What does the second derivative actually do in math and physics?

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Quantum Sense

Quantum Sense

Ай бұрын

Happy Quantum Day! :) In this video we discover how we can understand the second derivative geometrically, and we derive a few physical relations using this intuition.
Link to the HQI Blog and their Quantum Shorts Contest: www.hqi-blog.com/contest
Derivation of Laplacian equal to average over sphere in 3D: isis2.cc.oberlin.edu/physics/...
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@quantumsensechannel
@quantumsensechannel Ай бұрын
Hi everyone! A quick note: At 7:55 and onwards, there should be a vector sign over the input of the function: f(vector{x}), since now whenever we are talking about 3 dimensions, the input to the function is a coordinate in 3D space. Apologies for any mild confusion! I remember I used to dislike when my professors would lazily forget to write vector symbols - but years later it seems I have become what I once despised, whoops. Hope you all enjoyed the video! -QuantumSense
@luke2642
@luke2642 Ай бұрын
It's a great video, but perhaps the visual and conceptual leap from 1D, a line plotted on a 2D graph, to a 3D scalar field was slightly glossed over? You covered it with the leap from charge density to scalar field potential but maybe just one more slide and line would have smoothed it over :-)
@user-ky5dy5hl4d
@user-ky5dy5hl4d Ай бұрын
Very nice. I want to say that intuition is one facet one can apply to physics but very tough to apply to mathematics. But your explanation is fantastic where I also thought of many things concerning math intuitively. So, I want to say something about your clip with a point inside of the sphere where you call that point as something tangible. I can hold a sphere in my hands such as a basketball but I can never hold a point because a point has no dimension. So, when I see a point in your video I see a small sphere inside a big sphere which may be very misleading for viewers. A point having no dimension quantitatively is appropriately called x naught because is has no value. So, when you take a limit as dx goes to 0 and once the limit is reached we can only imagine that the limit has been exhausted at point zero qualitatively because at that point there is no dimension. And I have always thought that such points should have a separate notation for something imaginable and not real such as the wave function psi which is not a real wave. So, that's what my intuition tells me about points. Also, in your video you state at 8:58 minute that you showed the 3D case about the second derivative where the first case was in 1D. No, the first case is in 2D because you operate as x and f(x) which means you show a function in 2D displayed on x and y axes.
@raajnivas2550
@raajnivas2550 Ай бұрын
​@@user-ky5dy5hl4dAgree with you. If I may suggest: Intuition is a guide to imagination of how the reality exists. Imagination is each person's view, and when we all concur using the precision of mathematics, then we are realigning our imagination to reality with precision. And when we accept internally this as TRUE, it becomes our intuitive perception, and an almost perfected view of reality. Then we take another step forward. It is why mathematics is precise, but Intuition is still learning based on existing knowledge.
@user-ky5dy5hl4d
@user-ky5dy5hl4d 29 күн бұрын
@@raajnivas2550 Intuition + logic. Agree?
@NewCalculus
@NewCalculus 26 күн бұрын
@@user-ky5dy5hl4d Intuition is what idiots use. Look up that word!
@charlie_0823
@charlie_0823 Ай бұрын
I never understood why there was all this talk in my classes about the second derivative/laplacian being related to an average value, but no actual calculation/explanation was ever provided. Thank you so much for doing god’s work! 🙏
@jaw0449
@jaw0449 29 күн бұрын
You did an entire physics degree without being shown? Not even in QM? Huh
@NormanWasHere452
@NormanWasHere452 12 күн бұрын
@@jaw0449 I'm in the same boat actually
@jaw0449
@jaw0449 12 күн бұрын
@@NormanWasHere452 you should go to your profs and and ask for derivations, then. That, or they’re expecting you to do the derivations on your own. No physics program should ever just give formulas (unless freshman courses)
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@arunsevakule
@arunsevakule 27 күн бұрын
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@jacoblampmatthiessen9862
@jacoblampmatthiessen9862 Ай бұрын
Thank you! For this very clear and intuitive explanation. This view really helps seeing the very deep philosophical connection to notions and axioms of locality in mathematical models. And it also makes the connections between wave equations and continuity equations very intuitive! ❤
@Danielle-ew1el
@Danielle-ew1el 26 күн бұрын
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@sarveshpadav2881
@sarveshpadav2881 Ай бұрын
The video content was quite insightful! Thanks for the upload. I hope you'll continue to do so in the future.
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@MrFtriana
@MrFtriana Ай бұрын
Great! The Schrödinger equation is postulated in many texts and one form to derivate it is using the path integral formalism, but you give a good argument about why it have the form that we know.
@viktorvegh7842
@viktorvegh7842 Ай бұрын
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@NormanWasHere452
@NormanWasHere452 11 күн бұрын
This is such a great video, can't believe I've never looked at the second derivative like this. I'll definitely go and watch your series on quantum!
@gengormacsgo3647
@gengormacsgo3647 Ай бұрын
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@ajejebrazor4936
@ajejebrazor4936 Ай бұрын
Thank you! What a great video! Multiple insights and new visualisations.
@constilad006
@constilad006 Ай бұрын
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@TheYoutubeFreak
@TheYoutubeFreak 29 күн бұрын
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@prathameshpatil0810
@prathameshpatil0810 5 күн бұрын
Great Video! Appreciate the effort you take in explaining all these things to enthusiasts! Must have been a lot of effort in the editing as well, Could you please tell me which tool/platform do you use to edit videos like these with equations and numbers flowing around the screen? I would love to create something similar very soon!
@blisard2648
@blisard2648 19 күн бұрын
mate youve killed this video! Such a complex idea explained so concisely
@LucasVieira-ob6fx
@LucasVieira-ob6fx Ай бұрын
I've already read about how Laplacian can be interpreted as the difference between a point and the average of its vicinity, but your visuals nicely complement that picture. Nice work!
@erikhicks6184
@erikhicks6184 13 күн бұрын
I think that's true if all second derivatives. After all, that's all a laplacian is. If I remember correctly, with scalars there is only one meaningful second derivative, but for vectors, 3 can be formed by permitting curl, div, and grad.
@imPyroHD
@imPyroHD Ай бұрын
Fantastic upload, maybe a series on second quantization in the future like your first one on QM?
@algorithminc.8850
@algorithminc.8850 4 күн бұрын
Nice coverage of topic. Thanks. Subscribed. Cheers
@shivamvalecha21
@shivamvalecha21 Ай бұрын
Great work man :) don't stop to make videos its really helpful !!
@slixeee
@slixeee Ай бұрын
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@logician1234
@logician1234 Ай бұрын
Excelent video, it really gave me a new perspective on the second derivative. I wonder why the third, and other higher order derivatives are so rare in physics compared to the first and second...
@RezaJavadzadeh
@RezaJavadzadeh 29 күн бұрын
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@pluton_7139
@pluton_7139 Ай бұрын
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@MathPro0
@MathPro0 Ай бұрын
Nice bro , that was actually great (also inspired me to create a video on some qm topic ) Thanks bro Keep making these type of videos
@rudypieplenbosch6752
@rudypieplenbosch6752 26 күн бұрын
Never heard this way of thinking about the 2nd derivative, provides great insigt, thank you.
@varunahlawat169
@varunahlawat169 Ай бұрын
Bro what have you made! Beautiful!
@nDreaw12
@nDreaw12 Ай бұрын
Nice Video as always!
@JUNGELMAN2012
@JUNGELMAN2012 Ай бұрын
I feel so proud of being able to follow your lecture!
@mzg147
@mzg147 7 күн бұрын
Loved the video! You are really an amazing presenter. One thing that I *will* bite the bullet for is calling Laplacian *the real* second derivative in 3 dimensions. The full second derivative is really a bilinear form, also represented as the 3x3 matrix (hessian) of all possible second order partial derivatives, which the laplacian is just the trace of. There are other second order differential operators that you could get from it.
@TheFireBrozTFB
@TheFireBrozTFB Ай бұрын
As a physics major, you are carrying my ass through QM and modern physics. Cheers! You’re amazing!!
@MikeT10101
@MikeT10101 Ай бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you!
@lofturbjarni9274
@lofturbjarni9274 Ай бұрын
Glad you're back.
@darshildhameliya3619
@darshildhameliya3619 10 сағат бұрын
Can you make a series of videos on various interpretations of QM? I have read the Helgoland and I love how Carlo has described the relational interpretation, would love understand the intuitions behind other interpretations!
@SethTheOrigin
@SethTheOrigin 16 күн бұрын
This is an great video. I have a BSc in Mathematics, and I never knew about this
@paulodallacosta1062
@paulodallacosta1062 Ай бұрын
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@rachidbz01
@rachidbz01 Ай бұрын
We missed u bro !! Welcome back
@piyushkaushik4154
@piyushkaushik4154 3 күн бұрын
Bro . Although this is a channel for quantum maths but pls do cover such micro but nuanced and important topics of math as well . Like topics of calculus - I think concept of limits and meaning of it's formulas is part of an abstract section of mathematics (at earlier levels of maths ofcourse. otherwise higher theoretical maths is nothing but abstract). Take up other such concepts from calculus , complex numbers like topics . Great video ofcourse. Subscribed ur channel . Cheers. 🎉🎉
@larianton1008
@larianton1008 Ай бұрын
wow, what, an upload? big fan
@eamonnsiocain6454
@eamonnsiocain6454 Ай бұрын
Excellent! Thank you.
@parkerstroh6586
@parkerstroh6586 Ай бұрын
1 minute in and I’ve already liked and subbed!
@raajnivas2550
@raajnivas2550 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the simplified version of seeing QP
@frankmanismyname1147
@frankmanismyname1147 Ай бұрын
No way. I actually understood everything. Thank you man
@TurinBeats
@TurinBeats 23 күн бұрын
Honestly I hate math, mostly because I was forced to cram formulas to pass exams. But this video opened my eyes to the practicality of it, now I love math a little bit more. So thank you, currently binge watching your playlist on Math for QT.
@erikhicks6184
@erikhicks6184 13 күн бұрын
You were forced?
@tanvirhossainfahim7025
@tanvirhossainfahim7025 Ай бұрын
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@lolmanthecat Ай бұрын
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@_cyantist Ай бұрын
10 mins ago? welcome back!
@hetmanfoko
@hetmanfoko Ай бұрын
That's what I least expected. Thank you.
@ominollo
@ominollo Ай бұрын
Interesting take 🙂 The video from Feynman, which one is it? Or what was his lecture about?
@gamedevrony158
@gamedevrony158 Ай бұрын
Love to see you using manim
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@user-vq3lk Ай бұрын
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@elementare.
@elementare. Ай бұрын
Finally you came back :)
@Raphoo-doodles
@Raphoo-doodles Ай бұрын
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@paulaborges7726
@paulaborges7726 Ай бұрын
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@ayush77647
@ayush77647 29 күн бұрын
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@skippdiddly1409
@skippdiddly1409 11 күн бұрын
Wow. I'm not so good with math yet this is insightful. Kudos
@kimchi_taco
@kimchi_taco Ай бұрын
The heat equation is twice differentiated in space and once differentiated in time because it accurately captures the dynamics of averaging over spacetime. Twice differentiating in space can be intuitively explained by Feynman's ball average approach. The rate of change towards the average is represented by the Laplacian. I believe that the single differentiation in time is due to the fact that heat changes are only affected by the past. Since the present is not affected by the future, only the rate of change in one direction is considered in time, resulting in a single differentiation.
@larrywildman4381
@larrywildman4381 27 күн бұрын
Look at "a treatise on electricity and magnetism" by Maxwell, vol I, pag 29 .... not Feynman's approach. It was well known before Feynman.
@shuvro6358
@shuvro6358 Ай бұрын
As a 15 year old.All of this looks so cool!
@MsTrueEnigma_
@MsTrueEnigma_ Ай бұрын
Welcome back!
@zaccandels6695
@zaccandels6695 Ай бұрын
Excellent video
@alexgoldhaber1786
@alexgoldhaber1786 Ай бұрын
A beautiful lesson indeed.
@foobar-xh5gs
@foobar-xh5gs Ай бұрын
I can't grasp the physics part coz lack of relating knowledge, but the second derivative part really amazed me, didn't think about how it related with average.
@Downlead
@Downlead Ай бұрын
Wow, a new video after 9 months. I miss you Bro..
@COLATO_com_br
@COLATO_com_br 2 күн бұрын
well done !
@JonnyMath
@JonnyMath Ай бұрын
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@mohammadsajadyazdanbakhshi7388
@mohammadsajadyazdanbakhshi7388 24 күн бұрын
I like it so much and it's very good.
@asifalamgir5135
@asifalamgir5135 Ай бұрын
Our Quantum Sensei is here!!!
@shortmoviemedia7068
@shortmoviemedia7068 Ай бұрын
You are changing the world ♾️
@baptiste5216
@baptiste5216 Ай бұрын
great video !
@mn-lc7em
@mn-lc7em 6 күн бұрын
Ancient greeks have used intuition and reasons If you know space ecuation, the first der is speed and second is acceleration. So second der is the dynamic of the function. Your demionstration is excelent model. Cong.
@AllemandInstable
@AllemandInstable Ай бұрын
no way ! was waiting for it
@kuldeepparashar7266
@kuldeepparashar7266 Ай бұрын
Super information thanks sir
@fuffalump
@fuffalump 22 күн бұрын
Nice idea about the average on the ball! But must correct the misleading idea in the QM part - localized particles in position is equivalent to large uncertainty in conjugate (momentum) space, like you said. But this does not translate to necessarily large kinetic energy. The equivalence principle is for the mean of the distribution, and this would be the "classical" kinetic energy of the particle, which does not change due to variance. This explanation was a stretch, but you could explain this exactly with the diffusion equation, which the Schrodinger equation is just a specific case of :)
@bobross9332
@bobross9332 13 күн бұрын
I think that Feynmann was talking about the Cauchy integral theorem. He stated he didn't need to know the center value just the value on the exterior ball.. that is exactly the Cauchy integral theorem -- you average the surface of the ball and you have the center value
@sp0_od597
@sp0_od597 Ай бұрын
4:35 I always thought that arround = indout. Perhaps they are equal
@nikospitr
@nikospitr Ай бұрын
very cool. Thanx !
@apolloandartemis4605
@apolloandartemis4605 Ай бұрын
We missed you!
@mr.thermistr9903
@mr.thermistr9903 Ай бұрын
He is back!!!!!! 🔥
@EagerLearner23
@EagerLearner23 25 күн бұрын
This reminds me if my Numerical Analysis class in undergrad...good times!
@Primarch-Arlian
@Primarch-Arlian Ай бұрын
I now know what happens when I 《f》around and find out. Thank you!
@whatitmeans
@whatitmeans Ай бұрын
nice video: I think the big question for a folowing video is this one: How this "averaging" intuition of the 2nd derivative is related to the "aceleration" intuition of the 2nd derivative when time is the studied variable?
@khiemgom
@khiemgom Ай бұрын
FINALLY HES BACK
@wirelessboogie
@wirelessboogie Ай бұрын
Thanks for the great explanation! You won't get any further in maths if you don't have an intuition for its laws and theoremes, which makes your video especially useful. Shame most manuals in maths don't have this policy being overly formulaic at the cost of intuition. P.S. I'm only slightly confused by you wishing us a quantum day, a superposition of which two states is it supposed to be? haha!
@DeJay7
@DeJay7 Ай бұрын
Ah, another Feynman enthusiast, I see! Really, he was just an incredible person, every person who ever had the chance to be taught by him was blessed. And, of course, great video, and very much needed for a lot of people who passionately care about these things.
@mitchellhayman381
@mitchellhayman381 29 күн бұрын
Most physicists admire Feynman second to only Newton himself. He represents the joyful genius and the spirit of scientific curiosity
@larrywildman4381
@larrywildman4381 27 күн бұрын
As I said in another comment, I saw the same concept in "a treatise on electricity and magnetism" by Maxwell, vol I, pag 29 .... so, I don't think was a feynman's idea.
@emilioarguello9786
@emilioarguello9786 Ай бұрын
super interesting video
@Damn-Age
@Damn-Age Ай бұрын
Welcome back, on world quantum day!
@guilhermeviana6089
@guilhermeviana6089 Ай бұрын
hey, could you tell me what app you use to make these great videos? thx.
@adarshprakash7649
@adarshprakash7649 23 күн бұрын
U got a sub with this one...
@5ty717
@5ty717 Ай бұрын
Excellent
@supernovap.c.-jk
@supernovap.c.-jk 5 күн бұрын
O my Allah,,,what an explanation! Thank you brother for your hard work. the people who represents physics in a meaningful way, i respect. May Allah grant you.
@jyothinath9820
@jyothinath9820 15 сағат бұрын
6:36 this is what we were taught to find the maximum or minimum value of a function
@makekj502
@makekj502 Күн бұрын
Damn this was a great video
@tincantank5174
@tincantank5174 Ай бұрын
I truly wish I knew what he was talking about. We only got up to IROC in high school, so he’s describing a topic that i haven’t even been introduced to.
@meaningfulmind
@meaningfulmind 27 күн бұрын
Even for heat equation, this is the most intuitive tool I've ever used to understand the temperature distribution. What a great explanation. I was wondering how you could understand the Newton's second law using this though.
@kadabrium
@kadabrium 6 күн бұрын
if the distance an object has travelled in the past dt is less than the distance it will travel in the next dt, it means the object is acccelerating
@bronzeplayer3930
@bronzeplayer3930 Ай бұрын
Got a 2/10 on my second QM problem set. Ended with a 100% on the final and just pulled a 100 on a QM2 midterm! Would love more advanced quantum, but you gave me such a good basis :D
@bjornragnarsson8692
@bjornragnarsson8692 Ай бұрын
The next step is second quantization - redefining the non-relativistic fixed particle mode to a framework capable of analyzing relativistic many body systems in which the number of particles in a system are no longer fixed. There are quite a few approaches to this, the most common and most utilized framework being quantum field theories appropriate for the different types of fundamental interactions and particle properties. Extending to the Fock space - the Hilbert space completion of the symmetric and antisymmetric tensors in the tensor powers of a single particle Hilbert space is standard to incorporate creation and annihilation operators of quantum states that change the eigenvalues of the number operator by one, analogous to the quantum harmonic oscillator. Something that becomes more important in QFTs. You may have already been introduced to some of the fundamental aspects of this approach, as the natural extension beyond a Junior/Senior undergraduate QM course is the introduction of different QFTs, with particular emphasis on QED.
@klam77
@klam77 28 күн бұрын
Wicked insight! From feynman!
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