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@roniusadethel9768
@roniusadethel9768 3 жыл бұрын
Trump saying "there is no rush" on the second round against the quest hunter made me feel chat's emotions.
@Holostryker
@Holostryker 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe he thought he was playing classic.
@squid_squad42069
@squid_squad42069 3 жыл бұрын
Trump and greeding for value in a burn deck and losing because of it, name a more iconic duo
@iceize212
@iceize212 3 жыл бұрын
Burn deck? I think he played like two spells that could go face thats it.
@tsukeisawa7786
@tsukeisawa7786 3 жыл бұрын
this game 1 is a perfect illustration
@squid_squad42069
@squid_squad42069 3 жыл бұрын
@@iceize212 if you're playing for the ignite shenanigans, you're playing a burn deck.. the whole point is to go infinite w/ chandlers and ignite and burn the enemy's face until they die
@Thalaranthey
@Thalaranthey 3 жыл бұрын
@@tsukeisawa7786 i mean in g1 he really had bad luck few times, too xd
@DirEnGay
@DirEnGay 3 жыл бұрын
@@squid_squad42069 Sorry this is a copy and paste from another threat but I feel like people are really not figuring out the benefit of the Ignite burn. This is what I figured out though. If you're playing the quest Ignite build there's literally zero reason to have discover cards in your deck it's just wasting time, just play draw and cheap cards and cycle ASAP. Even Auctioneer is a great fit in there along with the Sanctum Chandler just for more card draw. People will learn soon that you only want 1 copy of ignite, not 2 because of the exponential growth on it, and potion of illusion would work wonders in the deck along with maybe 2x phoenix. Basically all you need for the Ignite Quest build is 2x Ice Barrier for sustain and at least 1 more frost spell, but you could probably include 2x Flurry because 0 mana good for miracle plays. You draw like crazy, use some of the new cards like the tradeable fire AoE better cycle and an AoE if you need it. Run the fire package obviously but only one ignite, and all of your arcane cards will be for card draw. You want 2x Incanters, 2x Cram Session, 2x Intellect, 2x Spring Water and you should only be running 4-5 minions max. Cycle that shit ASAP, quest will no doubt be complete along the way, use an Auctioneer early if you need to for more cycle, you can include a Potion of Illusion either for combo with Dawngrasp to give 6 spell damage or to return a Chandler/Auctioneer to hand as 1 drop, and by this point you should be able to go infinite if not sooner. The streamers all included 2x ignite and they played slow and filled hand with discover cards and it simply won't work with an ignite deck. I'm sure people will figure it out once the set releases for everyone.
@Grandma_bun
@Grandma_bun 3 жыл бұрын
Watching him wanting to space himself against those hunters hurt my soul Its hunter questline, you ain't gonna outrun their damage by going slow man
@defrte
@defrte 3 жыл бұрын
Hand filled with dead cards, looking for way too much value, and then getting stomped by turn 5 Sounds about Trump Deck has nearly no minions and has very little AOE clear in the way of spells, lol.
@Demintika
@Demintika 3 жыл бұрын
Watching Trump picking cards from Discover due to their class instead of value even though he already had enough to complete quest hurts my soul further.
@Minus4
@Minus4 3 жыл бұрын
You don't understand if they keep hitting him in the face they'll get tuckered out that's when it's trump's time to strike :P
@pandemonium2431
@pandemonium2431 3 жыл бұрын
It's literally day one, he's adjusting
@HighLanderPonyYT
@HighLanderPonyYT 3 жыл бұрын
@@pandemonium2431 He's adjusting even on the last day, every time.
@presidentbolbi1401
@presidentbolbi1401 3 жыл бұрын
“What is a level 14 orc to ME?” *Loses* ….yeah sounds about right
@zeta2209
@zeta2209 3 жыл бұрын
Surely rushing this quest is a better way to play? Value is of little concern when the first 2 rewards provide value by themselves, and Varden gives you “permanent value”
@lMarcusl
@lMarcusl 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, this is Trump we're talking about. The guy that picks Deep Freeze on discover in his spell damage Mage against a no-minion Hunter. The guy that chides chat that "there's no rush" on completing his quest when he's just been burned to death by turn 9 by the same deck a game before. The guy that has been consistently roping and making bad last second decisions because of it since he started playing Hearthstone, and nothing has changed since. You can't make him unlearn going for value. It's his brand and no matter how many times it bites him in the ass, he never learns.
@newergamer7974
@newergamer7974 3 жыл бұрын
@@lMarcusl thats why we watch him lol
@yargolocus4853
@yargolocus4853 3 жыл бұрын
@@lMarcusl and we love him for it
@kidscast5842
@kidscast5842 3 жыл бұрын
MarcusTheAbsolute ok
@meltdown4126
@meltdown4126 3 жыл бұрын
@@lMarcusl and i've had people in this comment section tell me Trump is the real ingenious mvp of this game, lmao. His way is science, and mostly maths - that's how he gets his rank 1 legends. And while he's firing blind he's borderline pathetic - which is the entertaining part of the channel
@yeahbuddy6428
@yeahbuddy6428 3 жыл бұрын
Watching him ping instead of playing a 2 Mana 11 damage was hard to watch.
@HitanBot
@HitanBot 3 жыл бұрын
"We don't have time for that" proceeds to spend his entire next turn summoning two water elementals with his doom impending.
@jeffperez9563
@jeffperez9563 3 жыл бұрын
I think with that deck, you could force it more, trump focus too much on the value trades but you could have used many times the froze spell that cost 0, specially against that hunter
@ryanpost1155
@ryanpost1155 3 жыл бұрын
"it's about pacing yourself" Dude, you are playing a burn hunter with no heal. How on earth is that about pacing yourself.
@commonpepe2270
@commonpepe2270 3 жыл бұрын
classic trump playing for value in the burn mirror haha
@BlankeeStarcraft
@BlankeeStarcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly spell damage +3 isn’t enough, Blizz should just double it so Trump wins more often kappa
@axeltheinternetsweeper8082
@axeltheinternetsweeper8082 3 жыл бұрын
Battlecry : turn your hero into malygos lul
@rat488
@rat488 3 жыл бұрын
honestly spell damage +10 might not be enough for that quest reward
@saudmubarak8324
@saudmubarak8324 3 жыл бұрын
@@rat488 no that will be ridiculous.. Spell damge 5 will be ridiculous to.... I think 4 is the right number because the quest is hard to complete hoesntly
@Icetea-2000
@Icetea-2000 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and he actually would’ve still lost if ignite wasn’t that broken… I mean seriously what the hell
@Skystrife89
@Skystrife89 3 жыл бұрын
It's not the reward that isn't good it's just everyone is going to play hunter it's way too easy to pull off as seen in this and tons of other KZbin channels I've seen needs to be something like 2 spells then 3 spells then 3 spells again to delay the burst
@Walterion
@Walterion 3 жыл бұрын
The last game was pure Yu-gi-oh levels of craziness.
@sakuda213
@sakuda213 3 жыл бұрын
I think you need to play faster there were multiple turns when you could have progressed the quest but decided on value and that lack of spell damage earlier really hurt you. This is a burn deck IMO. But honestly just my opinion I’m not a great player.
@Pikaton659
@Pikaton659 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely. I watched another streamer play the unrefined, preconstructed version of the deck and they were finishing the quest by Turn 5 or 6 and they could actually burn down the opponent
@Xariona
@Xariona 3 жыл бұрын
yeah there's something wrong with his playstyle when he loses to quest rogue
@ropyb5972
@ropyb5972 3 жыл бұрын
Imo in the games shown Trump did get pretty unlucky with his drawrate on Incanter's Flow which didn't help
@BlankeeStarcraft
@BlankeeStarcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Quest hunter was able to deal at least 18 damage on turn nine to kill Trump, with 6 damage overkill between aimed shot and another possible hero power, so 24 damage total. That’s insane.
@shubhod9569
@shubhod9569 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but he was playing a bunch of awful cards. Imagine if Trump played an actual deck that hunter would have no good plays and just fall over lol
@rajkanishu
@rajkanishu 3 жыл бұрын
against a deck that plays no minions (so all the damage is free to go face), played in the most incorrect way possible (because trump kept all his cards and played slowly instead of trying to win the face race), is it really meaningful?
@BlankeeStarcraft
@BlankeeStarcraft 3 жыл бұрын
@@rajkanishu It's not as though ice barrier would've saved him. Sure, he could've tried playing a more aggressively styled mage deck, but then what's the point of the quest?
@Griimory
@Griimory 3 жыл бұрын
New hunter quest seems like a faster Shadowreaper Anduin OTK Hero power deck on a class that typically plays aggro. Interesting, considering how strong this is and Shadowreaper Anduin hero power combo got nerfed so it couldn't be 0 cost and this playing much faster.
@rajkanishu
@rajkanishu 3 жыл бұрын
again, you are seeing victories against completely unrefined decks, old raza priest was oppressive because the rest of the deck was simply board clears, healing and card generation, this has none of it exept some amount of control tools, but those are also the spells that are supposed to deal damage to the enemy hero to let you win
@rajkanishu
@rajkanishu 3 жыл бұрын
give it one week of regular standard meta and you will see, i still think it's a powerful deck but nowhere as broken as raza priest was (or is now in wild tbh)
@Yusukeseru
@Yusukeseru 3 жыл бұрын
@@rajkanishu Raza Priest is a WILD deck and now consider, if you put this quest into wild spell hunter, this deck becomes more equal to Razapriest, because it can reach faster it's win con, only downside I might see that priest has more draw cards than hunter.
@MichaelSmith-zw5fu
@MichaelSmith-zw5fu 3 жыл бұрын
Blizzard 2020: We're changing Illidan's card to Xavius because we don't want to confuse the playerbase with a card ALSO being a hero. Blizzard 2021: Look! You can have two different Rokara cards on the board at the same time while also using a Rokara hero portrait!
@newergamer7974
@newergamer7974 3 жыл бұрын
Lol true
@bevvvy1374
@bevvvy1374 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget kurtrus
@MichaelSmith-zw5fu
@MichaelSmith-zw5fu 3 жыл бұрын
@@bevvvy1374 And all the deathwings
@jacobhald1377
@jacobhald1377 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention Xyrella. There are SO many xyrella cards.
@runtergerutscht4401
@runtergerutscht4401 2 жыл бұрын
Blizzard in 2022: you can start the game as rokara, play Rokara, finish your quest to get Rokara and turn yourself into Rokara!
@frederikkrukow7828
@frederikkrukow7828 3 жыл бұрын
Watching early for COMPOUNDING VALUE!
@ruukinen
@ruukinen 3 жыл бұрын
Plays burn deck/combo deck and consistently goes for cards that don't draw more of his deck or cost too much to ever play. This video was too painful to watch.
@mikemo42
@mikemo42 3 жыл бұрын
If you are not going to watch this whole video please just watch last turn 40:26 it was quite explosive.
@Eshiay
@Eshiay 3 жыл бұрын
Hunter needs the same nerf Raz had where the hero power goes to (1) that quest is BS
@cardsharpHS
@cardsharpHS 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Dean Ayala’s first pass at Wailing Caverns card designs LIVES. Thought they had totally nixed the crazy idea.
@DaedLizrad
@DaedLizrad 3 жыл бұрын
Why is he so attached to running minions in the deck, seems like a really subpar version of the deck.
@kdawgthechef2855
@kdawgthechef2855 3 жыл бұрын
Trumps a simple man. He sees value generation and he takes it.
@Elongated_Muskrat
@Elongated_Muskrat 3 жыл бұрын
Cats don't play hearthstone. They wouldn't have the time or money or patience.
@jawbuzzer3135
@jawbuzzer3135 3 жыл бұрын
Time or money sure, but what cat doesn't have time? Is there a secret feline nine to five which isn't just sleeping that I haven't been notified of?
@ramonestefano
@ramonestefano 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao here's the summary of this deck: Loses to Questline Hunter
@Pouncewound
@Pouncewound 3 жыл бұрын
summary of this deck: Loses*
@georgieporgie5327
@georgieporgie5327 3 жыл бұрын
If you play and build it like trump, sure.
@sameers9282
@sameers9282 3 жыл бұрын
Trump trying to play Flurry on an empty board and saying “Oh my god. That’s so sad.” And then only getting an 8 cost Frost spell next is classic. Love watching you man.
@ZergrushEddie
@ZergrushEddie 3 жыл бұрын
Spring Water with minions in his deck. Trump never could resist the "Reno with Duplicates"
@konohahurricane07
@konohahurricane07 3 жыл бұрын
clearly trump doesn't know how to play spell mage
@Onmur
@Onmur 3 жыл бұрын
33:07 "I'm currently black and blue," says Trump, after getting beat up multiple times in a row. :V EDIT: Someone pointed out I totally mishead this. BTW, that hunter deck he played against twice seemed to have pretty much the same idea as his deck, but better.
@rajkanishu
@rajkanishu 3 жыл бұрын
trump could've won that, he just approached the game in the wrong way, he held all the cards he had for no reason instead of rushing the quest to try and win the race, he even mentioned using two flurries in a row on the same minions but for some reason he just didn't do it, i believe this deck has the potential to be at least decent once the list is refined and people figure out how it's supposed to be played
@johannustenko8740
@johannustenko8740 3 жыл бұрын
But he says: "I'm currently lacking blue" :(
@meltdown4126
@meltdown4126 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they seem kinda same - Hunter has minions and easier access to face damage through the button, while Mage has insane draw and good aoe clears
@Onmur
@Onmur 3 жыл бұрын
@@johannustenko8740 Oh, I totally misheard that. You're right, I thought he said "black and" instead of "lacking".
@darkgrundi9543
@darkgrundi9543 3 жыл бұрын
@@meltdown4126 that hunter had almost no minions, and trump has 1 whole aoe in his deck. They both should race face with every spell, but trump just is trump.
@travelingbard1
@travelingbard1 3 жыл бұрын
I love the surprise victory at the end 😂😂😂
@T3DNR3D
@T3DNR3D 3 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand why people whinge and moan about Trump's sub-optimal plays in burn decks. He's the mayor of VALUE town. The hilarity is watching him play a burn deck with such a value oriented mindset.
@TechDragon1
@TechDragon1 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this deck is capable of so much more. Trump just didn't have a burning desire to complete the quest, he played it chill.
@rajkanishu
@rajkanishu 3 жыл бұрын
precisely what happened, this is basically mozaki mage, not some sort of control deck
@rajkanishu
@rajkanishu 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, it has the flexibility and can go for a control gameplay to just eventually win with the new card that puts itself into the deck and the new elemental, but still
@nonoyogurt
@nonoyogurt 3 жыл бұрын
@@rajkanishu yes, but it’s so sloooow. I’ve seen other streamers rush quest and it worked pretty well. Arcane intellect and Springwater do the job better than Chandler.
@Phox532
@Phox532 3 жыл бұрын
After watching a bunch of people play the quest mage here’s my prediction quest mage will Tier 2 deck and it’s going to be nerfed within the first three weeks of the meta. Quest shaman and quest hunter Are going to be tier 1 decks and never get nerf Until the final week of the expansion
@teajayyyy
@teajayyyy 3 жыл бұрын
They definitely need to nerf the hunter quest. Make it take 9 spells instead of 6.
@darkgrundi9543
@darkgrundi9543 3 жыл бұрын
no they need to buff trump not going for value and actually outburning hunter.
@justincarroll1836
@justincarroll1836 3 жыл бұрын
My guess is that they'll can the mid reward to 1 mana or give it only 1 refresh on tavish
@teajayyyy
@teajayyyy 3 жыл бұрын
@@justincarroll1836 probably. I do think something is necessary. It’s a little overturned IMO
@justincarroll1836
@justincarroll1836 3 жыл бұрын
@@teajayyyy I certainly agree. The downside is that you could run a bunch of healing to offset it but when the meta becomes dominated by burn and antiburn decks, any card game becomes less fun
@gbr56473
@gbr56473 3 жыл бұрын
it's always so fun to watch Trump play
@polishhockeyfan
@polishhockeyfan 3 жыл бұрын
I give the devs 1 month before the Hunter Quest is nerfed. Its literally easier to accomplish than Raza Priest.
@rajkanishu
@rajkanishu 3 жыл бұрын
easier? LMAO
@polishhockeyfan
@polishhockeyfan 3 жыл бұрын
@@rajkanishu The Raza combo required you to have no duplicates, play an 8 cost hero, then play a 5 cost Raza afterwards. The hunter quest lets you achieve the same endgame with a much smoother curve and much earlier then Raza Priest ever could. You can see in multiple games from KZbinrs that Hunters have consistently been able to drop Tavish turn 6 or 7 and then just go off. Raza Priest had to wait till like turn 9 at the earliest.
@rajkanishu
@rajkanishu 3 жыл бұрын
@@polishhockeyfan priest has every single value and control tool known to man, it could drag the game for as long as it wanted no problem, current wild raza priest is definitely more broken than this quest hunter and the old frozen throne one was too, especially considering the fact that all the wins we are witnessing in this prerelase server are against unrefined decks
@rajkanishu
@rajkanishu 3 жыл бұрын
also you could play Raza turn 5 and Anduin turn 8 and it would work, you didnt have to necesarily play Raza when you already had the new hero power, also the rest of the deck is all removal, healing and card generation, which aside from the former is what the hunter deck lacks (at least in the unrefined state we see now)
@JinFreeks
@JinFreeks 3 жыл бұрын
@@polishhockeyfan Mayor difference tho is that this is hunter we're talking about, not priest. I know, obvious, doh, hur hur hur. But seriously. While Raza-priest was "no duplicates" and somewhat slower it also was build around the control options priest has. Will quest hunter be a thing? Probably, looks good. But hunter has neither the constant refill nor the draw power/card generation that priest had. Full aggro or even decent sized mid-range should beat them down because they lack a board and if they use their spells to control the damage going in they're not shooting you down.
@ltcalvery
@ltcalvery 3 жыл бұрын
Look I know I’m not great at this game but there were SO many times I was like “Just progress the quest!” or “You can use the frost spell now!” or “Ditch the stupid ‘draw a fire spell minion’ and put in Antonidas and Frost Barrier!” Ugh. This hurt to watch
@bevvvy1374
@bevvvy1374 3 жыл бұрын
No man you don't understand that winning is secondary to value
@sydrroa7234
@sydrroa7234 3 жыл бұрын
XD pain pain
@Novastars8877
@Novastars8877 3 жыл бұрын
I love how these pre-expansion videos are always trump saying unlucky and chat roasting him and the comments roasting him. Partly I think trump is playing up his mistakes, but their is a learning curve and no one has any idea what they are doing in the beginning of the expansion. Love you Trump, keep greeding against aggro decks and not using burn against self damage decks
@rajkanishu
@rajkanishu 3 жыл бұрын
that first game RNG was INSANE, what were the chances of not finding a single damaging spell in two discovers and evocation? can someone do the math please? EDIT: someone did it! check replies!
@snowfree6602
@snowfree6602 3 жыл бұрын
It either happens or it doesn't. So yeah, about 50/50
@TheFonz8
@TheFonz8 3 жыл бұрын
@@snowfree6602 Math major moves
@rajkanishu
@rajkanishu 3 жыл бұрын
and now that the mandatory joke has been said let's hope someone smarter than me reads this and comes up with the stats
@Mr91Jmay
@Mr91Jmay 3 жыл бұрын
Tbf he still misplaced hugely not picking the 2nd evocation. Devolving was always going to be useless
@rajkanishu
@rajkanishu 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr91Jmay true, but again, what were the chances of not getting a single damagin spell?
@gmkoshy
@gmkoshy 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that the video contains multiple losses. Thanks for showing things as they are!
@RoxasMatheson
@RoxasMatheson 3 жыл бұрын
33:41 I had to replay this frame by frame because the edit there confused the heck outta me. Darn you Yens!!
@Elsuya_Milo
@Elsuya_Milo 3 жыл бұрын
The more I look at this quest, the more I want to play it. Looks fun.
@zelassin
@zelassin 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah hunter quest looks strong
@MadcookieBG
@MadcookieBG 3 жыл бұрын
@@zelassin I see what you did there
@douglashoffman7129
@douglashoffman7129 3 жыл бұрын
Thiji's version is better with only anta in it. All spells is the way to go or least minions as possible
@avrilalien
@avrilalien 3 жыл бұрын
can't wait for hunter quest to get nerfed week 1 LUL
@kingcagesmith
@kingcagesmith 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of sad. Because I love lock and load hunter. But I also totally agree. Seems waaaay too powerful. Sad. Maybe they will nerf it to 3 damaging spells each level. Then lock and load can still keep their win condition.
@rajkanishu
@rajkanishu 3 жыл бұрын
I also expect nerfs, but to be fair this is a test server filled with unrefined (because of the 10 new cards condition) and sometimes even memey decks, the results we see here will most likely not reflect upon the actual standard ladder, once the good ol' aggro decks start popping out we might see it struggling
@Jor-Al
@Jor-Al 3 жыл бұрын
How dafaq can you give a hero REFRESHING 0 COST ABLITY?. The same shit with Anduin priest, but that shit at least is slower, this one is pure nuts. It should be at least 2 mana cost and refrashable, or to be able to refresh 3 times in one turn and cost 0 mana, so you cant just otk you oponent from full hp
@allhailderpfestor4839
@allhailderpfestor4839 3 жыл бұрын
I expect it to get either standard Raza treatment (1 instead of 0) or have steps to be increased to 3 from 2
@acenuke2513
@acenuke2513 3 жыл бұрын
will probably go up to 3 or 4 spells per quest stage. i do think it will still be powerful after the nerf
@keitarosempai9594
@keitarosempai9594 3 жыл бұрын
How many missplays you want in your video? Trump: yes. The chat was On fire for sure
@johnny5731
@johnny5731 3 жыл бұрын
Quest mage is on fire! ... Barely wins one game.
@Gameboy0001
@Gameboy0001 3 жыл бұрын
It's on fire alright... and burning to the ground.
@katalinvarga4886
@katalinvarga4886 3 жыл бұрын
if you check other streamers... they rushed the quest in 1-2 rounds an won easily. Trump is more of a Control/Value player when this deck is a tempo burn... Overall i got this quest in the preopening event and i just wish mage will be having a decent position in the meta because its my main and i would love to play Katrana Fire mage :D I got the Hunter one too which obviously going to dominate the meta (Facehunter as usual) but mage seems fun
@boussim12
@boussim12 3 жыл бұрын
"Quest Mage is on Fire ! " *Procedes to lose all the matches*
@DougieFresh_83
@DougieFresh_83 3 жыл бұрын
My anxiety skyrockets whenever Trump ropes
@Sliverappl
@Sliverappl 3 жыл бұрын
The old face hunter at least need to control the board. Now there is completely no interaction between players with the new spell face hunter
@horoboro6537
@horoboro6537 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes. Control value quest mage. A classic. Good plays trump. Oh wait...
@scoob6505
@scoob6505 3 жыл бұрын
Sanctum Chandler: Could I BE anymore OP?
@seeker38
@seeker38 3 жыл бұрын
Awww, he was so proud of that victory.
@quiteabitofdamage
@quiteabitofdamage 3 жыл бұрын
As a deckbuilder and a player, Trump is a good content creator
@Stulele
@Stulele 3 жыл бұрын
Is this a video to convince me to play quest hunter?
@donfougere5645
@donfougere5645 3 жыл бұрын
That quest hunter is just too OP
@CuriousMoth
@CuriousMoth 3 жыл бұрын
I think I'm right in saying that you mostly want spells that draw, combo or reduce cost/give mana on your combo turn. Spell generating minions should be able to cover a fairly large amount of quest completion, but every extra spell in your deck is a miss on your combo turn, so you want as many as you need to consistently complete the quest and no more.
@sHillChannel
@sHillChannel 3 жыл бұрын
less is for volumetric, less milk, fewer for numerical, countable things, 2 fewer coins.
@arthesiik2820
@arthesiik2820 3 жыл бұрын
"Quest Mage IS ON FIRE!" 1 win out of 5 games ... I guess he's experiencing BURN out
@TheAacharge
@TheAacharge 3 жыл бұрын
Your Mage is the best target. 😂😂😂
@georgekingawsome6361
@georgekingawsome6361 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!
@bezretmet
@bezretmet 3 жыл бұрын
this deck is going to lose hard whilst its unoptimized and the meta will be aggro hunter, pally and shaman decks.
@LtLabcoat
@LtLabcoat 3 жыл бұрын
This deck is going to lose hard to basically the same deck but without minions.
@bezretmet
@bezretmet 3 жыл бұрын
@@LtLabcoat Would mean missing out on the grand magus though :/
@Novastars8877
@Novastars8877 3 жыл бұрын
An idea I have seen is that you play ONLY MINIONS and then play the 5 mana 4/5 candle guy and then ignite as your only spell. Would work better in wild with sorcerers apprentice for turn 9 infinite damage but still.
@TimboTbagz
@TimboTbagz 3 жыл бұрын
Is there likely to be any kind of set you can buy like the mini-sets? I like the ones where you know what you'll get. Thanks
@animushumanitas6894
@animushumanitas6894 3 жыл бұрын
"This isn't working out nearly like I thought it would..." Accidentally uses Sanctum Chandler to cycle Ignite and win the game "Wait, wait..."
@Gramald
@Gramald 3 жыл бұрын
do you have shivers in your hand trump? When you held it up to our face near start of this, it sure looks like it..
@gwydionml6479
@gwydionml6479 3 жыл бұрын
Sanctum chandler in a deck that requires about 2/3 of your cards (at least) to not synergize with it seems problematic. Probably this deck will end up being an all spells deck
@DirEnGay
@DirEnGay 3 жыл бұрын
Nah Chandler can sit in hand for combo at the end. People need to learn to drop 1x copy of ignite and include pretty much nothing but card draw, sustain and removal until the deck is empty and then just spam ignites. You're going to need ways to draw more than 1 ignite per turn by the end, preferably 3-4 and that's doable with mana biscuit, discounts and Chandler. There's no reason to lock hand up with discovers and value plays when your goal is to stack ignite higher. An auctioneer and 2x phoenix can work also but you should probably limit to about 5 units especially if you want Spring Water to work. I'll probably include a potion of illusion too just to grab a 1 mana chandler, but this depends if you need to lethal by turn 6 or not. 2x ice barrier should help progress quest and stay alive and minions can be dealt with in a number of ways whilst you cycle. It's also worth noting that with Quest complete and a perma +3 spell damage and if you line a phoenix or two to awaken on your burn turn the ignite could already be at 5 or so damage, and if you can play 4 in one turn and do 6+7+8+9 that is actually 30 damage. This could be achieved sooner depending if your opponent has heals or not.
@otaviominatto2131
@otaviominatto2131 3 жыл бұрын
@@DirEnGay by the end of quest cram season will draw you 4 cards for 2 mana. The Chandler is garbage.
@DirEnGay
@DirEnGay 3 жыл бұрын
@@otaviominatto2131 Lol Chandler is for bringing Ignite back to your hand repeatedly once your deck is empty you idiot, otherwise you could only play it and draw it once per turn instead of like 5 or so if you have a 1 mana Chandler and mana biscuit, hot streak etc. How will a spell only deck play multiple ignites? You're not going to get value out of it if you just play it a couple of times when you draw it, that's going to feel so bad, ignite needs an entire deck built around it otherwise it's not worth it. All Cram Session and other card draw would do by the time deck is empty is draw ignite once and then deal fatigue damage to you, Chandler+Ignite is a combo, it immediately draws the upgraded ignite repeatedly as soon as you play it.
@otaviominatto2131
@otaviominatto2131 3 жыл бұрын
@@DirEnGay calm down edgy kid with a badass nick, you dont need to insult me. I still disagree with you. For me chandler is too slow.
@DirEnGay
@DirEnGay 3 жыл бұрын
@@otaviominatto2131 Slower than only being able to play Ignite once per turn? It makes no sense. It's not my fault you're an idiot.
@Thirtyleven
@Thirtyleven 3 жыл бұрын
love that the only minions in the deck are wand thief and Chandler bing instead of the op no minion cards
@ViciousViscount
@ViciousViscount 3 жыл бұрын
This is going to be my favorite archetype for sure.
@remyllebeau77
@remyllebeau77 3 жыл бұрын
I see the potential for this deck to be F tier.
@newergamer7974
@newergamer7974 3 жыл бұрын
True
@doifhg
@doifhg 3 жыл бұрын
man they oughta call this guy mayor of comedy town *ba dum tish*
@simonbas6
@simonbas6 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder, can you go infinite with double sorc apprentice plus ignite plus chandler
@ridwansetiadi8393
@ridwansetiadi8393 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine chat watching Trump pacing his quest while playing against hunter. #SoMuchPatience
@TheKnifedog
@TheKnifedog 3 жыл бұрын
They turned hunter into the Raza priest that plagues wild.
@GreatJinZ
@GreatJinZ 3 жыл бұрын
These APM type of decks are our mayor’s weaknesses. LoL, he messed up so much in many turns.
@gaberielpendragon
@gaberielpendragon 3 жыл бұрын
So the deck isn't bad, per se, Trump is just terrible playing it. Needs to play this more like quest hunter.
@ThePainOfSilenc
@ThePainOfSilenc 3 жыл бұрын
Yup the hunter quest is looking just fine, completely balanced, never going to receive a nerf, they certainly just got it right the first time around. Mhmmm
@ig5r140
@ig5r140 3 жыл бұрын
will we be getting a star-review for this expansion?
@MrBnnashton
@MrBnnashton 3 жыл бұрын
yes he said we will. working on it over the weekend
@CrunchyCroquette
@CrunchyCroquette 3 жыл бұрын
Watching these hunter quest plays already makes me unexcited for standard. Some of those quests seem way out of line. The Descent of Dragons quests were far better design imo, because they just weren't as powerful. Now all gameplay seems to revolve around your own quest while interacting with your opponent as little as possible. I hope i am completely wrong about this. And that Duels arenlargely unaffected.
@TheMirksta
@TheMirksta 3 жыл бұрын
Damage based hunter beats bad unrefined control-ish deck, in other news the grass is green.
@CrunchyCroquette
@CrunchyCroquette 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMirksta correct but only remotely my point.
@JinFreeks
@JinFreeks 3 жыл бұрын
From my experience over the years I'd wager that only ~2 quests will find a stable place in the meta but I do see and agree with your point that most quests they introduced here feel very much like "I do my thing, don't care non for what ever else is going on". Sidenote, love your avatar Morksta. Hollow Knight is a neat game and deserves all the love.
@shubhod9569
@shubhod9569 3 жыл бұрын
@@CrunchyCroquette your point is just not correct lol, early expansion trash decks usually aren't representative of real meta. This hero power hunter for instance is a very slow and greedy deck with subpar control tools and bad card draw. Real decks will stomp it
@CrunchyCroquette
@CrunchyCroquette 3 жыл бұрын
@@shubhod9569 That just makes the issue worse. We already have these quests that only partially care about what the other side of the game is doing. So if those decks are the bad ones, the good ones now 100% dont care about whats going on and just do their own thing, and hearthstone turns into full solitaire. This tendency has been an issue in hearthstone for ages (see the term "Curvestone") and I fear this might become the worst curvestone meta yet. Again, I hope I am so utterly wrong as you think, but in a very different way than you described. Another thing: How is a deck thats literally almost exclusively direct damage and no card generation "greedy" and "slow"? Because they miss their turn 1? Is that enough?
@excelsiusprime
@excelsiusprime 3 жыл бұрын
wtf with these burn mage decklists without fireballs. eh
@MultiKbarry
@MultiKbarry 3 жыл бұрын
They have to have a 10 card from expansion limit and a majority of the new mage spells are fire meaning running fireball will cut into the arcane or frost making it quite difficult to complete quest.
@kmaple9
@kmaple9 3 жыл бұрын
Did apprentice magician get removed? If not, I'd like to see 2 AMs and Sanctum Chandler on the board (total 9 mana before cost reductions, if any are possible) before casting infinite Ignites for infinite damage...
@summermermaidstar756
@summermermaidstar756 3 жыл бұрын
yes it did
@KiuhKobold
@KiuhKobold 3 жыл бұрын
Just theory crafting: Ignite as the only fire spell in the deck, candle guy, arcane apprenticex2. If you find those pieces and assemble it (total 9 mana on minions), it should bring an OTK, right?
@summermermaidstar756
@summermermaidstar756 3 жыл бұрын
yeah
@summermermaidstar756
@summermermaidstar756 3 жыл бұрын
well actually, chandler draws spells not fire spells. So would need low cost cheap fire spells, or have ignite be your only spell left in deck
@KiuhKobold
@KiuhKobold 3 жыл бұрын
@@summermermaidstar756 Oh, thank you for correcting me. I thought Chandler drew fire spells specifically. But well, emptying the deck can't be THAT hard given how much draw Mage has. Its just a matter of staying alive
@xenostec
@xenostec 3 жыл бұрын
Missed the perfect timing for Rammstein "Feuer frei" Song to put in :D
@pinderscow
@pinderscow 3 жыл бұрын
Quest mage is ON FIRE! yea you know on fire means losing 3/4 and barely pulling out a win in the end
@panagiotisvoutselas4239
@panagiotisvoutselas4239 3 жыл бұрын
This video was pretty educating. Should be named "How NOT to play quest/burn mage" ft. The mayor of valuetown
@MrBiohumanomineralny
@MrBiohumanomineralny 3 жыл бұрын
So I guess Auctioneer and Grand Magus will be a must
@leftybojangles6429
@leftybojangles6429 3 жыл бұрын
They’ll nerf hunter hero power to cost 1 instead of 0, calling it now
@pedronakada4483
@pedronakada4483 3 жыл бұрын
Trump is the best Hearthstone player in my heart
@Tava
@Tava 3 жыл бұрын
this deck looks so fun
@big_azzy
@big_azzy 3 жыл бұрын
No upload of the legal spell mage variant?
@viva_la_biba
@viva_la_biba 3 жыл бұрын
why do you even play entrapped sourceress when we still have more reliable scorpid
@squadgamerz3981
@squadgamerz3981 3 жыл бұрын
MAGE MET CANDICE ALOT THESE GAMES👀
@yeahme437
@yeahme437 3 жыл бұрын
the hunter thing is just old machine gun priest
@ipsyc
@ipsyc 3 жыл бұрын
This deck has the potential for greatness... but it will be a while until nerfs for other cards optimization and maybe the mini expansion
@RaidsEpicly
@RaidsEpicly 3 жыл бұрын
I love the idea that this is actually the overpowered meta defining deck, it just didn't look good here at all because Trump can't resist that TASTY value.
@johanboen1474
@johanboen1474 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you can just make a deck with with a bunch of draw cards trying to get sorcerer's apprentice and sanctum chandler and ignite and just inifinitely cast ignite
@ZAYKONN
@ZAYKONN 3 жыл бұрын
His tought process is valid but his decision making is giving me an anneurism.
@Kazeumi
@Kazeumi 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like you should be spending spells to complete this quest ASAP. This is not about efficiency, efficiency is slinging spells with +3 spell damage active. You should be using spells on your minions if you have to. Especailly, since you had just played a hunter deck that played barely any minions. I mean, sometime it is entertaining, but if I suck at HS and can tell you aren't making correct choices, something is wrong.
@jamesmaguire9152
@jamesmaguire9152 3 жыл бұрын
Ignite + shambler is a neat combo
@sunbleachedangel
@sunbleachedangel 3 жыл бұрын
Technically "fewer" is the correct one but "less" is being used more and more and, you know, if enough people say it that way then I guess it's correct
@entropie-3622
@entropie-3622 3 жыл бұрын
Considering that it is customary to use "less" when talking about monetary costs it is not surprising that it is also used in this context. As I understand it the idea is that when quantifying something (eg. height, monetary wealth, mana) with units (meter, cent, mana crystal), even though the units may be countable, it is still okay to use "less" because the thing that is being quantified is not countable (even though the units are).
@dandan4092
@dandan4092 3 жыл бұрын
Your defence is terrified
@robm6726
@robm6726 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to these quests in wild where I have spells like marked shot and frost bolt :)
@MDoorpsy
@MDoorpsy 3 жыл бұрын
It seems Trump made the same mistake Kibler did with his Fire Mage deck. Getting distracted by the infinite damage of Ignite, and building your deck like a fatigue deck, when this deck NEEDS burn.
@zongopbongo
@zongopbongo 3 жыл бұрын
This entire video was painful to watch
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