 400wh battery. You can find them under 2500 and they're well supported everywhere. And you don't need to fiddle with the setup of your bike, especially the wheel.

[@elwoodzo]

Great review thanks - been looking at those to fit on an old bike for my da....

[@marvin.nazari]

Would love to see more of that Jimmy’s bike 😮

[@koladearasanmi2005]

Is it waterproof??i live in England and this could be handy for my commute

[@alanashizume5651]

Sorta? I would not throw it into a pond, but it is definitely water resistant. The cable connectors have a very tight rubber fit and the battery pack is in a nice water resistant skin. But the installation instructions specified that the power cable going into the hub motor must be orientated plugging into the bottom of the hub, which makes me suspect that if the cable was not orientated properly, water could drip down the power cable into the hub and cause problems since the hub cable does not seem to be adequately sealed to the hub. I would be ok riding in a light drizzle, but any water splashing back up from below, or a good soaking torrential rain, I might suspect would cause problems at the hub and battery connector in the long term.

[@zachs6191]

video aboout jimmis cargo bike please!

[@henkwildeman6201]

LOL 7:40 the bike completely changes :D

[@cb6866]

Thanks Francis and Jimmi......interesting .!

[@dmannfishing7425]

I have issues with front hub motors. Forks aren't designed to pull a bike

[@peternewman293]

Great video. I wanted a Swytch kit for my Canyon Roadlite. Unfortunately it has thru axles so will not fit and I do not want to convert to quick release. Waiting for the Skarpa to come out which fits to the rear rotor and I am very interested in. Hope you do a review when it is available.

[@jensenhealey907efi]

Please talk about new laws in NYC that relate to ebikes and batteries sold in NYC having to meet UL certification and how if this speads to other locals will affect the ebike industry. Are these switch kit batteries UL certified?

[@ChrisP978]

But does it work on a £10K custom built hand cycle?

[@Cade_Media]

The burning questions we need to know the answer to

[@Trebz50]

Can someone post the link to the 90's bike electric conversion please, I can't find it.

[@edwardsjohnpaul]

I'd love this for a dutch bike, but I've no idea how long it will take to get one, and I've no idea how much it's going to cost (!). What a terrible way to treat customers.

[@timothymburton]

I bought one for my wife. Did the first ride on it today - mixed impressions. For some reason, it cuts out on the hills, which is, unfortunately, exactly where the help is needed most. Hope fully it was just the cadence sensor being moved during transport. Did you guys have any issues with random assistance, or more likely to have consistent power on the flats?

[@bockersjv]

Your tool wall is just begging for a Shadow Foam installation. Would look great in Park Tool blue with some Cade branding.

[@shelleytween3872]

Frankly, there is no customer service. If you are not a bike mechanic or if you don't know a bike mechanic, fitting all the bits together is near impossible. No one to call, no response to emails, no chat. No videos that show assembly of the small bits up close. After waiting 6 months for my kit to arrive, again without communication, I am now struggling to get my bike on the road. 😢😢😢😢😢

[@anaa9245]

How did you get the throttle on… it looks thick

[@brianday52]

Great video thanks guys😊 I've a 2010 Trek Fuel EX 9.9 carbon full sus bike I'm hoping to fit the latest Swytch Bike kit too....I've the same issue regarding no space for the magnet ring between the frame,BB & the crank arm, it seems to have proved impossible for you to fit that magnet ring in position....is it a 'no go' for me and my carbon frame ? 😢

[@mysistersaship]

Can you use this kit without the display? I ordered it and it didn't come with one and now the company isn't getting back to me.

[@Henrik.A]

The connectors are called HIGO....if anybody was wondering.

[@kjm-ch7jc]

I would have thought a torque sensor would have been better.

[@leerike1880]

the opening of dropout slot on my old Specilized Expedition is 9mm. The axle on the Swytch wheel I just received in the mail is 10mm. How do I get it to fit on a CrMo metal forks slots? any ideas would be appreciated

[@Chrisblottphoto]

Here's a question totally unrelated to this video. I ride a large road bike (58cm) surely the performance, stresses, and handling will be different on a large compared to the same bike in a small. No?

[@05lmcmahon]

Thank Jimi!

[@niekvandenberg205]

I’m enjoying the bike so far kzbin.infoUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA My only real complaints are the brakes and the pedals. I feel like a bike designed for bigger people should have much larger pedals and more heavy duty brakes. I’ve only gotten two really good rides out of it, minimal downhill action, and the brakes feel like they’re already going out. A larger person has more momentum, so I think this wasn’t thought through very well. Also, I wear size 13-14 wide shoes. My feet cramp up on these pedals that are clearly made for smaller feet. Since I’m not a pro rider (and I don’t think many are who purchase this bike) I don’t think that the straps on the pedal are necessary at all. None of this takes away from the enjoyment I get from riding, however. I’ll just head to a bike shop to improve on a few things.

[@unclespliff_productions]

finally a real road bike with rim brakes ;)

[@PinchDaddyDog]

Mine arrived last week, unfortunately I need the 9mm not 10mm bolt axle thing. I have messaged Swytch as per instruction pack, just waiting for them to respond. They did say they had unusual customer traffic at the minute. Can't wait to try it out, looks great and hopefully gets my fat arse doing some exercise 🙂

[@williamyates5410]

Hi guys im a 55year old just got back on a bike after a couple of year 30 at least should i get a ebike or go for the switch conversion i only do 5 mile to work each way hilly on way home and yes im unfit great chanel bythe way cheers lads

[@visualpun650]

for what you want to do you could go either way if your hills are under 8 degrees. almost any e-bike should flatten short hills...you still need to use some muscles but it shouldn't wind you. If you don't have a bike yet, i recommend an Aventon Solterra. It has more power than the Swytch kit, weighs less than 40 lbs and is only $1299 USD. And has an UL listed battery. A Swytch will send you over $1000 once you start adding in the accessories. (I spent more) I only got a Swytch b/c i already has a nice bike I could upgrade.

[@JohnnyBoy-wx9kw]

how much do those kits cost?

[@HasanIbrahim147]

When are you going on your next bike packing adventure? Getting a bit bored of binging the 2 bikes 1 wheelchair series for the 20th time...

[@kylecouture1917]

I would get one of these for my wife's bike if the kit itself wasnt the price of an entire entry level e-bike. And 15km range is CRAP, especially when you are a lighter rider on super lightweight bike. I can only imagine this on a heavy bike with a 250 pound rider. Entry level e-bikes get more than that for the same price.

[@JibbaJabber]

11:40 Welcome to the North😉

[@charnestours1948]

"Dogland"! I miss Justin from the US series.

[@richardcarr6493]

l love the simple concept of it BUT HOW MUCH IS IT ?? NOT EVEN THE WEBSIITE SAYS SO ??

[@khangngo5684]

hello, great video, but i have a question. I’m wondering if this will work on a fixed gear bike??

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

It's a front hub motor wheel so yes.

[@zigzag8111]

Can you review a la vita boost bike kit please it's a UK company

[@lizziecade1902]

❤

[@alexmikeyshinee1085]

how much is this kit

[@wildsurfer12]

Ironically Swych didn’t advertise before this video.

[@MrSmith-rk4jq]

15km range? that's impressively small

[@muzzykolip]

Yes but how much did that Swytch kit cost you guys ?

[@cmdrx5099]

Make it cheaper & people would buy it, especially the old aluminum road bikes that some people that have disabilities make biking with road bikes enjoyable.

[@zedddddful]

Just over 6 miles it lasted who is this for exactly 🤔

[@kieronharvey]

Wtf youtube, I'm subscribed to this channel and no video has shown up in my feed for over a month.

[@evilseductions]

So in theory you could just buy a cheap mountain bike and one of these kits?

[@thamil1365]

Since you've been sent the kit, does Swytch want it back or do you get to keep it considering it's all cut up and mangled 😂🤣

[@skankinmike]

Wind absolutely spanks an ebike battery!

[@nicolewilson3886]

It looks cool but the install looks a bit complicated for an average person. I had hoped it would have been a little simpler. Also the look of a bunch of zip ties on a bicycle (Especially a nice one) isn't the best look.

[@kennuff2]

Good idea bit the range is pitiful and next to useless.

[@richienolan660]

How did you get this kit? They are telling people they are not ready yet, I've waited 10 months but they are handing them out for free to keep the marketing going. Meanwhile having no customer service!! If you are can on behalf the cyclists without your channel power lads can you ask Swytch some hard questions on delivery for the rest of us it would be much appreciated.

[@alifecycles]

Also, guys get a vise!

[@ivandjordevic696]

5k ($6k) for a bike with a bunch of aluminum parts (handlebar, stem...) and Sram force rim brake. I was expecting in that price range sram red or dura ace... 🤔

[@StayZero556]

I wouldn’t mind having this just for a little help getting my big ass up hills.

[@croccofanto]

for a brand name that is WILD, it rely has a tame font ; p

[@phililpb]

it lasts two thirds of expected range "thats not far off". got to love paid reviews

[@tommcguire5525]

Just don't do it. I was let down by these Swytch Cowboys. Just look at what you can get ready - made. I bought a 500 E. Amazing : full guarantee, local Decathlon workshop, and I have kept my trusty old Saracen for later conversion when Swytch go bust .

[@quittrn]

Mention price ...

[@johnnunn8688]

I’m at 1:23, please tell me you are going to lace the Swytch motor into the Scott wheel?!

[@kaduceusz]

How much does their front wheel weight? Is it noticeable in the handling? How long does it take to charge the 15km and 30km batteries? This technology seems to have a future, but the ranges seem very low at the moment. Especially if they advertise for 15/30 and are able to deliver 66% of that, which I thought was really poor. I know - bad conditions, etc., but still. If you advertise 15/30 you sold be able to reach this without excuses.

[@rickh4865]

I have a Brompton that I installed a Switch Kit on. I wouldn’t do it again! Way over priced, terrible customer support. Once you get the wheel you still have to get it trued $$. Poor quality!!!

[@alifecycles]

Great positioning of wild boys. #genius.

[@Crashawsome]

10.9km was not a good distance. Shame you couldn't me more honest