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For Coughlan666's 2010 Pwnage Olympics.A long time ago, I made this video about how SN1987A refutes a young universe: Bowden made a completely stupid video trying to excuse it, and in the process (as well as in the comments thereafter) made a lot of stupid claims, like we were seeing it in slow-motion and relativity is wrong. Here's his video: also a sideswipe at zebraone100 who made this video insisting that I got it wrong; in the process of Pwning Bowden, I also eliminated his objection: you want more information as to how a big universe rules out a young universe, see cdk007's "Why Young Earth Creationists Must Deny Gravity, Part I": • Why Young Earth Creati...