Are New Japanese Heavies Worth it (T5-7)? World of Tanks

A new Japanese heavy tech tree has arrived in World of Tanks and today I'm letting you know if the mid tiers, Mitsu 108, Ju-Nu and Ju-To are worth it!
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[@timberwolfe1645]

QB!!! How come when you go these spots, you get 2900 damage but when I do the same thing, I get DEAD?!?

[@QuickyBabyTV]

Better gaming chair.

[@johnmccall4528]

@@QuickyBabyTV lol

[@ivandraatmawijaya6288]

@@QuickyBabyTV Good Point

[@andrewperillo3609]

There's a combination of various reasons. Firstly, he has max crew. Secondly I'm sure he knows exactly the perks to choose for each tank. An thirdly he's not going to tell you? Why would he admit or explain how he does what he does? Haha that's like giving away your award winning apple pie recipe to the other contestants

[@user-je9qp4hc9p]

its hardly a secret. Its some basic tactics sense, eyes(read the map) and luck. A good enemy player might have pick him as first target or not. and how many bad player u run in to also matters.@@andrewperillo3609

[@rakhimberdiyevt]

What i learned from this video - if you research lower tiers for free xp then you can really capitalize on those mission blueprints and use them to your advantage. Thanks quicky 👍

[@Daktangle]

The Mitsu surprised me with how agile it feels stock.

[@RedXlV]

Yeah, even when stock it has pretty good mobility. And once you mount the 105mm gun, that 300 alpha is really nice. But those mini-turrets are just horrendous to deal with. Far worse than they *should* be; the way Wargaming programmed the gun depression for the Mitsu is as if the mini-turrets were at least twice as big as they actually are. Even given the other weaknesses, it would be a pretty fun tank if not for that.

[@JWQweqOPDH]

​@@RedXlVActually due to the recoil mechanism under the gun, it would collide with the turrets if the gun could depress further. However, this restricted depression extends way too far over the side, past 90 degrees actually, despite the turrets being in the front.

[@TehShadowDeath]

It reminds me of a Storm Trooper. The only thing it has going for it is mobility. The armor is just about useless, and the gun... well.. I'm sure you guys get the joke. lol

[@danieldaniel1210]

@@RedXlV its a trash tank dude

[@RedXlV]

​@@danieldaniel1210 It's trash because you have effectively no gun depression unless you're going in reverse and firing over the rear. If not for that, it wouldn't be *good,* but the high-alpha gun would at least be fun to play with.

[@smallarmsfire7497]

The Ju Nu is like a pocket Tiger, its a solid tier 6

[@hagamapama]

I got the Ju Nu and the Tiger 131 at about the same time and they're very similar. I'm on the Ju To now and holy smokes is that thing BAD. Everyone knows how to pen that thing, just aim at the gun

[@julienderuyck6746]

We can compare it to Tiger T6: paper armor for T7 but average for T6 with great gun dep

[@hagamapama]

@@julienderuyck6746 Also like the Tiger, the Ju-Nu can target weak spots pretty well. Not quite at the Tiger's level, but adequate.

[@tomaskadlec9534]

The T7 really looks like the Walküre from the Steel Hunter

[@lotr4nd054]

unfortunately unlike the Walküre, tht T7 has the sidescrape of a T5 tank. You can pen it in the tracks while sidescraping with the kv-2 premium ap... 130 pen...

[@TehShadowDeath]

WG has a bad rep of making 90% of Tier 7 tanks dumpster fires. Tier 7 tanks are almost never worth the grind or frustration.

[@robertflint4115]

QB advice is great. Daily missions are not real hard and those blueprints add up. It's nice having tiers 8, 9, and 10 100% researched with blueprints. People who been around for years can tell you today's grinding is a Breeze to what it used to be. Rock on Tankers 🤘😎

[@soopafamicom]

Everything is handed to folks in the game nowadays.

[@01Zipang]

​@@soopafamicomThe top gun on the charioteer isn't

[@robinkhn2547]

but you still need quite a substantial amount of free xp if you want to skip directly to the tier X of a line

[@ericf9465]

If you're using blueprints, use them on the lowest tier first because when you earn mystery vehicle specific ones, the game assigns them to the lowest available preferentially.

[@Roxus1]

​​@@soopafamicomthat's a good thing. Only old fucks hate on other people for not also enduring similar pain. Typical

[@eclypse1259]

Ju-Nu was excellent with the top turret & gun, it took probably 6 good rounds (with the help of those x5 multipliers from holiday ops) to grind through it.

[@danielfeinour9611]

I haven't gone down the new Japanese heavy line just yet. However, I do feel that they will have some interesting quirks that will be good for the game. The tier 6 has been doing well in all my games, with tier 7 doing alright. Tiers 8-10 have been doing pretty well in my matches. Most players piloting them get pretty consistent damage, as long as they have a half decent team in support. I'm excited for when I start going down the tree.

[@kuroshiba1903]

I used to like the Ju-To on Blitz. It had an Improved suspension mechanic that would add a lot of terrain resistance and traverse speed, so you could almost reach medium speed and light tank traverse. It wasn't the correct build because you had to choose between that or extra -3 depression, but it was fun. Then they nerfed that mechanic because the Type 71 was way too broken and the Ju-To was hit in the crossfire, becoming just an average Tier VII heavy.

[@BlackWit11]

Yep, I am a cheeky player. Whenever a new tankline comes out I grind the XP for the first one and refrain of playing the rest of the tech tree until I have unlocked them completely with blueprints from the daily missions. If you have all tanks researched you are guaranteed to only get blueprints for the tanks you still need to research. One of the perks of being a tank collector!

[@Omegawerewolfx]

Thank you for this. I am on the t5 and struggling because I am bottom tiered often. At least I now know I am going to have better days.

[@GamingBigChief]

my favorite things about the t5-7 is they are real zippy, more than i was expecting. except they are very much sponges, the armor isnt very effective but at least have a decent amount of HP. im hoping the 8 is worth it

[@the_underscore319]

This really made me think about the old O-I exp. Tier 5 heavy, 100 tons, 40kph top speed, decent power to weight, 300 alpha gun. What an absolute unit of a tank, great overall and an even greater rammer. Imagine the same weight, speed, and alpha damage as the KV-5 but in tier 5. Fair enough it only had 75mm of armour all-round, but all the other advantages still made it quite overpowered. Maybe QB could feature a replay with the old pre-nerf O-I experimental.

[@Peter-dy9sp]

Its looks like CCs get special matchmaking. I tried the T5 and just got tier 7 and tier 6 games (didnt saw a tier 4 in 12 games) and also got the bad teams (2-15, 4-15,1-15). Was so frustrated that I used my free xp and blue prints. Tier 6 same happens, all tier 8 and tier 7 games. Always nice to be BZ176 junkfood.....not And when I saw Quickybaby suffering in the tier 7, I think I will stop grinding this line.

[@the_underscore319]

@@Peter-dy9sp Take it from an experienced player, CCs do not get special matchmaking. You've simply been a bit unlucky, likely combined with the fact that world of tanks is no longer a game that's balanced around grinding and stock tanks. If you don't have full upgrades on a tech tree tank you will be at a disadvantage to everyone else even if you are top tier. There are very few exceptions but generally the german sniper TD line can be considered an exception since most of the tanks in that line are decent even when stock. Especially the rhm borsig which a strong tank destroyer, even when stock.

[@Peter-dy9sp]

@@the_underscore319 Thanks for your answer mate. I never play Stock tanks cause I literally screw my whole team, but even then it is awefull. I played more then 60k battles and got a lot of experience with grinding. And its very strange that some tanks got a nice grinding and some tanks got horrible. Its more then the grind. Some tanks likes to get better matchmaking then others, its more then luck. F.e. the Panther is not a great t7 medium but I got 75% wins in it, and with the cs44 I hardly got it to 50%.

[@simoncook7911]

I liked the T7 - gun is much better than any other T7 that I can think of.

[@julienderuyck6746]

Even if the turret is not "invincible" like the T29 , the gun looks like very good , at the moment I have problem with the T8 heavy YO American tank with only 240 of alpha for T8 (the 105mm "top gun" is awful) so 320 of alpha at t7 with -10 of dep looks like very good!

[@zerrierslizer1]

the tier 6 is ok, and the tier 7 is also ok. me and a friend grinded them today for a while, and consistently did either just under 2k or a little over 2k damage each, so they are very good if you play them smart and work with a friend.

[@wjbremner]

Hope to see video about the remaining tanks on the line. I'm really curious about the new cooldown mechanic.

[@Der_Olli70]

Helped me a lot this video, buy now the T6 and excited how i will perform with him 👍🏻😊

[@Shorjok]

Informative video, thanks QB

[@ActionAndRace]

My two fist games with Ju-Nu I got Ace tankers. 4600 and 3700 damage. It's really good.

[@lilpumpkin7135]

The last 5 blueprints were for tier 8 - 10 tanks, even tho I havent researched the low tier heavys japanese tanks. I guess it’s all rng

[@samrexso5228]

was looking forward to this video thanks qb

[@BetaOrion64]

I skipped over the tier 5 all together, just didn't like the overall looks of the tank then saw the armor and went "nope!". Working on tier 6 now and really like it so far but I do find it's lower glacious a bit on the weak side so I've been treating it like a T29. I did get the Christmas Heavy but I wanted to wait till the entire line came out so I could train the crew specifically for the heavy line as I don't have any yet. I'll be interested to see your video on the tier 8 and 9.

[@AsiriHemantha]

hi man i just wanna say that the wot blitz version's tier 5,6 and 7 tanks that you showed here was soo much more op the the normal wot

[@roberthart3305]

Interesting, I played a couple of games in the tier 5 the first day and gave up. Too many in the game (4 or 5 on a side), and it just wasn't fun. I'm going to grind through for the tier 6, though that looks like a much better tank for gameplay. I will give the tier 7 a try too, mainly because I've researched pretty much every other line in the game and i am up for a new challenge. Good video, thanks for the useful info.

[@TheSwedeMcCoy]

I played through the Tier VI one with the stock gun by misstake and didn't even suffer. It was quite enjoyable for me even if I fired a lot of gold. The only bad thing with the Tier VI is that I got ammo racked quite often in it. The big gun is even better on it as I found out after I realized my misstake and changed gun on it.

[@dgeneratio1]

On Console with OI Exp i like to use the Stock Derp with HEAT which does like 360 alpha.

[@ScorpionTechReviews]

Ju-To is really easy to nuke. That thing looks like a slice of cheese and it's just as easy to pen. I never thought I'd be saying this about the AMX M4 45, but it has a LOT better armor. Ju-To can't handle brawling against anything that knows just how easy the turret is to pen and to be honest, I find it a LOT harder to pen the Ju-Nu's turret than Ju-To's. Wargaming seems to hate heavies lately.

[@Bulletisred]

Nice Qb What is the camo on the Junu ???

[@MrPerfect-om5ns]

Enjoyed your Video QB but taking a few weeks off WOT after Christmas Ops so will be a while before I try the new Japanese heavies.

[@IceCornelius]

The olby goodthing about tier 7 is the gun, if you fully aim,you hit pixeles at great distances

[@Cozmoz79]

Tier 6 best of the three. Not even close. T6 Ju Nu is decently fast, good gun (no giant bloom), good dpm and ok armor for it's tier even with a giant cupola.

[@codyfultz858]

Thank you for all you do quacky babes

[@jimhudson4744]

Thanks for the review, because I am sick I've ended up skipping the grind and from these 3 it looks like I didn't miss out on anything thus far. I may get up to the Tier VI but the VII does look like a dog, Waiting for your evaluation of the other tiers.

[@rubenrudinas1394]

take note on the ju to, ju to was supposed to be played like a medium tank. Why? because it has good mobility, good gun handling, and its also a mid range support vehicle. I only find this out when i played the ju to on a medium tank style, and surprisingly worked and a win too. When i played the ju to with heavy tanks, its complicated. I get easily get destroyed while sidescrapping cuz the turret is exposed, remember the turret armor of ju to is rather weak.

[@Pingum0n]

2:20 LMFAOOOO QUICKYBABYY

[@badweathergaming4929]

Funny for me the Mitsu was a dream and the Ju Nu has been nothing but pain so far... I also dont have the top gun on it yet either though.

[@zdinc7268]

This is something that always bothers me about QB's reasoning and equipment. "The tank has low DPM, so I choose not to use a gunrammer." When a gunrammer is more effective on tanks with lower DPM. On the Mitsu, QBs DPM is at max 1483, but you would get better DPM with a no skill crew, no onigiri, and a gunrammer. And as QB has said in the past, DPM is incredibly important and one of the biggest aspects that raises the skill ceiling of a tank. Im not hating, im just a bit confused by the logic.

[@Giovani992]

Hello Mr. QB tier 8 and 9 are the Best for me Have a nice weekend

[@FJ-xz7yy]

QB : bad tank, not recommended. *plays it first time gets 6 kills Mastery badge, 37 medals, 500,000K credits.

[@kosztypatrik7028]

Even bad tanks can have a great game mate😏.

[@OTOss8]

Ju Nu is really fun. Sure the M6 is a little better but the Ju Nu is really fun.

[@s21k21]

yup ! Ju To is really frustrating ! ;) hoping the next one gets better.... but i dont think so :(

[@andiadmiralfs4321]

I have the heavy tank no VI and ju nu for tier vi in my garage. Honestly ju nu played better for some scenario compared to tiger. I even easily grind to tier vii ju to without even spending blueprint when reach a top gun and turret.

[@acrazedtanker1550]

How the hell does he still enjoy this game...props Quicky.

[@lewiswestfall2687]

Thanks QB

[@georgekn3mp]

Ju-Nu got me a Top Gun and Steel Wall in the same battle. Averages a LOT of damage. It really does compete well against anything less than a M6 at tier. But get into Tier 8 battle, good luck

[@thatguyoveryonder4774]

Got the Ace badge in the tier 6 the first day I unlocked it. It's a decent tank but is a hug gold shell magnet.

[@Shywer]

What equipment/ crewskills?

[@jarnom85]

Mitsu 108 got me first game of 2598 damage and 6 kills. With stock tank, stock gun. Second game wasnt bad either, 1700 damage but this time with top gun, fairly ok for Tier 5.

[@captain_context9991]

I did like the Ju-Nu. Its got a very reliable gun. But its like.... Its like a MID-RANGE sniper.

[@GregorianMG]

Feels like Vk 30.01P, except it has a bit worse turret armor and way better hull armor with similar gun and mobility.

[@kieranlong5671]

Tier 8 is kinda insane, is7 style hull all be it not strong but tier for tier still strong and a godly turret. Deffo the crown jewel of the line imo.

[@MrJozekKoxu]

But arty is messing up this, after 10 games on tier 8 I put heavy spall. Even tier 8 artys with splash hitted me for 400

[@SturmDrachen07]

Id say the Mitsu is just the continuation of what the Type 93 and Type 95 were at tier 3 and 4.

[@johnmccall4528]

That tier 7 reminds me a bit of the 'Tiger' from Saving Private Ryan.

[@julienderuyck6746]

I remember when regular Tiger I was not buffed 5-10 years ago, no armor like Ju-Nu T6 and not super fast gun with only 240 of alpha. It was awful to play after the excellent "mini-Tiger T6" with the funny hybrid gun Panzerwaffe at T6 now with a low caliber of 88 mm it has 280 of alpha and super fast reloading and more hit points !

[@hellvis2025]

I really love the t6 so far

[@josearaujo8616]

Is the role of an heavy to play on the ridge line?

[@Shaolink]

Will there be a video for T8-T10? We startet at T6 and its getting better tier for tier. We are at T8 right now and i like it.

[@Balc0ra]

NGL, the tier 5 and 6 were fun. The tier 5 I played in reverse most of the time as a support HT, and I've had surprisingly many 3K games as it's mobile too. Tier 6 was god awful stock, but super solid elite IMO.

[@GregorianMG]

Yeah, stock is pain for Ju-Nu, but once you get the gun, it's a very nice Heavy

[@njc964]

Skipped the tier 5. Will grind the tier 6 and then skip the tier 7 as much as possible.

[@princeps8980]

TY for showing the low tiers. Not every KZbinr do this.

[@igiveyoublue5108]

It’s been 3 weeks for me since i quit the game. I haven’t felt better before. I now spend my time more productively such as going outside.

[@jariheimoluoto4959]

Tier 8 is pretty good. One of the better tier 8 techtree tanks. Comparison with t29 and almost any tier 7 hevy is almost the same. T29 is just the best tier 7 heavy even now, even with the big gun.

[@zumadude1879]

I like the look of them, ill play them for that at least.

[@heacret]

I like the tier 6 so far, but not going any higher!

[@Craggs82]

The Mistu with the base gun loading gold is much better than the big alpha gun. Consider the grind with it if you can splash the cash.

[@prozac5314]

13:47 like Walkure from steel hunter

[@grunthostheflatulent2613]

The Mitsu 108 is a "glass gun" and should be played more like a TD than a heavy, if you try to brawl in this thing you will be back in the garage VERY quickly. So far I have played about 10 games and killed an average of 2-3 tanks per game so far just sniping from mid to long range....

[@justinadamson4115]

I started at tier 8 hated it, unless hull down the armour is paper and gun had bad pen. Tier 9 is good except for drivers hatch on front.

[@NJbldragon]

The tier 7 looks like a tank from Valkyria Chronicles.

[@chase8326]

The Mitsu 108 is painful. The rest of the line is pretty fun though.

[@Skott62]

Hopefully the t8-t10 are much better

[@cameronrudan7157]

There's a video somewhere on KZbin where two people from London who had gotten in a car accident get out of their cars. And the one guy holding the camera yells "OI YA FOCH'N SAUSAGE"

[@aboomination897]

I like the STB 1 and the new t10 is a fat STB 1, which makes it worth it, already.

[@20Redram00]

The tier 5 is a beast, I’m not a great player but 1 on 1 this thing eats any other tier 5 heavy

[@timnikitenko2389]

How do you guys get vehicle blue prints? Im on asia server and only blueprints i get from daily missions are those 1-3 universal fragments, 3 for the hardest mission, and maybe 1 or 2 faction specific fragments, although they are so rare that i dont even remember how many you get

[@GregorianMG]

Pretty sure the 1-3 universal fragments is actually the vehicle blueprints.

[@Firefocus-fz2we]

I'd say that the line is not great, not terrible. Just really meh if someone sees any piece of your hull.

[@4991Ares]

Ju-Nu feels like a tier 6 Tiger - what gave that away? The 88mm KWK used Tigers?

[@user-je9qp4hc9p]

so far, Japanese new heavys are more interesting then UK wheellys, and Chinese TD. Hope the 2 new line are also as interesting as these ones.

[@swftyz646]

Somebody has to please explain to me why you shouldn’t run a gun rammer when it’s dpm is low? Doesn’t make any sense to me why don’t boost it if it’s bad?

[@FJ-xz7yy]

Random matches a bit dire. Goodthing I can finish all dailies and battlepass in Onslaught

[@wkcw1]

I heard the Mitsu is called the Jappatog.

[@nuolis]

i am going to use vent,rammer,irm with these low tier heavies and when i can use stab,i use vent,rammer,stab.that amx 45 penned becouse 212/259mm pen with 240 dmg gun

[@aaaa9489]

ju-to looks kinda like a t-34/100 with a turret too wide for the hull and a panzer 4 h

[@strategicmind2652]

The Ju-Nu and Ju-To are really the only good ones, cause the T8-10 tanks just don't work

[@brealistic3542]

are you streaming today qb?

[@raph59799]

Can you please make a video of tanks to avoid in the different tech trees ?

[@Kerak21]

Just a warning to all who skip the tier 5,6,7 for the tier 8. The tier 8 has the worst tier for tier premium rounds at 252 and the standard rounds are in the middle of the pack at 225. The armor is troll but the weak spots are present especially against tier 9 10 guns.

[@roseman9505]

10:24 Bot detacted!!!!???? I think every one remember that QB made a video about that

[@edwintil5741]

It is as a big calliber gun should always be, inacurate but hitting hard

[@derbock203]

while the ju-nu is quite decent for the tier, the ju-to is a pain in the rear... the armor is weak, the dpm is meh, accuracy is bit better then meh and the mobility is okayish, but this feels more like a slow as and big as f*ck medium then like a actual heavy.

[@roope2004]

gold rounds should cost 20k a round because everyone spams them ant heavies are just not worth to play because most of the tanks shoot gold even lower tiers the hevies looks like paper

[@JDrumUK]

Just now starting the video, but initial reaction in facing them on the battlefield, no, they are not worth it. Have been crushing the Mitsu and Ju Nus.

[@davidballantyne4492]

T7 looks like a giant Pz IV Hydro

[@porkypile]

What the... *SHAVED!*

[@strelockyoussef4033]

i loved the tier 6 and 7 now im on 8 and its good too

[@catrionacolville2192]

Good compared to what?

[@strelockyoussef4033]

@@catrionacolville2192 a good solid tier 8 tank 9/10 why do i have to compare it to another tank

[@strelockyoussef4033]

@@catrionacolville2192 well i take it back the tier 8 is good armor wise but the damn penetration is uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuukh PREMIUM PEN IS 252 i cant pen AT15 he is orange i was easly doing 3k dmg in tier 6 and tier 7 this tank i can do 2k will sweat and tears tier 8 is trash and OMG that gun handling, if you aim and shoot without waiting for the second circle you gonna hit the moon, gun is shit i enjoyed playing with the BZ166 that people keeps saying its a bad tank well BZ166 is better than type 57

[@denesszirmai3250]

I mean, you said it during your streams they're good after t8

[@adamjohns2147]

The mitsu is the best of the lower tiers

[@keifferkenreyestuazon2625]

I ammo racked 2 full health Ju-Nu with 2 shots one right after the other on it's side armor in Tundra heavy line with my KV-3. i don't know if it's just luck or it needs experimental hardening

[@GregorianMG]

It has fairly vunerable ammo rack, I did once in a while get damaged ammo rack when got shot in the side.

[@pppship]

Lol, nice ad placement before the kill

[@rokchewerd982]

the tier 5 was horrible i thought...the 6 and 7 were both pretty good