QUICK CHANGE GEAR BOX SOUTH BEND LATHE pt 3

This is the 7th of 8 videos featuring the 9" SOUTH BEND LATHE model C.
Be sure to watch all of them when available.
Watch this one also-- UPGRADING SOUTH BEND LATHE C to B #803 tubalcain part 1
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[@joemcgarry1106]

My dad bought a 9" model A brand new with all the bells, and whistles in 1956. I was 3 years old at the time. I learned to run that lathe long before I was old enough to shave. Dad had a real nice shop in his basement. It was a money maker for him not a hobby shop. I bought a 1948 model A for my hobby shop 20 years ago, along with a 1948 M head Bridgeport. The lathe had been rode hard, and put away wet. I used the Bridgeport to rebuild the gearbox on the lathe. Today they both operate satisfactory for me. A testament to the resiliency of American Iron. Dads shop had to be liquidated after he passed as I had no room for it. I would have liked his model "0" Moore Jig borer, the first model built. I could sit in a roller chair, and run it. Thanks for the video Lyle.

[@mrpete222]

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[@gm-lb9oe]

@@mrpete222 Hi Mr. PETE. I sure wish I had you as a shop teacher. I was watching your old video set on foundry, and mixing up the silica sand with water glass. Question for you. Could one use the stuff that you pour into your radiator antifreeze to help repair a head gasket on an engine as it has sodium silicate as the ingredient?? Wonder if it would work? I remember taking some metal/ foundry pattern stuff in grade 8 and I'm now 58years young and can't even remember what sand/ mixture one had to use for the mold? Help please :) Awesome stuff sir you are 1 amazing gentlemen such knowledge, wow

[@johnquinn3899]

Good morning Mr Pete !!! Nice refresher. John

[@christurley391]

Thanks for the video

[@G1951-w1y]

These SB lathes were a great piece of engineering. I visited the Lexington aircraft carrier now a museum dry docked in Corpus Christi TX and they have a SB in the machine shop.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you, so does the battleship, Alabama

[@johnferguson2728]

Thank you Lyle. By watching this video, I learned something about my heavy 10. I wish I had known about your SB course 10 years ago. Thanks!

[@mrpete222]

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[@RalfyCustoms]

Merry Christmas Mr Pete, thank you for all your hard work and sharing your wonderful knowledge

[@mrpete222]

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[@warrior4christ777]

You were starting to lose me with the commentary but then you got me back

[@titantitan3030]

My first experience was on a lathe like this, with straps. To change the speed, the lathe brand was Norton, then the first lathe with a semi-automatic gearbox, the name Norton box remained.Every time I see the tubalcain programs, I am delighted to remember. I have always liked inventing, my mind is always evolving, in my house I repair everything, my children and grandchildren, when something breaks, they tell their mothers, don't throw it away, grandpa, or dad, repairs it.

[@mrpete222]

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[@624Dudley]

Thank you Mr. Pete, and a very Merry Christmas to you and your kin! See you next year. 👍

[@mrpete222]

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[@chuckyounger7298]

Morning Mr. Pete... I don’t own a Southbend, but I do so enjoy your lessons... and Merry Christmas from Nevada

[@mrpete222]

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[@angelramos-2005]

Excellent video.More clear than mud.Thank you.

[@mrpete222]

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[@aaronholmes8568]

I still can't believe all this knowledge is being shared for free. Merry Christmas Mr Pete, thank you for all the education and entertainment you've provided me over the years.

[@mrpete222]

I need to start charging, L O L

[@dalebennett8169]

Merry Christmas

[@mrpete222]

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[@herbhartman7528]

Very helpful info, thanks!!

[@amosdecarmo5970]

Best wishes for a joyous Christmas filled with love, happiness and prosperity to you and your family Mr Pete! Thank you for teaching this old electrician on how to turn metal and make something useful. PS: Thanks to you and Ron Garrison videos, I am going to give it a try and machine the Stuart V10 engine casting. (On my South Bend 9 model A) Purchased last year at Florida flywheelers. (The castings) Hope to see you and your wife again there in February 2023.

[@mrpete222]

Merry Christmas, and good luck with that Stuart engine

[@alexduke5402]

I have the south bend 10 with a 4' bed. Picked it up for $300 it was very well maintained the previous owner was using it to make motorcycle parts. I've gotten pretty good at using it just playing around with it. I've made a few things we needed on the farm abd a bunch of things we didn't haha! There's something fascinating about metal. Welding, cutting, machining it's so fun to work with.

[@mrpete222]

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[@stxrynn]

Good refresher for me. I also like the flat belt on the smaller lathes like my Logan. It allows slip like the South Bend clutch to keep the crashes to an ego bruiser, not necessarily a lathe killer. I've tried to hog too much a few times and had the belt slip keep me from messing up too bad. The Sheldon and Clausing have the power to do what the idiot running them tells them to, even if it's destructive. Thanks for the class, Professor Pete!!! Keep warm up there.

[@mrpete222]

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[@carlcarlamos9055]

That lathe with the quick change gears looks like what we had in high school shop in 1966. With one teacher and 20 to 30 guys in a 45 minute class, I didn’t learn much, but I didn’t break any thing or hurt myself. Now with KZbin, there is plenty of info available. Thanks for all your posts. Take care, and have a good Holiday Season.

[@mrpete222]

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[@RRINTHESHOP]

Nice overview. My Logan is the same as the SB setup.

[@mrpete222]

🎄🎄 thank you for the nice card. And the picture of both of you?

[@danbreyfogle8486]

Merry Christmas Mr. Pete and your entire family. I'm sure you are enjoying the same blizzard that we are here in Iowa so no Studio G for sure, grin...

[@mrpete222]

It’s mighty cold here tonight. Merry Christmas.🎄🎄

[@timmienorrie]

Best wishes. Thanks for your sterling service to us metal removers. Keep those videos coming.

[@mrpete222]

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[@lathammarx1458]

Great discussion of the South Bend quick change gear box. Definitely "quicker" than swapping the change gears for sure.

[@mrpete222]

No doubt!

[@duron700r]

When I grow up, I'd love to have an oil-recirculating 9A. But I really like my once-thru oiling 9C that's a bunch older. He's been awful good to me and a real work horse. I'd been waiting decades for a good quick-change gear box explanation. That makes sense!

[@mrpete222]

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[@sharstool2251]

It is amazing how many SB9 units are out there. Merry Christmas Lyle, thank you for all the great content!

[@mrpete222]

🎄🎄 I have a very merry Christmas. And I continue to enjoy my various Shar products.

[@pault4513]

Just went and looked at my south bend and you were right about the that stud gear I had no idea thanks for the video Note im missing the 1/2 nut engagement dial assembly that i havent found yet

[@mrpete222]

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[@alro2434]

Thread chaser.

[@alexlukac8852]

Very nice machine simple ,universal lost for ever ,good casting. Most country calling Norton box ,EUROPE, SHOUTH AMERICA, only in NORTH AMERICA calling GEAR BOX. 1947 Argentina buy few SOUTH BEND LATHE came to the country for school teaching . Plus has a BOOK edition in ENGLISH and SPANISH , This Company was good business people to export machinery. The old school still shine and better then now. Saludos desde CANADA. ⚙⚽

[@mrpete222]

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[@lloydbaker7099]

Great course glad I paid attention hope one day I find one of these nice old machines for now I get by with my chineseium impressions

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[@scottjones7279]

MERRY CHRISTMAS Mr. PETE. ⛪🙏🎄

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[@jimlock3514]

Happy Christmas Mr. Pete to the shop teacher I wish I'd had! Still, I have one now. All the best keep em coming!

[@mrpete222]

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[@secondarymachine7521]

Merry Christmas, Lyle.

[@karlgoebeler1500]

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

[@mrpete222]

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[@bearsrodshop7067]

Thx Lyle for sharing. Sharing this with the young man that bought the SB 9 this October from me. It was the one I bought at last auction and resold. His sons have it all cleaned and serviced now, and hope by sharing they too will Subscribe to you and learn all about their new SB. I am sending to warm weather from TX, hope you will Enjoy (@@)! Boy, we will have 70's by this Friday,,:)> Bear.

[@mrpete222]

Happy new year

[@stevebark4873]

Sure love your videos. Very informative. I’m a retired master mechanic with a small machine shop at home. I’ve built a number of your projects my favorite of which is the float-lock vise. I enjoyed this particular video because it speaks to me about the South Bend QCGB. I have a peculiar issue with my gear train that operates the QCGB. The two reversing gears being driven by the headstock gear are different diameters. Now, i want to try my hand at some left hand threading. I would have to run the carriage in reverse to accomplish this. Wouldn’t the pitch be off? I have a 13” X 36” cat#8113C South Bend lathe.

[@mrpete222]

I do not have a 13 inch machine. But I think both of their gear should be the same diameter.

[@stevebark4873]

@@mrpete222 thanks for the reply, I thought so too. Going to try to source one and hope the detente in the handle will line up properly. Merry Christmas to you and your family.

[@Oneminutetofixit]

Making some parts the 1900s way / One minute to fix it kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqrFYX58brh2Y68

[@mrpete222]

Awesome

[@Oneminutetofixit]

@@mrpete222 I love my heavy 13. To old to have a quick change gear set though.

[@Oneminutetofixit]

@@mrpete222 Merry Christmas and Happy new years to you and your better half. I really enjoy your videos, keep it up. I let your channel loop at work as background education. I love it...🤣👍

[@brandonculver2403]

Do you have any information on old lodge and shipley lathes? Mine is an 18" 1917 model. Or maybe any tips on running these old low RPM machines mine the high rpm is 395

[@stxrynn]

I think those old lathes used carbon steel tooling. That was before high speed steel. That and the diameters you can turn don't need very high speed. Check out the antique section of practical machinist blog. There is a wealth of info in there. There was a guy from Houston that was a reference book on old iron like that. Search around, they have probably answered any question you have twice over.

[@rb63]

Good morning Mr Pete and merry Christmas really enjoy your videos I have a south bend 9 A that sits on a cabinet with 3 pull out drawers on the right and motor with pulley’s on left. Thanks for all ur videos! Happy new year

[@mrpete222]

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[@cyclebuster]

Merry Christmas!! how long before this model C becomes a model A?

[@mrpete222]

Possibly,

[@dannyl2598]

Thank you Mr Pete. When you talked about the stud gears, it made me wander if that is what is changed on my 9 inch heavy model A, when I slide a handle that sticks out of the gear cover. Any info is appreciated. Thanks.

[@billjones7327]

Merry Christmas Mr. Pete

[@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578]

Thanks for sharing

[@jerrydemas2020]

Mr. Pete. Can any other brand lathe change gears be used on the 10" Atlas?

[@mrpete222]

Not that I know of

[@bcbloc02]

What is nicer a Buick straight 8 or a Packard straight 8?

[@mrpete222]

The Buick straight eight has overhead valves. They always advertised it as valve in head. I really loved that 1951 Buick that I owned in junior college. The Packard was a flat head, probably a much older design. Have a merry Christmas Brian. It is one below zero right now.

[@ellieprice363]

My brother in law purchased a new 1951 Buick “Fireball” straight eight with Dynaflow transmission. The starter was energized by depressing the accelerator all the way down. Riding in that big black Buick was like floating on a cloud.

[@jegisshredder]

Doesn’t it say that the crossfeed is .3 times the longitudinal feed? At least on my Swedish south bend clone, the crossfeed is 1/3 of the longitudinal feed.

[@ellieprice363]

The cross feed on my Jet 12 x 36 (Taiwan) is also about 1/3 the longitudinal feed.

[@randyshoquist7726]

You are correct. You can barely see the decimal point in the video (and apparently Lyle can't see it at all) but you can find images that clearly show .3 or even .375.

[@kensherwin4544]

I'm sorry but I'm afraid I have to disagree with you. The extra credit material is not extra credit at all. It's pretty much required reading and a test WILL be given on the information covered. If the student doesn't pass, it will be more than just him that fails. Seriously, thank you so much for this series and all the other videos you've done over the years. You've been a wonderful bar setter.

[@mrpete222]

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[@joemccarthywascorrect6240]

Happy Christmas !!!

[@mrpete222]

Thank you, have a merry new year

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[@4GSR]

I fell asleep in class today!!!! You didn't catch me!!! Merry Christmas to you and your family! Did watch the extra credit. Does that count? Ken

[@mrpete222]

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[@PeterWMeek]

Crossfeed is slower than longitudinal. Check that decimal point. Point 3 times longitudinal.

[@elmarqo_3448]

In the extra credit at time 13:03 you show a picture of the gears internal to the quick change gear box. There are gears that are on the handle pivot shaft. What are they for? Merry Christmas Mr. Pete.

[@stxrynn]

The handle pivot shaft is the same as a counter shaft in a transmission. Power comes in via the gear train on the upper right, into the big gears on the stub shaft, top right (A-E). Down through the counter shaft or pivot shaft, up through the smaller gears on the left (1-8), and out to the lead screw via the stub on the upper left. Does that make sense?? Hopefully it isn't too muddy of an explanation.

[@mrpete222]

Great explanation

[@stxrynn]

@@mrpete222 Hot dog!!! I got an attaboy from the master!! Wohoooo!!!!

[@EPC-ue2ci]

Hello, I recently got a south bend model 9 B lathe. It does not have a quick change gear box but have been wondering if 1.) what modifications would I have to make to my lathe to accept a quick change gear box, ans 2. ) is it even worth it? As in, are they better or better performing?

[@alexduke5402]

In reference to the extra credit. Mine doesn't have a knob but a lever. On my South bend I've tried threading with the clutch but it only moves the lead screw at a fraction of the speed of the half nut. I guess it's not supposed to do that? With the lever i can only move it so far. Do you know of a way to take up the slack behind the apron so i can fully engage it?

[@mrpete222]

You will have to take the apron off and examine it

[@alexduke5402]

@@mrpete222 thank you I'll do that and let you know what i find

[@bwyseymail]

"An older style camera" Ha Ha But a younger style Mr. Pete!

[@mrpete222]

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[@ramiaboshammalh8089]

Thank you for this video. I wanted a close-up of these numbers. I own the same machine, but I don't have this number plate. Please photograph it in high quality so that I can print it. Another request. I want to download the brochure for this device. If you can give me a link to download it, in the end, I thank you very much

[@mrpete222]

There will be lots more videos and pictures. Forthcoming.

[@CerebralAilment]

I'll prob never run one of these - but pretty cool learning bout it. Do you teach shop by chance?

[@mrpete222]

Yes, retired

[@Sumerian_guy]

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[@MonkeyButlerLabs]

The Model N series only has one lever for changing gears on the front and then another lever coming out of the top of the gearbox. What can you teach about the operation of that system?

[@mrpete222]

I do not have one to show you

[@MonkeyButlerLabs]

@@mrpete222 Without actually showing, can you explain the general difference or have you not had to use that style before? Thanks for all you do for us!

[@minimaxfifty]

My 10K’s 20T stud gear runs on only half of the idler gear… I’ve seen photos of the same. Why is it set up this way?

[@PenninkJacob]

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[@scottway1807]

Do you have a quick change gear box for a 9b

[@mrpete222]

No, wish I did. I need one for my 9 inch south Bend.

[@joemcorbett]

I have one.

[@alro2434]

Thanks, but still wanna see the insides, not a drawing, since 1964 HS shop with the same model South Bend.