PvZ Heroes Tier List 2023: Sneaky Class

Yes, I know It's 2024. Sue me.
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[@therealmorganofficial]

Thank you for keeping this game ALIVE!

[@darkcat6530]

It's him

[@Trailtrooper75]

Fr

[@ensaladadepina72]

We can say the same about you. Thank you for your KR content :)

[@rudmillahnowrin9151]

Fr

[@SuushsJshsjsj]

Didn't know you watched pvz heros

[@TwilightChomperEnthusiast]

Can’t wait for Fry’s 18-hour discussion about why Pogo-Yeti-MUG is the best combo in the game! (Blockbuster says hello)

[@HoverMelon2000]

Would blockbuster be less horrible to play against if it was 5 or 6 cost or would that be just a slight nerf?

[@manologamerss5801]

​@@HoverMelon2000 It's not that horrible to play against, even running Warlord Mug decks it still isn't a big issue. And being higher cost would make it very hard to use, it already requires specific grave positioning from the opponent in order to be able to evolve it from an existing plant. And not being able to do so effectively increases it's cost.

[@navyblues1969]

@@HoverMelon2000 that would make blockbuster sort of unplayable because now you have to have a body plus the blockbuster.

[@FryEmUpGaming]

"The Blockbusters send their regards"

[@jakepeng9962]

@@HoverMelon2000 Unusable.

[@ihaveaface_]

The comments section basically: 5% of the comments - *Thanking Fry & tell him they love his content* 10% - *Other Jokes* 25% - "but Fry, Swabbie S Tier" 60% - "fRy, yOu ShOuLd PlAy ThiS dEcK tHaT i MaDe"

[@donanilao7724]

0.1% - Actual funny, original comments

[@BlackWhiteAndGoldEagle]

​@@donanilao7724 Its lower

[@scudjoples]

1% instead

[@frogger3-qm6sw]

But swabbie is s tier

[@SleepyNinja27]

It was an honour to watch the stream live! Thank you for keeping Pvz Heroes alive Fry(also when are you making a walrus deck just asking-)

[@colbyjackc]

Really excited for the updated hero tierlist! Gonna watch the old one in preparation just to see how much it's changed, because the class and hero meta seems to have changed the most in these past few years.

[@ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy]

I love that he keeps the Blowgun Cammoflage joke

[@Leothecat2way]

Can anyone explain to me why Blowgun Imp in F-Tier?

[@Corn-Flakes1000]

@@Leothecat2way 5-cost 3 attack 3 health

[@Leothecat2way]

@@Corn-Flakes1000 Yeah, but it still has Deadly and can bounce a Plant with Evolution. That's enough to put it in D-Tier, right?

[@ihaveaface_]

@@Leothecat2way again, its a 5-cost with 3/3 literally a higher stat than monkey barrel which cost2 or any card in the game. its low stats is easily countered by a simple berry blast. The Strikethrough doesn't well-synergies, hitting your opponent with 3 atk which feels like a block meter charger at that rate. Then there its deadly ability which is supposedly helps of its weak stats, tbh most 5-cost could kill anything of their natural high 5/5 stats or more, just run the low cost deadlies like toxic waste and barrels. About its evolution ability, you need a zombie, and then destroy your own zombies in order to temporarily remove a plant which the plant can respond easily afterwards. Anyways if you wanted to put Blowgun Imp D-Tier or even higher thats fine. It would be impressive if someone make a viable deck with blowgun, somehow.

[@ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy]

@@ihaveaface_ Its only funny when HE does it

[@pandabs6845]

Swabbie and firefighter s tier

[@ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy]

How original

[@pandabs6845]

@@ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy thx

[@frogger3-qm6sw]

Rescue Radish + Lil Buddy < Firefighter + Swabbie

[@Yrewir]

35:54 Fry's underrated running joke

[@CinnaGrim01]

All in with the moving with Neptuna would be great for smelly. -3 Black Holes -4 Sumo -3 Smoke Bombs Then add pirates, tomb raiser, or another face hitting card to greatly complement the smelly + moving. It'd be a great deck for maintaining your control on the field while setting up your strong tempo plays.

[@los-lobos]

Raptor Spacetime Tombraiser and Cowboy are the good face hitters

[@CinnaGrim01]

Boom. The competitive spacetime raptor smelly deck for fry to try.

[@matthewbauerle7153]

Needs terrify.

[@los-lobos]

@@CinnaGrim01 😂

[@captainwhiplash9084]

Terrify

[@eggsandbacon1573]

I've had lots of success with your Neptuna Gargolith deck. (The one with rodeo and surprise garg). It DOMINATES non-guardian heros. It has it's niche

[@hgalactic5185]

I'm fascinated by how the tier list is still changing despite no new cards added

[@oldpernilong0]

Counterpoint: Swabbie is OP because 0 tends to infinity. So his overstats of "+1/+1" make him have INFINITE VALUE. Meaning he is the most OP pvz card in history. Even if he was a 1 cost 99/99 with frenzy he would not have infinite value and it would be a nerf of his current state.

[@funguy398]

But you waste card playing swabbie

[@citratune7830]

@@funguy398you draw one of those every turn...

[@sselinkaymak5721]

​@@citratune7830 But what are you going to do after turn 40?!? Thats why conjure is the best strategy and card draw sucks.

[@jakepeng9962]

9:20 Fire rooster is an aggro card. It's main usage is not pinging plants. Fishy imp is useful for aggro too since it is another card with an easier time to hit face.

[@nounname140]

Also FMN tech 😊

[@goddamn2312]

Hey fry that damage fire rooster does at the start is just a bonus its main use is aggroing the opponent stopping them from playing low health minions and absorbing tricks. imp trowing imps main field is it is a reactive card ofc fire rooster does worse than him in that category.

[@mangostestes9371]

Also good answer to forget-me-nuts

[@minorfrac2886]

Monkey smuggler isn’t necessarily an S tier card, but I just love its design. Stealing block meter is exceptionally useful, as you basically always take 1-2 less hits before blocking, giving you superpower tempo. It’s also solid enough stats where it can be used for mind games like in that one highlight comp where fry blooming hearts into dry monkey and dies upon the reveal.

[@TheGreenDigi]

If this game was still being developed, seeing so many amphibious zombies in mid/low tier, it would've been interesting if we had a zombie or something that made it so any amphibious zombies played in the water lane were put into gravestones. I feel that could've opened a lot of potential for fun half amphibious decks with the sneaky tribe. Would be really fun with zombies like unthawed viking, gondala and shark.

[@HoverMelon2000]

I can't wait for all the rest of the tierlist redos! Especially the Waifu tier list! :)

[@crinknor6083]

Very well explained and greatly made tierlist!

[@brunodopradorosa4843]

Raiding raptor make me win so many games, is extremely good with hugegig. Because of ice moon, u can easily 2 turn kill from full health. My favorites cards of my life in order r: 1-dr. Space time 2-rading raptor 3- lazer base Those 3 cards carry me from so many games, just use then and enjoy some sick games, incredibles comebacks Note: toxic imp r usable in this deck, not great, but it really buy u some time and get u some card advantage. Conjure u can play in so many ways, depending on draw and conjure. U can just stomp, control til your oponent have no card left, u can mega combo draw with raptor and just win a losing game (bonus attack is huge here)

[@victordu8094]

Last Tier list Zombies Class is here 😎

[@Kapech_the_first]

I've been waiting for this one. Love your tier-lists since the existence of the old ones

[@TsubasaVotora]

No lie. This afternoon, i played pogo on heights to clear the lane and throw the +3 attack power on him. The following 2 turns, i played pogos. Kept bouncing anything that tried fronting this 5/2 boy. He carried the entire game. Pogo is INSANE in every matchup but the guardian ones. I think he’s the reason Guardian is the most used plant class on ladder.

[@BorisGamingChannel]

Yeah, guardian is so good because it counters pogo yeti mug, which would probably be the best strat in the game if not for block buster

[@AlanNoNamePlayer]

Heal is probably better, unless you count HG getting his legendary superpower.

[@rusteth_art]

Not to make a “well this one time” argument, but zombie stomp has saved me numerous times in losing games. Especially against stalling heroes like wall knight (which you’ve experienced yourself) and even decks that put killers on the board like solar flare. It at least works well for me with neptuna, who is also a hero I believe you’ve been sleeping on. Really interested in your tier lists though, and excited for future ones.

[@Egghead-il5gi]

My thing with cosmic imp is that he only has 1 attack and can’t even damage an armored, which I personally find underwhelming for a 3 cost.

[@yes3410]

Most of the times you see cosmic imp it was leaped and it's really annoying.

[@TheMistermastermario]

There actually are competitive decks using Impfinity that have Dr. Spacetime. There's Conjurates by RCCH and Spacestars by Snorting Salt: Conjurates runs 3x Bungee, 4x Grave Robber, 3x Graveyard, 4x Conman, 2x Smoke Bomb, 4x Barrel of Deadbeards, 3x Spacetime, 4x Fruitcake, 2x Final Mission, 3x Sugary Treat, 4x Flameface, and 4x Cowboy Spacestars is similar: 4x Bungee, 3x Graveyard, 3x Conman, 2x Smoke Bomb, 4x Barrel of Deadbeards, 4x Spacetime, 4x Fruitcake, 3x Final Mission, 2x Quazard, 4x Raptor, 4x Coyboy, 3x Binary Stars Spacetime does some really good work here because sticking him in a graveyard or buffing him makes him win trades with like everything early on, making him a decent threat.

[@SuperScraper123]

Glad to see this in the comments. Hopefully Fry sees this

[@bojo1942]

Swabbie not in s tier = bullish Edit: I hate autocorrect

[@ihaveaface_]

*S tier Edit: sorry

[@livictor1260]

Ducky -> 1/2 Imp -> 2/3 Zombie Chicken -> 2/3 Zombie high diver -> 3/3 Blowgun -> 4 cost Walrus -> 4 cost Swabbie -> 1/2 Frosty mustache -> the frozen plant also gets -1 hotdog imp -> 1 cost 2/1 Barrel roller -> (swabbies are better), 4/3 firefighter -> the rescued zombie gets +2/+2 Gondola -> 5/7 Zombot stomp -> 6 cost Space pirate -> 2/3, anti hero 3 Stealthy imp -> 2/3 Tomb raiser -> 3/5 Trapper -> 4/3 Instead -> evolution gives this an additional +1/+1 Surprise garg -> 6/5 Shark -> 5/6 Mini ninja -> 1/2 Fishi imp -> 3/2 Cosmic imp -> 2/1 Smelly zombie -> 2/5 Flameface -> no longer a gravestone pogo -> 2/1 mug -> 4/5 Cowboy _> 3/4 Spacetime -> 1/4

[@Mr_bean_is_santa_claus]

You,re listening to "the return of the sneaky class tierlist" Now playing "space comboy" 😎😎😎

[@los-lobos]

I wonder where he’s going to put Tombraiser Zombie, it can get a lot of value especially with Laser Base Alpha.

[@Tangiiness]

fry!! if you’re looking for a good spacetime deck, i do have an idea ive had success with. black hole + spacetime + raptor + stompadon with neptuna puts immense pressure on the opponent, cowboy + going viral for finisher. baits out all their answers for stompadon to go crazy, and conjures aren’t really needed at all to win. super fun and strong deck

[@huhbooh]

I could be wrong but I think he's done something similar

[@mrfrog0913]

Fry could you make a budget tier list, a tier list with no legenderys and rank the cards based on budget. Super rare cards would natually be 1 tier lower because their difficulty to craft.

[@SandwichBoiYT]

from experience, raptor is a C. sure, it CAN grow big, but it usually just dies due to its low health.

[@badorni69]

yet its still better than half the cards he put in s lol

[@not_a_shroom7190]

three cost 4 health is better than average lmao

[@SandwichBoiYT]

@@not_a_shroom7190 stats aren't everything

[@badorni69]

@@SandwichBoiYT yes, but the rest of the card is obvious upsides without drawback, so stats being good literally makes the card good at worst?

[@SandwichBoiYT]

@@badorni69 the dino roar is decent at best. the buff to health is what keeps the dino alive, but raptor doesn't have that. as for the card draw, you have to either build the deck around finding ways to make raptor hit face, or hope your opponent has no removal. The cards it conjured usually suck too

[@chrisbraysstormlogs]

Ducky should be D/C just for brain freeze pets. Works great with monkey smuggler turn 2 and is a nice cheap amphibious activator for cat lady and zookeeper

[@yes3410]

Swash should be in the same tier as toxic waste imp as it's basically the engine for pirate decks and you don't run it in any other deck and some pirate decks don't run it like barrel pirates Edit: it could even be c cause you don't really need it in pirate as it's a win more card and if you already have a lot of pirates with flameface your probably going to win anyway not only that but it gets free traded by roto shroom for two juggernaut and black eye pea and it has to buff atleast two pirates to even get value.

[@not_a_shroom7190]

I have an interesting idea, how about you run plank-walker in mid-tuna as a backup incase you face blockbusters.

[@МаксимВарзарь-щ7п]

Why swash buckler is in s tier if fry said that cards will pe placed higher if they can be used in different decks. But where will you play swash buckler besides pirate decks ? It should be same with the toxic waste imp because they are basically engines of their decks but only in them.

[@bruh985yearsago5]

Swash should be in d or F because of its stats making it get free traded by juggernut and bep which are really popular cards and even if it hits face it’s only a 3/3 on turn 3 which is average and it with conman is not good as they can stick a 2/2 in front of the conman and if you use carver swash it still has the same problem they can still just front the swash with a 3/2 and get an equal trade and forgot to mention ice pirate and monkey are better as they equal trade with most stuff on turn 2 and they have atleast some use in late game where as with swash if you draw it in late game it’s garbage

[@bandito7198]

fry can we get an all legendary cards tier list

[@BaconNoobGaming]

"yes, I know it's 2024. Sue me."(fry em up gaming) 💀

[@buffete3753]

2023 ? Yeah sure Fry, dont worry , the retirement hotel is not far x).

[@jakepeng9962]

Love you Fry. Do a conjure teir list.

[@starstriker4960]

So I was messing with some of the worse cards in your various tier lists, and a surprising success is hotdog imp. A 2/2 strike through is perfect for an aggro deck, the strikethrough deals garunteed damage. Is it the best card in the deck? No but it was very helpful and was much better then what I considered in its place, sugary treat

[@Needable.]

Your new beard is so cool man! (Sorry if i didnt keep up and its not new, just wanted to say it fits you)

[@jaskuchoni2577]

Two deck ideas: Neutron Mime, and Vimpire Abracadaver

[@bextomoose]

If this is based on how often you run it in decks, why are the pirates in S? They're really really good and necessary in pirate decks, yeah, but that's really their only use

[@yes3410]

Flameface is also good in other deck then just pirate decks but swashbackler should be in c

[@starstriker4960]

Maybe a spacetime infinity deck with unexpected gifts since most zombie event cards can be good especially at -1 cost

[@iAnonymous877]

Conjure mill with pogo mug?

[@mangostestes9371]

24:13 meanwhile most people in fandom saying that this "needs a buff" or is "trash for a super-rare", they had me dying bro😂

[@FudgewastakenReal]

Thanks! Was watching on twitch but never finished it 😂

[@lab6717]

plankwalker is a science card, has fry ever made a gadget plankwalker deck? Love the content as always, awesome to see this game still going strong!

[@Sunflower-vq4sw]

It's a pretty bad combo. You could do that same effect with trickster + mustache monument but (mostly) cheaper effect in is instant 12 damage (mostly). Playing a 8 cost card then hoping your opponent doesn't have removal with the abundance of removal with the solar class and sham rocket then gadget science is very unreliable. Yea you can teleport plankwalker then turn 10 you play gadget but you could ALSO do it with trickster + mustache monument for cheaper and earlier mostly but the idea seems fun with HG

[@lab6717]

@@Sunflower-vq4sw good point, I’d be interested to see the fun value though. On that same note, shark is a science card too, maybe there’s more synergy there?

[@board-qu9iu]

@@Sunflower-vq4swyeah also Hail a copter + Gadget is also a thing which is just as a good

[@hackzicuackzicu1421]

26:49 fry robot 🤖

[@thelichking5436]

Raiding raptor not being in S is wild 💀

[@ShadxwKing1776]

Fry… youre really sleeping on tomb raiser

[@Jadelisha]

Now we need the hero’s tier list

[@ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy]

Read the description

[@imshutdownforever]

rose's tier is gonna skyrocket from last time lmao

[@Mr.IceMonke]

I love your content it’s been a journey love you all❤

[@gameygames135]

Space Cowboy has pet synergy Use it with Zoo Keeper IMMEDIATELY! Or Hot Dog with Area 22. The only way i was able to win with Brain Freeze

[@bananyawn]

Thing is no one fronts smelly thinking it’s a smelly and wins most trades with 4 hp

[@pvzhstreamerbattles]

tl;dr 19:41 exca ,, my beloved

[@Hausbau.]

Fry do you think that pogo wouldn’t be that good if mug wouldn’t exist

[@yes3410]

It would still be good just less powerful

[@iAnonymous877]

Good but outclassed by backyard bounce

[@DUXAbrawl]

You should do the meme tier list

[@scoobydoobydoo7401]

I really hope fry makes a mini ninja and smoke bomb meme deck

[@apichi8885]

The tier list all real fry em up fans were waiting for >:)

[@s.o.k.1393]

Spacetime in a competitive deck could be impfinity conjurates?

[@nounname140]

How to make the whole Discord community mad in 49:54 minutes guide:

[@samuellsaliba]

Hey, quick question. Do plants vs zombies heroes sometimes don't even load for you? If you have a solution please tell me, thanks!

[@Rippi__]

Before watching: if Buried treasure and space pirate aren't A+ tier, I'll mald

[@justpvz2978]

Wow this stream took long to be released on KZbin. But anyway back to my streak. Day 12 of asking for Fry to make a nurse leap deck

[@justpvz2978]

Yay fry gave my comment a heart so he's probably going to do my idea. 😎😁

[@sodaboy2414]

@@justpvz2978Yea

[@Arbie117]

Thank you fry for making great content

[@gdmrhotshot3731]

Oh I just realized he uploaded this today

[@ShadxwKing1776]

I saw the thumbnail and was like “ummmm no but maybe?”

[@undefind3426]

Remember when Spacetime was regarded as a bad card

[@PedroHernandez-oq1dz]

Make a deck around blob volution on swabie in the water lane

[@Frank-ix7jw]

Some versions of teleimps do thT

[@weakspaget621]

Did blud reuplode the last sneaky tierlist

[@RandyInCandidCamera]

I hard disagree on headstone, he is so useless after early rounds and it hurts to draw him

[@Kris_with_Banana]

This class is 1/3 the reason why huge-gigantacus is so good

[@penguined_9393]

Leaving after 6 years of watching content because you put swabbie in D

[@thecyberdragon64]

IT CAME OUT!!!

[@tpssc3]

Ducky tube party pet deck when? Disconaut with ducky tube can be decent.

[@DrBepis-jo7qt]

INSTEAD IN S TIER. I mean come on, you can literally blue balls your opponent😊

[@chainedgh0st974]

Imp throwing imp should be s tier

[@Shrin33]

Nah, but imp mirror does not deserve f tier

[@s.o.k.1393]

Ducky tube is definitely better than F tier. For a 1 cost it's steamrolled you in games a disproportionate amount

[@mangostestes9371]

Pray that the opponents don't run any amphibious plant, berry blast, or banana bomb which costs 1 and can answer it on turn 2 after it pings plant hero's block meter

[@s.o.k.1393]

@@mangostestes9371 In a swarm deck ducky would be the least of their worries to deal with, also those are high value removal cards in general, they can answer teacher too

[@supernova3241]

@@s.o.k.1393teacher actually has a good ability though

[@s.o.k.1393]

let me guess, pogo yeti mug in s tier

[@sodaboy2414]

Alright new video

[@maxdoerr4755]

Even after all the graveyard decks he put it c😢

[@ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy]

C is fine wdym

[@theamazingtommo]

know how else buried treasure is a great card? It also has the same control use as cheese cutter: when u play buried treasure, ur opponent has to answer it or u gain a legendary card with gives u a card advantage

[@tobiasgund8048]

Well, but you do have to cover it with something, so it costs a card too, no?

[@user-vb8zo6kh4j]

It does not give you card advantage

[@theamazingtommo]

yes but u get a card back from it, so u don't lose card advantage when u cover it

[@theamazingtommo]

and again, it has the same control use as cheese cutter, cuz when u play it, the opponent must remove it

[@theamazingtommo]

and u do lose slight tempo when u cover it, but it's just a 2/2 for 1 brain, so that won't rly hurt ur tempo too much

[@jonasnitschke1347]

? Ich weiß tatsächlich nicht was du meinst.👀

[@s2nw-30zhengtianxinglarry4]

finally the last one!!

[@MaddieMewMew]

why is there an ai image at the start

[@kevinanders5570]

2 deck ideas(3rd) Super brains-"deadeye"(make bullseye cards deadly) Impfinity- "deadly eye" (make deadly cards bullseye) Impfinity:"death snipe"(make zombies deadly that can spread damage) "dead eye" Goal: using higher health zombies to win trades through high hp+ deadly, then bullseye the hero, and gain resource advantage. You can choose what to add or not, but here is list of some stuff: Cosmic scientist, teleportation zombie, wormhole gate keeper, kitchen sink zombie. Barrel of barrels, lazerbase alpha, toxic waste imp, cosmic imp. Next is "deadly eye" Goal: to make deadly cards bulls eye, use deadly cards to kill strong plants and bulleye to face Things like: Disconaut, grave robber, con man. Toxic waste imp, cosmic imp, smelly zombie, barrel of barrels. "Death snipe" Goal: snipe plants with zombies' abilities after making them deadly. Examples: Barrel of deadbeards, conga zombie, space ninja, abracadaver, fireworks zombie, gizzard lizard, stupid cupid, tankylosaurus, gas giant. Firerooster Barrel of barrels, toxic waste imp, laser base alpha.

[@josemedina1805]

Is nothing imp really just a completely trash card with no potential, though? It just really seems like there has to be a way to get board value from playing it.

[@MarleyPok]

So the majority of the cards are MID

[@NoahCommenter]

Day 85 of asking for firefighter kangaroo hybrid at 69420 subs.

[@Totovski]

Hey fry, please do a heroes and a superpowers tier list

[@NoUserU]

Yeah Idk I think he forgor

[@femurbreaker0]

fr

[@user-vd6oe6jo1v]

Swabbing is S tear

[@ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy]

tear

[@brownie73537]

2:02 Fry you gotta do ducky tube bonus attacks I’m sure it’s the best combo in the game

[@theamazinggeek210]

smelly zombie + hunt?

[@not_a_shroom7190]

LETS GO

[@Ninjapigman-s2n]

Bro tier list 2024 not 2023

[@Marcelfunnyay]

I literally got into the video in less than a minute.

[@PeppertoCB]

what if instead it was the ohio class

[@thegamingguy8933]

Anyone know how he plays on pc?

[@doorpig7405]

bluestacks

[@thegamingguy8933]

@@doorpig7405 is it safe?

[@IceyShard]

​@thegamingguy8933 ik this is an answer to a 1 month comment but yes it's safe

[@PokeNerdNoah]

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