Queen Juana the Mad of Castile

[@MariaJoseRangelUwU]

She wasn’t mad, she was abused. Is like when men say their ex is crazy but they were the ones that were abusive and their gf just acted in response.

[@LynnEsq]

Agree

[@SirenUniverse381]

Exactly.😊

[@IronicallySell]

same in reverse, which is why men couldn't get help it is not to undermine of female victims, just adding to them because it isn't always the case especially today Abusive women exists, but for Joanna of Castile, I honestly sympathize with her. She deserved better, I understand why she acted the way she did. I hope she is in peace at the afterlife.

[@JoeDirtisawsome]

"She wasn’t mad, she was abused." these things arent mutually exclusive.

[@muirannmooney6161]

exactly thank you

[@sarabeth6701d]

Sounds like she didn't start out "mad"..she was tortured, gaslighted, and forcefully isolated until she ended up that way :(

[@annepollock8306]

Sarabeth6701d. You're right. Poor lady.

[@nmv33]

You forgot ghosted.

[@truthh8597]

sounds like my story

[@hermionedelano1773]

She was never tprtured. She is my ancestress.

[@BeckBeckGo]

@@hermionedelano1773 I don’t know, I’d say her mother at least did a good number on her.

[@juliakovacs4885]

When a Portugese king digs up the corpse of his girlfriend to marry her, it's a romantic story. When a queen mourns over her husband's corpse she's clearly craaaaazy

[@emilybarclay8831]

I mean they’re both crazy, but the whole thing with Ines and Peter is that they never really got to be together officially and she was murdered horrifically by Peter’s father and never got the recognition Peter felt she deserved as queen. He’s still crazy for digging her up and parading her around, but their story was different albeit just as tragic as Juana and Philip

[@ceciliabenevidescrespi7216]

hate to be *that* person, but if you are referring to the story of Peter I and Inês de Castro, he was the king of Portugal

[@lindamaemullins5151]

Yep

[@fools4jules]

@@ceciliabenevidescrespi7216 oop--

[@jamiemohan2049]

Probably because Ines an Peter's love was mutual.

[@lemonsquire5993]

The fact that she is considered crazy and Henry VIII isn’t, tells me everything I need to know about women’s narratives vs men’s.

[@makaelaischillin]

Henry VIII is seen as insane and a tyrant? He had a head injury but still.

[@lemonsquire5993]

@@makaelaischillin very true about the head injury but watch any documentary about him and they don’t narrate his story as though he’s insane- maybe hot tempered.

[@makaelaischillin]

Lemon Squire Yes you are right. Many people do not see him as insane if they don’t know the history.

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

England is a different country with a different culture tho. I can only think of two British monarchs that are considered mad, one centuries before Juana and one centuries after

[@rosycandyhaven]

No they just consider him to be evil and a murderer of not just a couple of his wives but his so called friends and advisors. He massacred a great number of monks and destroyed their monasteries.

[@autrosa18]

She was madly in love, used and betrayed by 2 men she trusted most. In 10 years she had 6 children, lost her brother, sister, nephew, mother and her husband all by the age of 25. Tough.

[@ThomasL58]

Welcome to the 15:th century. Juana was exceptionally fortunate in that none of her six children died at infancy, and only one (Elisabeth of Denmark and Sweden) died before Juana herself at 75.

[@psychadelicpotato8580]

@@ThomasL58 that was a long life without any meaning or affection

[@ladysarcasm6226]

Only to spend the last 30 years in isolation. Husband, father and son only visited her to abdicate her rights. I doubt she even cared by then...

[@mermer3168]

The "tough" part was to live until the age of 75 in those horrible times. Those last 40 years of torment and isolation was just too cruel.

[@di3486]

He was a narc and she was borderline. Very obvious.

[@dania8540]

The three most important men in a woman’s life and she was betrayed by all three. So very sad.

[@truthh8597]

I think she was setup for abuse like that! She never knew what good people are like so tolerated bad ones till it drove her crazy

[@shanaguilar8352]

Holy crap, you're right! That is so sad😨

[@jamellfoster6029]

True. A child betraying a parent is the worst though. That would break my heart if one of my kids betrayed me... A spouse I wouldn't be so surprised as spouses (especially in this day) betray each other frequently...

[@purple_rxin]

Unfortunately most royal parents were like that. They set their kids up for political marriages even at young ages not even caring about their happiness or worries. Only for their political power or alliances. The royal children were pawns in the works of monarchy

[@widjiro]

betrayed by father, father-in-law, husband, and son

[@durusan4839]

when a man stabs his wife's lover it is so fair and made out of a righteous anger and understood by the society ,on the contrary when a woman stabs his husband's mistress she is called MAD !

[@shiararuiz5171]

Yeah the hypocrisy

[@LittleLazyKitty]

Queen Mary of Scott’s second husband stabbed a man to death right in front of her because he was jealous of him. Of course nobody thinks that’s crazy, he just had an attitude and was a bit aggressive, you know, boys being boys.

[@durusan4839]

@@LittleLazyKitty Right:))

[@lagatita1623]

I mean she should have stabbed him...

[@durusan4839]

​@@lagatita1623 No women always take it out on mistresses :)

[@garuspiks]

I'm starting to think people called him phillip "the handsome" ironically

[@jamellfoster6029]

Ok... Because he wasn't handsome with that pointy Habsburg chin... Joanna was actually pretty but Philip wasn't handsome...

[@jamiemohan2049]

It makes me laugh. Like they are trolling. God for give me but he looks like one of the hills have eyes !

[@angela7014]

😂😂😂 True

[@peachypineapples502]

I thought the same thing 😂 but I think calling a member of your royal family ugly is a good way to get executed.

[@Ikajo]

Beauty standards change... things that are considered beautiful now wasn't considered beautiful then.

[@rileykinder1381]

This woman was abused and traumatised. No wonder she developed mental illness, she could have even developed something like CPTSD or BPD. I feel so sorry for her and somewhat thankful I live in a time where mental illness isn’t treated that way.

[@themage1114]

@Quester Jester Juana wasn't a product of incest. Her children and their paternal side started it all

[@bridgetking4553]

Yeah bpd sounds about right. I have both of those, I always admired Juana. She wasn’t crazy, she went through hell and reacted to it and was impacted

[@jd4632]

...or is it?

[@fenrisulven5324]

Most people of that era were abused and traumatized.

[@fenrisulven5324]

You go girl! Always the victim...

[@ashleyrocke4144]

Nothing she did seems to say she’s insane. She was such a passionate and loving person. Her only fault was loving too much

[@lone-welf]

wow this hit home.

[@justlooking1299]

The love potions seems a little crazy for me 🤨

[@ashleyrocke4144]

@@justlooking1299 that's because you understand modern science. this was when people barely knew that germs existed

[@coronavirusokboomer9537]

So stabbing somebody isn’t crazy?

[@lisacav6916]

She probably had what we call bi-polar.

[@theproplady]

Dang. None of the women in that family had any luck in marriage. And people wonder why Elizabeth I didn't want any part of matrimony...

[@claram5482]

I've often fantasised about a show called The Trastamara Sisters. Each episode would be about the three sisters Joan, Katharine, and Mary, meeting and discussing their love life: first before marriage, then during the honeymoon phase, then during the crumbling of their marriages. Of course Mary would be the pov character as her marriage wasn't that bad

[@menchualcarazmoreno1743]

@@claram5482 Mary would be the worst xharacter for us as she was obsessed by religion.

[@claram5482]

@@menchualcarazmoreno1743 Is t hat so? There aren't a lot of sources that tell us about her afaik. Why do you say that?

[@TiaReshade]

@@claram5482 Where did you find such a show?

[@claram5482]

@@TiaReshade what do you mean? As I said it's a fantasy of mine

[@Theogenerang]

'She lived with her husbands corpse'. I know women who will say the same thing about their marriages even though the husband is alive and well and golfing.

[@katesims2346]

Or what ever his current craze is.

[@kyliecrybaby4161]

Is the golfing thing about Trump 💀

[@AnnaGirardini]

I love the "alive and golfing" :D

[@OpheliaNL]

Alive and golfing? You mean alive and gaming. lmao

[@L0rdOfThePies]

Alive, well and golfing? Those two words dont go with that last one lmao

[@MrsLanna]

45 years of solitude.... Let that sink in people.....

[@robertwaguespack9414]

Stabbing her husband's mistress is not a sign of insanity. Her husband's having an affair and expecting his wife to go along with it is a sign of his own insanity.

[@fuckoffgoogle1657]

I’m not going to say it was “right” but be realistic and understand that 2021 was not anything ANYTHING like that of these times and your mindset would be the weird one in their time.

[@janicea135]

No no hes got a point

[@alygurl1635]

It's fascinating how often in history men in power smear a woman in power, but never the other way around. Almost to the point of being cliché.

[@fruitygarlic3601]

Any time a female ruler is half competent or interesting, there is a rumour after her death about her being a zoophile, an imposter, or whatever else. It's like clockwork.

[@est9949]

Catherine the great's horse rumor was a great example. Those gossipy guys were jealous of successful woman.

[@myriamickx7969]

Alyson, it's not "almost a cliché", it IS a cliché. And it remains so to this day in the corporate world for instance.

[@truthh8597]

Yikes truth pills

[@sol.azulalado]

It's a little pathetic actually... Vergüenza ajena

[@ombrenightcores]

It’s so odd to think of a time the sentence “his grandfather’s 29 year old widow,” wasn’t an out of the ordinary sentence

[@TheOnlyElle.]

Poor Jauna, Her treatment in life was enough to magnify the slightest mental health issue. Her own Father, Mother and Husband, tortured and abused Her, then used Her for Her power. This alone is enough to break the strongest mind. This was the True, real life experiences of historical Princesses. They were used as "baby machines"..just in gilded cages with jewels and pretty dresses..but, if they complained?? It was off to a Nunnery for them.. or worse!

[@celiamoccia8705]

the fact that she is considered crazy makes me sad. she was used and manipulated by her own father, son, and husband. i’m so sad for this poor woman. she deserved better

[@lalakuma9]

"Philip the Handsome" *puts glasses on* I can't see it

[@thebooknitter]

it is a spanish pun.... precisely Xd

[@Amphitera]

well, if you know what all the other royals, esp Habsburgs, looked like, it begins to make sense? xD same today, anyone not totally horrifically ugly marrying into a royal family is enthused over how pretty he/she is, meanwhile the actual royals look like lizards wearing shoddily made facemasks.

[@lagatita1623]

@@Amphitera kinda like Kate

[@jasperhorace7147]

@@thebooknitter he had that name long before he went to Spain. I think it may have been in contrast with his father, who did have the Habsburg jaw.

[@jasperhorace7147]

@@Amphitera But their children are always described as gorgeous, beautiful or some other sycophantic words. Just look at Prince George and Princess Charlotte!

[@penguinz3438]

What’s most heartbreaking is that they took their daughter from her. The only person who seemed to actually care about her was taken from her.

[@danusdragonfly6640]

If she was mad ~ her family made her that way!

[@Ikajo]

Solitary confinement can cause severe mental health issues

[@OstblockLatina]

Even a stone would go crazy, if it was subjected to everything she went through, and all of it coming from people who were her family. If anyone was really crazy in that whole affair, it was her mother, husband and co. who acted like a bunch of utter narcissists, sadists and psychopaths. Perhaps Juana shouldn't have used those scissors on her husband's lover though, the woman was probably not in a position to freely reject him. She should've used them on him, but poor girl was too blindly in love with him even though he didn't deserve to be loved.

[@TheDragiix3]

As terrible as a cheating spouse is, I feel like a lot of both men and women out there need to understand, it's not said mistress that is hurting them, it's the spouses. They are the ones committing the betrayal and they are responsible for their own action.

[@lagatita1623]

Agree

[@_srvm9]

I find it so messed up and ironic when mistresses end up having the sons instead of the wife

[@Sawrattan]

Same with her poor sister Catherine of Aragon, which messed up the even more tragic Mary I of England.

[@est9949]

Oh the patriarchy

[@JoeDirtisawsome]

i think its messed up that monarchies are even a thing

[@alleducation1982]

I think in the situations where there is so much inbreeding, it may have something to do with the fact the the mistresses were most likely not their relatives; cousins, sisters, etc...

[@clairefordzetterstrom9973]

@@Sawrattan true😔💔

[@madelcyfuentes6709]

Abusive mother, abusive father, abusive husband... no wonder she went "mad". Pobre Juana :( La cuerda sounds so painful, I feel so much for her...........

[@magnusvir117]

Infact she wasn't Cuerda so they sent her to the Cuerda. :) 🥺

[@theelitemanticore151]

And her son also betrayed her…🙃

[@alyssawilhoite9551]

I will maintain until my dying day that she was manipulated and her perspective was erased from history on purpose. I first learned about Juana 3 years ago (American education system hello!) through a fictional account of her life. ever since I was obsessed, I felt deep connection to her immediately. The next year I was on a study abroad in Spain and on the excursion to Granada where else do I unexpectedly find myself but at her tomb. It was like destiny!

[@Moonewitch]

💯💯💯💯

[@princesse0920]

It’s awful how the people around her, men and women, used a impressionable young girl for power and abandoned her in the end. I don’t blame Juana for going insane. I’d go insane after a while if everyone in my life treated me like that! Rip Juana ❤️

[@leanette979]

I feel so bad for her. She was taken advantage by men all her life for their own game. 😭

[@Aishetu_Musa]

💔

[@JoeDirtisawsome]

not just men. her mom treated her like crap too

[@leanette979]

@@JoeDirtisawsome yea it was sad

[@Lauren.E.O]

I wonder what it would have been like if Juana had taken Catherine back to Spain with her instead of leaving her in England. The king wouldn’t have been happy, but Catherine was technically unmarried at the time.

[@vilwarin5635]

I don´t think Catalina was allowed to leave. Her dowry wasn´t paid by Fernando, and Henry VII wanted that money so bad. She was an hostage of England

[@Sawrattan]

@@vilwarin5635 also Henry VII considered marrying Catherine himself.

[@jagatdave]

@@vilwarin5635 Fernando had money...just that he was adamant

[@paigeycakey5061]

Something with royals calling people insane when not following their preferred protocol. Makes me think of Diana.

[@mayahdenman9401]

I was thinking the same thing

[@dromie5059]

What happened with Diana?

[@BeetlejuiceBeetlejuiceJr]

@@dromie5059 idk I just heard that her life was crappy

[@L0rdOfThePies]

@@dromie5059 i know diana was more open to the public and children especially, thus opens the whole for conspiracies apparently

[@laurielovett8849]

Dianna was the deceptive one. She managed to turn people against King Charles for returning to his one true live Camilla,when she by her own admittance had already started an affair with her married bodyguard, she then went on to have numerous affairs some with married men, and worse still,kept making late night abusive phone calls to one of her lovers wives Mrs Gilbey when calls answered would spout abuse or slam the phone down almost 300 calls in one day. Calks were traced to Dianbas phone, she was to be charged but the Queen interceded on her behalf, so its easily seen where Harry gets his mind set from.

[@Pisces-1978]

So glad I watched this. Everything I've ever seen on "Juana the Mad" never explained her life. She wasn't "mad"! She definitely had PTSD, probably depression/anxiety. Who wouldn't of?! Her own mother tortured her. As far as I know defiance isn't a mental illness. To the men in her life sure it was tho! That's where these "stories" came from. Men who wanted her power. And when we hear "she lived with her dead husband" sure she sounds a lil batty. But that's not even what happened! She went with his body on a week's travel to bury him. She was mourning. Pretty sure I would've went on that sad trip myself. Whole new opinion of Juana of Castille now. Great bio, ty!!

[@pocketsizeforyourtravelcon3325]

I love Spanish history. My favorite Spanish monarch is Charles II of Spain - “El Hechizado” (the bewitched/hexed). He was so inbred that he had a lot of physical and mental disabilities and he died without an heir so it sent Spain into war.

[@GloriaFlores-to3cj]

I can’t believe that Charles lived as long as he did.

[@vilwarin5635]

@@GloriaFlores-to3cj Is more impressive if you read the treatments his doctors tried with him... drinking olive oil, taking his blood, eating pure garbage... is like they wanted him dead. That man was strong as an ox

[@charlesiiofspain3303]

Jajajajaa! Me king of SPAIN!! *drools*

[@L0rdOfThePies]

@@charlesiiofspain3303 your 2 hours out of bed are up king, get back in bed lmao

[@charlesiiofspain3303]

@@L0rdOfThePies kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3nYaImdf9KimqM

[@Bleepbloppp]

Honestly she might’ve been a good queen but she was locked up and rumors were spread about her ruining her reputation. If her mother had believed she was mad why did she leave her as her heir?

[@truthh8597]

Classic smear campaign

[@a.person4761]

I got this notification while reading a book about Catherine of Aragon and she was talking about her sister Juana!

[@candisbrown1275]

Waer did you buy the book a out catherine of aragon

[@a.person4761]

@@candisbrown1275 I’m reading Catherine of Aragon: The True Queen by Alison Weir. I just picked it up from my local library.

[@AmyHoldaway27]

@@a.person4761 oooohh, I wanna read it cx

[@AmyHoldaway27]

@@a.person4761 Oooohhh, it’s a historical fiction book series! And my library has it online 😄 giiiirlll (idk if you are but)…. Imma read it!! Tysm!!

[@reginastoltz3629]

@@a.person4761 I just finished that book and on the one about Anne Boleyn. Ms Weir is AWESOME. I'm glad that I am not the only one to discover her.

[@Lauren.E.O]

The Queen actually had her daughter tortured? I didn’t like her before, and I like her even less now.

[@perikoala86]

You should read about Isabel la Catolica. She wasn't the demon a lot of people think.

[@miguelrafael9247]

@@perikoala86 Yeah, the part of her torturing her daughter is inaccurate. It's also in The Spanish Princess TV show.

[@perikoala86]

@@miguelrafael9247 I haven't watched it but I've read about how inaccurate and full of stereotypes that show is. Its not even historically factual so I'm surprised people believe in these lies.

[@vilwarin5635]

I read it was Fernando who ordered it, not the Queen

[@gf3011]

No. She did not.

[@Laramaria2]

I feel so bad for her.... I don't think she was mad, I think she needed help 😞

[@jamiemohan2049]

I don't think she was insane per say. But she was definitely delusional when it came to Philip. All of Isabella's children had intense feelings of and devotion for their spouses.

[@AmyHoldaway27]

I think Isabella herself did too.

[@HelenWA]

@@AmyHoldaway27 nothing but pick-me vibes from these medieval women...

[@jamiemohan2049]

@@HelenWA 😂😂🤣🤣

[@lucindabunda2106]

Per se.

[@lucindabunda2106]

Then you don't understand the Sacrament of Marriage???

[@Duszka]

Relatives that exaggerated mental instability for their own benefit so basically gas lighted her. Yeah I'd believe it. The mom thought it was okay to suspend her daughter and torture her over spiritual bs but the victim of that torture is the one called unstable? Yep I'd believe it.

[@emilyrandall867]

I've always felt sorry for Juana, tortured by her mother for not believing in her faith, her husband cheated on her constantly, her life was so tragic no wonder she went 'mad' I think I would as well if I were her poor girl screams out to be helped inside but Is tortured and lied to and plotted against instead by those that should have cared for her

[@kiskeyaart923]

Thank you for this ,we don't have enough documentaries about her

[@Aishetu_Musa]

Post traumatic stress disorder 💔

[@jessi5872]

I'd go pretty insane if you locked me up in solitary confinement for a few decades.

[@winfredstacy5843]

I have read a ton of material about Jauna. I have deduced that Jauna was terribly wronged by her parents and husband. There is documentation that Jauna's behavior surrounding Phillips death is greatly overblown. As a woman, whether Queen Regnant or not she was manipulated and undermined in a world controlled by men. Possibly bipolar, etc but, her circumstances left scars. Torture an abusive and philandering husband. As you know, royal children were bargaining tools and assets rather than loved children. I see her as a victim.

[@mariacristianacristache2306]

Please never stop making KZbin videos about history, I love your channel so much!!

[@AuthorLHollingsworth]

She was very depressed by trying to keep an adulterous husband. That woman did not deserve to be thrown away in some prison. Terrible children!!!😡😡😡Both her, and Queen Katherine married two unloving men. Bless her heart!!!

[@jasperhorace7147]

At the time, I’m sure their treatment wasn’t seen as either cruel or unusual. After all they were merely women. Even low class men saw women as chattels with no rights.

[@thedevilsadvocate858]

Charles was _very_ close to his aunt Catherine of Aragon. And he considered her more as a mother figure than Juana

[@alonelybisexual327]

Perhaps...

[@gloriamartin4343]

Carlos, hijo de Juana vivio toda su infancia en los paises bajos junto a su familia Hasburgo. El fue educado por su tia Margarita Hasburgo, hermana de Felipe el Hermoso. Carlos quiso a su tia Margarita como si fuese su madre. De Catalina de Aragon nada. Si, era su tia pero no tuvo trato con ella.

[@ThomasL58]

As Gloria Martin said, he was close to his paternal aunt Margaret of Austria.

[@visenyatargaryen9130]

Wrong person. Charles was raised by his other aunt, Margaret of Burgundy. She was his mother figure. Not Catherine. In fact, Charles hardly saw Catherine.

[@thenablade858]

Charles V had met Catherine while on a trip to England (and had been bethrothed to her six year old daughter, Mary) but he was closest to Margaret of Austria. Not Catherine. Margaret was in charge of the Habsburg Netherlands, and was a close patron of Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa and Erasmus.

[@amandaredd3057]

So sad. Poor Juana. She was tough as nails though!

[@ninamorales7815]

Absolutely horrible how they treated her

[@BoomerGirlInaGenZWorld]

She was worried that a woman would fall for her husband’s corpse?!😳. Juana was a bit short of center.

[@melenatorr]

Many, many details about Juana's dealing with her husband's death and coffin need to be taken with a few grains of salt.

[@ieatgremlins]

I mean, in all fairness, we haven’t seen the corpse so ... 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@--enyo--]

@@melenatorr One theory I heard was that it was to show people her children were legitimate.

[@melenatorr]

@@--enyo-- Oh, that's interesting; but my instinct is to go to the idea that if any woman would least be expected to be unfaithful to her husband it would be Juana.

[@0121-x2j]

She was a whole fruit loop.

[@mikeyweaselwhipper3074]

stabbing her husband's lover and living w/her husband's corpse are the two things that made me like queen juana. she wasn't mad, just very passionate.

[@daydream1066]

I felt my heart break for this queen and wanted nothing more to give this poor woman a hug.

[@bysscanna]

hearing this story makes me so sad. imagine what she could’ve been if she hasn’t been manipulated and emotionally abused all her life

[@m7dasplatoon539]

Joan in a nutshell Joan: "Hello darkness my old friend"

[@nazninsultanask]

Your voice is like honey.. I could listen to it for hours🥰

[@nazninsultanask]

Thank you! For the ❤️

[@melenatorr]

Thank you for this study of the life of Juana of Castile. May I contribute some dissenting views: What source did you use for the torture of Juana by Isabel? There is evidence that cuerda was used by the Marquis of Denia much later, when Juana was incarcerated at Tordesillas, but I don't recall reading anything about Isabel doing so in Juana's teens. Please do let me know where this information came from. FYI the portrait you are using for the union with Philip the Handsome is not of Juana of Castile. It is Joanna of Naples as portrayed by Raphael. Juana was not herself the heir to Aragon, which observed Salic Law, meaning a female could not inherit. However, the Catholic Kings negotiated the right of the son of a female descendant to inherit, and so Charles was able to become king of Aragon by right of his mother. There is a confusion about Juana in and out of Spain. There were two journeys to Spain by Juana and Philip. During the first journey, there was an attempt to educate Philip to rule the kingdoms, but he was recalcitrant, and left Juana alone. This was when Isabel and Juana had their conflicts and the climax at la Mota and when little Fernando was born. The second journey was when Isabel died. This was the last time Juana left Flanders. The corpse legend has a lot of questions and exaggerations. She did not have the coffin opened many times. It was three times in the early period of Philip's death. Once on All Saint's Day; once on the suspicion that his body had been stolen and once for unexplained reasons. She did not make love to it. Her plan was to transport the coffin from Burgos in the North to Granada, in the South, to obey Philip's request to be buried by Isabel. In the event, she did keep the coffin during her incarceration in Tordesillas and used it as an argument against remarriage as suggested by Fernando (she couldn't remarry with her husband unburied). Philip was not buried at Granada for many years. Juana's child was born during the journey. Juana never made it to Granada with the coffin. Charles attempted to take Catalina away before the Comunero rebellion, when Catalina was a child, not 18. They returned after the traumatic effect on Juana was clear. The incident created a rift between Juana and Charles. Thank you again for this sympathetic and thoughtful review of the life of this unfortunate woman.

[@Lizzie-ve7kt]

It seems like Juana was “mad” in the sense of crazy, but more pissed at the jerks in her life. A lot of her behavior seems to only go against strict and confining ideas of “ladylike” behavior rather than being truly concerning. I think if she’d had a more supportive husband she wouldn’t have had such a negative enduring reputation.

[@jamellfoster6029]

At least Charles V had a beard to cover that dreaded Habsburg chin...

[@alonelybisexual327]

Is that you trying to be funny or rude? 🤔

[@hessaalqahtani1569]

Poor thing wasn't loved properly by ANY of her family 😭

[@alic1977]

i was waiting for this one yay 💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾 what a sad life she lived surrounded by narcissists 😥😥😥

[@alegnalowe3679]

She was not crazy.she was mistreated and abandoned.Anyone who experiences that for a prolonged span will lose mental function.

[@brettlarch8050]

As a second language Spanish and French speaker, I have been wanting to learn about French and Spanish monarchies.

[@reginaromsey]

Juana was an abused child, and an almost case study of an abused wife. After that first night of lust Phillip sent away without pay almost all of Juana’s ladies and servants. Of those servants who insisted on staying he cut off all monies to both them and Juana and some starved on the ships that brought Juana and her large Downey to Flanders. Phillip worked at controlling Juana with women servants whom she did not like, and were frequently his latest lust interest. He insured she had no friends but himself. When Phillip died Juana wished to bury him at the Royal Tombs in Grenada, but her father, returned from his Kingdom of Aragon to attempt to wrest Castile from her, refused to convey them there. Juana organized transport through summertime Spain, traveling in the cool of the night and staying at Monasteries during the heat of the day, placing Phillips coffin in the chapel. (If I had been her I would have either sealed the casket with lead and pitch, or have opened it just to be sure the Bastard as really dead!). Ferdinand, wanted to be King of Castile again, a possession he lost at the death of Isabella, so he did whatever was necessary to discredit Juana, including claiming her madness. He had her taken to the old castle of Tordesillas and locked away with none of her ladies and constantly spied upon (the written reports still exist in the Spanish archives). From then on Juana was treated like a Mad woman with only her last born child for company.

[@nataliajimenez1870]

Yep. One can just read the bio of her mom Queen Isabel to see how treacherous royal life was in the Iberian Peninsula. She had to contest with poisonings, insurrections, treason from her own family. She even had to do a power play to become sole monarch of Castile, doing her coronation when Ferdinand was out of town. Had Isabel survived Ferdinand, history would have been very different

[@justalana7676]

People were pretty unfair to Juanna

[@sebastiendeschamps3135]

YES! Finally she pronounced Castile correctly! Great vid!

[@Kingpowch]

She could have said Castilla in Spanish

[@sebastiendeschamps3135]

@@Kingpowch no, the last video on Castile she said "Cas-tiley" I am a native spanish speaker

[@bmaiamusic]

I know, right? Me encanta las historias de Juana y Catalina. Saludos desde Brasil

[@faithgarcia7638]

@hist0ricaI her vids are amazing, but proper pronunciation makes this even better. I don't see a problem with one constructive criticism... no one here seems to be upset... 😅😅

[@Mrshoneybell1992]

It’s hard to keep up sometimes there are so many Juan’s, Juana’s, Fernandos and you name it. Never the less finding your Channel really sparked my interest in history and I will rewatch these videos ♥️

[@angushasmail]

I’m so excited every time I see a notification from you! Solely thanks to your videos, I have learned SO much over the course of this pandemic. Thank you for your content. 💛

[@raveehasayed3020]

Hi Lindsey I just wanted to say thank you. I have always been very fond of history especially royal history. You are one of the main sources where I get all my knowledge. I have been watching you for a very long time. So thank you. I also had a request if you could do Elizabeth Woodville it would be nice to get to know more abt her. Thank you again

[@DanasLilMakeup]

Those poor women, Juana and Catalina de Aragon... they were abused, tormented, humiliated... i hope they are way better wherever they are according to their religion.

[@derickgoh5272]

I feel pretty bad for Juana as all 3 men who were trusted by her took the advantage and lock her away just for their own political ambition whereas Catharine also suffered but gained support from being a great queen consort and correct me if I am wrong, but I would call her ' The Princess Diana ' of the 16th century.

[@DanasLilMakeup]

@@derickgoh5272 i mostly agree with you about Catalina however I think she was even more punished because Diana could still see her children and enjoy them, and Catalina was locked away from her daughter and died without even being able to see her. Both had similar fates but I still think that Catalina and in this case also Juana suffered so much in the hands of men, in one way or the other.

[@perikoala86]

The English were catholic before Henry decided to cut ties with the Pope, they treated her badly years before she married him.

[@heartofsilver777]

Thank you for speaking the truth and shedding light on many of these women's lives.

[@AtaMarKat]

What about Maria the Mad? She seems a bit more certifiable than Juana.

[@marceaulockhart8939]

There is no formal evidence of Joanna's torture, it's most like a rumour started by her mother's enemies, such as when Isabella said that she won't take a bath until they conquer Granada. I'm a Spanish history lover, especially the Catolic Monarchs era, and I didn't hear about that rumour until I saw The Spanish Princess... Formal evidence show that Isabella was a loving mother who cared for her children and gave them the best education she could find (Joanna, Catherine and Maria were considered the most intelligent queens in Europe); I'm not saying she was a perfect mother (it was discovered that she neglected Joanna because she was third in line and therefore she centered in Juan and Isabel) but the torture...

[@bd2073]

To everyone in the comments being kind to Juana, you are a part of her long needed justice. ❤❤❤❤❤

[@KaylaNoelle1]

The craziest thing about her is that she somehow loved that nasty cheating husband of hers.

[@alfonsocantillo172]

I have read a lot of books about Juana and Isabel never tortured her, she didn't like that Juana wasn't as religious as her and she tried to hide It but she never tortured her daughter. In fact, she cared a lot about her mental health and hated Felipe for making Juana depresed.

[@TheBc99]

Interesting that her niece Mary I was also seen as mad, even though her supposed mental instability was also caused by circumstances. Honestly if I had the pressure of being a royal I'd go insane pretty quickly.

[@samantham6375]

She was never mad. She was abused and betrayed by 3 men. Father, husband and a son. Such tragic life. More tragic than Mary I of England had. RIP the Queen Joanna of Castile 1479-1555💜

[@a.munroe]

I bet you she had ptsd...

[@coyotedust]

First off she didn't live with her husband's corpse. Second she didn't stab one of her ladies in waiting, she cut off her hair with scissors. She was in Burgos when her husband died and she wanted him to be buried in Granada. She traveled with the corpse, she didn't sleep nor live with the corpse. The distance was 668 kilometers, which would take 6 1/2 hours to drive in a car today. It was reported she would open his casket to gaze upon him and kiss him. However, she didn't live nor sleep with the corpse. Her husband had been spreading rumors along with her father for years about her instability, so it isn't surprising these rumors were made up to appear that she had gone completely mad and was unfit to rule, leaving her kingdom available for her father to steal from her, with her husband dead. *Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor replaced Juana as regent. She was placed in a royal Monastery/Convent of Santa Clara in Tordesillas, Castile. It's interesting to note that during her imprisonment/or stay, Charles V her son, kept her under strict rules and regulations. She was not allowed any visitors. She lived to be 75 years old, quite an long life considering this was the Medieval Period. She was laid to rest in Granada, next to her husband and parents.

[@reginaromsey]

Thank you for illustrating Juana’ s hardships and abuse! Suffering from Depression seems to me to have been inevitable. Taking anger out on a light of love of her husband’s who was being flaunted before the whole court to their nasty smirking, isn’t particularly unreasonable for a still beautiful Queen and Spanish Beauty. Ferdinand and Charles had everything to gain by convincing the very up tight Spanish Nobility that she was unstable and they needed a Man to rule. The belief was common and stayed that way in Europe until the present day and England passing a law that girls may inherit the throne in the same birth order as boys. Finally, 30 years of seldom being spoken to will drive most people nuts!

[@thedorkone1516]

"She became paranoid that the nuns who cared for her were plotting to murder her." Gee, I can't imagine why she might think THAT.

[@Hulachowdown]

2:58 I just about spat out my coffee. I just think my definition of handsome is a little bit different but to each there own.🤷🏻‍♀️

[@georgestown]

Nice summary. Just to be clear, the Inquisition was created in France and not in Spain by queen Isabel.

[@AmyHoldaway27]

Really? I didn’t know that.

[@AnastaciaInCleveland]

Yes, that was in the 1200s. It was created to suppress the Cathar religion - a dualistic form of Christianity. Cathars were rounded uo, tortured, and killed by both the King of France (Phillip le Bel) and the Pope. IIRC, it was the Dominican order that administered the Inquisition. It continued in different forms including the Spanish Inquisition. The Catholic Church had the "Office of the Inquisition" well into the 20th century. The Office is called something different now. Pope Benedict XVI headed that Office when he was still Cardinal Ratzenberger. I'm sorry that I can't remember its name at the moment. ~ Anastacia in Cleveland

[@AnastaciaInCleveland]

*up

[@suddhadasi]

It was used first in France in 13th century quite briefly for a specific political purpose, that's true, Isabel did reinvent it for her own political needs almost 200 years later.

[@michelesilva9491]

It is so sad that every single man in her life only wanted to take what was hers and cared nothing for her. Even her own son. Just so sad.

[@shreyaagarwal7682]

Feel really sad for her.... Nothing she did proved her insane. Yes, deciding to wait by her dead husband's side may sound weird however, that's anything but insanity. People have done worse out of love for their dead partners. She was just a victim who was taken advantage of by every person that was supposed to stand by her including her own father and that too merely for the thirst of power.

[@sjc4]

Charles II couldn't talk, could barely eat, and was rendered completely disabled by hydrocephalus. But no one tried to rip the crown from him. Juana no doubt had some sort of psychological pathology, but it was far more likely that those around her amplified these issues to undermine her power. After all, she was a woman.

[@vilwarin5635]

It is a matter of male heirs. She already had 2 male sons, so her duty was already acomplished, and to the eyes of ther people she has nothing else to do. No one cared if she died because she already had sons and grandsons. However, Carlos II was the only male heir (although he had a half brother) and no children. That´s why he was married 2 times and his wives tried to become pregnant every day. Also, Charles had no father, brother or son that tried to steal his throne from him, his mother defended him with all her power, and the rest of Europe was bussy planning who would be the next king without been too obvious. If Carlos II would had a son, I assure you he would had suffer an "accident" earlier in his life

[@enriquepascual8767]

I went throughout the comments, and is crazy!!!, lets have the facts right, HER MOTHER, QUEEN ISABEL NEVER TORTURED JUANA.

[@0121-x2j]

Prove it..

[@enriquepascual8767]

Prove it you!, the person who accuse has to ptove it, not the opposite way.

[@lauraz2896]

Site your source then

[@Dryadkal]

I uploaded a whole rant on it. You are right Isabella never hurt Joanna. God. The misinformation

[@ara0812ara]

I think Juana was a very strong and stubborn girl, and because of the abuse she started to develop depression leading to mental illness. As I was watching the video I thought of Catherine of Aragon, Catherine was also strong and stubborn as Juana but she didn’t endure all the abuse Juana did, she was also in love with Henry VIII and would do anything to keep him and her title of Queen, her strength and personality are the reasons why she alone put up a fight against Henry VIII when he wanted to annul their marriage. These girls had a strong will and strong personalities, which were not common for that era. Imagine being raised by Queen Isabella of Spain, that’s why Catherine of Aragon even went into battle while pregnant in England. BTW, the portrait of young Juana and young Catherine look so much alike, as if they were the same person, I know they are sisters, but their portraits look as if they were twins

[@savagedarksider5934]

Henry prevented any suitors from Mary I; that was Henry way to get back at Catherine.

[@vadalia3860]

Other than the stuff with her husband's corpse, which can be waved away as temporary insanity from extreme grief, she sounds like a perfectly reasonable, intelligent woman (albeit one with a slight temper, although nowhere near as bad as many of her male contemporaries) who was continually undermined & disrespected without any allies who she could trust. Just think what she might have accomplished had her mother set aside her religious zealotry long enough to take her under her wing.

[@michellef4645]

Please make a video of Juana's grandmother, Queen Isabella of Portugal! Was she really insane or was she, like Juana, a victim of abuse and toxic relationships?

[@ingridrapala1223]

Growing up, we thought it would be so wonderful to be a princess living a royal life. But instead, there are so many stories of tragic lives, and of people hurting each other for the love of power. Ferdinand found it acceptable to hurt, not only a continent of people he’d never meet, but even his own children. Better to live a simple life, it seems.

[@mrs.anonymous6291]

Wow! you are so amazing! I have learned more from you than I did in all of my schooling when I was younger and I am a 55 year old women. Thank you for posting this and for taking the time to do the massive research it must take to create such videos I just discovered you during the lock-down and you are very entertaining!

[@samanthafortich2056]

I've been looking for documentaries about her. Thank you for uploading!

[@heythere4410]

It's like that one Taylor Swift song "mad woman" which is about a woman being in an abusive and toxic relationship but when she acted in response, people labeled her as mad

[@natalierose1072]

Super excited for this video! I absolutely love your channel

[@ninamorales7815]

Please do a full video on Mary Stuart!

[@jeannevacca1328]

Please!

[@tritzispoosa]

What a sad and tragic life she lived. History is so fascinating. Great video.

[@Angy708]

She definitely had a tragic life and become a political prawn. Did any of her 6 children really loved her?

[@perikoala86]

The youngest one.

[@reginaromsey]

Most of her children didn’t know her at all. They were raised by wet nurses and nannies. Her husband wanted her as an ornament and wife, not a mother and didn’t care about being a daddy. Only the youngest knew and lived with her and she was ripped away from Juana like a filly away from her mother and sold for breeding.

[@carolineofansbach1690]

Honestly, The only child that loved me was my youngest daughter, Catalina.

[@reginaromsey]

@@carolineofansbach1690 the only child who really knew her mother, and endured some of the abuse heaped upon Juana. Not allowed to leave the rooms where her mother was held, or play with the children she could watch from their windows.

[@carolineofansbach1690]

@@reginaromsey My baby went through that!?

[@Sleepycat29]

What a sad life...

[@rosem.6607]

"Juana was increasingly unstable" Me: "Juana bet?" ;)

[@alonelybisexual327]

Ha. Ha. Ha.

[@queensparkleintexas8090]

😆

[@coyotedust]

Where is the "data" that says Juana was "tortured" for her faith? Research states that Isabella "may have" tortured Juana for her rebelliousness, but there is no verification of this.

[@derickgoh5272]

Everybody repeat after me : JUANA DESERVED BETTER!!!!!!!!