Semifinal Clawz vs Rapha PGL 2018 50.000$ Tournament Quake Champions

Semifinal Clawz vs Rapha PGL 2018 50.000$ Tournament Quake Champions
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[@EnnTomi1]

a master vs monster. this is fps at its finest. shame modem "FPS" are all junk

[@Tier4Jean]

But QC is modern FPS too :D

[@callmemvp]

@@Tier4Jean based on an OG fps? U and whoever liked ur comment is stuck on stupid! 😵

[@blade8147]

@@Tier4Jean speech marks are for a reason

[@madson_jck3644]

Yeah, u right dude :)

[@heymate7486]

@@callmemvp Yeah, most games are based and take elements from FPS games before them. Quake elitists are a part of the reason our community is dying, if anything, quake is super vanilla and nothing really special to most FPS games(though, it is apart of the beauty for me).

[@RzrSlayed]

So the self proclaimed "Best Quake Champion player in the world" was 3-0'ed by the actual best player in the world. Glad to see this match come together.

[@notRelevanti]

well the "self-proclaimed" did hit an insane amount of RG across the 3 maps. Say what you will but only for some of his insane rail queues he deserves to be reckoned with. Getting a bit emotional and overconfident did make him loose the matches but considering his age, that's not surprising.

[@gollese]

Well, it happens in all sorts of sports.. Check Germany vs Brazil in fotball, finals. 7-0? for an example.

[@gollese]

And self proclaimed? They have NOTHING to prove, their stats & background says enough. Jeez, these comments on this video... lol

[@_sarpa]

@@gollese 'happens'? every time clawz has faced rapha, he's been destroyed (both duel and 2v2)

[@Destruction52]

clawz's aim + rapha's brain = quake god

[@NaPH273]

no human have enough brain capacity for all that

[@eug3nius]

Clawz needed this to become a better player.

[@thefinnishbolshevik2404]

Rapha also learned to be super careful during this match! Any careless peeking or movement and its 80-90dmg!

[@SoIoCreep]

Clawz will be wearing glasses by the time he's 30. He will have images of quake burned into his retinas sitting that close.

[@kekakaleka_2001]

According to his streams, his eyesight is already in shit :D what a surprise

[@callmemvp]

Yeah and both of their sitting posture is bad too. Bad eyes plus scoliosis = no more prize $ and mediocore quaking without gunnar glasses and a racing chair..I mean wheel chair.

[@KingBarney]

@@callmemvp Tbf, Rapha has back and shoulder issues.

[@michael2305]

he will become a blind gollum.

[@destructo3915]

those 4 consecutive rails with only 10 sec on the clock by clawz is just unbelievable

[@metnoc10]

Im quite happy Clawz was put in his place, I would be lying if I said anything else. Just love to see brains prevailing over combat skills.

[@foundati0n]

Absolutely! Its great that these moba-type abilities reduce the importance of good aim, so that people with worse aim can still come on top if they play smart and hit a good flamestrike or dire orb.

[@Lockout_live]

Raphas combat skills were still pretty amazing. How many clutch rail shots did he get and only have about 20 hp...how many clutch dire orbs? Clawz got handled he wouldnt stand a chancr in ql vs rapha

[@lunarcultist6214]

Well, that's how it goes. You can't get smarter if you're not outsmarted every now and then. Clawz is young, he still has many years to improve. If he keeps at it and doesn't lose his mad aim, he'll be pretty scary by the time he's over 30.

[@foundati0n]

@najtofni Yep, real shame though how the abilities allowed him to worry about tactics less and saved him when his tactics failed. Devs shouldnt have let the DK be in the tourney until it was properly tuned to everyone's approval. But while clawz has his good moments, doesnt mean rapha is actually at a disadvantage in 'combat ability'. No matter now though, the game doesnt strive unless money is being poured into it, seems like a lost cause. Rapha will find a way to strive anyway, though, and clawz can move on with his life doing other ventures.

[@foundati0n]

@najtofni if everyone at the time of the tourney, was able to do 200 damage by flame striking and shooting a rocket at the same time, that makes it fair? Maybe, but unbalanced still. But you cant attribute knowing that the flamestrike didnt intervene with rocket shooting to some incredible game knowledge. At the end, the outcome becomes more random, and based more on these short term things, as opposed to being based on long term control, which is what rapha actually exceeds at.

[@j1shin]

9:30 that move from rapha to get away, just great.

[@Kitto0]

This is why Rapha is true 🐐 of Quake , truly an untouchable legacy

[@kekakaleka_2001]

People give up their thrones sadly, remember Fatal1ty?

[@Kitto0]

VASO yea Fatal1ty had his era undoubtedly but Rapha isn’t contained in single generation of the Quake, he has been active over so many years while playing various iterations of Quake while mastering all of them & never faded away from the scene & had played highest level of quake more consistently over the years than anyone that could be named

[@AbirZenith]

Rapha's accomplishments and consistency shit on Fatal1ty and that is not a knock on him, its just straight up facts

[@Kitto0]

Zenith honestly speaking I like both of them they both have been great ambassadors of the Arena FPS games over the years.My only wish is to see more exposure of the arena genre again & to see people getting involved more into the game again like good ol’ days

[@19AssassinPR93]

Awesome series. It was nice to see Rapha have his aim on point to backup the clever plays. Team Liquid has gotten some payback for the duel BO1 victory of Clawz over Dahang at QuakeCon.

[@smokingspike2558]

46:00

[@helio6839]

This guy is why they nerfed the tri-bolt

[@CYkAZz]

Prolly my Fav. game of PGL 2018

[@michael2305]

I just hope these guys will have many kids.

[@JohnSmith-tr9us]

LMAO what even?

[@michael2305]

I meant seperately...

[@llovebeats3749]

Thats weird, but i agree

[@joseffus5432]

Sickest match of the tournament

[@furmanmarshall9938]

Clawz so close to the monitor he might as well be playing in VR.

[@x-techgaming]

No way...Quake in 1080p, finally!! *claps*

[@DelasVC]

what mouse pad is clawz using?

[@neliiinhu]

last time I saw he was using the BenQ ZOWIE G-SR ;d

[@DelasVC]

Inacius Tenacius thx a lot Buddy ;)

[@neliiinhu]

my pleasure! hf!

[@judge462]

45:37 "Oh fuck" from zoot... ahahaha

[@gloeckle]

60 frames per second is not enough to see Clawz aim!

[@harry-._]

This was the best match from PGL 2018!

[@SamSitar]

both of them belted each other.

[@YOSFPS]

15:20 nice thumbaround by the caster on the left

[@unclerhombus]

Very nice, indeed!

[@falkiiii030]

dat rails OMG. crazy shit going on :O

[@madson_jck3644]

Beautiful fighting!

[@mrspesul]

Raphas movement and jumps > clawz aim

[@neliiinhu]

rapha taking risks with his aim , feels good! with his game reading he surely can milk those rails better than most.

[@jonny2hotty378]

Quake is the only game that im able to sit 1 hour to see all the video

[@Deadmeatsz]

nice infolocks on both players a few times.

[@tommymack3210]

41:13 lmao what the fuck did he just try to say

[@aaigjr]

What's up with the kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKellGWLoJ2Cqbs to kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKellGWLoJ2Cqbs moment, the 12 seconds in reverse? Looks like the highlight person just shot a blank... Also, enough with the CLUTCH!!!

[@TheFilmSpectator]

what's with Clawz icon LOL

[@0x20pirate]

It's the flag of Saudi Arabia

[@AberrantVision]

The tribolt shots of rapha are fucking bonkers, how on earth do you hit all three missiles when clawz is going so fast

[@Deso958]

Thats what makes Rapha great, his ability to change his style of play. Also Raphas ability to see the flawz of Clawz :)

[@callmemvp]

What was clawz flaws..I'm too noob to catch them 😅

[@theluanvuong5886]

Too much aggressive. In a favor trade situation, instead of back off and restock, he tries to do more damage and give Rapha chance to trade back. Also because of his hot head, he blindly rush into a DK with Flame Strike available, CLOSE RANGE lol

[@callmemvp]

Wouldn't it be great if all characters could go head to head with each other without one having an advantage? Is it even possible?

[@theluanvuong5886]

lol it's a Quake duel, not COD death match. You don't fight head on if you know you at a disadvantage, you restock for armor, health and try to chipping away your opponent's resources before commit to a head on fight.

[@callmemvp]

@@theluanvuong5886 makes sense...but that's clawz tho! He will beat Rapha 5 games out of 10 playing his style. It was just Raphas side of the dice that faced this time.

[@helio6839]

53:02 certified caster moment

[@placeholdername3206]

God damn that dude claws has a nasty rail. Hes definetly the better aimer, but rapha is a more complete player which is why he is so succesful

[@unclerhombus]

Does Clawz still play?

[@mrspesul]

Cant use saudj flag unless you use strogg and peeker

[@eug3nius]

right. strogg = israel and peeker = saudi arabia

[@patricksreels]

you can see the lack of experience in clawz with some of the really bad engagements he has chosen during this match

[@AlexMeatman]

Can't wait for the rematch. I bet clawz will put up a challenge after rethinking his game

[@Johny_Silverhands]

Ох ебать еще дисбаланса тут ,но все же мне раундовая дуэль нравится намного больше

[@TheSunIsMyDestroyer]

aimbot.exe stopped working 17:28

[@MegaOrton10]

Rapha deserved to win. This kid hasnt got the experience to beat someone experienced as rapha.

[@nicktan4530]

The look like the same age. Teenager. How old are they ?

[@MegaOrton10]

@@nicktan4530 rapha is 29 and clawz 20

[@nicktan4530]

Thats a big age difference. What about you ?

[@MegaOrton10]

@@nicktan4530 I am 20 exactly as clawz

[@MegaOrton10]

@@nicktan4530 and you?

[@quantessenz]

24:06 Can someone tell me what this jump is?

[@riffrider_]

Probly a rocket jump you can tell when he picks up health bubbles beforehand that the spectator mode was completely glitched out

[@MMORPGmusic]

Rapha is a God 🇺🇸

[@mthom41]

Does rapha put his keyboard on his lap?..

[@johnsmithy7918]

Such a shame that flee and zoot are casting this. These two must be among the most colorless pair of casters in quake history, if not all of esports. Not just because of their lacking analysis but because they are also devoid of any humor or imagination. Unlike Jehar and Ketchup, who have personality and wittyness. But above all I miss the likes of ZSX, DDK, Makaveli and 2GD. Analysis and humor together is the best casting, examples of such is the recent QOL NA with Rapha and Jehar at the mics.

[@mikeloke6695]

End of round 3 was crazy for rapha

[@mrspesul]

Why is that child using a saudi flag?

[@FireAimKill]

Lol, this is Belarus flag

[@gozque8229]

@@FireAimKill no, it´s a saudi flag

[@lunarcultist6214]

For the memes, I guess.

[@SrFulanoTal]

when will we be able to play qc on lan?

[@m4jk149]

clawz much better, rapha just abusing the stupid flamestrike and orb

[@_sarpa]

yeah, you don't understand the game if you think clawz is better than fucking rapha lmao

[@m4jk149]

​@@_sarpa rapha didnt win a single quakecon in last 3 years of Quake champions quakecons, clawz won 2 of them. Facts that talk for itself.

[@hrnekbezucha]

That rail was nuts

[@x-techgaming]

What the hell is the "bpm" thing for? 118 to 0..?

[@kanyegrande4312]

X-Tech Gam!nG I think it is the heart rate. I am probably wrong

[@x-techgaming]

I think...whatever it's supposed to be, it's broken as hell.

[@kiwicami287]

These rails are ridiculous

[@kuracpickagovno]

intense shit

[@someguy2775]

All of the European players look like pretty girls with all that long hair.

[@drakZes]

Clawz literally said taht he was the best Quake player and he couldn't even take a map off of Rapha. Why do you disappoint me Clawz. Clawz is still the best player when it comes to aim, he just need to not rush in 60% if of the time. Those are rookie errors.

[@xXLegacy]

clawz got out played hard. of course he'll have better aim he's younger than rapha and probably plays way more. rapha said in a stream that 4 hours is too long to be playing at 28 years of age. if this were quake live clawz wouldn't even be on the board

[@MycketTuff]

5000 views. Must be an awesome game.

[@callmemvp]

Sarcasm?

[@TranceElevation]

Clawz will be the better player eventually. He's still young.

[@Nikolaos34]

Damn Clawz, you have got to stop playing so recklessly. Of all players to try brute force tactics, Rapha is not the one. Mad respect for both of ya, hell of a game.

[@ЮрийТамоев-э9н]

Rat 🐀 style - always... in every game staying near the wall...

[@GummiTomm]

I think Clawz has the greatest potential in Quake champions. Rapha and Raisy are the best right now but if Clawz takes the game seriously he will become the god of quake. his reactions and natural skills are out of this world, and he is also really young.

[@tommymack3210]

28:32 what ugly accent is this?! Hahah rocket lOUncher

[@callmemvp]

Try playing with this guy in Quake Live..so annoying and they play soundbites of this dude on QLive because he sounds like an alien. 👽

[@DimitriSabadie]

clawz is SO arrogant IMHO. The guy is using the railgun TWICE more than masters as rapha. I love and respect rapha for all of his minded skillset, while I see clawz more like an arrogant and conceited kid - with a formidable aim, that’s for sure. Also, people keep talking about clawz’ ability to aim but dahang and rapha have formidable aim as well.

[@raz1572]

He's just trying to play to his strengths.

[@XFeuerFestX]

Clawz is very clearly one of the best aimers in Quake right now. Not only is his Rail percentage on point, it stays on point while he goes for absolutely insane angles pretty regularly. In that respect, i believe Rapha and Dahang would tell you themselves, they couldn't beat Clawz. Taking tons of rail shot's then is not arrogance, it's him playing to his strengths. If he now learns, to play to his opponent's weaknesses aswell, he'll be insanely strong. I was happy to see Rapha take the win aswell, don't get me wrong. My aim is pretty poor and I constantly have to make up for it in trying to find weakspots in my opponents, so I'm really happy to see that in this case Rapha, as the less mechanical player, was able to beat Clawz. But you can't fault mechanically skilled players to use that skill advantage.

[@DimitriSabadie]

@@XFeuerFestX that's not what I said. Clawz is arrogant in the sense he relies on his formidable aim so much that he always thinks he can stay and face up a full stacked rapha. Also, I disagree that rapha is one of the least mechanically skilled player. He takes incredible shots at rails, RL, LG and SG. And he has the best slash for sure.

[@callmemvp]

@@DimitriSabadie So Rapha's slash is better than Toxjq's then?

[@DimitriSabadie]

I do think so.

[@morristaylor6310]

Everyone is talking about how brilliant rapha is, but all I've seen is super "balanced" abilities thrown at someone who is better than rapha. I'd love to see this visor v visor no abilities

[@XFeuerFestX]

Clawz got outplayed. Rapha explains his tactics in the post game interview and with that in mind you can tell how brilliantly he executed them. That forced Clawz into breakneck engagements where he is vulnerable to Raphas ability play. That being said, DK's ability is really overpowered in QC and I'd like to see that nerfed properly. All in all though, I'm glad abilities exist. They shift the focus a bit further from pure aim skill onto tactical considerations

[@morristaylor6310]

@@XFeuerFestX I can't disagree with pushing clawz into difficult situations, but it makes awful anticlimactic watching, and more than that it seems like a Nerf of skill when there are free kill abilities everywhere in the game. I think dire orb is in the best place as far as skill to useful tool status

[@XFeuerFestX]

I agree with that. I think Flamestrike could be balanced by just making the fire balls slower. That would make it the area denying ability it was meant to be while limiting the instakill potential to very close range situations or extremely skilled shots. Then on top of that maybe decide on one of the two DOT trickles. Either it's the Slash Trail rapid trickle, or it's Sorlag's acid trickle with some added information as a bonus. I see no reason why Deathknight should be allowed both.

[@morristaylor6310]

I don't know if that would be enough, it is very frustrating to die to any of the insta kill abilities at least keel is ultra slow, but it's still kinda cheesy

[@XFeuerFestX]

Gotta look at it this way: Skill in this game is not only dealing the damage, but avoiding to take damage aswell. The big problem right now is that flamestrike is almost impossible to avoid without severly limiting the way you can play, which is not fun. But if it was possible to avoid it by just not running into DK close range aka only somewhat limiting the way you're playing, it becomes a strategic consideration just like the ranger orb. Flamestrike needs to go from "Well fuck, there's nothing I could've done" to "Ah fuck, I shouldn't have done that" That only fixes it for the competitive game modes of course. TDM and DM will always be plagued by instakill abilities, but those are fun modes and shouldn't be the main concern for balancing imo.