Quick Tip: Pt 2 - How To Get an SBR

In Part 1 of this two-part episode on SBRs or "short-barreled rifles," Caleb explained what an SBR is and how it's covered by the National Firearms Act of 1934 or "NFA." Now, he's going to walk us through the process of registering an SBR with the ATF. As with any process involving the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives, you'll have to fill out a form. If you're buying an existing, factory-built SBR, you have to submit ATF Form 4. If you're converting an existing rifle or AR-15 pistol or similar gun with a pistol brace into an SBR, fill out ATF Form 1. Shorthand: Making it yourself = Form 1. Buying an existing SBR = Form 4.
You can register your SBR to yourself as an individual OR to a trust of which you are a trustee. If you register as an individual, you are the ONLY person who can be in possession of that SBR. You can't lend it to somebody. Wherever it goes, you have to go with it. If it's registered to a trust, you can include other people among the TRUSTEES, each of whom can legally have the SBR in their possession. Setting up the trust is more expensive, but it gives you a lot more flexibility. Registering as an individual involves less paperwork and costs less because you just spend the $200 for the tax stamp and whatever it costs to have a passport photo made and your fingerprints taken.
You can fill out old-fashioned paper forms and mail them to the ATF. But the turnaround time will be much faster if you use the e-forms on the ATF's website. There's even a process for uploading a copy of your fingerprint card, so if you want to register another NFA item in the future, your fingerprints are already in the ATF database.
If you're submitting a Form 1, for "building" the SBR yourself, your (1) name or your trust's name and (2) city and state will have to be engraved on the receiver of the gun (lower receiver, if it's an AR-15). You can register your SBR under multiple calibers, rather than specifying only one. This means you can change the SBR's caliber by swapping on a different upper receiver assembly without having to re-register the gun. You do have to list specific calibers - you can't just register it as "Multi-Caliber."
When you die, your heirs can inherit your SBR. They'll have to register it with the ATF, but they DO NOT have to pay the $200 tax again. The tax is a one-time deal that applies to the life of the gun. Transferring ownership of an NFA item does require you (or your heir) to fill out and submit an ATF Form 5.
NOTE: Products in this video are to be used only for lawful purposes, including hunting, self-defense, and competitive or recreational shooting. If you purchase any of them, you are responsible for understanding and complying with all federal, state, and local laws that apply to the purchase, possession, and use of these products.

[@marchaldillon3184]

The best way to get an sbr is to get rid of the ATF and NFA.

[@ballistic9644]

@@EazyE11retard alert

[@willybingusthealien]

​@@EazyE11defund the feds

[@carlosx1576]

@@EazyE11is the atf police ? 😂

[@EazyE11]

@@carlosx1576 Directly from the ATF website: ATF special agents are highly trained, elite law enforcement officers who investigate violations of federal laws and regulations related to the criminal misuse of firearms and explosives, firearms trafficking, acts of arson, and the diversion of alcohol and tobacco products. As sworn law enforcement officers, special agents are authorized to carry weapons and make arrests for federal offenses against the United States. ATF is one of the few federal agencies where special agents get to oversee their cases throughout the entire criminal investigation process, from the crime scene to the courtroom. Special agents travel extensively and must be ready to accept reassignment to any U.S. state or territory relational to ATF’s operational needs.

[@abc4781]

Yeah except that'll never happen, so how about a realistic solution?

[@brucewillis1236]

Best tutorial I've seen on this subject. Does not assume prior knowledge. A+ and kudos!

[@Elchuy0782]

I was thinking about getting an SBR but after watching this great video explaining all the BS you gotta go through and deal with, I made up my mine to stick with the pistol

[@JoeO.]

Nothing like a cup of coffee while listening to Caleb’s soothing wisdom on bureaucratic form filing…

[@viralshark]

You can attach the flamethrower you built to the cannon you built, but you can't shorten the barrel on your .22 plinking rifle by a half inch because that would just be too dangerous!

[@tenormdness]

ESPECIALLY if it’s super duper quiet. Twice as dangerous! And if you’re in CA there’s even more dangerousness you gotta change out.

[@JChris143]

Ahh yes, far too dangerous indeed fine sir, far toooo dangerous indeeed

[@timamyett9679]

Actually .22 rim fire has a lot less requirements. A

[@CampDavid54]

Can’t wait to give atf my info ! They are my trusted source for 2a rights.

[@RCSkunkWorX]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@richb.4374]

Because we all know that along with the IRS, the FBI and a whole host of alphabet government agencies can be trusted with all of our personal info and rights. eyeroll

[@aarondmason808]

I have 6 stamps. They haven’t showed up at 3 AM and killed my dog yet.

[@bisleyblackhawk1288]

@Camp David…The Fed’s alphabet boys already have information on you, me and everyone else that has made a purchase thru an FFL or any other business where a 4473 was filled out to purchase a firearm or have been issued a CCW along with your social media presence (👍-👎🏻, who you follow along with your comments on KZbin, cellphone signal tracking, websites visited, what you purchase from Amazon…the list goes on and on)…welcome to the future of anonymity 🤫🤫🤫

[@Ni999]

@@aarondmason808 _So your dog is in on it._ 🤔

[@StrollaLawDefense]

The knowledge transfer specifically indicating several different calibers for your SBR form one was right on point. Excellent nugget for people to know!

[@aarondmason808]

You cannot list multiple calibers.

[@boldie24]

@@aarondmason808 This is correct. You can't list multiple calibers on the application but you can use multiple calibers once the lower has been approved as an SBR.

[@aarondmason808]

Yes. I’ve stated that several times here.

[@bisleyblackhawk1288]

My Form 1 took 27 days from day one (application) until the approval email with the stamp…another 5 days to get the lower back from the engraver. It was both easier and quicker than I expected…the main reason I chose to take the SBR route when I did was to maybe get a jump on a possible rush that could be coming if and when the ATF puts rule changes on pistol braced lowers in the coming months 🙁🙁🙁

[@StrollaLawDefense]

@@bisleyblackhawk1288 very smart idea!

[@martyyoung3611]

It would be great if we lived in a truly free country and could just buy what we wanted without having to deal with stupid, unconstitutional rules and agencies.

[@jjgriffin3275]

nukes and f15s

[@DILLIGAF88]

@@jjgriffin3275 yes if you can afford it

[@martyyoung3611]

@@jjgriffin3275, I'd settle for an Apache, minigun, 240, 249 and a Ma Deuce.....and plenty of ammo for them.

[@Gambitt1970]

Even with an instant background check it would be way better than what we have.

[@Ed-ss1uh]

@@DILLIGAF88 where do you get your AP?

[@RedHuntsman]

It is important to note that if you break any of these NFA rules it is not like a parking ticket-it's a damn felony with significant fines. For example, if I had a suppressor on my home defense weapon and my wife used it to defend herself while I wasn't home, one or both of us would get slapped with a felony unless I setup a trust and had her on it. Likely the perp that broke into the home would face lesser charges-if he survived. The $200 tax stamp is bad, but the risk of a felony for something harmless should be the biggest consideration before someone gets into NFA items.

[@gunrunner514]

Preach it bootlicker.

[@danefoss9679]

Thank you for all the great info, as always, Caleb. Abolish the NFA.

[@mefirst5427]

Forgotten Weapons explained very well in a recent video how absurd the SBR in NFA is.

[@ucanon2662]

You are known as a "maker" when you register a pistol style firearm as a SBR when you do a Form 1 as an "Individual." When you get approved to make your pistol into a SBR, you'll also have to engrave (stamp) your SBR with your name you listed on the Form 1, including the city and state. The engraving must be at least .003 inches deep and cannot be less than 1/16 inches in size.

[@natescott174]

Are there places you can go/ ship this to that could provide this service?

[@ucanon2662]

@@natescott174 I don't know where you reside but I did a Google search for firearm engravings and I found places near where I reside...or if there is a local FFL, ask them for a referral or a place they recommend...some FFL's do engravings.

[@Beanmachine9198]

Caleb, I kinda just prefer the constitution, you know, the “Shall Not Be Infringed” part 🧐🧐🧐

[@Knox-ec9ur]

Some people don't enjoy federal prison and crippling fines. Just saying.

[@Fluffy_production]

@@Knox-ec9ur big igloo

[@Firstamongstslowbois]

@@Knox-ec9ur then don’t tell anyone and don’t make 50 plus spookies

[@Knox-ec9ur]

@@Firstamongstslowbois Idk what you're taking about big dawg

[@Firstamongstslowbois]

@@Knox-ec9ur The secret ingredient is crime… in small amounts.

[@budm9982]

Way to go, Caleb. Nicely presented!

[@allanfischer9417]

Good, clear, concise overview of a complicated topic.

[@BloodEagle.]

I'm so glad that the e-Form system has lived up to it's 90-day turnaround since I'm currently waiting for 6 months and the average turnaround time has jumped to over 200 days. Yay government.

[@aarondmason808]

Snooze you lose. I got my stamp in 2 months 24 days.

[@ucanon2662]

You are known as a "maker" when you register a pistol style firearm as a SBR when you do a Form 1 as an "Individual." When you get approved to make your pistol into a SBR, you'll also have to engrave (stamp) your SBR with your name you listed on the Form 1, including the city and state. The engraving must be at least .003 inches deep and cannot be less than 1/16 inches in size. I got my pistol into SBR approved eForm 1 back in 33 days...I think doing the Eforms (ATF eForms website) is simpler and faster, since I got mine back in 33 days and I also paid $30 at a local FFL to get my fingerprints in a digital electronic format that I was able to upload into the eForm, like you did with a photo of yourself and photos of all the manufacturer's markings...rather than sending/mailing your fingerprints with your control copy to ATF...thus, doing everything electronically on eForm website expedites the process, seems like to me. So, if you do another eForm you can use your smae digital fingerprints again and again to upload into eForm applications. Due to ATF's Amnesty program I didn't have to pay the $200 tax stamp and once approved they checked "tax exempt" on my approved eForm 1. Good luck! (Sidenote, there's guys who are still waiting for their approved eForms, looks like I got lucky.)

[@bisleyblackhawk1288]

Excellent information Caleb…E-Forms are the way to go…my latest E-Form 1 took 27 days from initial application to receiving my email from the ATF with my tax stamp…another 5 days added from dropping off my SBR lower for engraving until I picked it up.

[@djphillips109]

How much did the engraving set you back?

[@bisleyblackhawk1288]

@@djphillips109 $40 bucks…from what I understand this is pretty much the going rate around SE Tennessee and N GA.

[@ucanon2662]

You are known as a "maker" when you register a pistol style firearm as a SBR when you do a Form 1 as an "Individual." When you get approved to make your pistol into a SBR, you'll also have to engrave (stamp) your SBR with your name you listed on the Form 1, including the city and state. The engraving must be at least .003 inches deep and cannot be less than 1/16 inches in size. I got my pistol into SBR approved eForm 1 back in 33 days...I think doing the Eforms (ATF eForms website) is simpler and faster, since I got mine back in 33 days and I also paid $30 at a local FFL to get my fingerprints in a digital electronic format that I was able to upload into the eForm, like you did with a photo of yourself and photos of all the manufacturer's markings...rather than sending/mailing your fingerprints with your control copy to ATF...thus, doing everything electronically on eForm website expedites the process, seems like to me. So, if you do another eForm you can use your smae digital fingerprints again and again to upload into eForm applications. Due to ATF's Amnesty program I didn't have to pay the $200 tax stamp and once approved they checked "tax exempt" on my approved eForm 1. Good luck! (Sidenote, there's guys who are still waiting for their approved eForms, looks like I got lucky.)

[@IwatchFilm]

Took less than 48hrs to get my SBR Form 1 approved using eForms. Had my electronic fingerprints ready, trust done, passport photo ready. Once you have all your stuff, everything is done through eForms. I was the "maker" and filed as a trust. After approval, got the engraving done, then built out my SBR (can't build until approved).

[@heatherburger1666]

This cleared up a lot of questions I had. Thank you.

[@tombriggman2875]

Caleb, many thanks as I followed you advice and obtained Approval for a multi caliber AR lower. The only issue is how to prioritize which to build next. Thanks again.

[@watermann8200]

The digital fingerprints are EFT files and as of Nov 8 2022 eForms allows the EFT file upload for form 1s. Form 1s are now running 90 days on eForms, form 4 eForms is 180+.

[@lordaresthefirst]

I'm at 9 months on eforms still waiting...ridiculous! Good video, thanks!

[@williamwinn948]

i refuse to play along and put myself on A registry..

[@Firstamongstslowbois]

Gotta make a home made auto shorty spooky Boi with a quiet tube

[@north_borne]

If you've ever bought a firearm or parts for a firearm with a credit card, you already are.

[@columbiabowler300]

You have a drivers license or credit card?

[@xaza5625]

Hate to tell you but they already know you exist and you leaving comments like this sure doesnt help

[@willshogren1987]

If you think a handful of intelligence agencies aren't already sifting through your personal information, you're sorely mistaken. Let me tell you about a guy named Edward Snowden...

[@gimpyRW]

Great video you got me thinking. My scenario is I already have a terminal diagnosis,and, want an SBR. I now get to decide how my gun trust gets written, and, whether I include my wife (who bought me most of my guns) and/or my son. Only kidding guys,. My wife will be on the trust too.

[@chrits3396]

Step 1: Put yourself into a government database that contains your biometrics and location Step 2: Wait for a long time Step 3: Get a paper telling you are allowed to own the thing that you already own. Step 4: Congrats on owning the thing that you already owned.

[@aarondmason808]

Something to be said about being legal. It’s a wonderful feeling telling law enforcement to get fucked when they ask to see your paperwork.

[@tombranstetter68]

Personally I just purchased a 16" upper and will store my shorter barrel until a time when or/if this tyranny ends.

[@TheFlyingZulu]

Don't forget the 200$ extortion fee that you have to pay to the tyrannical "Crown" that is considered our government nowadays.

[@jasielm5258]

Basically

[@JEJAK5396]

You cannot follow an illegal law, and be “legal”.

[@aarondmason808]

I have 6 stamps. You cannot list multiple calibers. Your form 1 will get kicked back. You can swap different caliber uppers onto a registered lower all day long provided the gun is returned to its registered configuration. Eform is the way to go. My longest form 1 took 3 months. The shortest was 3 weeks.

[@TheRdickey]

Should I do the paperwork before I purchase the parts or should I purchase the parts then do the paperwork? Obviously in either case I am not going to assemble the rifle before I get the stamp. I have a stripped lower so far.

[@ucanon2662]

You are known as a "maker" when you register a pistol style firearm as a SBR when you do a Form 1 as an "Individual." When you get approved to make your pistol into a SBR, you'll also have to engrave (stamp) your SBR with your name you listed on the Form 1, including the city and state. The engraving must be at least .003 inches deep and cannot be less than 1/16 inches in size. I got my pistol into SBR approved eForm 1 back in 33 days...I think doing the Eforms (ATF eForms website) is simpler and faster, since I got mine back in 33 days and I also paid $30 at a local FFL to get my fingerprints in a digital electronic format that I was able to upload into the eForm, like you did with a photo of yourself and photos of all the manufacturer's markings...rather than sending/mailing your fingerprints with your control copy to ATF...thus, doing everything electronically on eForm website expedites the process, seems like to me. So, if you do another eForm you can use your smae digital fingerprints again and again to upload into eForm applications. Due to ATF's Amnesty program I didn't have to pay the $200 tax stamp and once approved they checked "tax exempt" on my approved eForm 1. Good luck! (Sidenote, there's guys who are still waiting for their approved eForms, looks like I got lucky.)

[@Dr.KennethNoisewater]

I just got mine back in 9 days….over the holidays too. Crazy fast.

[@Saint_BehindAKeyboard]

A detailed video on how to properly measure your gun for the form 1 would be a great help.

[@JJLTACTICALSOUTIONS]

So I got the form 1 approved and now I have to get it engraved and I am done. The form 1 was approved in only 3 days! Just ordered a suppressor today, paid the $200 doc stamp and the wait continues. .300 Blackout, 8.5 inch barrel with Griffin Armament suppressor. They give 30% off for veterans. The direct thread suppressor was only $450.

[@FlacomanXD]

Part 1: install short barrel Part 2: attach stock Done

[@keith20thSOS]

An Excellent Informative Video as Usual!

[@OKatGaming528]

did my sbr form 1 through eforms. I got an approval in about a week

[@lancebane3088]

I can't wait for the Form 1/4/5 DNA requirement!

[@jamjedi1972]

Sadly that's more than likely coming Lance. Wouldn't surprise me one damn bi.

[@marshalllapenta7656]

Good point regarding the transfer with the tax stamp.

[@Rumblestrip]

Thx Caleb. Id have several SBRs and suppressor's if there was no ATF. I don't feel like risking $200, and needing permission to move while i wait upwards of a year for approval and agree to be tyrannized.

[@amogoose5638]

Thankfully suppressors and pistols don’t require permission to move

[@richb.4374]

@@amogoose5638 Not yet, I'm sure some democrat politician is working on that next.

[@nomad155]

@@richb.4374 If you think a Democrat is what you gotta be afraid of you haven't been doing much digging in terms of firearm history.

[@aarondmason808]

Risking $200? If they prove you are a shit bag and deny you they refund your money. Permission to move? It takes 10 minutes to fill out two 5320.20s and mail them in. To me it sounds like you are either lazy or can’t pass an FBI background check. The more people that own NFA items is good. We can use the case of them being common place items to get the NFA abolished.

[@richb.4374]

@@nomad155 Both sides suck...one sucks worse. I'm fully aware that republicans have signed anti gun crap into law too. Democrats are more relentless about it.

[@Name-ps9fx]

That green SBR looks like a toy rifle I had as a kid ...😊 I WANT IT! ❤

[@hoglaw09]

Thank you for a very helpful and informative video, rather than complaining and moaning about the process.

[@joesabedra8792]

I was told to do it in a single caliber. After you get your😊 stamp send atf a letter adding all of the other calibers. No fee or permit needed. It’s just a notification letter.

[@williammaclaren9539]

"E-Forms is faster" - HA! I haven't seen any improvement in wait time. Did my first form 4 using e-forms on April 4. It is now November 16 and I am still waiting.

[@Firstamongstslowbois]

But you could just do “crime” it’s the fastest

[@aarondmason808]

What do you expect? Starting mid January everyone and their mother efiled form 4s. I was smart and filed early. I got approved in 2 months 24 days.

[@easton5700]

@@aarondmason808 You keep flexing your quick approval times on people yet you're the one to laugh at since you're the one who complied. Lol.

[@aarondmason808]

Who fucking cares? You can be one of the girls hiding in your mothers basement while I fly all around the country with my legal sbrs, short barreled shotgun and silencers. Have a nice day loser.

[@Firstamongstslowbois]

@@aarondmason808 hey that’s something a boot licker would say 🍑👅

[@Lee-xn8by]

Wow, thank you!! I actually feel embarrassed for all the you tube gun guys who explained much less in 25 minutes!

[@itsamk18-ish]

How to make an sbr. Step 1: remove brace Step 2: drink beer Step 3: put on stock Step 4: drink beer Step 5: don’t post online/tell people about it

[@BitMicrobe]

Is that really how simple it is? I never understood why people would register if all it takes is literally swapping a brace for a stock with no additional steps required

[@itsamk18-ish]

@@BitMicrobe yes. But if for some reason you were ever caught with an unregistered sbr by someone who knows what they’re looking at then it could be big trouble. Up to ten years in prison, up to 250k in fines,loss of that firearm and loss of the right to own firearms as you would be a felon. So many people register to avoid all that.

[@BitMicrobe]

@@itsamk18-ish good to know, thanks for replying man lol.

[@trentnichols5075]

Would having a CPL (concealed pistol license)help in Michigan? Here they now use your drivers license photo on your CPL also. Great video! Thank you all.

[@paulfigueroa2926]

I laughed at this whole video. A trust.... Trust I do what I want!

[@Com-bc6jl]

Agreed This whole series has such a defeatist attitude.

[@steveegbert7429]

Caleb's just telling it like it is at the moment if you want to be legal. It's up to you to choose to do whatever you want.

[@stevecastro22]

Excellent explanation, thank you for sharing.....

[@fckjoebdn1776]

The $200 is one thing (our government steals from us daily anyway) but registration always eventually leads to confiscation and engraving the receivers will decrease the value.

[@project86xero]

If you sbr something your never selling it unless it's a factory sbr that's desirable like a mk18 or something. Basically once you sbr it that shits yours until you die. So value doesn't even play into it.

[@columbiabowler300]

Yeah machineguns have totally gone down in price because of the engraving……

[@cbrooks2767]

My receiver cost me $59. I think I can live with that.

[@mexicangator]

You should make a video where you actually put the information in for the eform 1 and discuss frequent mistakes like putting in the wrong model number

[@reasoning_exp]

The casual javelin in the corner

[@mw2junkie8]

This video was posted 11 months ago. If you filed for an SBR the day this released you may have just gotten it.

[@goinhot9133]

My local shop got a SilencerShop kiosk. When I bought my first suppressor, I also set up a trust. Took almost a year to get it finished. Now I want to build a SBR, & add it to my trust. Can I do this on the eForm 1? When I set up my trust and everything, the shop owner allowed me to use the SilencerShop kiosk for my/wife’s fingerprints & such. Not sure how the process works, trying to do it online. They complicate the process so much; for average law abiding citizens it’s hard to stay in compliance even when trying 100%.

[@gifthorse3675]

They don’t do SBR’s anymore because screw stream lining tyranny right.

[@goinhot9133]

@@gifthorse3675 one question that hangs me up on the paperwork. “What is the overall length of the SBR?” Like well, I wouldn’t know because assembling it would be illegal unless you use a pistol lower? So if you don’t have a pistol lower to throw the upper on & get a measurement, how would you know without breaking the law? & if they really wanted to get you, wouldn’t that be enough? Just answering that question. Makes no sense.

[@cors67]

Awesome video, great info, thank you!

[@platinumcontent9]

These videos are always helpful. Just gets straight to the point, no A to Z just A to B.

[@jacobf3064]

240 days out on one eform4, 183 on the other.

[@aarondmason808]

They must not like you. I never had to wait longer than 3 months.

[@richardkalbfeld]

@@aarondmason808 For form 1, 4, or other ?

[@Bigdaddylobo1]

My question is about the timing. If you have to get a new tax stamp for each item, so you can't just get a tax stamp and then go shopping for an SBR, how do you buy an SBR without a tax stamp? You buy the SBR, then apply for the tax stamp, but you can't use the item? Can you possess the item while you're waiting? You just can't use it?

[@rickrowe3903]

You pretty much nailed it. You buy the item and the store keeps it till Uncle Sam approves. If it's a suppressor you can purchase it at some ranges that will give you visitation rights until you can take it home.

[@HB-kp6rl]

The nfa is nfgay

[@ajdube9967]

Super easy with silencer shop! Approvals in two days for both of mine.

[@ChristianGrest]

Great info Caleb! Been loving the E-File system for Form 1s as of late. Wait times have went up bit...over a month for approvals. Still waiting on an E-File form 4 for a suppressor that was certified back in May.

[@elitetilesetting1909]

Why does everyone keep saying certified? What’s to be certified, I submitted an eform1 and didn’t see anything that said certified or got anything that said certified

[@ChristianGrest]

@@elitetilesetting1909 the certification process is for Form 4 transfers, not a Form 1

[@TheKlamminator]

Buy upper and lower separately, don't tell anyone. Boom, done

[@chrisgabbert658]

I just watched part one and now two.

[@RaineyPowerTraining]

I like formless. 😉 It's a joke ATF, chill.

[@816Souljah]

It should be anyways.

[@Vuntermonkey]

Or, "How to Grovel for a Shorter Shoot Tube".

[@robertchichitano3209]

Did the eForm 4, waited nine months and was not approved because the photo which was passport size came out to small on ATF side. Now have to start the process all over again. Time invested so far 18 months. Like a prison sentence for following the law.

[@1SmokeyRider]

Just build one and move along.

[@benjaminheeb8931]

do i have to prove i have a NFA online when purchasing?

[@jpoppinga8417]

I want a Henry mares leg with a full stock. $200 and paperwork for a gun designed in the 1800s. But hey we need more gun laws. The real salt in the wound is in Canada this same gun configuration is just a regular rifle.

[@marsoelflaco5722]

Thanks for the education.👨🏾‍🎓✌🏽

[@nealgold8442]

Great video and very informative.

[@rolenrodes1371]

The bad news is when filing the EForm, you must submit your Finger Prints as Scanned EFT's which is difficult to get...

[@danpeppers5564]

AR-15 lower, you covered submitting multiple calibers, such as 5.56/.300 black out, but would i have to be barrel specific? Say I have a 8.5 and 10.5 upper for .300 black out, do I need to list every one? or if I have one, can i add another short barrel later if I already have the tax stamp for another barrel length same caliber, or is it, once I have the tax stamp, and the lower is marked, can I then add any barrel length i want without having to change the trust?

[@velvetant]

Great video. I went the NFA Trust route and have multiple family members listed. I've Paper Form 1 and E Form 1 SBRs. E Form comes back faster, but I like the actual stamp that is placed on a Paper Form. My Pro Tip- be careful who you have doing your engraving. Its permanent and can really affect the look of your gun if done wrong.

[@SideStrafed]

How much was it for your trust?

[@velvetant]

@@SideStrafed It was several hundred dollars a few years ago. I used a local Michigan attorney.

[@momanddadplusus]

So if I have a B&T GHM9 it looks like I need a form 1. I’ll go to the eform site and see how complicated it is lol. Where does everyone get fingerprints done at?

[@petechaves8787]

so do you have to buy a sbr first and then file a form 4 or do you fill out a form 4 submit it and then once approved you can buy a sbr. idk why this confused me.

[@michaeltorluemke3322]

A trust will help you if you have a family I would think. If you only have yourself on the form then if your family has to use it in an emergency or just if they could handle it from your safe then they might be facing federal charges. The time and money spent to set up that trust could save you a lot of lawyers fees, fines, and maybe jail time. Just my thought.

[@traillesstravelled7901]

Thanks for the info.

[@firemedic23-5]

Very informative thanks for the video

[@jasonmartinez7582]

Do you have to purcashe a specifc firearm lets say daniel defense mk18sbr first to start the process or do you start the process then purchase the firearm?

[@LU-D1GITAL]

Would love some clarification about “Made in Arizona” sbr laws please

[@Techcensorshipbot]

Quick Tip: Its none of the government's business what guns I own.

[@zachariahmorris833]

Caleb for President!

[@flyy_boiee_yblu300]

Great information.

[@LDub_FlyingFish]

Are the passport photos carried over like the fingerprints on the e-forms or do you have to resubmit them every time? Also great explanation of the process, I know one requirement explained in the form process was mailing a letter to the local law enforcement agency. if you could expound on that maybe or if it’s even a requirement anymore. Thank You

[@aarondmason808]

It takes 2 seconds to upload a jpeg image of yourself from your desktop.

[@spookyindeed]

@ABC XYZ Fingerprint cards never expire, so you don't have to redo them. Passport photos are good for 6 months

[@Sigma75283]

What if I don't have a passport?

[@teamjon3]

I did the paper form #1 for two SBR that I built, I got the tax stamp back in 30 days back in 6 /1 / 2022

[@seanridner1385]

Eforms turnaround times are *sometimes* shorter

[@spookyindeed]

Considering the e-form 4 was just released this year, and people have gotten their stamp backs already, it's faster. I don't know a single person who got their paper stamp back in less than a year.

[@aarondmason808]

Incorrect. Eform form 4 has been around since 2021. Current wait times for efile form 4 is 300 days. I efiled for a can January 7th and got approved April. I got lucky and filed before the rush.

[@andrewschliewe6392]

What about if after you get the nfa stamp, you want to swap between the 16" barrel and a short barrel ?

[@aarondmason808]

Completely legal to swap different uppers as long as the gun is returned to its register configuration.

[@RIFFRAFF104]

Mill drill and assemble a 80% lower and buy a 10 inch complete upper... Oh wait... Yea.. Don't forget the paperwork.

[@doubletap1961]

I know 2 people who did E Forms and it's 4 1/2 months still no approval

[@richb.4374]

I met a gentleman in my local gun shop who has been waiting over a year for his suppressor stamp to be approved...ridiculous.

[@spookyindeed]

@@richb.4374 would have been a paper form then, the eform 4 has only been around since January of this year.

[@desupernoodle]

Or you could just do it without the ATF knowing and have a gun that the government knows nothing about, which is the best.

[@MrR8T]

Hi Caleb, just wanted to ask if there is any mentioned of any type length measurements of rifle you need to input on the forms? if, so how go about measuring? thanks!

[@nakotaapache4674]

great job as everytime

[@BuckFoeJiden]

Step 1: Screw the ATF.

[@WhiskeySix03]

Just got eform 1 approval in 12 days!

[@MarylandWearAndCarry]

ATF: How to get an SBR A. Simply possess an AR pistol with a brace. B. Destroy you husband's 16" AR by cutting the barrel in half and posting the video to your Facebook page. C. Kneel before the bureaucracy.... and open your wallet.

[@deezTX]

great topic, wish yall made a video how to for e forms, step by step ... I know there are videos out there but I like yalls channel. would be great.

[@rilianriggs4620]

Its easy bro, just do it you'll see

[@RedPill556]

I want to know what paperwork i need to fill out for one of those AT4"s behind you. 😉

[@josephshaff5194]

ya know I was just thinking w/ all the accessory possibilities we should make a program where consumers can view their product and outfit it and try it w/ different accessories in 3D. Of course something would have to be done to the proprietary models so they wouldn't be vulnerable to extracting data and counterfitting. And the engine could apply to more than just one industry. So if a customer wanted a 3D view they could get that and then if they wanted to break down a Field Strip it would show that. Wanted to see parts in certian assemblies see that like Bolt Carrage Assembly for cleaning it would show that w/ maybe some little instructions. This idea keeps hitting me. Could make one for Bikes too. What do you guys think ?

[@NotTheRookie]

Step 1: get an AR pistol Step 2: if applicable, remove pistol buffer tube Step 2B: attach mil-spec buffer tube Step 3: attach stock of choice

[@CVEIWKID]

Gotta get a longer barrel

[@richardkalbfeld]

ATF cannot come to your home and request to see any gun unless they have a warrant, or you give them your consent. Well,they can come. This includes any fully automatic weapons you legally own. If there asking you for consent, then they obviously don't have a warrant. However, the ATF can visit any FFL licensee once a year to check there records. Should the ATF come to your home and ask to to check your guns, ask the if they have a warrant. If they say NO, then STFU, and close your door. Never volunteer ANY information, Just STFU.

[@playzfahdayz]

This. People are clueless because people are Godless, and fear man more than God who gave us the 4th amendment. The ATF requires a warrant to search any property, and any Good Judge will never issue one to the ATF unless there is probable cause of committing a crime. Listing guns for sale and buying stocks for firearms is not probable cause, and a Good Judge will throw away the petition because he fears God and Truth more than men who have attempted to kill, steal, and destroy through the ATF and other unconstitutional federal cults. _Sinners, you have been warned._

[@Unvaccinated100Percent]

How do I navigate to United States of Caleb? USC?

[@maddoxinc1642]

Maybe put a link in the description for part 1?

[@BlueCollarDude101]

Repeal the NFA

[@maestrozilla]

with form 1 do you bypass the intercommerce federal law of purchasing arms from across state lines... being your ar is assembled yourself within state lines?

[@MrSabram07]

Please do a video on what to do once I receive the approved email. Meaning do I just print out the PDF and that's it?

[@shawmutt]

Just called the ATF to check in on my eForm 4. Agent told me average 180 days. It's been 4 months so far, so eForms are no longer quicker.

[@aarondmason808]

I efiled a form 1 June 6th. It got approved August 24th.

[@spookyindeed]

All paper forms I have done were over a year, so 4 months doesn't sound bad

[@FutureWarlordOfHomestead]

That may be the "average" according to them but the r/nfa reddit page has a much more realistic eform4 thread to follow. I certified my eform4 for a silencer March 31st, it was approved December 16th. 260 days. I certified a eform1 SBR May 25th, and it was approved June 2nd. That's the current realistic timeframe.

[@danlindgren4290]

I bought a complete rifle lower, thinking I would be getting a 14.5” pin and weld setup. Now I’m seriously thinking about just turning that lower into an SBR. I HAVE NOT BOUGHT AN UPPER OF ANY KIND. I don’t see any way this can be a problem, as long as I wait for my tax stamp before buying an upper. Any knowledgeable advice would be greatly appreciated.