How NOT to Build a Tunnel to France (Or a Bridge!)

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Paul Whitewick

Paul Whitewick

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@joelthomastr
@joelthomastr 2 жыл бұрын
0:21 "One thing that struck me as odd was why it took until as recently as 1994 to cross the body of water between England and France." Hmm I can think of two reasons: 1. England 2. France
@natesturm448
@natesturm448 3 жыл бұрын
A floating railway has to be the *most* steampunk thing I've ever seen.
@goober239
@goober239 2 жыл бұрын
And the most Victorian British thing ever.
@KX36
@KX36 2 жыл бұрын
and the most Studio Ghibli thing ever
@schnaps1790
@schnaps1790 2 жыл бұрын
@@KX36 more like Production I.G, One Piece has floating trains called Sea Trains
@McGuyveracity
@McGuyveracity 2 жыл бұрын
It's not something you've ever seen. It wasn't built.
@natesturm448
@natesturm448 2 жыл бұрын
@@McGuyveracity Yeah, that drawing/painting/art of a floating railway by hot air balloons is something I, and everyone else who watched the video, 100% seen. Kinda how drawings/doodles/art works. Brings unruly unrealistic things to life. *duh*
@pvuccino
@pvuccino 3 жыл бұрын
I still remember the "Asterix" comic, where Asterix and Obelix sail through the English Channel from Roman Gaul to Roman Britannia, but they end up in a thunderstorm. An annoyed Obelix remarks that they should build a tunnel underneath to avoid all of this, and Asterix responds with "Yes, I've heard they already started digging! But I guess it's going to take a while..." lol
@garethjebb8835
@garethjebb8835 3 жыл бұрын
I remember this too
@haweater1555
@haweater1555 3 жыл бұрын
And if you dug underneath the Sphinx you will find the nose that Obelix buried after he broke it off.
@comethiburs2326
@comethiburs2326 3 жыл бұрын
asterix in britain was written in 1966, and the project was being worked on since 1957. makes sense lmao, sadly Goscinny never got to see it built.
@tsvandyke
@tsvandyke 3 жыл бұрын
IF you look - Asterix & Obleix is a ... re-print from a french author from the 1860's .. so the " JOKE " Asterix is referring to - is MORE than 150 years old .
@vincent_hall
@vincent_hall 2 жыл бұрын
Digging with spades!? That Would take a while, yes. 🤣
@TheVocalMale
@TheVocalMale 3 жыл бұрын
Shame about the boring machine being left encased in the tunnel - it would make a superb display piece in a museum. That would have been amazing to see.
@michaelcorbidge7914
@michaelcorbidge7914 3 жыл бұрын
Or , the tunnel could become the museum .
@tommylawton6253
@tommylawton6253 3 жыл бұрын
Go and grab it should still be there
@tommylawton6253
@tommylawton6253 3 жыл бұрын
Go and grab it should still be there
@NickGroves-fz7in
@NickGroves-fz7in 3 жыл бұрын
Probably a bit boring.... 🤣🤣
@Giruno56
@Giruno56 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, such a device is a perfect showcase of the engineering spirit of the time. I do think it has something quite mystical and beautiful as well, knowing that somewhere out there, under the channel, lies a centuries old tunnel boring machine. The second is definitely the more peculiar of these...
@GreenJimll
@GreenJimll 3 жыл бұрын
I like how at 1:32 Paul carefully opens the gate to walk through rather than just walks round it like lots of other people obviously do. Very well behaved boy. :-)
@ausie7of9
@ausie7of9 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same, I had to rewind I thought my eyesight was going and I somehow missed the fence
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
Haha.... I didn't even notice that until Rebecca asked why I didn't walk around it.
@ruairidhmunro
@ruairidhmunro 3 жыл бұрын
@@pwhitewick Even more so, given the fact that he obviously came through the gate to place the camera and setup the shot, before going BACK through the gate before we actualy see him using the gate ... so that THREE times through the gate rather than around it !!
@cdl0
@cdl0 3 жыл бұрын
Photographer Steve O'Nions plays similar games with stiles and gates on his expeditions. Spotting the joke is popular with viewers.
@whereinsussex
@whereinsussex 3 жыл бұрын
So what is the gate for??!!
@philsharp758
@philsharp758 3 жыл бұрын
In the 1910’s when German invasion was feared, the minister responsible said that such a scenario was impossible “As they would never get past the ticket barrier at Charing Cross.”
@albertbatfinder5240
@albertbatfinder5240 3 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly right. The rail company would simply void their tickets, and the Germans, being very rule-abiding, would have no choice but to turn back.
@user-hv6wb5gk8p
@user-hv6wb5gk8p 3 жыл бұрын
@@albertbatfinder5240 As a german I have to say that during such lawless times a second line of defense would be necessary. A perpetually red traffic light should do the trick.
@albertbatfinder5240
@albertbatfinder5240 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-hv6wb5gk8p Desperate times call for desperate measures, and do believe that the British would be so dastardly as to employ such a mechanism as the Perpetual Red Light. In spite of the Road Rules Act of 1930 and the Road Traffic Act of 1934, both of which were in contravention of earlier legislation, Bletchley Park were already working on a scheme code-named “M25”, the implications of which would not be felt for 7 decades..
@nicksothep8472
@nicksothep8472 3 жыл бұрын
British humor never fails to deliver ☠️😅
@jannejohansson3383
@jannejohansson3383 3 жыл бұрын
If France was intrested trolling gems, they just lay rail tracks over hill and add some grease, and that will took time to hitler gonna die to figure thing that can handle that railroad. He liked trains and only recorded normal voice of his in railroad caddy. Other times he screamed like a hitler.
@RossMaynardProcessExcellence
@RossMaynardProcessExcellence 3 жыл бұрын
A bridge held up by balloons. Just wait till Boris gets hold of that Idea! Interesting video.
@robinjones6999
@robinjones6999 3 жыл бұрын
They will be his special magic balloons
@RossMaynardProcessExcellence
@RossMaynardProcessExcellence 3 жыл бұрын
@@robinjones6999 it's literally"levelling up".
@RichardWatt
@RichardWatt 3 жыл бұрын
Well, he could keep the balloons filled up with all of his hot air.
@mickeythompson9537
@mickeythompson9537 3 жыл бұрын
It is almost as stupid as Johnson's garden bridge, NI-Scotland bridge, Thames airport, and berxit nonsense.
@mickeythompson9537
@mickeythompson9537 3 жыл бұрын
@@robinjones6999 If he'd ever used one of those special baloons he might know how many children he has sired.
@Soundbrigade
@Soundbrigade 3 жыл бұрын
There was an anecdote (hope no-one has shared it already) about a father and his son offering to dig the tunnel. The father would start digging from England and the son from France. - But what if you miss each other? - well, then you get to tunnels at the price of one ….
@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 3 жыл бұрын
In Denmark, on the coast of the island of Lolland, we have just started building the "Fehmarn Belt Tunnel" from Denmark to Germany: 18 kilometer consisting of 200 m land-built concrete elements, to be sailed out and sunk and connected to each other and for both cars and trains to transport themselves in the tunnel tubes! This will be the last part of a European transport route connecting Germany with Denmark and Scandinavia, and not having to go up Jutland and crossing the Storebælt Bridge, as this is a much longer distance. We now have a bridge and tunnel, going up from the under the sea to enter the Øresundsbridge, from Denmark to Sweden. The built of the new tunnel may be followed on KZbin, as they have several cameras constantly following the building area in real time. A little like watching paint to dry ;-)
@ravenouself4181
@ravenouself4181 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, that's the big island with Copenhagen on it.
@Genius_at_Work
@Genius_at_Work 3 жыл бұрын
The Problem is that Germany hasn't decided yet where to build the Railway and Highway going to that Tunnel, not even whether to build them at all. Given how German Infrastructure Projects usually go, epsecially the Rail Line probably still is a good 20-50 Years away, rendering the Tunnel useless for at least a few Years after Completion. Just look at the Brenner Base Tunnel in Austria; it is nearing Completion and Germany still is in that Phase of debating. Or the Gotthard Base Tunnel in Switzerland, where Germany promised in the 80s to upgrade the Karlsruhe Basel Line to four Tracks to accomodate the increased Traffic. The NIMBYs managed to slow that down so much, it is now estimated to be completed in the 2050s. That's a dumbfunding 70 Years to add two Tracks to about 150 km of already existing Rail Line.
@mikehindson-evans159
@mikehindson-evans159 2 жыл бұрын
@@Genius_at_Work Don't worry - it took the UK another 13 years to build our high-speed line from the UK Chunnel entrance up to London. Step by step...
@christianfreedom-seeker934
@christianfreedom-seeker934 2 жыл бұрын
Denmark is already connected to Germany by land. Why the waste of money??
@brucezimmerman9451
@brucezimmerman9451 2 жыл бұрын
@@christianfreedom-seeker934 There are two portions as I recall - first shorter tunnel connects Denmark to the German Island then the island will connect to Sweden via a second longer tunnel. So it will connect Germany to Sweden and avoid the loop north and over the bridge connecting Denmark and Sweden.
@ruairidhmunro
@ruairidhmunro 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice the skillfully reversing trucks @1:03 ...
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
In perfect rhythm.
@Genius_at_Work
@Genius_at_Work 3 жыл бұрын
That's some very good reversing into the Roundabout below as well. Or it's just reversed Footage of the Ferries unloading.
@Ben31337l
@Ben31337l 3 жыл бұрын
0:58 that's some very good coordinated reversing of the vehicles on the ramp.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I caught it on camera
@Ben31337l
@Ben31337l 3 жыл бұрын
@@pwhitewick I know right! Amazing catch!
@newbarker523
@newbarker523 3 жыл бұрын
I had to watch that about 7 times until I noticed!
@Ben31337l
@Ben31337l 3 жыл бұрын
@@newbarker523 I noticed that on the first run.
@Genius_at_Work
@Genius_at_Work 3 жыл бұрын
That's some very good reversing into the Roundabout below as well. Or it's just reversed Footage of the Ferries unloading.
@brucedanton3669
@brucedanton3669 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this of course-well done too!!
@timrichards4977
@timrichards4977 3 жыл бұрын
I’m born and raised in Dover, currently work within the Port of Dover (I could see my office in the video which was quite cool). I loved this little history lesson. Keep them coming!
@mardyart
@mardyart 3 жыл бұрын
The production value of the videos alone demands more subscribers.
@WellingtonIronman
@WellingtonIronman 2 жыл бұрын
Really nicely put together. Editing, sound , script. All professional level stuff
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@robertdrinkall8947
@robertdrinkall8947 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Nice to see Rebecca has found work as an Extra! 😁😁
@phillunn4691
@phillunn4691 3 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant video! I never knew there was an attempt to build a channel tunnel in the 1800s I thought that the 1994 one was the only attempt at building a channel tunnel. You always deliver Paul and Rebecca. I’ll look forward to seeing next week’s video.👍🏼
@earthman6700
@earthman6700 3 жыл бұрын
Samphire Hoe, the reclaimed land has access to the 1970's Tunnel which in turn has an access to the 1800's Tunnel. The 1970's Tunnel was to become an access point for the Service Tunnel.
@davidroddini1512
@davidroddini1512 3 жыл бұрын
Always amazed at how something with so much boring about it could be so interesting.
@henryhorner3182
@henryhorner3182 3 жыл бұрын
The video would be much better without that sickening British accent.
@SarahWithCamera
@SarahWithCamera 3 жыл бұрын
Just excellent. Lovely camera work. Clearly presented. Well researched. Everything a documentary should be.
@robertward7449
@robertward7449 3 жыл бұрын
Bridge suspended from balloons - love it! Just what we need for Boris's NI Bridge!
@prest0lee
@prest0lee 3 жыл бұрын
But where could we possibly get enough hot air from for Boris' bridge I wonder ?!?
@briannem.6787
@briannem.6787 3 жыл бұрын
@@prest0lee Sit a bunch of conservative politicians under the balloons, simple!
@OrganMusicYT
@OrganMusicYT 3 жыл бұрын
I am quite sure that the SNP was also looking into the idea of a crossing to N.I, up till the point that Boris thought it was a good idea. A floating tunnel as has been built elsewhere would have been a better idea. It would also bring a boost to the economy of the southwest of Scotland, which is a pretty forgotten part of the UK.
@georgebarnes8163
@georgebarnes8163 3 жыл бұрын
floating customs control would also be needed
@elvico2216
@elvico2216 3 жыл бұрын
Still your leader
@linkinthedescription113
@linkinthedescription113 3 жыл бұрын
Very impressed by the attention to detail of your production. For a KZbin video feels like a BBC documentary. Well done 👏
@jontisaurusrex9851
@jontisaurusrex9851 2 жыл бұрын
You did a better job than most BBC documentary's, well done
@MRSPARISH
@MRSPARISH 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Paul and Rebecca, my husbands choice of TV tonight on 23 December 2021 is this clip, his words... "Ive been meaning to watch this for ages" - Team Parish.
@adrianbaker5916
@adrianbaker5916 3 жыл бұрын
You'd have to take a ferry or a plane of course. Someone forgot about the Hovercraft.
@abarratt8869
@abarratt8869 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, the hovercraft, never got to go on it when it was operating. I can remember that it was generally reckoned that a bumpy ride on the hovercraft would put tens of thousands of miles of wear on a car's suspension. And any attempt at a drink would result in a need to change clothing...
@andycooke6231
@andycooke6231 3 жыл бұрын
When the sea was like a mill pond it was the only way to travel, I used it about half a dozen times. If you took it to Boulogne you could board a train at the hoverport straight on a train to Paris.
@abarratt8869
@abarratt8869 3 жыл бұрын
@@andycooke6231 I'm very jealous! We look at today's Eurostar time to Paris as being fairly good, but it's easy to forget how good prior setups (like the hovercraft arriving at a train station) were for their day. Brunel built the GW Railway to cut a few days off the transatlantic crossing time, which was pretty advanced as a concept in its day. I'm sure Brunel would be amazed at today's air travel, though I doubt I could give him a good answer if he asked why we waste the speed with countless hours stuck in the airport doing baggage reclaim, etc. I've often thought that the only proper transatlantic air service was Concorde, not because it went Mach 2 but because it had checkin times of 10 minutes and zero queues at either end. Even JFK ATC staff got in on it, often giving Concorde a priority approach because it was just so cool to see it land. Sure, expensive, but delay-free travel actually achieved. And despite the advances of Zoom calls, etc, Concorde's time is still quicker than it takes everyone to get mics, cameras on and their Internet connection up and their cat out of the room, before they even begin to hunt for the meeting invite code.
@tomkent4656
@tomkent4656 3 жыл бұрын
The Hovercraft was a ferry.
@Sandra-A
@Sandra-A 3 жыл бұрын
@@abarratt8869 ha ha that was funny. Not much better on the Seacat catamaran. Started off well but ended up with 80% of all passengers being sick. What fun! 🤣
@QALibrary
@QALibrary 3 жыл бұрын
Did Paul miss out the 1970s start at a tunnel which is now part of the service road/tunnel of the current tunnel? In 2000 the owners of the channel tunnel company put in a "white paper" to the government about building a replacement/enhancement of the channel tunnel (seeing it was only designed to last to X date) and add in a road only tunnel (from doing some more reading this was part of the original lience of the project) Also part of this plain was a possible second rail link groups of tunnels (I am thinking another 3) which let Eurostar and international freight trains use one set of tunnels while the existing tunnel could be used by freight and car shuttle services.
@briantheminer
@briantheminer 3 жыл бұрын
I recognise QA library, you must have heaps of photos of the TML project and the old machine that was excavated in Folkestone too.
@NOWThatsRichy
@NOWThatsRichy 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was going to say the same thing, a tunnel was started in the early 1970s & got several hundred yards out before abandonment.
@HarryJMac
@HarryJMac 3 жыл бұрын
That "white paper" was the result of a clause in the Channel Tunnel Act which was put there to placate Maggie Thatcher who always wanted a bridge.
@tippyc2
@tippyc2 3 жыл бұрын
Convince Europeans to build infrastructure for cars? nice joke that is
@richard-riku
@richard-riku 3 жыл бұрын
@@tippyc2 I think there is plenty of road infrastructure built for cars in europe. World's longest road tunnel: Norway. Bridge between Denmark and Sweden: road + rail. The bridges linking Denmark together: road + rail.
@stevecriddle
@stevecriddle 3 жыл бұрын
I think there was also a tunnelling attempt in the 70s, which was then stopped. Going out from Shakespeare Cliff. I believe it was picked up again when they built the current tunnel
@The__ASH
@The__ASH 3 жыл бұрын
Correct, if you go to Samphire Hoe (where Paul is wandering about in some of this vid) the Channel Tunnel service entrance there is where the 70’s attempt started.
@HarryJMac
@HarryJMac 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. The project was stopped by the Labour government who decided that they could afford Concorde or the Tunnel but not both. It was stopped just as boring was about to commence but the government allowed 400metres to be dug after cancellation to prove that the machine would work as designed. This 400m section is 4.5m diameter even though the rest of the Service Tunnel is 4.8m dia and was a great help in the 1994 project as it allowed the new tunneling machine to be fully built underground. This is one reason why the UK side was able to start tunnelling about a year earlier than the French.
@xenon53827
@xenon53827 3 жыл бұрын
@@HarryJMac It was billed as the "Chunnel". I remember it on the news. I am old.
@andyharpist2938
@andyharpist2938 3 жыл бұрын
@@HarryJMac I drink in the pub with a bloke who worked on it..and also on the final Channel Tunnel Project.
@tjm3900
@tjm3900 3 жыл бұрын
Although the 70's tunnel was officially abandoned, pumps were still kept in use to keep it dry. I think somebody was hedging their bets !
@Hairnicks
@Hairnicks 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating Paul and Rebecca, your vids are just not long enough, could listen to you all day.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@emmaandserendipity
@emmaandserendipity 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul. brought back memories of my father showing me his early Channel Tunnel Share Certificate and hoping it was going to be worth something when the "1994" tunnel was built. - sadly not to be the case,
@RandomPerson-ob1hk
@RandomPerson-ob1hk 3 жыл бұрын
It's probably worth even more that nobody will use it
@mokonono5903
@mokonono5903 2 жыл бұрын
@@RandomPerson-ob1hk I wouldn't think so, if it was successful it would still be much more profitable, but his could probably really only sell as a bit of a novelty at a pawn shop somewhere
@brianscales9912
@brianscales9912 3 жыл бұрын
Another BRILLIANT vid Paul. VERY interesting and informative as ALWAYS! 👍
@petergambier
@petergambier 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting story about the 1880's tunnel thanks Paul. Loved the electrostatic bridge, (how do the balloons stay up?) and the Captain English rotary boring machine. It could cut about half a mile a month, keeping to a 1 in 80 gradient, what bit of engineering and digging and faster than Beaumont's machine which somehow took the credit for the dig when in fact it was English's machine that had done the work. Despite English's letters of protest the editor refused to change the story and Beaumont did nothing about it either. It seems a pity that they left the machine behind, which one was it? During WW1 another great tunneling device was built and shipped out to the trenches where I think it was to be used to bore a tunnel out to and under the entrenched German position on the Salient. It managed about 50 yards and packed in, never to work again.
@CL-vz6ch
@CL-vz6ch 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like something Boris Johnson would propose.
@hainanbob6144
@hainanbob6144 2 жыл бұрын
Don't ever stop doing what you're doing! I love your videos.
@joshweinstein5345
@joshweinstein5345 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff, as always! Love this mini-documentary format and love how you dig up these amazing old schemes👍
@UKAbandonedMineExplores
@UKAbandonedMineExplores 3 жыл бұрын
Done a lot of research on the original channel tunnel efforts but even I picked up a few new nuggets of info there :)
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
🙏👍
@jamiemclaughlin6899
@jamiemclaughlin6899 3 жыл бұрын
I did enjoy the history. I just kinda think using a picture of the interior of the tunnel as the video thumbnail suggests that at some point we will be going in there, not just displaying still photos from other sources while walking around outside 🙂
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
We looked... we think we found the entrance, but you'd need a) a strong nerve in a one way tunnel and b) a set of wrenches.
@cinematix2988
@cinematix2988 2 жыл бұрын
@@flynnhunter3795 I think there are actual video of people going in, I forgot the name of the channel though
@davie941
@davie941 3 жыл бұрын
hi paul and rebecca , great video as alyways , you both brighten up my sundays , well done and thank you guys :)
@_Egitor
@_Egitor 2 жыл бұрын
Crossing pre-tunnel had to be done in a plane or ferry? Sounds like somebody hasn't experienced the channel hovercrafts!
@simonballard6413
@simonballard6413 3 жыл бұрын
What a fascinating video - thanks, Paul. I was so delighted when the Channel Tunnel opened, that I just HAD to travel through it! Far the best way of getting to Europe.
@andymiller4971
@andymiller4971 3 жыл бұрын
A super production , it seems some tunnel somewhere around the world has a boring machine left behind as a permanent resident .
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much standard practice, they steer the TBM into the side of the tunnel until it is completely out of the way. Probably salvage a lot of parts from the carcass before walling it in.
@Matt-pt3vq
@Matt-pt3vq 3 жыл бұрын
Another gem of a video Paul.
@ReubenAshwell
@ReubenAshwell 3 жыл бұрын
This is a brilliant video. :) Very fascinating the history of the attempts to link Britain to France is.
@richardberechula2942
@richardberechula2942 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe do a combination of the late 19th century tunnel attempts strictly RELATED TO Sir Edward Watkin's rôles (him wearing a number of different hats) and the overall idea of the "North of England" being connected to Paris, Brussels, Amsterdam .......... etc.?? (you could combine this with a token, symbolic reccie of a 'lost station' along one of Sir Edward's abandoned rlys). P.S. Love your series - INSPIRING and positive. Please keep 'em rollin'!
@johnjephcote7636
@johnjephcote7636 3 жыл бұрын
My 'Punch' for the time depicts Linley Sambourne's cartoon of Sir Edward saying "Oh Mersea, why can't I have a tunnel?" (mercy/recent Mersea tunnel). He did control what became the Great Central, and via the Metroplitan, the South Eastern and indeed, when the MSLR became the GCR in 1899, it was built to the continental loading gauge (which pearl, BR and our Government cast away in 1967).
@pj100565
@pj100565 3 жыл бұрын
Not too off topic, I hope; there are numerous railway tunnels between Folkestone and Dover. As a conductor needing to learn the route, we were taught the acronym MASH to help us memorise them. Martello, Abbotscliffe, Shakespeare and Harbour.
@CamelOfAll
@CamelOfAll 3 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful video, loved the camera work and the history. Really lovely!
@spgranorthiam123
@spgranorthiam123 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a wonderful documentary, I use to go to Folkstone once many years age, look for fossils in the Gault Clay, and chalk cliffs, use park up at below little Switzerland, walked from Folkstone to Dover and Dover to Deal, such wonderful part of world, and so well shown by your film, I spent many happy days just walking there,
@aquissuk
@aquissuk 3 жыл бұрын
Erm...am I missing a see through fence or did Paul literally just open a gate when he could walk around 😂😂
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely clear barrier/fence. I did well to avoid it.
@aquissuk
@aquissuk 3 жыл бұрын
@@pwhitewick You could have done yourself a right injury. Lucky that gate was there!
@Sim0nTrains
@Sim0nTrains 3 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't find me walking a bridge with balloons holding it, that is bonkers! Alexandre Lavalley look like someone who was mad in the painting but the video was really epic listening to these proposals which were rejected!
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
When I found his picture I though I must have the wrong person!
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 3 жыл бұрын
Even if they bundled together all the balloons stretching from from Dover to France, I really doubt that they could keep a locomotive aloft! Actually Alexandre Lavalley was quite mad to think his Panama Canal dug at sea-level could succeed!
@GreboGent
@GreboGent 3 жыл бұрын
If that bridge had been made I’m sure we’d have referred to it as the Heath Robinson bridge haha
@everestyeti
@everestyeti Жыл бұрын
Another brilliant film, thanks guy's. 👍🤗
@radiosnail
@radiosnail 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I didn't know about the 1880s attempt being plugged by the modern tunnel. I read somewhere that coal was discovered during the 1880s attempt,which was the origin of the Kent coalfields.
@fujiuser1968
@fujiuser1968 3 жыл бұрын
What is now Samphire Hoe was originally a coal mine,just not a very good 1 so it closed not long after it was founded.
@grahamsecr3677
@grahamsecr3677 2 жыл бұрын
The productive mines were at Chislet, Tilmanstone, Snowdown and Betteshanger.
@craigruddlesdin9561
@craigruddlesdin9561 3 жыл бұрын
You need your own tv program you are brilliant 🤩 thank you for the video
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
Love you Craig
@craigruddlesdin9561
@craigruddlesdin9561 3 жыл бұрын
@@pwhitewick please can you do the Lynton and Barnstaple railway at some point and the woodhead railway I’d love to see your take on it
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
@@craigruddlesdin9561 we've literally just filmed Devon and Somerset. Missed the Lyton I'm afraid.
@petetrundell5454
@petetrundell5454 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of info there I didn’t know about. Thanks. When The Chunnel was being constructed there were regular recruitment days for new staff. The working conditions were so alarming that a large proportion of new staff never returned to work after their first day. I was involved in the construction of the new road to Dover, part of which has a short tunnel just the other side of the hill you stood on which was built two years after ‘The Chunnel’. There were lots of stories of motorist that drove in and then out 300 yards later thinking they were in France! Did you enjoy the cliff-top cafe. You must have tried it, surely!😍 I’ve spent many, many ‘working hours’ there in the summer sunshine.😁
@hairyairey
@hairyairey 3 жыл бұрын
That would explain the dozen deaths on our side, far more than the French side. The English were more interested in beating the French than their colleagues going home at night.
@UsualmikeTelevision
@UsualmikeTelevision 3 жыл бұрын
This was an amazing video. I really enjoyed this look at the Channel Tunnel! Great Video!
@The__ASH
@The__ASH 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the inside of the pictured failed tunnel attempt, my father was a civil engineer and over the years I have read much about the various attempts. If you search elsewhere on here the IKS boys have been down there a couple of times, I guess I’ll have to settle for watching that, certainly considerably safer.
@TheAkashicTraveller
@TheAkashicTraveller 3 жыл бұрын
There's video on youtube of some guys exploring it.
@websitesthatneedanem
@websitesthatneedanem 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent production values! 👍
@brianrobinson4401
@brianrobinson4401 3 жыл бұрын
I did like the end of your video as it shows my old caravan site across from the Royal Ork pub at Capel Le Ferne and you can still see the old foot path down the cliff its a nice walk down and across the old bridge that goes across the railway line . Going back up the path is a killer !! but it is a nice walk along the cliffs to Dover or Folkstone .
@davidberlanny3308
@davidberlanny3308 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, very well researched and edited
@brianartillery
@brianartillery 3 жыл бұрын
Yet another totally absorbing and fascinating video! Thank you. Dover- based IKS Exploration made a couple of videos a few years back, where they try to see just how far they can get along one of the underwater bores. Not a comfortable watch if you are claustrophobic, as the water starts to meet the ceiling, but fascinating nonetheless. They did it so that you don't have to.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
Haha... yes watched them both. Completely mad. Enjoy the channel though.
@arrangrant6037
@arrangrant6037 3 жыл бұрын
@@pwhitewick Yes the last IKS explorer of this tunnel was one of the best videos I’ve seen on YT Ian and Chris were extremely brave to go in so far into it Ian said it would probably be the last time they would go in as it was becoming so unstable
@sarkybugger5009
@sarkybugger5009 3 жыл бұрын
@@pwhitewick I grew up in Capel-le-ferne, the village on top of the cliffs. Back in the 1970s and 80s, the 1880 workings were easily accessible with the aid of a large spanner. Some friends and I got about 100 yards in before the water got too deep. No such thing as LED torches in those days, so it was really spooky. You can hear the trains running above you on the mainline railway. The modern Channel Tunnel doesn't go anywhere near the 1880 tunnel, so Paul has that bit wrong. He is probably referring to the 1970s effort, which intersects the modern tunnel at what used to be pit bottom at Shakespeare. I helped build the new one. ;o) Edit to add: At the start of the video, he is at Caesars Camp, the remains of a Roman fort. There's a lot of history in these here parts.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
@@sarkybugger5009 Odd because the source I read suggest ".....both recent tunnel efforts of 1974 and 1988 required remedial works to be carried out!"
@sarkybugger5009
@sarkybugger5009 3 жыл бұрын
@@pwhitewick Which have nothing to do with the 1880 tunnel, as I said, which doesn't go anywhere near the new one. Look at a map, and see for yourself. Heading 20, which is the entrance to the 1880 tunnel, is almost *two miles* from the top of the adit at Shakespeare.
@robinhayhurst5943
@robinhayhurst5943 3 жыл бұрын
Back to over 12 minutes... Good man! (and as usual, great video)
@Odin029
@Odin029 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a balloon supported bridge, but I wouldn't actually go across one
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
Likewise!!
@NonstopEurotrip
@NonstopEurotrip 3 жыл бұрын
Really excellent video Paul, very fascinating 🙏🏻🤩
@RaggiBoy1
@RaggiBoy1 3 жыл бұрын
One of my ancestors was an engineer involved in the project, I have some of the blueprints. He also engineered the east and west India docks that now are called canary warf.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see those
@ollllj
@ollllj 3 жыл бұрын
cool story, narcicist.
@Idler_JP
@Idler_JP 2 жыл бұрын
@@ollllj Yes, your comment is FAR more interesting. Please continue to not share any information about yourself. The aura of silent mystery suits you.
@ubercop2000
@ubercop2000 2 жыл бұрын
i liked the scenery of your hike
@Sterlingjob
@Sterlingjob 3 жыл бұрын
The hovercraft was and still is the fastest way to cross the channel….as zippy said…it’s a lot less bovver with a hover!
@pj100565
@pj100565 3 жыл бұрын
But not economically viable given the cost of the aviation fuel it burned. We just need someone to invent an electric version!
@Sterlingjob
@Sterlingjob 3 жыл бұрын
@@pj100565 only burnt 2.5 tonnes per crossing at 70mph! Guess you could put new engines in and make out of carbon reinforced plastic!
@phillipsmiley5930
@phillipsmiley5930 3 жыл бұрын
@@pj100565 The SRN4 turbines could have been converted to burn methane but the tunnel,and end of duty free killed it
@hairyairey
@hairyairey 3 жыл бұрын
It needed calm weather and actually the transit of the tunnel takes 20 minutes, faster than the hovercraft. There are two drivers on the train, one at each end. The train can be split in the middle in the event of a fire and the non-burning end driven out of the tunnel. This is why there are no standing passengers on the train. Any passengers beyond the fire that cannot get to the other half of the train are evacuated into the service tunnel.
@Sterlingjob
@Sterlingjob 3 жыл бұрын
@@hairyairey The srn4 can travel weathers up to sea state 7 which I believe is 2m high waves so doesn’t need calm waters. Travel time for the train is 35 mins not 20.
@bilbobaggins9914
@bilbobaggins9914 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely nicely presented with great local historical information. Thanks!
@nilo70
@nilo70 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you both for making this wonderful investigation ! Personally I like the balloon railroad .
@VoidHalo
@VoidHalo 3 жыл бұрын
First time watcher here. I thought that was amazingly well done and you, sir have just earned yourself a new sub. Cheers. =)
@taloire43
@taloire43 3 жыл бұрын
It still beats me how British engineers using imperial measurement met up with French engineers using the metric system!
@abarratt8869
@abarratt8869 3 жыл бұрын
Possibly because imperial units are derived from metric standards for the kg, meter, etc...
@firesurfer
@firesurfer 3 жыл бұрын
@@abarratt8869 Precision is the result of care and craftsmanship. Not the use of any standard. All standards can be equally precise.
@abarratt8869
@abarratt8869 3 жыл бұрын
@@firesurfer Sure, but it's very difficult to say whether two parts made by engineers using different physical standards will fit together. The reason the world decided to go with one system of physical standards ("metric"), and define local units as fixed ratios of metric (e.g. 1inch = 25.4mm, thank you Mr Johansson), was to solve that interchangeability problem and make things like Concorde possible.
@davidsalisbury50
@davidsalisbury50 3 жыл бұрын
All the channel tunnel was built using metric
@Bicyclehub
@Bicyclehub 3 жыл бұрын
First class camerawork and perfect editing. An amazing number of different locations and shots. Very interesting too!
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@chrisb012
@chrisb012 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I knew a gent who was an engineer on the current tunnel, and was there when they breached the 1880s tunnel. Surprised was putting it mildly. Once they’d pumped out the 1880s tunnel, they did see the boring machine, but couldn’t save it. They had to cap it off, as the old tunnel was compromised, and slowly filling up with water.
@davidsalisbury50
@davidsalisbury50 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but not so. I was one of those engineers. We knew it was there and had a well prepared plan on how to deal with it. It was a very interesting exercise as we had to remove the timber and steel lagging used to support the walls before backfilling a section with foam concrete for the two running tunnels to pass through without being damaged by the timber and steel. Quite a scary process.
@chrisb012
@chrisb012 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidsalisbury50 Thanks for the feedback. I’m only going on what he told me. Maybe he missed the briefing, as they say. Please tell me you saw the machine though. Hate to think I fell for an exaggeration….
@davidsalisbury50
@davidsalisbury50 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisb012 Dear Christopher. Its a a long time back and I was a young engineer. As I recall the central service tunnel TBM (or possibly the original 1970's workings had passed through the 1880's tunnel. The main segmental lining of the new tunnels was reinforced concrete segments. but the crossing of the "Beaumont" tunnel (That was the name we used for it) has cast iron sets as a lining that could be dismantled and allow access to the old workings on both sides. When we opened them there was a lot of dirty black water that flooded in. A bit of a sight but not unexpected. We then pumped out the old tunnel until we could access. The tunnel was about 6 foot diameter (it was a pilot test tunnel), lines with circular 3 piece 4'' x 2'' channel sections every 12 feet or so. between the steel rings were rough timbers, simple tree slices still with bark on them. these were to stop any loose rock falling on the miners, not really for support as the chalk marl can support itself for quite a long time. We didn't get as far as the old TBM as it was in the still flooded section. We removed a section of the steel and timber about 50m along the tunnel, built a blockwork and sandbag wall and then worked our way backwards, removing the steel and timber, letting the loose rock fall, then backfilling with foamed concrete/grout. The aim of this was to provide a stable solid material that the larger running tunnel TBM's, either side of the service tunnel, could excavate through without stopping or presenting any problem. Once we backfilled back to the service tunnel we closed the openings and left grout tubes into the crown of the old tunnel that we could pressure grout and fill the final void up. As I recall it was a great success. Another similar TBM from the 1920's was left in the hillside near Folkstone (Whittaker machine). This was excavated and removed by a group of volunteers. Taken to Costain's (I think) plant workshops and given a clean and partial refit so it could be put on display. I believe it ended up in the possession of the Science Museum in storage but I could be wrong.
@chrisb012
@chrisb012 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidsalisbury50 wow, that’s a brilliant write up of what happened, and more detail than I was told at the time. Thank you so much for your account, really appreciated.
@mattjpearce
@mattjpearce 3 жыл бұрын
That was a brilliant little production, thank you for taking your time to do it, oh and I have finally subscribed after watching your weekly videos for god knows how long ha 😁
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. You'd be surprised how many watch and don't subscribe.
@PreNeanderthal
@PreNeanderthal 3 жыл бұрын
What you didn't mention was the big mistake made when planning the whole project. They dug it so that other end of the tunnel comes up in France, when any sane design team would have ensured it came up a few miles further up the coast, in Belgium.
@kawaiilotus
@kawaiilotus 3 жыл бұрын
Haha.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios Жыл бұрын
Nah, it's not to keep the french out, it's to get stuff to france
@randallflagg9498
@randallflagg9498 3 жыл бұрын
Absolute mega bonus points for including some Erasmsus Talbot! I did a little jump for joy when I heard it!
@moonshapedabsolution
@moonshapedabsolution 3 жыл бұрын
It's been over 27 years and the French still haven't sent their soldiers through yet
@GiacomodellaSvezia
@GiacomodellaSvezia 3 жыл бұрын
Any day now...
@abarratt8869
@abarratt8869 3 жыл бұрын
The smell of fish and chips is putting them off...
@barrykelly2451
@barrykelly2451 2 жыл бұрын
Great compilation of history. Thanks for sharing.
@ManilvaRS
@ManilvaRS 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating but also slightly sad to think there’s an early boring machine a hundred or so years old buried out at sea.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
Yup indeed. That would be great to see in a musuem
@ManilvaRS
@ManilvaRS 3 жыл бұрын
@@pwhitewick maybe in 100 years time someone will say the same about the TBM the British left upon completion of the chunnel.
@Logicalx
@Logicalx 3 жыл бұрын
Very easy to watch, and you come across on camera well too. Excellent video.
@LudosErgoSum
@LudosErgoSum 3 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine anything more boring than a KZbin video on the longest under-sea tunnel.
@DM01710
@DM01710 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video thanks for the upload very well put together and presented.
@PibrochPonder
@PibrochPonder 3 жыл бұрын
And we are getting invaded by plastic blow up dinghy now that the French ferry across and the RNLI pick up for the other half. Astonishing they can’t stop this invasion.
@danensis
@danensis 2 жыл бұрын
- They could quite easily if they set up a visa station in France.
@PibrochPonder
@PibrochPonder 2 жыл бұрын
@@danensis considered they have zero right to come here I doubt it would work. Sending them to Rwanda is a better solution. You can’t reward criminal behaviour.
@danensis
@danensis 2 жыл бұрын
@@PibrochPonder - do you work with asylum seekers? The vast majority of them have every right to refugee status, and have legally settled here.
@PibrochPonder
@PibrochPonder 2 жыл бұрын
@@danensis rubbish they are coming from France a safe country. They are economic illegal immigrants end of. They have zero right to be in this country.
@joebobcedar
@joebobcedar 2 жыл бұрын
A wonderfully informative mini documentary. I look forward to more!👍😁👍
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Plenty more to come!
@HenrysAdventures
@HenrysAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Another very interesting video! Love some of those early ideas even if they are a bit mad!
@eddiek0507
@eddiek0507 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video, Some interesting facts and figures about the numerous Channel Tunnel attempts...😀👍
@Vosper385
@Vosper385 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, Great video many thanks, good to see you literally in my back garden!
@londontamilanofficial
@londontamilanofficial 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome information i have subscribed to your channel
@hufc999
@hufc999 3 жыл бұрын
Loving all the videos Paul and Rebecca. Keep them coming. I real enjoy the disused stations videos.
@ducoh2093
@ducoh2093 3 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting video, no bullshit make up or clickbait visuals just good content for engineering geeks like us
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
That's the perfect slot we are looking for.
@WanderingwithWatto
@WanderingwithWatto 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Great film with spot on info. Thanks for sharing. 👍🏻
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. 😊
@WanderingwithWatto
@WanderingwithWatto 3 жыл бұрын
@@pwhitewick really enjoyed your energy and info. 👏🏻👏🏻
@charlottemarceau8062
@charlottemarceau8062 3 жыл бұрын
Love that match-fade of you with the fearsome poulet Francais
@robertperring4194
@robertperring4194 3 жыл бұрын
My area and some of information I wasn't aware. Good research and well produced. Thank you 😊
@sourlemon154
@sourlemon154 3 жыл бұрын
Nice bit of History about my hometown, great Video Chief!
@easytiger652
@easytiger652 3 жыл бұрын
Another great informative vid.many thanks guys.👍😁
@ShootOnFilm
@ShootOnFilm 3 жыл бұрын
Such a professional, interesting, and well-crafted video. BBC quality, really! Thanks!
@newbeginnings8566
@newbeginnings8566 3 жыл бұрын
Great walk to try out.. Great history and great narrative... Thanks very much...
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark.
@jakeytrainspotting1241
@jakeytrainspotting1241 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! I loved the idea of the balloon bridge!
@lookson624
@lookson624 Жыл бұрын
I loved this video. Thanks for your excellent work 👍👍👍
@FlyTyer1948
@FlyTyer1948 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating narrative. Well done. Very nice views of & from the cliffs of Dover too.
@DanielSadjadian
@DanielSadjadian 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a well made video, thoroughly enjoyed it 👍
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Daniel. Very kind.
@DanielSadjadian
@DanielSadjadian 3 жыл бұрын
@@pwhitewick love your channel, has a Tom Scott feel to it. I hope it gets to 100k subs because after that point, channels usually grow rapidly 👍
@SirKenchalot
@SirKenchalot 3 жыл бұрын
The quality of your videos has improved a lot in the past year or two and this was very thoroughly researched and interesting as well as being well shot. Congrats.
@andywillis2650
@andywillis2650 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Paul, but i did notice around the 1.00 min mark, the shot of the port of Dover, why were the vehicles going in reverse !! ? :)
@grahampond2533
@grahampond2533 3 жыл бұрын
I worked in the old Bowmont tunnel for two years in the seventies pumping out the flooded old tunnel but there was no boring machine at the end
@matt.baller
@matt.baller 2 жыл бұрын
Really great video - interesting and well made - cheers folks!
@RobertSmith-zv1xo
@RobertSmith-zv1xo 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't mind more of these mini documentary's or larger in parts. Nicely done Whitewick's!
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert we love making these, so definitely more to follow.
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