Putting Snow Trackers on the Ski-Doo Mach Z | Super Light Steering Effort | ABSOLUTE GAME CHANGER!

[@lisamitchell7933]

Put them on my 18 ZR8000 ,absolutely a game changer, light steering and consistency in all conditions, love them

[@sledaddicz]

Yup! They certainly work as advertised! Mike

[@quincee3376]

Cool. Thx.

[@sledaddicz]

Glad you liked it! Cheers, Jesse

[@daneulekowski929]

2 years and almost 3000 miles on my Snow Trackers, totally would buy them again. It adds confidence to your riding not to follow other sled groves, you can steer anywhere on the trail.

[@sledaddicz]

Yup totally agree. They work very well and are a great carbide! Mike

[@mikewilson7132]

great video iam about to put thes4e on my nytro along with barn of parts power stearing and yes he just made a kit for the ski do 2

[@sledaddicz]

Glad you liked it. That's awesome! Cheers, Jesse

[@bamcustoms7327]

Great vid guy's, looking forward to updates on the SnoTrackers

[@sledaddicz]

We have enough time on them now. Probably almost 750 kms on them now and they are awesome. Work really well on the 4 stroke. Just add them and adjust your centre shock spring with some more preload and you are good to go. Mike

[@SometimeIsNow]

Hey Boyz.. Nice ski upgrade 👍🏼 I met up with a few of my subscribers the other day and got to take the new Mach Z for a burn.. You have to admit… The sound of that 900R exhaust is awesome !! 😁 Take Care ❄️

[@sledaddicz]

thanks buddy - I agree its probably the best sounding sled I've had in a long time but nothing beats a greasy ol' triple lol ... Cheers, Mike

[@SometimeIsNow]

@@sledaddicz LOL.. I would definitely have to agree with you on the triple sounding motor.. Nothing compare to that symphony. 😉

[@Jbmanzx6]

I also have the semi-agressive on 2017 Blizzards. One is 600 2 stroke and the other 900 ACE 4 Stroke. My wife noticed right away, just amazing. Mike not sure if you did this or not, they mention on line and in the instructions, about setting ski-toe etc to be zero. So no 3/8 toe in, they want you to set this no toe in or out. I did do this but not sure exactly how critical it is to do. Just picked up after waiting, 2022 Enduro 900 Ace as well. (I need the throttle to flip forward, due to a thumb issue, game changer for me). I did find if you are really hammering things through turns, you will need to add some pressure. On the 2017 is a little tough where they springs are made to twist by hand, super tough to do when cold and by yourself. The 2022 they went back to the 5 clicks using a tool. Even with the ability to dial in the carbide by turning the adjustment on the ski, which definitely works, once you put the the Snow Tracker on - it is just way easy to turn. The best test is coming down from a lake blast and letting off the throttle, sleds will dart the most at this time, this stays true and still total ease of control. Let me know what you thinking on setting the ski distance?

[@sledaddicz]

Hey Jeff. Yes, we set the ski-toe to be zero. This is extremely important to do. We did loosen the front track spring to add a little bit of bite as you are right, sometimes they are a little too light. You are confusing two things - the 5 clicks using the tool is for the rear springs which purely control your suspension sag, they have nothing to do with ski pressure (that is all the front track shock/spring). Cheers, Mike

[@Jbmanzx6]

@@sledaddicz Hey Mike, thanks for the update here. Sorry for the confusion, actually on the 2017 Blizzards the front shocks that you adjust for ski pressure, these you adjust by hand, their is no 5 settings that you use the tool for. We didn't play with the front track spring as you did, so far the added ski pressure works awesome. Thanks again and keep up the video's - good stuff!!!

[@Goober4884]

Have used the Aggressive Snowtracker setup for the past couple years on my sled and have to say as long as you have the knowledge and ability to tune your suspension properly and also follow instructions such as the toe in being set to Zero, this set up can solve a multitude of issues with lightness, control, darting and improve overall handling immensely.. Looking to give Bergstroms a try for my teenaged daughter and son as they have become much more aggressive riders over the past couple years but I don’t believe the Trackers would be a good fit for them. One of those you either Love them or Hate them kind of thing. Plus they are already starting to get faster than me so no need to help them too much in the Twisty’s.

[@b.pur9981]

The average rider would not know how to tune the suspension properly, I believe that this is the problem with STs. And definitely don’t tell your insurance company you’re using them. Because it’s been published that more Snowtrackers are on sleds that are in accidents than any other wear bar. And this is believable because if the rear suspension and limiter strap is not adjusted properly, then they bite hard…..

[@sledaddicz]

Agreed Goober48. If you don't know definitely ask someone that does. Tinkering with handling and suspension set up without understanding what you are doing can give you more trouble than its worth! Cheers, Jesse

[@b.pur9981]

@@sledaddicz oh I couldn’t agree more

[@edge7074]

I have the same issue on my Mach Z. It is darty but the most concerning issue for me is the track spin. It is stock as the dealer setup. Is there something I can do to get a better bite on take off. The track spins to no end and much lesser sleds is walking away from me because im in one spot spinning. There are 152 1.450 woody mega bite studs down the center of the track, the track is the ice ripper. Maybe a 2 ply track for next year with 288 studs? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

[@alainbrouillette7740]

I just received my XRS Turbo with smart shox and after a first ride of 300 km , my shoulder were killing me . True that it is extremely heavy on steering , also i have a lot of darting so it is very tiring during long ride . Did you notice the darting too ?? I wonder if this could be the solution to all of this . Looking forward to hear your comment after a ride on those snow trackers !!

[@sledaddicz]

Yes! This is the solution! I was about to sell the Mach and buy another 850 but now I love it. A little more ski pressure and it will be perfect. Mike

[@SometimeIsNow]

@@sledaddicz Hey Boyz.. I just ordered a set of semi aggressive's for my 900t w/ the Pilot TS adjustable skis. They'll be here next week and I'll do a review video following the install and first ride. Cant wait to see if it takes the darting out on hard packed trails with multiple carbide tracks. Cheers !!🤙🏼

[@boylstonrider5862]

Take some compression off the center shock. This will lighten up the steering

[@SometimeIsNow]

@@boylstonrider5862 ?? Hey Brian, Did you mean to say add compression to the center shock?? Taking compression off the center shock adds weight to the skis, hence adding ski pressure, heavier steer and darting. Cheers🤙🏼

[@boylstonrider5862]

@@SometimeIsNow yes my bad. That's how I've been adjusting ski pressure with my SS xrs

[@bartunertl302]

Great video as always, guys. I was tired (literally) of the heavy steering on my 900T R (and all of the other Ski-Doo 4-strokes that l owned) and ended up switching to Polaris for '24. l wish l would've known about these a long time ago. That being said, l'm really excited to be trying a different brand after 22 years on Ski-Doo's. One ride on a Matryx and l was sold. If my experience with my Polaris is negative l'll be back on a Ski-Doo, guaranteed.

[@sledaddicz]

Awesome brother! Please let us know ur impressions of the matryx once u ride it. I think you will love it! Cheers, Jesse

[@BeaverTailToys]

Looks like a great upgrade! Would you be able to go back to a stock carbide after drilling the new holes?

[@sledaddicz]

I think so but I haven't tried it yet. The issue is that the studs are drilled out bigger so while a set of washers would hold it, I'm not sure if it's going to be tight enough fit. I'll take a closer look this week. Mike

[@georgea6403]

Probably should put bushings in to take up the space.

[@alainbrouillette7740]

Hey question , what snowtracker model # you got for your Pilot X ? I dont see the Pilot X ski listed on the snow tracker site ??

[@sledaddicz]

Just use the same ones for the pilot 5.7.

[@alainbrouillette7740]

@@sledaddicz Thanks

[@alancall5113]

I'm hearing you're supposed to have no toe in What do you recommend they want you to run straight parallel skis What did you do I set should be here any day now👍

[@sledaddicz]

I ran them no toe as per recommendations. Just measure and adjust if needed and then mount them up. Cheers Mike

[@alancall5113]

Thank✌️

[@Dooguy]

how about a video showing how u set up the 4 stroke for these? as I read below its crucial

[@sledaddicz]

That's a great idea. Snow trackers do have lots of videos on installation but we can definitely look into doing that. Cheers, Jesse

[@terrymunn1224]

WOuld you recommend the mach 1 for a trail sled and would you recommend the semi agressive st's

[@sledaddicz]

Hey Terry. The mach 1 is a great sled but we don't spend much time trail riding vintage sleds so we couldn't comment on what carbide set up would be best. Cheers, Jesse

[@mikeguliz]

Hey Mike I also have a 900 turbo was looking for a solution for that looking forward to more feed back

[@sledaddicz]

Hey Mike! The proof is right in the video. Get yourself a set of snowtrackers and be ready to have your mind blown! We sure did. Cheers, Mike

[@walterroosa7999]

I have a set of these for my 23 900r enduro. other than installing them what other changes do I need to make to the sled before I ride?? HELP!!

[@barbier.family]

I had trackers on my old sled - im debating if I want to install them again, my only gripe is they seems to really eat up any kind of glides in your trailer. ANyone else?

[@sledaddicz]

I never really noticed them being any worse than other carbides in the trailer. I don't have glides all the way throughout- just on the ramps. They work well that's for sure. Cheers, Mike

[@Candubrain]

Do you find the sled is under steering or pushing in the corners with the SnowTrackers? Or grab suddenly while turning? Especially at higher speeds. Thanks Brian

[@sledaddicz]

It's dependant on conditions. In most conditions you will get just a bit of push which I'm OK with. I do not find it does any kind of sudden grab. In fresh hard pack it's sticky but obviously heavier on the arms compared to looser snow. Overall, happy with them. Mike

[@Candubrain]

@@sledaddicz thanks for the reply. Got the TS skis on a 900ACE Enduro. Tossing the idea of the Snowtrackers v/s Mechanical Power Steering from BOP around....thanks

[@davidmccomb7120]

I thought the same thing, I thought it would make the steering feel heavier, I may give them a try on my wife's 600 renegade if that is the case.

[@sledaddicz]

Hey David! Definitely do. They are an absolute game changer. Honestly I was shocked at the difference they made. Cheers, Jesse

[@brucefredrickson9677]

Where can I get these in the USA?

[@sledaddicz]

I would go to the snowtracker website and see if they have a dealer locator. Cheers, Jesse

[@rayland8553]

Get the AC Thunder Cat with power steering 😀

[@sledaddicz]

Yes! I'm excited to try one as our buddy Rich has one coming soon. Hopefully lol. Mike

[@bennyjeffords3065]

What would you recommend for 850 renegade Gen 5 steering?

[@sledaddicz]

Hey Benny. Here is what we recommend: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4KYY4d6mst9n9k Still applies for our Gen 5. Cheers, Jesse

[@raggdoll1977]

Any links on where to buy?

[@sledaddicz]

Hey sorry for the late response! If you are in Ontario you can get them at royal distributing. Also any kimpex dealer. Cheers, Jesse

[@denisdeegan845]

Could you share the part number for the pilot X ski I thought the identical way about my Mach I’m running Woody navigators with 8 inch ace bar and the 4 inch stock on the outside the steering is a bear I found a set for 5.7 ski they should fit (cheap)

[@sledaddicz]

It's the same part number for the 5.7 ... they fit the pilot x as well. I will try to find it later and post again here. Mike

[@denisdeegan845]

@@sledaddicz Did you also adjust your center shock spring and the springs on the front Ski shocks

[@sledaddicz]

@@denisdeegan845 Just need to adjust your front track shock spring - thats all I've done.

[@alainbrouillette7740]

@@sledaddicz Have you tighten it or loosen it ??

[@brentfreeman1605]

@@alainbrouillette7740 Following this, I would also like to know the adjustment made to front track shock?

[@shanereilly9309]

Heavy steering is just part of riding a Mach Z. I rode old Mach Z’s and really old Mach 1’s. Fast but riding a tank once you left the lake. Good videos guys.

[@sledaddicz]

Thanks Shane! I agree but there is no reason why it can't be lighter up front. They are advertising it as a lake racer AND a trail shredder - so it shouldn't be a bear to steer.. Cheers, Jesse

[@darrrenbetker4266]

if your $25,000 sled is darting id take it back and demand that they fix it. No reason at all for darting to still after all these decades to still be an issue. Screw that shit!!!!!

[@sledaddicz]

Hi Darren, thanks for watching, however I wasn't talking about darting in this video. The sled doesn't dart at all - in fact none of my Gen4s have ever darted. The problem I was talking about was heavy steering and this cures it. Thanks, Mike

[@b.pur9981]

I find Snowtrackers to be way too finicky. They get stones in them and really can cause a lot of accidents when installed by people who don’t know how to tune suspensions. Deuce Bars are a much better option, perhaps even Slim Jims would be a better use of Motovvans help. At the end of the day, to each their own. I was not impressed with how quick these Snowtrackers broke down on me. They only did one thing right unfortunately and ended up leaving more holes in my skis than were needed. They’re also honkin expensive, although Deuce Bars are also expensive.

[@bamcustoms7327]

Just to be clear, your suggesting duece bars or have you installed them and prefer them? Do the duece's a;so lessen steering input required?

[@sledaddicz]

Hey Brad. To each their own brother. We love the berg triples on our 850s, but the snowtrackers seem to be working great on the mach. As things change we will definitely keep everyone updated. Cheers, Jesse

[@sledaddicz]

Hey Bam Customs. For a 900 turboR skidoo I would definitely suggest the snowtrackers over the deuce bars. Cheers, Jesse

[@b.pur9981]

@@bamcustoms7327 so you understand, Sledaddics replied to me saying “to each their own” and I agree with that. But then they tell you that Snowtrackers are the better choice. So full disclosure here. I was in a near fetal snowmobile accident 2 years ago, where I separated my shoulder and due to Covid never really rehabed properly. Since this accident, 2 sleds, 2 seasons ago, I have done extensive testing, multiple sets of skis, and on a 2 stroke I have come up with the best set up for the lightest steering. I have had the aid of working with Accelerated Technologies, who have more experience than many riders combined as well as my best friend who is a licensed BRP mechanic now on his 32nd new sled in a row. He owns a 2022 Mach and he also uses Deuce Bars in favour of Snow Trackers, and he has tested more skis and runner combos than I have. As mentioned, STs definitely do work well on a sled that has been properly set up for them and on groomed trails where there’s plenty of snow, this sweet spot is far too narrow for me to put that kind of resources into. Like I said, I did back to back testing with 5 sets of skis and many different wear bars. Until I see that data elsewhere, I will continue to use what I use only because it works best for me. Not for any other rider simply because they don’t ride my sled. So to answer you, I’m suggesting you try them, to my knowledge there are 3 sizes, and also I do have them installed and they work really well. Not flawless because nothing is. But with my bad shoulder, I’m not putting anything else on.

[@georgea6403]

@@b.pur9981 if you’re the expert you’re saying you are. Why are you even listening to anybody else comment?

[@bamcustoms7327]

Seeing a lot of comments on the 900R being heavy on the front end. I'm really curious if people have made any changes the setup to suit their riding style or are they just riding it as delivered? I have my 900R setup to be light on the front end, I find it takes some effort on initial turn in but then it carves hard with no inside ski lift, even on the stock ski runners. My shoulders are sore, but thats from the 900R pulling like a Mother Trucker, hell I got blisters from hanging on! Curious???? If you have made changes to your suspension and still find the 900's to handle well, like my comment If you are riding as delivered, than yes it's heavy on the ski's, and please dislike my comment. You won't hurt my feelings, Everybody gets a trophy!

[@sledaddicz]

Hi there. I made a ton of adjustments to the suspension - especially the front track shock and nothing made it feel any lighter. Sure it carved but riding it 300 kms in a day and you were absolutely beat. Not what I was looking for. It's supposed to be a big miler and you need it to be super comfortable all day out there. The snowtrackers cured it and made it awesome that even my wife who has no experience snowmobiling can ride it. It's like power steering. Cheers, Mike

[@bamcustoms7327]

@@sledaddicz thanks so much, I just did 250 miles(southern ontario miles!) yesterday and I now know exactly what you mean. Again, THANKS

[@joshpitts7256]

20 some grand on a Sled and have to change the Ski's to get the Pile to Steer...Wow...🤦‍♂️

[@sledaddicz]

No not the skis - just the carbides.