Quick Tip 207 - Underpainting Lift Out

[@LeslieNikulka]

Your knowledge, skill and artistry are 2nd to none, Dianne and you explain things in a way that I can understand. Thank you so much for sharing.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks, Leslie. It's a pleasure sharing this stuff.

[@AButler0901]

You are a national treasure! I bought your book, Finding Freedom to Create. I love it and recommend it to EVERYONE. I also just tried your Gamsol/Poppyseed oil method and boy did that make a difference! In addition to watching all of your KZbin videos, I am looking at the DVDs to buy some of those. My only wish? You made a T-shirt that said "Just a liiitle bit....". I'd buy that in a heartbeat!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks for that plug, Anthony. Maybe we'll do t-shirts in another lifetime. :)

[@jerrysetlerr770]

I have done it like this, it really does work and give the illusion of detail right of the hop and quickly gives a landscape sketch takes ,care of the little shadows .

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks for sharing this, Jerry.

[@Rcknrobin]

Thank you ❤ you are one of the best teachers I have found. God bless you in all good things life has to offer.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Wow, thank you!

[@jjroseknows777]

I am fascinated with how this is an extension about the under-painting that I was just commenting on another lesson (about painting grasses). Again the worth of this lesson is going to make a big difference in the next painting I attempt.I LOVE this lesson; it forces me to be aware of the need for planning what I want to paint...forcing me to work up my sort of "rough draft".

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Great! Happy painting!

[@rejithrt9544]

I am seeing a video with no Dislikes for the first time.. Till this day and time 07 Mar 2019... Thank you dear Dianne for that good lesson.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Let's hope that hold for the duration. Thanks for watching!

[@XX-ol7lf]

Ma’am, thank you so much, I appreciate your lessons. Your videos are an immense assistance....to my progression. Thank you.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You are so welcome!

[@nikkiswenson54]

You are just such a lovely woman to share your awesome skills! Appreciated!!!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

It's my pleasure. Thank you.

[@mariacristinadixondecarval876]

You are a wonderful teacher. Thank you ! Watching you from Brasil with gratitude

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Hello Brasil! Thanks for watching.

[@kck7932]

You're a gem Dianne! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and talent with the world!! Well wishes to you & yours, x0 💙💜🖌🎨

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks!

[@inkswampmedia2577]

Super helpful and wonderfully explained. Thank you so much for being so generous with this quick tip.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

😊

[@roxannefineart]

I love your videos. Your artwork has a beautiful dreamy quality. Even your little background painting is just so pretty. Thankyou for the quick tip. :)

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You are so welcome!

[@mollygirl10go]

You made this so clear to me in a way I can understand the importance of the underpainting I love art and what I have learned is from artist like yourself . Thank you for sharing.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Wonderful. If I can give clarity to a topic, I've done my job.

[@laurelglenn]

Love all of your lessons, they have been so helpful thank you

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure.

[@ayeshashahid4153]

I am a beginner in oil painting. It's a great tip. I am becoming your great fan. You are such a great artist.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thank you very much!

[@joseluisderivera465]

Thanks a million again Diane! I’m about starting a nocturne painting but using this tip as underpainting. All the best to you master. Greetings from Mexico!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Wonderful! Enjoy the journey!

[@joseluisderivera465]

@@IntheStudioArtInstruction thank you! Happy Sunday!

[@patricianorwood1075]

Thank you for this. I needed that reminder. I have been experimenting with underpainting tones and your video let me know what I was missing.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Great! I love knowing when something I've taught gives clarity.

[@joseluisderivera465]

Thanks a million for sharing this timeless and powerful tip. Greeting from Mexico master.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure! Thanks for watching.

[@TerriKash-NEO]

Such a good tip. I am going to try working this way on my next project. It feels right to me because I really kinda don't like drawing on a canvas with anything. This seems a great way to get a feel for the desired composition in an organic way. It's interesting how each person has a preferred method and I think this method might be right up my alley. Thanks Dianne :-)

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Terri, you are right. This approach does allow a more organic method for developing the underlying composition. I think you will enjoy using it.

[@CAPMARK123]

Hi Dianne ...just wanted say I love your teachings.. You remind me sooooooo much of my dear mother. You look almost exactly alike ....even your accent and mannerisms.... Its so amazing to me .... Your instructions are clear and precise ....easily understood . thank you for your immense sacrifice of making your videos. They truly help a new painter like me. 😇

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Wow, thank you. Perhaps your mother and I were twins in a past life 😊.

[@CAPMARK123]

@@IntheStudioArtInstruction my mom was from Brinkley, Arkansas..... In a family of 12. You guys look and sound sooooooo much alike. 😇👍😀

[@kathleenlairscey5934]

Simple things in the beginning help so much . Including evaporating the solvent thank you so much.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure.

[@louloukroon-zitko5760]

thank you so much Dianne, your tips are really very helpful! you are a really good teacher.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks!

[@susant5722]

This was just the video I needed to clarify underpainting lift out!!! It was so helpful! Thank YOU! 😊 I really appreciate you and your videos! 😊 ❤️

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You are so welcome! Thanks for watching.

[@arcuda2001]

Thanks for the info.. I’ve been trying very similar approaches to my watercolors and gouache pieces .. the underpaintings are very helpful to get better contrasts of lights and darks , and helps me to stay focused on values ,as well . Thanks again ..

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Great! Thanks for sharing this.

[@eleanorcrooksculpture]

Thank you, your result looked very beautiful already and the demonstration very elegant.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks for watching.

[@joanistotler8804]

Exactly answering what I was wondering about - love the raw umber look to the notan. Thank you so much, Dianne!!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure, as always.

[@james6401]

I usually use W&N Burnt Sienna (PR101) in pleinair underpaintings. I'm thinking I need to use something cooler like Raw Umber though or mix ultramarine into the B Sienna in order to capture icy skies in Irish winter. Do we have much knowledge about how an underpainting colour affects the result? I've seen zero youtube videos on this. Edit: thanks for all your great videos!

[@juliannaohara9374]

Thank you for all you do - I treasure your videos.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

It's a pleasure. Thanks for watching.

[@lizkilic1528]

So easy to understand , you explain so beautifully......wish I had you as my private tutor 😍❤

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thank you! 😃

[@heidil7092]

Thanks Dianne. I often use an under painting and find that when I do, the outcome is usually better than if I had not. This also gives you less struggles along the way.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You are so right. Thanks.

[@laurataggart8018]

Thank you Dianne. This is so helpful. Much appreciated!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure!

[@ilovepainting58rosa84]

Great video I love to paint with the wipe out method working with big shapes and values I find I get much better results than using a linear method

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Enjoy the journey.

[@majo3423]

I loved this lesson so much. Thank you❤

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Wonderful! It's a pleasure to share these.

[@lindalopez5951]

Thank u so much.....I really needed a basic clear understanding of how start my oil painting....😀

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

This is not the only way, but it's a good one.

[@juliearvaniti7336]

you're such a good teacher ! Thank you !

[@gerriekaychurch658]

Thank you for demonstrating this lift out!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You bet!

[@danielbrown6448]

Thank you very much for all your advice !

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure!

[@TheJudeJane]

Nice demonstration. Painterly; no lines. Very professional.😊

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks.

[@blairmartin8811]

Thank so much I am a beginner with oil and found this really helpful hopefully see more of vidios really appreciated

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure. Thanks for watching.

[@KathyBrooksArt]

Very helpful, and easy to understand and apply this concept. Thanks!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You're very welcome!

[@bryoned9745]

Your tips are so helpful - thank you so much for sharing 😊

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

I love sharing these. Thanks for watching.

[@cheriesmith5140]

Beautiful- thank you for sharing. Great tutorial!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thank you! 😊

[@martigreen3055]

Love your educational videos. Fantastic teacher. Thank you for posting this.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure. Thanks for watching.

[@jcofortco]

Thank you kindly. I appreciate your expertise with this method. :)

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

It's my pleasure to share. Thanks for watching.

[@petercooper642]

It would be helpful to see the step after the underpainting is finished. So. If we could see how you then add color, and see how the final painting looks completed, would be great.

[@Website-Developer]

Great tip In "mural painting" some of us call it "toning the canvas" and/or "blocking it in" However it is all relative to like you said to basic "Color Harmony" and setting the light and dark values. Very nice work, Very clean. I love landscape painting. Actually I like it all

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Odd, isn't it, how we can find so many labels for a single technique.

[@VictoriaPark-lx4he]

Good demo-- very helpful!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks for watching!

[@angelz7785]

Thank you so much, this is the best tutorial I have seen so far! Using Gamsol and oil paint, how long does the underpainting take to dry?

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Depending upon the humidity, about 15 minutes or so.

[@jeffhreid]

Excellent demo. Very clearly presented. Thank you.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure.

[@robertpage320]

Thanks, Dianne. You always manage to come up with some very helpful info. I've been using Jackson's water-soluble oils for some time now and I'm very pleased with them. They would be ideal for this approach to the start of a painting. I'll give it a try on my next work of art.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Great. Let me know how the water-solubles work for this method.

[@shirleyandrews1152]

Thank you, this is all new to me. This will make the process so much easier😻

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

It is a wonderful method. It also works well for studying the value pattern of a subject.

[@terrilynnstalvey1416]

Thank you. Answered lifting out 😲 makes sense. Wish I could do oil but restricted due to allergies. I follow you for your tips and 😁 finally figured out comments. Thank you for the the videos clearly helpful 😁

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Glad you figured out Comments, Terri. And thanks for watching.

[@tammylanglois2602]

Wonderful demo!!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Many thanks!

[@boojay111]

thanks so much Dianne, very helpful and so generous

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure.

[@kimijonghighball9626]

Excellent tips, you’re such a great teacher.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Give this one a try. I think it will open up possibilities.

[@noelinecumming4963]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure

[@sandracarroll6233]

You are much appreciated .

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks, Sandra.

[@mona2242]

Wonderful tip, now would the next step be the blocking in? Thank you very much

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

That's it.

[@GKganesan]

Thank you; loved it.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

So glad!

[@jensschettler1732]

Thats the way i paint for more than 10 years. It is awesome.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Keep enjoying the journey.

[@parvaiznaseem8831]

Very good Video. Learned a lot of new techniques!!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks.

[@108bhavani]

Excellent presentation lift out good technique about to try it Thank you

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Great. It certainly does simplify the process.

[@GeorgiaBoi70]

Excellent explanation. I wonder if there is a similar technique using acrylics.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Acrylic dries so fast, lifting out like this is difficult, however you can use watercolor for this approach, then acrylic on top. Even the cheap pan watercolors will work, like those made by Prang.

[@anthonyrogone5155]

Like your quick tip videos very much. Do you have a video of the Tonalist method of painting? Thank You

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Not per se. I'll put this one on our schedule.

[@jerrysetlerr770]

You have it looking very much like the photo in the first two minutes it puts it into such perspective .

[@shirleyandrews1152]

Thank you so much, you are a good teacher

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thank you! 😃

[@bethaniaromero8716]

You have so much knowledge 😇

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

I've had a long time to gather it 😊

[@2annawen]

Thank you for talking about this subject it is now very clear to me♡♡♡...

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

I'll be happy to answer any questions you have about this process. Just ask them here in this comments section.

[@young1471]

That was a great lesson!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks.

[@artladi1453]

Excellent lesson Thank you Yes

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You bet!

[@nanvaughn2258]

Thank you for this concise video. How would an additive underpainting verses a wipe out or subtractive underpainting effect the final painting? Or does it?

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Nan, if you begin with a toned canvas, areas not in shadow will come out to be that tone. But the notan is not a part of the painting, only the pattern of light and shadow. It is a guide, so the final painting may or may not include influence from the underpainting. As a usual practice, those paintings who begin with the notan don't tone the canvas first, although it's fine to do so. Also, for some the underpainting notan serves also as the canvas tone.

[@drbhansali]

Excellent tips and techniques

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks.

[@mischabe3]

Thank you, Dianne. Very useful tip 🌹

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

If it is useful, I have met my goal. Thanks for watching.

[@lada7539]

Thanks, your schooling is invaluable

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

And thank YOU for watching.

[@ballyantonia]

...and when the student is ready the teacher appears.

[@phyllisjeanfulton]

Helpful and important. Thank you.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You're welcome!

[@daledanby6831]

You are amazing👏

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks!

[@JeannettieP]

What a Great tip! Thank you

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You are so welcome!

[@juliejroth29]

just what I was looking for! Big thanks!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure!

[@frasermay7825]

It's a very useful technique for laying in rocks too

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Give it a try.

[@manjukhetawat6806]

I find the solution of all painting related questions in your lessons. Thank you very much. I recently used burnt sienna in the same way as shown in this lesson, but it's not drying up even after 4-5 days. Please advise.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Manju, that is unusual. But not knowing the brand you are working with, I can't really suggest why it is not drying. Were you using it for lift out, and were you using a solvent with it? If you were using an oil, was it walnut oil? When using a refined solvent such as mineral spirits for lift out, the solvent evaporates within minutes, but a slow drying oil such as walnut oil, my method in this Tip won't work because of the lag in drying time.

[@DRPIreland]

Thank you Dianne.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Always a pleasure.

[@SkysMomma]

Wonderful! Thank you so much!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You're very welcome!

[@johnwallace5593]

This woman is extremely informative

[@atkatk9208]

Tn q for tha valueble info.... Keep it up... Luv u soomuch

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Always a pleasure.

[@wicker1234]

I love your quick tips. I have been a watercolourist and acrylic painter so far but would like to get into oils. Are there any drawbacks to water mixable oils? I'd rather avoid traditional linseed oils (and turps).

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

The only experience I've had with water mixable oils is what I've seen my students do with them. My opinion is that they are too new for a real test of time, but I've not heard of any drawbacks. There are water mixable mediums to mix with them, even a linseed oil.

[@lolitakaloustianyoung7787]

Hi Dianne, Do you let the underpaintings dry thoroughly before continuing? Perhaps you can tell I am new to oils!! Thank you.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Yes I do, Lolita, but it doesn't take long because the solvent evaporates rapidly.

[@carolinafernandezoro733]

Excellent!!!!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Many thanks!

[@corabe1638]

Very nice and good advice...Thank you!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks for watching.

[@alkasarin1073]

Thank you Dianne as always you are the best teacher I have also learnt that I should be patient and calm when painting. Dianne after lift out is done then how to start painting and approach it? Please give a quick tip on this .

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Alka, there are dozens of ways to start a painting after underpainting. I show my method in the video Notan: How and Why, here in this channel. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJqsnmyDqJyNkJo

[@alistairshephard2014]

thank you this was great!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Glad you enjoyed it! Give it a try.

[@voxs8694]

Interesting that you use so much gamsol, Does the pigment stick enough on the canvas? I always scrub in raw umber straight from the tube and wipe away the exces to get a middle value ( or lighter). The layer is lean, but not as slippery as I find the case with gamsol. Thanks for your wonderful instruction video's, they/you are the best!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

There's just enough Gamsol to create a wash. It begins to evaporate almost instantly and yes, the pigment sticks to the canvas.

[@voxs8694]

@@IntheStudioArtInstruction Thank you, I will try to ad some gamsol, it will save paint wasted on my method.

[@jinxieclark884]

I love watching your tutorials. I learn so much. I have noticed you have A LOT of paint on your palette, is there a way you are just using it over and over? I would be afraid to waste paint, but maybe you have advice on how to keep it out of the tube without it drying up?

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

I explain that in Quick Tip 115. You can find all my Quick Tips at kzbin.info/aero/PLvx-2GtID2b4e3ECbRvzhjJTJCYAuuN3F

[@Art_admirer]

Great . Can we use linceed oil or tarpeen oil with raw umber instead of Gamsol in underpainting ?

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Linseed oil is the binder that is used in most oil paints. Tarpeen oil is used as a topical medical for soothing pain so I don't think it wise to use it with oil paints. Turpentine and tarpeen oil are different in that turpentine is a solvent. Gamsol is a solvent, too. Gamsol is a refined mineral spirits, so any refined mineral spirits or refined turpentime would work for this underpainting liftout.

[@SuperFrasman]

Very helpful................many thanks!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure.

[@ireneflores179]

Did you finish the painting? I’d love to see it! Thank you I learned so much from this!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Irene, the liftout was based on a painting I had finished. I don't usually use demos to create a finished work.

[@BeckyLarson-g6q]

Is it possible to use acrylic paint instead of oil....maybe spray a light mist often?

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Yes if you can keep it damp long enough for the lift out

[@sttarch5150]

I use an underpainting that is the color of the ambient light. If it's evening, lean to blue. Daytime, try thin burnt siena.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks.

[@danstenabaugh1992]

Love your demos Diane. I learn a lot each time I watch them. I am curious though about the type of panels or paper you use when you work???

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

In my studio work (that is, when I'm painting, but not teaching), I use stretched triple primed canvas.

[@coolinva]

Thanks, but what's the difference between blocking and underprinting (except monochrome and colorful)? Seems basically the same or very close methods to me, could you explain this for me? Thanks.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Any part of the painting that lives under the finished layer is underpainting, whether called block-in or something else. The painter should become too concerned about terms, though.

[@souzanemayes5670]

Question! I'm doing a painting with a landscape, water and a figure. What Color should my underpainting be?? Thank you

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Souzane, that depends upon the local color within the reference as well as what the light is doing to it. This Tip, Underpainting Lift Out, is about finding and plotting the light/shadow pattern which, in my experience, is extremely helpful in determining what the light source is doing. The colors we use to create this step are relatively insignificant. Some painters prefer a complement to the local color, others prefer a neutral, while others prefer a color analogous to the local color. I personally prefer a more neutral color.

[@souzanemayes5670]

@@IntheStudioArtInstruction thank you so much

[@tatifora7098]

Hi Dianne, thank you so much for your tips. A lot of great information. I was wondering have you used water miscible oils? Can you talk about them? Is the technique same as using regular oil? I am using solvent specifically for the WMO , is it like using gamsol? I only use water to clean brushes. Am i using this solvent correctly? Or do I have to use water. The colors are very flat. Can you help? Thank you very much

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

I don't have experience with water soluble oils, but they were made water soluble so that water could be used rather than solvents, so yes water rather than Gamsol. I suggest for thinning paints you use water soluble mediums. Other than that, painting with them is the same as painting with regular oils so far as I know.

[@tatifora7098]

Thanks much for your reply. Your quick tips have helped me a lot.

[@janetgeist8505]

This was an awesome video, thank you.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks for watching.