Question to S.N. Goenka About Krishnamurti

#buddha #vipassana #krishnamurti

[@criss2842]

Without Vipassana K's teachings would be nothing but confusion to me. Now his words are so clear and everything he says makes perfect sense. These two Saints have been the greatest spiritual influence in my life and I owe them both a massive debt of gratitude for helping me to realize and understand true happiness. I find they compliment each other so wonderfully, May they both enjoy the merits of their service to Humankind.

[@zeynelbalkanc3726]

Yeah same for me, but also vipassana without K s teachings about observing without any motive would take much more time to realize for me that i should let go of any effort to run away from reality

[@zeynelbalkanc3726]

Of course vipassana includes that i should face what reality is but K shows you so much way and examples of how you generally do it in your life and you can see yourself decieving yourself so clear that you cannot deny the fact and you are in the first step to the truth because you finally realized you dont know anything you are just full of ideas of others and havent been able to take responsibility in the caos of not knowing

[@rudeman300]

Well said brother. I am experiencing quite the same.. The irony is Krishnamurti taught all his life to make them understand about losing philosophy and the toxicity of gurudom and live a life observing the truth as it is.. but ppl became his disciples and turned his speeches/teaching into ‘philosophy’. 😅

[@chakrasubedi878]

I'm New for Krishna murti 's listener but old student of vipassana meditation so easy for me to understand his teaching 'he explaining when people do satti pathana course then start to understand his teaching

[@WhenTheLightnessFall]

Same to me, brother.

[@Givingvoicedoco]

In 1984 I got to see Krishnamurti in Varanasi in India i .I had spent a many months at Dhamagiri practicing Vipassana under the guidance of S N. Goenka Krishnamurti when he spoke challenged everyone in the room to let go .I was sitting with group of Vipassana friends.and he challenged us to what we were observing .He said said we had to let the observer die. Somebody said to you mean to die like a corpse and he said you all make me want to cry .He had eyes like diamonds .One of my Vippasana friend said quite wisely that Krishnamurti was implying not to play the sensation game that Goenka always warned was a trap .But to be in the.moment with attachment to what arises Goenka had very strong Metta or compassionate love for all beings demonstrated by teaching Vipassana in jails as well as being non sectarian I recomend the documentary Doing Time doing Vippasana. I am now 65 and have.alot of gratitude when I was young I got to meet these two remarkable men .

[@trueindian975]

so are you doing vipassana?? since when you are doing it plz tell me and what are the changes in you life happened

[@CrazySamycraft]

And the most shocking part is that S.N Goenka bought Vipassana in India after a gap 2000 years as 500 years after Buddha vipassana was forgotten in India.

[@praveensingada]

​@@CrazySamycraft its a lie , goenka techniqe is not taught by Buddha

[@nikhilvr917]

Sir, i am glad that you brought the point, observer has to die....and it can die only in attention not otherwise, all other efforts to die are a play of thought and mind ...when observer dies then observing without the observer comes....

[@praveensingada]

@@nikhilvr917 Basically you are doing concentraion based exercise , concentraton on objects , here objects are senses and breath . you mean by pioneering in that you will get nirvana .

[@Rimbaud578z]

"You know, you should never meditate in public, or with another, or in a group: you shoul should meditate only in solitude, in the quite of the night or in the still, early morning. When you meditate in solitude, it must be solitude. You must be completely alone, not following a system, a method, repeating words, pursuing a thought, or shaping a thought according to your desire". - Krishnamurti's Notebook.

[@aniketbelhekar5487]

I practiced vipassana but when I read j krishnamurthy only I could progress in it, krishnamurthy is unique personality

[@contactpjoshi123]

Wow

[@nikhildudeja7287]

He is amazing 😍

[@International-indic.]

What have you learnt? What conclusion.

[@tjpia1345]

Really vipassana is applied krishnamurthy. After completing 2 vipassana courses I can now understand what K was saying. He was a very wise, and enlightened person. Journey with him is always helpful to understand the habit pattern of mind. His teachings are very similar to Buddha's teaching. His teachings always help me to strengthen myself in dhamma.

[@gouthamr5691]

will Vipassana meditation help introverts ?

[@tjpia1345]

@@gouthamr5691 Yes

[@earlybuddhism2600]

@@gouthamr5691 It does actually, it has helped me and my friend since we both are introverts. Listen to this video from 12:12 kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6nYZX6aardkeqs

[@EnSabahNur-ir5mw]

give us the technique otherwise u are just lying

[@nikhilapte1179]

@@gouthamr5691 haha, if you understand Vipassana correctly....then actually you ll just go beyond the concept or introvert and extrovert.....and when you look back at your self later....you ll realize how silly you were and just smile.

[@TcSrinivas]

What I understood from K's teachings, you don't have to close your eyes, sit and meditate or observe breathing. Just live like any other animal or living creature..your day to day life is meditation when you live with awareness, attention ...without any attachment...no need to concentrate or make an effort

[@kokyawmetta1498]

But you still need a formal training of your mind to break the habit pattern of mind. By sitting meditation you have more impact on your mental habbit pattern. Dont get me wrong you can meditate 24/7 without sitting on cushion. But it does not have as much impact as sitting meditation. Trust me. Try it and see the difference. It sounds like u have not had vipassana mediation training.

[@ashrafulhaque8759]

J.K. was one of a kind. He just shakes you out of your little self - like there is no tomorrow. I have been going around listening to various teachers for 40 years. It's not who is similar to or different from whom. It's not even who is the best. It's who impresses upon you the most... to the point when you come to a full stop, and start walking your own path. J.K. was that person for me.

[@Rajeshkumar-qc5ge]

Listening 👂 how to swim 🏊 without touching water won’t help us when we’re in ocean 🌊 ...

[@aquickfoo4256]

Great example.

[@Amrit289]

But without observing the whole process of swimming, you can't swim ever

[@madhukiranattivilli2321]

JK asked the audience in every session of his to practically explore within themselves whatever he was talking. He didn't promote a listening discourse. Almost every video in JK's official yt channel are like this. That's why they are slow.

[@mukeshchoudhary5741]

@@Amrit289 right..!!

[@kiyu563]

This is revered Goenka Guruji's example from English morning discourse of 11th day.

[@TheRiboka]

From what I heard, Krishna didn't deny techniques and their utility, but he denied their ability to lead one to truth because that is something personal. You could practice techniques, develop abilities, unlock powers, but if you don't know what you are and what your motives are, what's the point? And what makes you think you won't use it for selfish and destructive purposes? That's what I've managed to extract. Of course, I don't really know the person and these things

[@tuansondinh4664]

Still K handed out a method to us: Observing without judgment and motives. Which is the same thing being done in Vipasanna. Edit: It's a special method because I don't necessarily have to practice it.

[@Sidtube10]

Very nice to hear the full story of their meeting. Thanks for sharing!!!

[@lakshminarayanankv5714]

wish the meeting Goenka and JK got recorded audio-visually

[@Sidtube10]

@@lakshminarayanankv5714 Yeah. Even audio would have sufficed. I have some issues with some of the claims being made although in essence it seems possible!!

[@lakshminarayanankv5714]

@@Sidtube10 i trust Goenkaji...though I knew him much much later than JK.... and so, even if there is no audio/video, I go by what he said

[@THEBOSS-sy3jm]

Goenka is self obsessed person, but zero se start karne ke liye sahi h.

[@JagatBaxi]

Irrespective of what they said, true wisdom comes when one experiences himself, not only by listening or reading. So, take any path and experience it.

[@mikeq5807]

Few are people like yourself who understand. I agree wholeheartedly.

[@chinglau6766]

I read Krishnamurti's books and went to the 10 days Vipassana mediation camp once, and I already felt both their teachings are similar in some way. Now I am glad to know they actually met and accepted each other.

[@Gaurav.P0]

They never met with each other and JK was against any techniques or meditation.

[@contactpjoshi123]

@@Gaurav.P0 are you suggesting that Goyankaji is lieing here?

[@Gaurav.P0]

@@contactpjoshi123 This video is a fake video. This is not Goenkaji's voice.

[@emendatus1]

You will be free from a tree when you are ripe. If you are not ripe you wont be free. It doesnt matter how many hours you listen to Krisnamurti.

[@mikeq5807]

Agree. You will understand when you are ready. The wisdom of the ages is within you.

[@Smart_DJ_Bro]

@@mikeq5807 I think it is not mere understanding it, spirituality brings it to your experiential level.

[@mikeq5807]

@@Smart_DJ_Bro Both statements are true. One understands when the time is right, and one proceeds at one's level of understanding.

[@thuvakman]

No technique, No effort, No ladder: All ARE as they are: fully enlightened. Some are aware of it. Om.

[@pimpilikaa]

Jai Ambe What are you saying? There's an absolute difference between being aware of enlightenment and not being aware of enlightenment.

[@thuvakman]

@@pimpilikaa Yes. That’s awareness.

[@pardislatifi7544]

honestly the only 2 people who could ever touch my stupid arrogant violent heart was these 2 people

[@nikhilapte1179]

The whole life we live is just mind games, all of it. some say we are sleeping and doing things unconsciously. Vipassana brings us inline with real living...... details can be learned while doing the 10 days course. sab ka mangal ho.

[@playful1]

💐🙏💝🧘‍♂️ It is said that Krishnamurti was a woman named Krisha Gautami in Gautam Buddha's time, got initiated by the Buddha after she failed to bring few sesame seeds from a deathless house and realised that Buddha played a trick on her to make her realise. From then onwards it took 6 more lives for her to get fully Enlightened as J. Krishnamurti in the time span of 2600 years.

[@karankamble558]

It's Kissa Gautami not krisha he Got enlightened during the time of buddha

[@playful1]

@@karankamble558 Kissa name became Krishna like Yadav was once Yadu. And, there are ways and ways to pronouncing. ♥️

[@sachinawareness4335]

How do u know sir ??

[@playful1]

@@sachinawareness4335 its a well known fact around the spiritual world around.

[@sachinawareness4335]

@@playful1 but I asked how do u get to know ...read somewhere...or said by someone ...i know k has some connection with buddha

[@theequanimitymind3343]

Thanks for this video actually I was confused now I am happy Thanksgiving again

[@kiyu563]

Wonderful subject handled. Pujya Guruji told the truth about respected J.Krushnamurthi ji.

[@bhupeshsharma4249]

The two great person of the earth.

[@ThoughtfulSingingwithJayesh]

Only two honest and genuine people in this whole business market of spirituality

[@AmulSharad]

Thanks for the video. The excerpt is actually helpful.

[@pratik6342]

J.K ❤

[@naveenswarnkar4180]

Only J.K. No other one. No one like J. K. 💐

[@narendrashukla4201]

whether truth is ever seen by one of the method of meditation, Vipsyana? we can get peace of mind , but is it enough? our soul is agree for this? For the truth all kind of method, process are not to be given up? J.K. is saying so.

[@peaceful865]

I did meditation and came to knw... What actually buddha taught us. Thankyou to goenka guruji. Krishnamurti sir i only had seen his videos..but his looks and voice made me realise that he actually does know meditation correctly..becz it had changed him to a peaceful person. I used to listen osho too. His voice is good he plays with words very well.. He correctly pointed wrong in front and hence brahmins hindus and Christians opposed him But......regarding meditation he doesn't know anything. Der is no views of real peace real meditation. Cravings are like addictions has to be submerged slowly and killed slowly...but his attitudes is to raise that. So i totally disagree osho in meditation techniques. I even heard of shree2 ravishankar and even tried for few times. Butits a total waste...he is all just money minded person. He plays with money everywhere. Even my batchmates went to him and... Gave alot of money.. But they all are submerged inbetween toward way to peace . Other than that his role is toward hinduism religion spread and involved with political party too. He did campaigning for bjp in my area. I don't think any spiritual leader do that. He is total shit. Even they do small parties to create der world to attract new commers in der group. And one more thing he stealed.... "Art of living" word from goenka guruji's speech and now doing business with that pure phrase of him. Spirituality is nonreligious, non-political, just a way toward peace. Goenka gurujis meditation too i had accepted after i applied it in my life and it had changed my life. I was changed from depressed /suicidal to happy balanced person. My views are according to my experiences and logical thinking. Rest is up to you. Mangal ho. 🙏

[@kiyu563]

Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu.

[@gauravtejpal8901]

May all beings be happy 😊

[@TokyoShemp]

Disgusting untrue smears on Krishnamurti continue to increase.

[@luxaeterna3246]

But Krisnamurti never gave the key of observing sensations. He just said "observe your mind, fear, yourself" which is very abstract. And difficult to do.

[@mikeq5807]

Self-observation is easy. Sit in silence. Insights and epiphanies will come.

[@EsmagaSapos]

@@mikeq5807 It's so simple, people won't ever do it. It's not romantic in any way, it's the complete opposite of what they're raised to do. It has to have a name, a guideline, and finally a group of practitioners, only after all that people will start doing it, because they have a static, fixed thing, they can put all their fears in that thing, belonging, achieving, progress, all their fears.

[@mikeq5807]

@@EsmagaSapos All in their own time. That's the essence of compassion, understanding them by understanding ourselves. It's always perplexing to the novice, to the uninitiated. It's like riding a bicycle or learning to walk. It's easy, but the initial stages make it appear impossible, hopelessly elusive. Life is the infallible master teacher. She fails no one.

[@EnSabahNur-ir5mw]

you can't observe your mind. Because there's no difference between the observer and the observed, hence there can't be any observation. So saying observe yourself is playing games

[@mikeq5807]

@@EnSabahNur-ir5mw You can observe yourself, absolutely. I draw from direct experience, not from hearsay.

[@Self-knowledgewithsujit]

Krishnamurti's way was of jnana yoga and goenka emphasizes more on Raja yoga.

[@Gaurav.P0]

Krishnamurti's way was not jnana yoga. I think, you concluded this by watching Sadhguru videos. Krishnamurti's doesn't had any way ,method or techniques.

[@Self-knowledgewithsujit]

@@Gaurav.P0 if you don't know about jnana yoga, don't comment here. Krishnamurti way is jnana yoga.

[@Gaurav.P0]

@@Self-knowledgewithsujit Lol...I damn sure, you don't know about Krishnamurti then don't judge him or comment about him. I very well know about jnana yoga, bhakti yoga and Karma yoga. This all are shitty techniques to attain enlightenment 😂

[@Self-knowledgewithsujit]

@@Gaurav.P0 ok as you say and wish. 😂😂😂...

[@ujwaldubey2046]

@@Self-knowledgewithsujit then u don't even know what k taught... K just said "truth is a pathless land " All gyan yoga, karma yoga, bhakti yoga r stupidity ...

[@nexstory]

I am either lost or the only one who has so far found the truth that none of these talks, teachers, practices, non-practices, or whatever have achieved their transformative aims. Look at the world of human behavior with its violent narratives and palliative remedies that we collectively subscribe to and are mindlessly invested in today. In our pitiful attempts to escape the field of secular destructiveness, we imagine there is a "go within" to make the noise of our existence go away as if "the self" were a cancer or other pernicious disease. For a time, through practice, workshops, retreats, and/or emotional surrender to an influencer/guru, thought can be neutralized, and the mind made clear and calm. Still, to what purpose if the temple is burning to the ground. What I have just said is a metaphor where the individual (you and me) are sitting on our cushions, listening to a talk, or affirming our presence in the "now" as if it were a piece of real estate one could purchase for the price of a book. All the while, Rome, in the form of our socioeconomic, geopolitical, and ecosystem, is at varying stages of burning down. We are the field, and as proof, can you separate yourself from your computer, the store-bought food you eat, the air you breathe, the clothing you wear, the language you speak, and your cell phone? Can you be completely honest with yourself without rejecting this incisive point of view? We are the field. We are its education, health care, politics, science, arts, militaries, technologies, etc. We are the makers of weapons, drugs, alcohol, junk food porn, and every form of distraction as enterprise, who then seek also as enterprise to find some miraculous cure, holistic or spiritual remedy for the same. What is missing in all of this is clarity, vibrancy, curiosity, and co-creative purpose, where we come together every day throughout the year to actively train ourselves in the arts of transformation with the same, if not greater intensity as we have historically trained ourselves in the arts of war. Anyway, I doubt that anyone reading this rant has a clue or interest in what I have just written. Perhaps your Om chanting is enough to turn the tide so that our children can live happy and healthy lives for generations to come.

[@samyakkamble4294]

Haha, i agree with you man. Clarity and compasion is what will save humanity. As long as people are trapped in their little deluded idea of self, its chaos everwhere.

[@noone5461]

K also reached us to to listen basically instead of paying attention to the body sensations such a breath you pay attention the words as long you heard the sound as it is meditation takes place He also taught to watch things without naming it -so the same thing Or to observe thoughts -observer is the observed

[@amitgahmar]

He was not repeating no, go and read commentry on leaving each chapter is unique revelation ALL techniques are repetition but all repetition are not technique observing urself is not as the content which u observe keep changing

[@srisri3458]

Observing breathing is a technique in itself. It's difficult to believe J K accepted what Mr Goenka told him about Vipassana course . JK was probably too tired to dismiss Vipassana technique.

[@nguyenduc703]

are you J.K ? or are you a man, clouded by his thought ?

[@furrystep]

@@nguyenduc703 right. K only said to observe thoroughly, and go beyond thought. What else is "mindfullness"?

[@baitman2368]

@@furrystep in other words to let mind go where it wants to go but learning to don't give importance to thought... Like a river that flows with no ones help.

[@pimpilikaa]

@@baitman2368 you sound like a smartass, like for real!

[@soniatiwari9986]

@@baitman2368 like no identifying with the mind

[@lovepeace7890]

When I read all the comments below, it's clear that no one has understood why JK has asked to reject all authorities, gurus, methods, and techniques. sad.. no body has understood...

[@truePac47]

No meditation is related to jk because he denied meditation because if you want to awaken Kundalini then meditation is needed but if you don't want that than being completely aware is the real meditation the choiceless awareness.

[@wrangler3287]

Goyenkaji doesn't seem to understand J.Krishnamurti. He didn't realize that he was talking to Buddha.

[@maharsan4441]

When used “saintly “ to describe someone, he is using intentionally to distinguish from “enlightened “

[@praveensingada]

​@@maharsan4441@goenka is semi literate . he is not enlightened. he is full of ego .

[@kunalkumar3591]

i have also found krishnamurthy told to observe but there was no technique here in vipassana there is technique but it's not a techniqe but a way of living.

[@komaldedhia61]

Agree, Vipassana is not a technique but a natural process to be aware of the true nature of what one calls "I" which naturally breaks the past habit pattern of craving, aversion and ignorance.

[@kunalkumar3591]

@@komaldedhia61 indeed, have you tried vipassana

[@Gaurav.P0]

@@kunalkumar3591 Vipassana is a technique because initially you have to observe everything or your thoughts deliberately which is a difficult task for beginners. Then it becomes automatic or natural way of living. So, yes... Indeed Vipassana is a method, technique or process which you have to practice with passion and determination.

[@rajeshtol2117]

People do couple of 10 day vipassana courses & start talking about it. This is very similar to someone learning basic mathematics like summation,substraction, multiplication, division & then start talking about mathematics. Making casual comment that maths is nothing but these 4 steps, go on practicing, you will get PhD one day & Nobel prize on next day. Come on wake up

[@tommy-dz5dg]

Bavathu saravamangalam...........

[@chaitrar9211]

❤

[@rajindergoyal9990]

Modern Buddha only one jiddu Krishnamurti sir

[@chappakurminaidu6621]

J. K. Is tru teacher in worldwide, fast of all , freedom meens not following Ani one

[@virupakshakumbar4203]

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏to both gurus

[@somdixit4331]

Sir please provide us video meeting between Goenka Ji & krishnamurti. if u have?

[@earlybuddhism2600]

I don't have the video, sorry

[@DJ-ti8lm]

@@earlybuddhism2600 J Krishnamurthy is Enlightened... This guy is still on the path... There is lot of difference between two....

[@earlybuddhism2600]

@@DJ-ti8lm Indeed he is on the path to become a Samyaksambuddha in the future.

[@DJ-ti8lm]

@@earlybuddhism2600 Everyone is on the path nothing just Goenka.... He is a fraud who fooled u made money.... He is a cult idiot like Rajneesh..

[@kiyu563]

@@DJ-ti8lm Pujya Guruji of course is an enlightened person, he's at a very higher stage of liberation path, but it's his modesty that is shown by him ,telling that I'm only a path Walker. It is only the sign of a real enlightened person.

[@rusher9864]

he simply wants u to inquire yourself and question every pattern of your brain and society

[@ujwaldubey2046]

No vipasna is able to understand k... K was very clear at his points.. He never spoke anything for that he would have to deny later... Search what osho said for him...

[@praveensingada]

True , k is enlightened. Goenka is semiliterate , saying opposite to what k said .

[@antarshakti3093]

Without techniques mind cannot be subdued. It is not easy for majority to meditate just by observing. All technics are for the mind. Until the mind is transended one can never know what meditation is. If you transended the mind you can understand all teachings and teachers, as all lead to the same Truth.

[@clodhopper-dodo]

The weak mind invents technique which helps to carry its own weakness under a delusion of getting strong bit by bit. This trick leads to perpetual misery with hope of getting stronger tomorrow. That's why self improvement industry is the greatest hoax.

[@VitaminM1]

Because he got inspiration from buddha's teaching , sorry sir you are attached to buddha K is not inspired by buddha, and you don't realise what budda really is nor Krishnamurthy, that's why you are comparing..

[@dhananjayCB]

www.buddhanet.net/bvk_study/bvk002.htm

[@ritesharora6032]

K didnot say to observe without any reaction. he said observe reactions

[@gurdeepsingh1189]

You are conditioned to react sir so in Vipassana you accept the reality that u reacted and see the sensations as it is objectively

[@ritesharora6032]

@@gurdeepsingh1189 vipasna will lead you nowhere. observation dispassionately of thoughts is meditation

[@gurdeepsingh1189]

@@ritesharora6032 when you see reality as it is , that's called Vipassana . Your breathing and body sensations are connected to your mind for e.g. you have different breathing patterns for different emotions like anger or fear , and j krishnamurti ji himself said every technique is repetition but every repetition is not technique bcz your bodily sensations are changing everytime so when you see something which is constantly changing then you observe it with awareness

[@ritesharora6032]

@@gurdeepsingh1189 but watching breath is a technique. Krishnamurti teacings was choiceless awareness not awareness of breathing

[@gurdeepsingh1189]

@@ritesharora6032 it will be called a technique if i am controlling my breath but if i am watching it in its natural way then i am observing it . Bcz breathing flow changes naturally when you observe and observing a constantly changing thing needs awareness it can't be mechanical

[@clodhopper-dodo]

These two people both not alive today are only people who are perhaps going to change lives of future paranoid generation. Otherwise there is no hope

[@samsarmadi749]

Looks like Most of the human beings still needs some one to follow & confuse themselves by THEIR technics !

[@narwaldeepak]

क्या आप इस वीडियो को हिंदी में translate करके अपलोड कर सकते हो प्लीज

[@earlybuddhism2600]

sorry bro

[@shankarkhavadiya9134]

Hindi sub title ke shat kijiye bhai

[@preciousreading1934]

अबस्य , लेकिन पेमेन्ट कौन करेगा ?

[@henryreese7236]

never said remain in the present moment

[@laganmahurat]

Jk need not to help any kind of gurus like budhha,,,,, jkdoesn't follow the usual rules and practices which made by so called Spiritual leaders,,,,,, he is the most intelligent and enlightened human,,,, he doesn't need any outer agency to enlighten,,,,, he is as similar as or more conscious than Krishna, Jesus, budha, etc

[@martinratcliffe5987]

Ye bahut acha hai

[@dhruvshukla5591]

🙏🙏

[@Dhamtim]

This Mr. Goenka is a man of shallow understanding. He has to be born again to understand j. Krishnamurti. Such dull people cannot understand the depth and height of Krishna ji. Try next life .

[@immortalquotes5620]

Who said k got inspiration from buddha

[@abhishekranjan9744]

Exactly!!

[@sachindivakar632]

let SUN take its own course ,after (Started)learning Advait Vedant & J K, i thought both r saying same . They don't want to make Bondage to become Free

[@MuharremSari]

@@zoox101 He was a Buddha, he was the teacher. And no Buddha or any other books or anything I read past 5 years about those things has said the truth which is " thought is the reaction of memory" and none has described reality as it is as this man does. he is original, the truth he said was expressed by many, but what he says is not contaminated and distorted, cause it's transmitted as he explain. So this man is a fountain of deep pure insight to life, go and drink. When one understand him one become Buddha, one become K, the one expressing what is. No teacher has shown clearly the path to be no one. In the real sense of it. K shows it, his teachings obviously, if understood, make you a teacher. And then you observe beauty of understanding oneself operate on you and mutate your brain, which make you a sensitive and intelligent being, as the great one was. And then you had insight into things. Then begin the beauty in man, the only life worth to live. Life of great creativity

[@sampatshinde4897]

traslet in hindi what goyanka guruji said about krishnamurti

[@AlokSingh19903]

Sampat Shinde संछिप्त में :: ￰कृष्णमूर्ति ने गुर का इसलिए विरोध किया क्युकी उन्होंने देखा गुरुता के नाम पे व्यापार चल रहा है ll जब मेरी ( गोयनका श्री ) कृष्णजी से वार्ता हुई और मैंने अपनी विपासना की विधिया बताई जो की श्रद्धा पर नहीं बल्कि अनुभव पर आधारित विधि है तो वो वो प्रसन्न हुए और कहा की इसमें उन्हें कोई आपत्ति नहीं है ll

[@wrangler3287]

@@AlokSingh19903 Translation is wrong. Krishnamurti denied all techniques.

[@d.l.7399]

OK, that' advaita, nothing else. Maybe you had some guru, are ripe for advaita, than you come to krishnamurti, ramana maharishi, and, understand, osho

[@zoltanszlavik9838]

He was disgusted not because of the many gurus and technics , just because its all absurd.

[@rajeshdabas7493]

Truth is the pathless land, techniques are worthless .just see,watch.

[@Xztjhyb7]

UG Krishnamurti had plenty criticism of the hypocrisy of J J Krishnmurti eg his sexual exploitation of young girls. Maybe not true.

[@priyagunaraj6919]

Well... you met MR. K and you didn't understand him at all. SAD!

[@Rajeshkumar-qc5ge]

Listening 👂 how to swim 🏊 without touching water won’t help us when we’re in ocean 🌊 ...

[@eveningtales2547]

@@Rajeshkumar-qc5ge idiot j krishnamurti is a truth himself. mediocre people like u can't understand him.

[@Rajeshkumar-qc5ge]

@@eveningtales2547 U understood K and u calling me idiot? But I’ll call u sir I’ll ask apologize if my words hurt you. Love all respect all. May you be happy 🌹

[@eveningtales2547]

@@Rajeshkumar-qc5ge please understand word is not a thing.

[@Rajeshkumar-qc5ge]

@@eveningtales2547 I agree

[@mindfulness9725]

Mr S N was just a teching techniques, he was a pioneer of Vipassna but no match for those on top. He has talked about all gurus and tried to up ante for Vipassna. He was a good teacher but not achiever. He seem to have validation from achievers.

[@kiyu563]

He was an achiever of the topmost spiritual level, which no other can even think of, this achievement develops a modesty in a person, a state of mind without ego and self admiration. So, in worldly matters you won't find pujya Goenka ji to take part in a race to prove himself superior.He kept on his mission continued in order to make maximum people benefitted from this wonderful path of liberation. He openly told the name of Bagwan Buddha as the pioneer of it, this requires a courage ,which you can't gather unless you experience nirvana at least once. Today 70% gurus are there who attend Vipassana course, learn it, and under the name of some popular scripture teach the same. Because if they take Tathagata's name, their followers in India will reduce in a formidable quantity their popularity and income will fall down excessessivly.

[@ranirathi3379]

lol!! if he sought validation, he'd charge a hell of a lot money for his Vipassana courses worldwide which get full within 15 minutes of being available for applying. if he sought validation, he'd make it easier and dilute it so many more could come - the BIGGEST factor that deters people from their first 10-day Vipassana course is it is the toughest thing on earth. if he sought validation, there wud be cult followings from his name, like Sadhguru and other fake babas.

[@EnSabahNur-ir5mw]

ha ha ha I'm laughing my### off. Why he is wearing glasses if he has done Vipassana correctly... lol....😆😆😆 The main Motive of Meditation in Buddha's teaching is to Heal the body and to remove suffering. So it's very clear whatever technique he was practicing was actually wrong

[@MHSUPER30]

Ignorance 🤣🤣

[@EnSabahNur-ir5mw]

@@MHSUPER30 yes you are ignorant to appreciate Truth

[@preciousreading1934]

I had been pitying Krishnamurti confirming that he was fooling himself as spiritual guru and must had been stopped eating others brain . Here now Goenka delivered the verdict that he indeed was very wrong but at least received the vipassnaa in the end . So are Rajanish, Bibekananda and not to mentions the rest.

[@rocking4joy]

dude don’t bring vivekananda here, he was way older , and he wrote about similar techniques way before these guys.

[@preciousreading1934]

If you are a follower of Bibekaananda then confirm that what level of enlightmet did he achieved in comparison to Buddha, Kabir, Nank, Padmasambhav and Milarepa ? What did happen in his samaadhi? Explain that. And rembember that never use word 'DUDE' when you address other.

[@preciousreading1934]

what level of enlightenment did he achieve in comparison Gorakhanth, Nanak, Kabira, Milarepa, Padmsambhab, Sankaracharya, Buddha...? Explain in full. Addressing with some one with 'DUDE' is an offence. Do not even use it to call you own dad.

[@bowindbox1132]

@@preciousreading1934 What's wrong with dude

[@bowindbox1132]

@@preciousreading1934 I am not a follower of anyone, just uttering facts. I think you have a very shallow understanding of eastern philosophy. Understand the nature of words like "enlightenment" better before throwing them here and there. Otherwise, you would not ask questions like, what did someone achieve, it's an inward thing. It's not a degree you hang on the wall. Look inward. Also, I think you don't understand the concept of offence, the offence is what you derive from a word like you did from this word "dude". Someone might not take offence in the same word. It's a widely used online colloquial, and I would keep using it, unless I know I am offending the other person, like in this case I did (unknowingly). Also, my conversation with my father is something you are not privy of and I would suggest you also keep your conversation with your father to yourself. About reference to Vivekananda (not with "B", only in Bengali it's ব in sanskrit transliteration is always V), read Rajyoga. He cited very similar technique and called it প্রত্যাহার (pratyahaar).

[@nikhilkrishnan9]

hilarious ! this person first read a book and then had a chance to listen to krishnamurti for three days, and yet he understood nothing what Krishnamurti meant !!!!. Says something about this SN Goenka's so called "mysticism" more that anything.

[@earlybuddhism2600]

I'm glad you understand Krishnamurti's words.

[@akshatd1162]

You might know SN Goenka by reading Krishnamurti , but you will never experience Krishnamurti without SN Goenka. The thoughtless state of mind where there’s no movement of thought but without any effort to cease thinking can only be achieved when the mind (and not the brain)is cleared of its past impressions. As K used to say, you experience a thought /emotion/feeling coming , you observe it without reacting to it and then it transforms into something totally different- Vipassana teaches exactly that. How to be aware of thoughts coming up, experience them without reacting and then see them transform. I’ll be happy to assist you if there’s any clarification needed. Give this a chance brother it might be what you’ve been looking for. Peace and happiness to you.

[@kiyu563]

@@akshatd1162a perfect answer.

[@noone5461]

@@akshatd1162 you can experience What K was talking about without knowing him at all, it is just state of mind that you can experience when you observe your thoughts with out any effort, with great deal of attention to every single thought you can see how they arise, when you are observing your thoughts for long enough time( it took about 2-3 hours, now it takes 5-15 minutes) you become to realize that you are not your thoughts, you are that witnesses them, it is great discovery you can experience how ego gets dissolved by paying great deal of attention to the thoghts , I have never experienced same by observing my breathing, there is always ego remain

[@omprakashjaiswar5045]

@@noone5461 actually vipassana is not about observing breath that's the misconception people have. that is actually called anapana meditation vipassana is actually about eradicating the habit pattern of the mind of craving and aversion from the deepest part of the mind

[@atheistismisthebestgoogle548]

OSho is the best in last 100 year's.. including j krisnnamuriti...

[@vinodlama3526]

Even Buddha might have been inspired by someone when he discovered the Vipassana.Was it authentic?Lets imagine

[@07-ananayasharma59]

Buddha was not inspired by a person.He was inspired by seeing sufferings of the people around him.Then he undertook the responsibility of finding the perfect technique to end these sufferings

[@Anton680x]

The "Teachings" are not his... from what I understand and recall.. this is what K would say.

[@MrVijaymohansingam]

Meditation isn't a thing 😂😂😂😂

[@WhisperMintASMR]

Why do you say that?

[@martinratcliffe5987]

Of course it is. It's an approach to life. A complete commitment to life. It's one hell of a thing.

[@CR_07770]

Jk isn't in favour of Vipassana

[@downstairs5683]

False... Krishnamurti will never say so...

[@NEXAWAY]

have you ever done vipassana

[@downstairs5683]

I have 3 times...

[@downstairs5683]

@@NEXAWAY I have done it 3 times

[@NEXAWAY]

How do you see vipassana as?

[@downstairs5683]

@@NEXAWAY to see things as it is but I have lots of questions.. N what goyenka Sir is saying is jiddu accepted vipasanna easily that's fake.. K never accept things so easily.. You can see one video on discussion about vipasanna with k.. He questions many things.. But goyenka sir is saying he accepted very easily that's not accepted by me

[@shailendradhaddha2587]

Rubbish

[@dashsany]

Keishnamurti was trained abroad to defame hinduism he himself never know or experienced any spiritualism .you will never hear him defaming Islam or Christianity he was paid to target hindu beleifs.

[@babuoffice4153]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@kabirdas5572]

He was spreading advaita's teachings indirectly and you are saying he was defaming hinduism. Do you even know what hinduism is?

[@akhilgada602]

Not true, my friend. JK was actually against all the blind religious believes and rites and rituals which keep people blinded from knowing the truth about themselves.

[@nikhildudeja7287]

Not true ,he criticized every religion

[@DawnyDarko]

@@kabirdas5572 that's the problem. Most hindus are blindly following meaningless rituals, judgements, demi gods, caste, money and have forgotten what ancient Hinduism was actually about - non-duality, being present, peace, love and realisation of Oneness. The brahmins/pandits have created this system to enslave the below to keep themselves in power. You do not need any hierarchy to realise Oneness. The hindu religion has become a money making and power retaining scam and led people to lose their way and become blind. Brahmins have always tried to violently repress, murder and massacre anything that challenged their position - Buddhism, Sikhism. The reason Buddhism left India is because the Hindus massacred them in a power grab so they had to flee to China/Lanka. People went to Buddhism as it didn't rob them of money for pointless rituals like the brahmins were doing. Ironically, India has the wheel of Ashoka in their flag. Sikhs gave historically helped Hindus from Muslim oppression but they themselves get repressed by them. Sikhs celebrate Bandi Chhor Divas instead of Diwali as Guru Hargobind Singh released 52 hindu rulers whom Jahangur was going to force them to convert to Islam. This would have totally changed India and the Sikhs knew this. No acknowledgement is given to them for this and they are constantly told they are a branch of Hinduism, when they are actually an evolution on Advaita Vedanta but with many other influences so a religion in their own right. It may be viewed that Sikhism is the highest form of ancient hinduism/non-dualistic Vedism - hence the struggle with the hindu traditionalists. There is genetic research in 2013 by Harvard geneticist David Reich showing that the caste system as found today is only 2000yrs old when the migration of the people from the West (Aryans/Persians) started. Before then everyone mixed together.

[@KAALNEMI59]

❤️

[@manmathahaldar9221]

🙏🙏🙏