PXN v12 Lite vs the Moza Racing R5 the break down.

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Joey BagZ

Joey BagZ

Күн бұрын

My break down of the ‪@PXN_official‬ V12 DDL 6nm bundle and the ‪@MOZARacing‬ R5 bundle. Fight!!!

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@MassBr3d88
@MassBr3d88 25 күн бұрын
i got the 10nm pxn and cw wheel for 540 $ . was deff worth it to me . i wanna try a moza wheel and follow same logic as to pair the pxn to the moza if that works i could buy a bunch of moza . but if not ill just get diff aftermarket wheels on ebay and change button box thingy over.
@MultiAirCool
@MultiAirCool 9 ай бұрын
LIKE from Russia. Informative, detailed and, it seems, unbiased))))
@woodie228
@woodie228 9 ай бұрын
Microcenter has them in stock too. If you have one of those around you. Great bundle.
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 9 ай бұрын
Wish I did. We should be getting one in Miami I believe in March of 2024. Funny story, my wife was on a business trip up to Georgia near one of the 2 stores there. She went in put me on FaceTime and took me around a tour of the store 🤣😂🤣😂. True story. She is awesome.
@justinchin0
@justinchin0 3 ай бұрын
Damn why didn't I see this before getting a thrustmaster t300rs gt!
@Jonas-b4m
@Jonas-b4m 2 ай бұрын
I just sold mine for 300€ and now im getting the V12 just sell it and save up a bit just watch out to not get lowballed
@mapple263
@mapple263 9 ай бұрын
My man Joey keep going with your good an honest reviews... who don't knows you, don't know that you buy from you pocket all this hardware products. Keep going bro. Dumps up
@boso74
@boso74 Ай бұрын
One more question, I've ordered the v12 lite bundle from Amazon, didn't receive it and came across the opportunity to purchase the DDS 10nm wheel base for a decent price. My 12 and 15 yo kids will use it mostly, is it worth getting the 10nm or it will be too strong for them? would the 6nm be more than enough?
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ Ай бұрын
@@boso74 you can turn down the strength. When I had it I would run it at 8nm because my aim right now is wasn’t very rigid and flexed a lot.
@boso74
@boso74 Ай бұрын
@@JoeyBagZ Thank you!
@MassBr3d88
@MassBr3d88 25 күн бұрын
have u tried to pair a moza wheel rim to the pxn? because they both i think use bluetooth to pair them so it should work u would think
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 25 күн бұрын
No don’t think that will work. The only way I have a moza wheel working with the PXN base is using the moza universal hub connected to my pc. And it’s only I believe 2 wheels that have the ports on the back that work with it. The ks wheel and I think the fsr wheel.
@vikoskateeer
@vikoskateeer 9 ай бұрын
Hey Joey would you mind sharing your FF settings in the PXN Mobile app?
@j0rtsy
@j0rtsy 9 ай бұрын
Seconded 👀 @joeybagz
@vikoskateeer
@vikoskateeer 9 ай бұрын
Also would be great if you can make a video about the settings, explaining what they do because i've had a hard time dialing the settings in and they still seem off
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 9 ай бұрын
@@vikoskateeerbro, with that I am very sorry, I have not a clue WTF PXN was thinking when naming the settings. Other than the self explanatory names I don’t know what some of them do. I leave it on the default GT preset and then adjust the ones I know like strength, level of force feed back and road feel. And more fine tuning I do in the sim per car. I wish I had better info for you, I just don’t have that high a level of knowledge when it comes to each of those settings.
@boso74
@boso74 Ай бұрын
I love your reviews, very detailed!! bottom line, for entry level DD wheel around the $400-$500...for PS5 you would recommend PXN v12 Lite ? I'm hesitant because it's a Chinese brand where in the past my experience with Chinese product support was very bad\difficult.
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ Ай бұрын
PS5 and direct drive is a difficult position. Your only 2 “affordable” options are PXN and Fanatec. Fanatec is about $700 just for the GT DD pro 5nm bundle which is a good bundle but pricey. The PXN v12ddl isn’t a bad option as long as you know the issue up front. Yes it’s a Chinese brand, but they are very responsive either through Instagram or their discord. Also on ps5 on GT7 I got disconnects of the wheel base from the console, I would have to unplug and replug the dongle. For me it was intermittent during gameplay, but I also don’t play a lot of GT7. It never happened to me while playing Assetto Corsa competizione, but that’s also a title I didn’t play often. For me since I mainly race on PC having the console compatibility was something I wanted as to not have multiple setup if I wanted to play on my Xbox or ps5. I love my PXN base and wheel, but I will not gloss over the issues that would be disingenuous. On Pc it’s great (the software sucks lol) but the hardware is good. If you are on pa5 only then you need to be away of the disconnect issue, Fanatec has its own list of issues, mainly company wise, hardware wise it’s been great, I have it and use it when I can. If you have any other questions don’t hesitate to ask.
@boso74
@boso74 Ай бұрын
@@JoeyBagZ Thanks Joey. per your recommendation, I did check with Microcenter about the PXN DDS 10NM and they said this product is discontinued. Checking on their website you can still find one in-stock at 2 of their branches (really cheap $127), but they're in different states and no shipping. So I guess I'll go for the DDL 6NM. If I'm a beginner adult, and most likely my teenage kids will use it as well, is it worth the extra $$, or G923 and T300RS will provide similar experience?
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ Ай бұрын
@@boso74 it’s definitely going to be a better experience with a direct drive unit than some of the other gear driven and belt driven units. If this is going to be strictly used on a console like a PlayStation or Xbox I would highly recommend getting it through Amazon. Try it out, if the issues like the disconnecting from the console are a big issue return it, if it’s going to be mainly used on PC then I think you will enjoy it.
@boso74
@boso74 Ай бұрын
​@JoeyBagZ many thanks !
@hippieflip8893
@hippieflip8893 Ай бұрын
A friend of mine got a pxn and it constantly disconnects on console games
@masfabz
@masfabz 3 ай бұрын
This is basically a PXN ad lmao
@jellisgaming
@jellisgaming 2 ай бұрын
How can these companies charge you that much for just a wheel....... that seems crazy
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 2 ай бұрын
Because people are willing to pay it unfortunately
@chrisstubbs428
@chrisstubbs428 2 ай бұрын
Would you be willing to either do a video or reply with assistance using the PXN on games like Dirt 2.0 or WRC Generations? Loving the wheel on ACC (pc) but I can't get it to work on WRC. I've grabbed the download "force feedback" file and attempted to follow their directions by going into "browse local files" from steam and locating the "devices" folder within the "input" folder but I can't find either the Input or devices folder. Even searched within the game for "device_defines" file and couldn't locate. Any help you can provide would be great as their customer service is not the best although I'm really enjoying the wheel
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 2 ай бұрын
I have an older video that addressed that issue and it has links to where I was able to get the info to get it sorted out. It’s been some time so I don’t remember off the top of my head the process.
@rstrn8s
@rstrn8s 9 ай бұрын
Can you see what the actual wheel base is called on the PC in device manager, it would help to know for game compatibility.
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 9 ай бұрын
If you are looking for the device ID of the PXN wheel base check out ARTracers KZbin channel, specifically one of his WRC 2023 videos where he explains how to get force feed back working with the PXN v12 and include the lines of text that include the Device id and I think vendor ID.
@rstrn8s
@rstrn8s 9 ай бұрын
Good info on that video. I now see that PXN Tools download page has Force Feedback Replacement File for WRC, DiRT Rally 2.0, DiRT 4, GRID. Looking for a rally wheel replace my Logi DD Pro which only comes with a D rim. Already ordered the PXN handbrake so maybe the V15 next. @@JoeyBagZ
@vertachi8066
@vertachi8066 8 ай бұрын
​@@rstrn8s Are you getting pxn dds 10nm one or the lite which is 6nm
@kevinlei1969
@kevinlei1969 3 ай бұрын
Can you use the Moza R5 pedals on the PXN V12? The reason i ask is because Moza R5 pedal has a load cell mod
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 3 ай бұрын
If you are using it on PC then yes. You can mix and match. But if you want to use it on Xbox or ps5 then no you have to have the matching pedals plugged into the wheel base.
@sergehercot-gh4io
@sergehercot-gh4io 9 ай бұрын
Bonsoir Joey ai bien écouter ton compte rendu sur le fonctionnement des 2 bases, perso préfère le v12ddl indisponible sur amazon.suis en Belgique,ai regardé le prix du V12 DDS sur Ali, c'est entre 1100 et 1200€ ou dollars us.ils sont carrément perturbés chez Micro center,il ne livre pas en Belgique.😻
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 9 ай бұрын
I have a video coming out today with this info, but you can check on alibaba website. PXN has an official store with v12DDL available. They quoted me $515 shipped to Florida for a bundle.
@yacineabessy4655
@yacineabessy4655 9 ай бұрын
I dont care that much about ffb, but does they have the same smoothness accurcy and feeling ?
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 9 ай бұрын
To me yes they do. But what I am going to do to get a more definitive answer is I will use the moza ES wheel on the PXN base. Doing this I will know if the lightness of the moza ES wheel is contributing to the snappiness and sharp feeling and of the weight of the wheel and PXN button box contribute to not as sharp feeling of the PXN wheel base.
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 9 ай бұрын
So I used the ES wheel with the formula plate on the PXN base. And I was correct. The smaller lighter wheel does make my PXN feel snappier and sharper. The heavier wheel I am using do dampen some of the FFb. I will weigh the wheel later and let you know.
@yacineabessy4655
@yacineabessy4655 9 ай бұрын
@@JoeyBagZ thanks for getting back with more détails really appreciated, so if pxn release a lighter wheel it will make the feeling better, i asked them if they'll release a F1 wheel and they told me yes for next year, i also saw in a short vidéo a prototype of pxn F1 wheel near their prototype pxn v15 in the last gamescom
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 9 ай бұрын
@@yacineabessy4655 I know I saw that video also and started drooling lol. The good part is that since PXN uses the NRG QR so you can source out a smaller thinner wheel if you want. Or custom make one by 3d printing a button box.
@yacineabessy4655
@yacineabessy4655 9 ай бұрын
@@JoeyBagZ i hope acelith will make a rim mod for v12 lite wheel
@rcnotthedrink
@rcnotthedrink 9 ай бұрын
heya!
@shroglife1570
@shroglife1570 Ай бұрын
Do you know if the v12 works on beanng?
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ Ай бұрын
@@shroglife1570 I would imagine so, since it’s a pc title. But I do not own that game so I can not say 100%
@shroglife1570
@shroglife1570 Ай бұрын
@@JoeyBagZ ok thank you
@kevinlei1969
@kevinlei1969 3 ай бұрын
Hi Joey. I'm currently using the T300 and i only play one racing game and it's GT7 in VR on the PS5. I'm thinking of buying the PXN after watching your video but what i wanted to know is how good is the FF? Is the torque good enough? I wonder will it be better than the T300. For me the FF of the T300 is good enough for me. The other thing is how reliable is the connection to the PS5? Does it disconnect regularly as I play a lot of online daily races on GT7 and that will be a deal breaker for me. One last thing is how bad is the oscillation and can it be tuned down? Regarding the setting and since i only play GT7, will the the setting stay after turning off or it need to be set every time when i want to play?
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 3 ай бұрын
I love my PXN base and wheel because it gives me the flexibility of using it on my ps5 and Xbox. I do not rely on it solely for my ps5. As I have mentioned in other videos, the is a issue that happens when using the PXN on ps5 using the n5 adaptor where every so often it disconnects and you have to unplug the n5 dongle and plug it back in. I have had that happen mod race, now for me it isn’t an issue as I do not race seriously in gt7. My main racing is done in PC. So if you are considering the PXN as your main wheel for console, I would rethink it. Unfortunately there is no real inexpensive solution for a direct drive setup on ps5, options like the Logitech G pro are expensive ($800) and don’t include pedals so that’s more money spent. The fanatec GT DD Pro is probably the least expensive unit but it’s $700 and right now Fanatec has its own issues with inconsistent shipping. Another option is using devices like the drive in and ras1ution 2, but they have their own issues and added cost of $100-$120 added onto the price of whatever direct drive bundle you pick. Don’t get me wrong I love my pxn and on PC it’s 100% reliable for me (where I do 99.9% of my sim driving) but on ps 5 it is not as reliable, and unfortunately the disconnect issue isn’t predictable, it’s random, so as long as you know that from the beginning then you can understand that there’s always some trade offs. Watch as many reviews as you can and use that to then make your educated decision.
@kevinlei1969
@kevinlei1969 3 ай бұрын
@@JoeyBagZ Thank you for your quick response. So the random disconnect is kind of deal breaker for me. I understand that the V12 use the dongle that plug in to the base controller port. Have you try plugging a PS5 controller instead of the N5 dongle? Would that work and if it does, would it eliminate the random disconnection problem?
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 3 ай бұрын
@@kevinlei1969 I want to say I tried a ps5 controller but it didn’t work, but I can’t remember off the top of my head since it’s been a few months. I did try it with a ps4 controller and it did work but still had the same disconnect issue. Now I can say that I haven’t had the issue playing ACC, I have always wondered if it’s a GT issue.
@alfredukinombelero3084
@alfredukinombelero3084 9 ай бұрын
-Hola Joey que tal todo espero que bien mira queria preguntarte si al volante pxn el que tiene el led de flecha pxn v12lite hay alguna manera de ponerle el aro de acelit el que tu enseñas en este video o no seria conveniente pedirlo porque queda mal ,ya me dices un saludo grande
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 9 ай бұрын
No, that was the first thing I tried when I got the wheel lol. It’s actually in one of my videos lol. Sorry.
@alfredukinombelero3084
@alfredukinombelero3084 9 ай бұрын
sabes si hay mucha distancia entre agujeros por si puede poner alguanas tuercas oa algo excentrico
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 9 ай бұрын
@@alfredukinombelero3084the bolt holes are fine. It’s the placement of the buttons. That button is smaller than the one that I used from the V12CW 13” wheel. So when you place the Acelith designs Ace-one wheel on it you completely cover up buttons. And also o think there isn’t enough space for the rotary encoders.
@alfredukinombelero3084
@alfredukinombelero3084 9 ай бұрын
ok gracias es que estaba mirando el volante ks que noes barato que digamos pero creo que esta bien ,tu como ves el ks,un saludo grande como siempre
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 9 ай бұрын
@@alfredukinombelero3084 honestly I love it but I haven’t been using it lol. The ES wheel with the formula plate works so well. But it’s definitely worth it.
@jaisilver1477
@jaisilver1477 8 ай бұрын
Where can I buy this from in the uk?
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 8 ай бұрын
Which one the Moza Racing R5 bundle or PXN. 12 Lite bundle?
@mapple263
@mapple263 9 ай бұрын
Joey Bagz its faster 😂😂😂
@mandrakeblackstone5838
@mandrakeblackstone5838 5 ай бұрын
If the wheels settings options is not easy and user friendly that is a minus . The only 2 things you say are better with the PXN is pedals and it being compatible with other devices , How about the T818/Sf 1000 its a direct drive wheel and everyone says the pedals are the best out there plus it can be used as far as I know on any console and PC so wouldn't that make the T818 a better option ?
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 5 ай бұрын
You don’t have to use your phone. They have Pc software. It’s not great software and the phone app sucks just as bad lol but you do not. It’s another option.
@Jay-l8d1b
@Jay-l8d1b 9 ай бұрын
Joey BagZ is slow ❤
@dblgonzo
@dblgonzo 9 ай бұрын
Fanatec bundle is $399 for Xbox, PC and PS5. But really if you are a serious sim racer you are going to be playing on the PC anyway. I waited on the PXN for over a month to come in stock. Then the black Friday sale on Fanatec hit and I got the CSL DD with a load cell brake pedal for under $600 with the McLaren GT3 wheel. The biggest proble is Sony charging too much money to be PS compatibility.
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 9 ай бұрын
The Fanatec GT DD Pro that is PlayStation compatible is $699 before tax and shipping. Add in the McLaren GT3 wheel that is Xbox compatible that’s $199. After tax and shipping it’s $998, and I know this because I am waiting for it to be delivered. The PXN is a better value. And I mention it in my correction video, but you can find the v12 bundle on PXN alibaba store. I messaged them and they quoted me $327 from the bundle and $188 for shipping, total price $515. A little less than half the price of the Fanatec setup.
@Greatgoku4
@Greatgoku4 9 ай бұрын
You keep falsely advertising compatibility with ps5 and xbox. Its not compatible. It uses a shady dongle to bypass security. So its an unreliable compatibility. Not native. You can buy fanatec csldd without 8nm and load cell and then get raslution. You can later upgrade. So its cheaper than pxn ddl. You can also get cammus c5 and raslution for much cheaper. I feel like instead of giving objevtive info you are giving biased info and trying to find angles to sell rhis wheel. Maybe you get paid for this so good luck. But dont ruin your credibility by saying its the best budget dd with console compatibility. Its not true
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 9 ай бұрын
Bro seriously you’re getting old. I don’t get paid to push these wheels. I wish I did. I pay for them out of my own pocket. The dongle works and is no different then the ras1ution. You obviously don’t know of what you speak of. I make the short coming very clear in my video. I have all this hardware and use it. My reviews are of actual real works testing. The eas1ution is not a good option, the dongle from PxN actually works better and gives you better force feed back but you would know that if you actually had any of those hardware and used it. I actually have a GT dd pro the PlayStation compatible version on its way. Then all 3 will be out head to head. So you can take your negativity elsewhere. If you do t like my video by all means stop watching. But do not make false claims. The PXN dongle works. The ras1ution also works on PlayStation but not on Xbox because Microsoft blocked unlicensed 3rd party hardware. So the ras1ution shouldn’t be in any conversation anymore.
@Greatgoku4
@Greatgoku4 9 ай бұрын
@@JoeyBagZ wow I really did hit a nerve eh. That’s what happens when you are clutching at straws and someone gives you truth. And wtf do you mean n5 dongle is better? People have troubles with connecting to ps5 with n5 dongle a lot. It’s not a native compatibility so idk how you’re saying it’s still better than raslution. So then you mention Xbox. Xbox compatibility isn’t really a problem coz moza and fanatec bases are all Xbox compatible as long as you have a wheel. Most people end up getting McLaren gt3 wheel from fanatec which is Xbox compatible by default. And mozas cheapest wheel is Xbox compatible natively. No dongle bs. It’s like you’ve convinced yourself that this is the only bubble you and your channel can exist in current market. The prices would’ve been ok if moza fanatec and cammus didn’t turn the dd world upside down in the last year. And pxn didn’t keep up with those prices. Leaving you and your angles redundant. Grow tf up, you know you’re falsely advertising when you say it’s the best cheapest console compatible wheel. That’s why I keep mentioning raslution since you are going that route. If you have ever watched any reputable reviewer most of them never recommend pxn over other wheels coz the price difference is not enough pxn is too expensive. If pxn was 20-30% cheaper than an actual reputable brand it would make sense. You came off pathetic in your response telling me I’m the one making false claims lol and sure good luck to you with the gt dd pro I’m sure you’ll find ways to say pxn v12 ddl is better than a 8nm load cell fanatec product 😂 it’s almost pathetic. But anyways you gotta make content for your income and this is the route you chose so Godspeed. But the flip side is ppl who understand less will take your word for it and spend same amount of money on an unreliable company and objectively inferior product (torque and pedals wise). I hope some of them read this and do their own research before listening to the ‘pxn guy’
@mapple263
@mapple263 9 ай бұрын
@greatgoku4 My friend, you really don't no what are you talking about. I own a PXN V12 Lite and I tried a fanatec dd pro 8nm GT edition and honestly PXN have the same technology as them, but on the price range PXN offers you better quality finishes and all compatibility Platforms. About to PXN be official in the consoles will take some time, because its a Chinese brand and to get licences and make deals with European and American Market just now its a little complicated or restricted. But what are you thinking? That Fanatec its really made on Germany??? Came on man, everything its produced on China, even the iphones that are america designed and developed product. Keep well regards and change your mind
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 9 ай бұрын
@@mapple263is this comment directed at me or the person above?
@mapple263
@mapple263 9 ай бұрын
@JoeyBagZ it's to the person above my friend
@FumblingButtons
@FumblingButtons 9 ай бұрын
console compatibility... ehh... get a pc lol... consoles are entry level solutions for children.
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 9 ай бұрын
That’s a rather narrow way to see things. Consoles just for shear numbers beat out gaming PC’s. Those children are the ones playing all those games and a lot of the new ones like Forza 2023 and EA WRC 2023 are catered to those console players with controllers. Those are the consumers that pay the bills. Sim racing while becoming more popular is still a niche market. A smart company notices this and offers their product to an adjacent market, console gamers. Fanatec has done it for quite some time. While they are on the upper price point those serious simcade users ( Forza and GT I can’t really call a true sim) use those products. So yea console compatibility is a big thing.
@GG-si7fw
@GG-si7fw 7 ай бұрын
Well said. As I have a PC and an XBOX, my son plays Forza Horizon on the XBOX and I need console compatibility and use a wheel stand so we can adjust for different size drivers.
@JoeyBagZ
@JoeyBagZ 7 ай бұрын
@@GG-si7fw exactly. My boys have a Xbox I have a series x and a PlayStation. No discrimination here. If you’re a gamer, it doesn’t matter what you game on, even table top role playing games, we are family. Let’s show love to all gamers.
@ryzenpeak
@ryzenpeak 4 ай бұрын
​@JoeyBagZ your right it's important but I feel like if your spending that much on a wheel your not doing yourself justice not having a pc, especially considering it's not hard to beat consoles anymore for pc. A 1080ti is better than a ps5 or series x and can be gotten for 150 usd where I'm at, now I understand the market is different in different places but most people where a 1080ti is hard to get a ps5 is hard to get, and so would a 500 dollar racing wheel. Now in your case where you have both it's 100% a great reason to consider a specific wheel. But if your playing especially on older consoles your not getting a wheel that expensive and even Most console players who otherwise are just hard-core sim racers, aren't gonna spend as much as their console on their wheel.
@kevinlei1969
@kevinlei1969 3 ай бұрын
Wait till your play GT7 in VR!
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