Quad9:Proving Their Commitment to Privacy, New DNS Changes, and Why Their Legal Battle Sony Music

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

How Quad9 Got Started, DNS Encryption, and How Quad9 Protects Your Privacy and Security. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJikYaptmsuEeZo Links to Quad9 and their privacy www.quad9.net/service/privacy/ www.quad9.net/about/transparency-report www.quad9.net/news/blog/quad9-and-sony-music-german-injunction-status ⏱ Timestamps ⏱ 00:00 Facbook Outage and It's impact on DNS 13:06 New DNS Changes and Features 15:25 Why Did Quad9 Moved to Switzerland? 19:47 Lawsuit Sony VS Quad9 27:21 New DNS Standards

[@d00dEEE]

Tom, you definitely need to have John on again and discuss some of the things he was thinking about at the end of this video!

[@samuelscheetz]

Quad9 is great! I love how John just got right into it and about 10 minutes in it occurred to me that Tom hadn't said a whole lot, but for the right reason that John was talking about super interesting topics. Keep up the good work over there (both of you)!

[@ursusmaj]

One of the most interesting and important YT videos I have watched in a long time.

[@vmadugolkar]

Using quard9 for a year now as my primary public DNS.

[@ScottPlude]

I've never heard of them before but now I will be dedicating some time to learning more about the company and their offerings in the near future. I like the protections in place for that country.

[@austinwilson930]

Same here. Setup as primary DNS in my Pfsense router with DDNSEC enabled

[@Andrew-jh2bn]

Another alternative is running your own recursive resolver.

[@JuanLopez-db4cc]

Love to have Quad9 back again. Great guests Tom. Keep up the good work!

[@YeOldeTraveller]

Sony thinks installing a rootkit on your PC is appropriate. I think maybe we should filter a known malware provider if this case is upheld.

[@edstar83]

I think telling Sony to get * * * * ed is appropriate,

[@RayOrsini]

Excellent show. Good to see that they're looking at the event and working on what can be improved in their own org. Also great to see that they're not afraid to make things harder on themselves as long as it serves their objectives. Good stuff!

[@mtnsolutions]

Great conversation. Eye opening. Thank you

[@JDSileo]

I think what Sony is doing is tantamount to saying that there is an illegal drug den at the end of the Street and the people who built and maintained the street are culpable because it allows access to that drug den.... That's kind of absurd

[@SyberPrepper]

Fantastic episode. Thank you both!

[@maxxwellwalt]

Taking a DNS provider to court is a really bad idea. It's infact a ridiculous idea. Just because other name resolution services will still be advertising. Also the resulting domino of cases for failing to block sites by a single entity is gonna be interesting. Taking a DNS provider to court is like taking the internet to court.

[@ScottPlude]

I agree 100%. I only wish normal users (our grandparents for example) truly knew how the internet worked. Currently, only .001% of the world knows why squeezing a dns provider is silly. If our grandparents knew how dumb this was, their voice might make this go away.

[@ATomRileyA]

That is why they are doing it, they all want total control of everything its one of the reasons what Skycoin and their Skywire meshnet is so interesting to me as its being built to withstand this kind of attack and i feel like with the way things are going pretty much everything is going to be censored or controlled. But Skywire is going to save us from that.

[@l0gic23]

And yet Sony is suing Quad9 now...

[@maxxwellwalt]

@@l0gic23 Totally insane..

[@edstar83]

@@l0gic23 I'm never buying a Sony product again.

[@mjbates]

Really interesting interview, Thanks Tom and John! I wonder if there would be security concerns for Serve Stale.

[@f-s-r]

There are a lot of websites that have some kind of facebook login, even if it's only for comments. That probably raised the amount of DNS queries a lot. And WhatsApp and Instagram surely didn't help to make the situation any better. Sony taking Quad9 to court is ridiculous. If someone commits a criminal act, then sue the criminals. If someone steals your wallet, then runs away in their motorcycle, you're not going to court against the gas stations, or the highway administrators, etc.

[@l0gic23]

I just learned about the Sony thing the other day. Didn't realize this has been ongoing...

[@TheJensss]

Really hoping to get a Quad9 server location in scandinavia soon

[@terrancegrant1664]

Rocking Quad9 on my PFSense box. :>)

[@homemark22]

Company: Free is not good business , Quad9: Free is always be serves good service

[@MatthewStinar]

People need to stop acting surprised when copyright leads to untenable outcomes and recognize that this is the nature of copyright. You can't domesticate a system who's foundational premise is antithetical to the liberties necessary for civilized society to function. People must be free in their persons and property to the extent that they do not infringe on the same freedoms of others. This by it's very nature precludes copyright because copyright condones the asymmetric infringement of freedom by one party upon another.

[@Ressy66]

As for servstale, should be based on SOA, this means extra lookups caching etc, but it could be likened to a slave, the data on a slave is valid until the expire time, which is commonly one or two weeks to a month, at that time slaves discard and will not serve data, so treat it the same

[@mtnsolutions]

This video earned you my subscription btw

[@Christos9]

Will Quad9 implement serve-stale? I wish they do!

[@marcogenovesi8570]

Hm, that's bs I'd expect from Nintendo, although Sony has been known for this as well. Close all roads because they can be used to breach Sony copyright.

[@WooDong]

Quad9 화이팅

[@dupinboulette]

Nice interview by the way do quad9 have a presence in west Africa ? If not am available …

[@Andrew-jh2bn]

Why not run your own recursive DNS resolver? I don't see how adding an additional third party helps protect privacy.

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

It's not practical for everyone to install their own DNS resolver and Quad9 also filters out malicious sites.

[@Andrew-jh2bn]

@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS it isn't as hard as you think. A pi hole can block malicious sites (and advertising) and you could just install unbound on that same device for the actual DNS resolution. DHCP let's you designate backup resolvers, so you don't have to lose all internet when your device goes down. Still though, you're right that it is something for more technical users.

[@l0gic23]

@@Andrew-jh2bn not really backups... The fastest response wins... You could argue that local will always resolve faster... Just bringing to your attention how DNS typically works... If a server is listed, it is fair game and the order of your list does not typically matter

[@jeffharwood624]

Privacy isn't privacy you control, Privacy is actually Captured Privacy controlled by others.

[@lolololowbx280]

Does quad9 have a tool to test their dns respond time?

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

You should always test DNS from your location not theirs

[@AbhishekKumar-nt3in]

I am getting 65ms ping with Quad9 DNS. Quad9 DNS requests are going to Singapore server and not to Mumbai(India) server.

[@glynnetolar4423]

Switzerland's privacy laws worked great for the Swiss and WW II. Just sayin'.

[@Ressy66]

@10:12 agreed, DNS "directing/load balancing" should have died in the 90's

[@BMcC78]

Considering the TCP/IP stack and how it works, that's a pretty stupid assumption.

[@Ressy66]

@@BMcC78 wake up, we are talking about using dns to load balance other services like www mail etc, there is a rason nobodys done it since the 90s, but since you likely weren't born then, you got no idea

[@stevenmishos]

I understand the concern about the German lawsuit, but services like Quad9 already have mechanisms to be selective about what they resolve (malware and adult filters, for example). A similar concept exists in the email space where spam lists have been a thing for a long time. This is accepted, and isn't considered censorship by most. I'll have to read their response because perhaps I'm missing something.

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

The big difference is choosing what website you want to block and having it dictated you by private companies based on how they see the world.

[@stevenmishos]

@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS I don't see the difference -- it's just a belief in one category is worthy of blocking, versus another isn't. Nobody wants spam or malware. Companies don't want adult content, but some individuals do. Companies don't want copyrighted content, but many individuals do. Anybody who subscribes to any sort of filtering service has already abdicated their individual choice to a private company. The way I see this playing out is companies like Sony will work with threat protection list providers, and companies like quad9 will enforce the filter list as they already do (basically -- that Sony has a right to protect their content, but they directed their ire at the wrong infrastructure provider).

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

I don't agree with Sony getting to tell Quad9 what to block, sets a very bad legal precidence..

[@stevenmishos]

@@LAWRENCESYSTEMSas stated, I think they directed their ire at the wrong party. At the most fundamental level however, do you agree that Sony has the right to enforce their intellectual property rights? If so, somebody will be on the hook to remedy an infraction and complaint. If not, we simply disagree on that fundamental principle.

[@glynnetolar4423]

@@stevenmishos I find it interesting they specifically attacked Quad9. Looking for one of the biggest providers with the smallest budget. But hey, we're talking about a company (Sony) that has done questionably legal things before (say virus to 'protect their content'). So, this is a company that does screwy things and one shouldn't trust them!

[@laloajuria4678]

cloudflare is 1, quad9 is 2 for us.

[@berndeckenfels]

That interview felt a bit hastily aborted. John should talk to somebody with more in depth dns interests