Let's Play: Crusader Kings II -- The Count of Paris -- Ep 2

[@bryanread6663]

"The revolt was to put 'this guy' on the throne." 'This guy' is also known as Charlemagne, he's sort of a big deal.

[@unimportantcommenter673]

Bryan Read fun fact Charlemagne is to describe someone who is large. So he is really named “Big Charlie”

[@MrTeaust]

@@unimportantcommenter673 Ehm jep that was His Name Not really a funfact

[@IncomitatusExcelsior]

@@MrTeaust Charlemagne's name was not Charlemagne. It was Charles. I doubt anyone would have called him Charlemagne to his face while he was alive. "Charlemagne" means "Charles the Great" translated into modern English. It's perhaps a bit clearer when you see his name in Germany: Karl der Große. Anyway it's not a name. His name is part of it, but it's a title. You use it to talk *about* him, but you wouldn't say to him, "Hey, Charlemagne, wanna grab a beer?" You'd just call him Charles. Or Karl, if you're German.

[@michaelgoldsmith9359]

Unimportant Commenter no it means Charles the great Charlo mean Charles magne means great so nope not true

[@salimelmouaffaq1351]

@@IncomitatusExcelsior or Karel de Grote if your dutch

[@pasloot]

I like how in this game you're often just like a passenger in whatever is going on in the world around you.

[@RCmaniac1231]

Kinda like real life

[@MrTJPAS]

"My Count, a plague has struck Paris!" Quill: "Then I should make do something to improve the buildings here. Should I improve the hospital to help the people cope with the disease? Of course not, that money is better spent on improving my walls so those filthy commoners can't break in and loot what I have!" This is the Quill that we all know and love

[@mattbenz99]

He doesn't have the tech to improve his hospital. That gear symbol means your tech is too low to upgrade that building.

[@drutzzix]

He doesn't want the filthy commoners to steal his pickled boar's heads

[@Zeratulr]

Mmmm... Pickled boar's heads!

[@safe-keeper1042]

US government in 2020

[@Akranejames]

Count 2e71828 the Kingbreaker and the Kingmaker! Sounds great!

[@plants.plants]

Totally intentional faction strats to avoid the game over. Nice

[@rohde007]

definitely you should have married the homosexual genius

[@shreknet]

Yeah the lustful negates it. She was completely interested.

[@totalvvar]

He wants to revoke your title because it's the de jure capital of kingdom of france (which is his primary title) And AI is basically hardwired to go after de jure capitals of their primary titles

[@jonaslauritsen7326]

It is equally due to the fact that his demense is too small (3/9) and he wants more land. This drives him to revoke as much as possible, even if he goes over. If he goes over he then starts to give away titles.

[@danilooliveira6580]

then that is why AI gets revolts so damn often ?

[@harbl99]

"Go away Karl, this isn't Aachen!" (heh, crappy 4-holding province as the capital of the HRE. What was he even thinking?)

[@DaDunge]

It's so odd since Paris wasn't France's capital until after the end of the ck2 era. Before the court was moved to Versailles outside Paris in 1682 the French capital was in fact Reims.

[@davidnavratil5349]

seems like quill is going to have a hard time, you can see the current king doesnt like him much, so we may see revocation demand again next episode

[@cjbarnes3000]

Definitely watching this now, while in quarantine, and the "Life in Seclusion isn't so bad" popup comes up. 👀

[@DrLongWang]

Sir, you've been slandering yourself. My god, this cannot be tolerated, throw me in jail!

[@SweatyMathMajor]

3:30 That cough...I felt that.

[@kevinsiagian1436]

I think you chose the wrong one you sent your spymaster to build spy network in the byzantines instead of studying tech

[@BS-nw1qr]

10:30 The Food tracker for this event chaid doesnt exist, you just have to remember. Also, it' just seclusion-related event, it doesnt always trigger. Also, there's a sickness mapmode button. The last one in th second row.

[@iscrewy]

This is the highest-pitched intro I've ever witnessed.

[@harbl99]

Outreach to the under-served KZbin bat demographic.

[@Ghostly-00]

@@harbl99 lmaooo

[@tokun9629]

Should have married the genius woman.

[@danilooliveira6580]

that is ambitious and wouldn't really like him... I'm not sure if that is a good idea

[@ncjake8916]

Doesn't matter. Her kids would be his kids.

[@corvus1374]

For some reason, some kids of geniuses turn out slow.

[@svenzverg7321]

Definitely should. Gregarious, ambitious, deceitful, cynical genius lesbian. How the hell could you miss out on this one? She’s like 274% cooler, than his current embodiment of boredom.

[@TheSpicyLeg]

Made the mistake of marrying a genius/ambitious woman before on my Sussex playthrough. I had consolidated the duchies of Kent and Essex, as well as grabbed most of Wessex and all of Cornwall. I was in position to bring down Mercia and get situated to create the kingdom of England title. She did bear me a genius son, and a spare. I was happy, even thrilled. Then she murdered my only brother, whom I had given a barony. No big deal, I thought. Then she murdered me when my son was 11 years old while I was winning against the King of Mercia. Throwing me into a regency, I lost the war when my Saxony ally peaced out. She then botched up my genius son, weakened me to the point that Northumbria smelled blood in the water and evidently sowed discontent with my vassals until a rebellion arose. By the time I regained control and fought off Northumbria, I was broke and betrothed to an awful woman. Worse yet, Mercia had regrouped. It took me around 50 years longer than it should have to unite Britain. You could say that it was due to the Ambitious trait, but stupid ambitious is manageable while genius makes them too good at intrigue.

[@laurenwolfe7812]

Quill, the army splitting in CK2 is based on the liege levies and vassal levies raised from individual holdings. It'll split armies as evenly as it can, but it won't ever break up a holding's individual levy, which is why you get uneven splits all the time.

[@mathewm7136]

Correct. This always drives me crazy when trying to embark.

[@laurenwolfe7812]

Yeah, there are few things in CK2 more annoying than having like 20 dudes more than your ships can hold and having to remove hundreds of them to fit them

[@mathewm7136]

....or splitting a 1,000 man army to fit into a 6 fleet just to get a 200 & 800 force.

[@zozulya2]

"she gave me 2 sons and i was in love with her multiple times"....ha ha ha Quill, you're the best man... :)

[@sovietPlays]

Im going to keep this information about myself to myself...yes...

[@shanwyn]

Ah how I missed quill to play CKII. I found this channel back in the days when he played this in Hispania. Good old times :-) Hope you'll play this more, its so much fun watching you

[@chandlers7341]

I am loving this let's play man, it is very good, i am currently trying to learn more of the mechanics of CKII, so this is helping well. Keep up the good work!

[@honestabhe3138]

If you did end up learning more, could you tell me why he wasnt forced to join the civil war?

[@kamikiku]

Kill your barons and take their castles. Personal levy is best levy. Also, congrats on causing a revolt to keep your land. I'm sure your joining of a faction beforehand was "just as planned" rather than complete fluke? :P Side note - it was nice of him to make you chancellor and all, but given that you (inadvertently) got your previous King out of prison and back on the throne, you'd think he'd have a slightly better opinion of you, it was about -50 or something, the ungrateful arse.

[@RAYNE0912]

I mean, he also did nothing while said king got put in prison in the first place, probably lucky the king decided to essentially call it even.

[@aciarduce]

Would say that if you are going to spend gold on your holdings to upgrade them (and you should), castle town is easily one of the first if not THE first to get. The earlier the better and the more it can help you improve down the road. If you are small in this game, make every improvement you can to survive against just about anything, and go for the long term; investing in making more gold in as long a term as possible works well (er... at least better).

[@MrTohawk]

I really thought it was over

[@thakillman7]

Amount of Paris: 1 End of series.

[@electrostatic1]

The king you freed from prison and put back on the throne appears to hate you for it. lol.

[@kungfuchef8500]

oh wait... so Karloman is actually Carloman... and Karl is the actual Charlemagne? All this time I thought Quill had Charlemagne as liege...

[@banazir8645]

While "Karloman" sounds more like "Charlemagne", the "-magne" part of "Charlemagne" just means "the Great"; his original name was just "Charles"/"Karl".

[@siegesquirrel42]

"Paris is still fine, so far." 3 seconds later: smallpox spreads to his county

[@KodeeDentares]

I was sad when I got to the end of last episode; glad to see another! I'm really enjoying this run!

[@xrogaan]

The remaining food is an hidden tooltip, you can't see how much remains. Event will fire randomly to reduce the remaining food available, which can lead to pretty drastic situation.

[@blackfalcon1324]

I will say, one of the things I really dont like about this game is how war works. You go to war with a country, beat them up completely but you can only take the one tiny county you had a claim to. Because that is how war works. You push an entire nation into submission and then only take one town.

[@ahmedtevez]

man i am hyped for this lets play.

[@IanCrossland]

The revolt was someone within your country; your leader [got imprisoned?] and the revolt ended; then, Karl took over your country and unified France (it's coded into the game for Karloman to die and give the country to Karl, as that's what happened during the rise of Charlemagne (Karl is Charlemagne.).).

[@Scott-lf6wl]

Karloman never survives? Thought this was about alt-history.

[@callmebarry2931]

Karloman has a slight chance of living IF Charlemagne dies before 771, or if Karloman wins a war against Charlemagne. Other than that, Charlemagne always lives and then proceeds to bordergore Europe to death.

[@SithLandlord]

Watching this during 2020 COVID-19 Crisis and the epidemic outbreak is kinda is a little too close to home.

[@Ryanfinder226]

As far as I know, food supply is currently a hidden modifier. But higher prosperity and the more developed your barony, the more food you have

[@TotoDG]

Country roads, take me home, where I belong, West Francia.

[@Brazbrah]

Wow what an episode!

[@huzaifa8665]

I was so excited he was gonna become emperor when he revolted. stupid charlemagne. Also this game teaches quite a lot. how counts, dukes etc would be more intersted in personal affairs than about empires and kings and what not

[@DondarfSnowbonk]

I'm watching this fullscreen, so every time he gets a high priority notice I try to pause, read it, and dismiss it because I think I'm playing for a second.

[@keyonhutson1539]

When you start off hoping you might manage to become a duke by the end of your like but then end up leading a rebellion and putting the old king back in power.

[@inperatieloos]

So why'd half of Francia join in that rebellion? is it because he was in a faction? is that new with this patch?

[@GatsbyCioffi]

inperatieloos I'm guessing that anybody who had a faction against Charlemagne at the time joined in once a rebellion actually fired. Either that, or something opinion based. It may be something special with tbe Charlemagne expansion, too, who knows, lol

[@AnastasiaKulibina]

If you are in a faction when your liege tries to revoke your title and you refuse, the faction revolt fires immediately. He was UNBELIEVEABLY lucky for there to be a faction with 121% to exist at the time of revocation.

[@brandonvaughn7255]

So if he had accepted the title revocation would that have actually ended his game or would he just get demoted?

[@inperatieloos]

No, he would have lost his only title, can't play the game without that. Usually, you might as well accept cause with 400 and so much man he would have gotten trampled by the king's forces, guess he got insanely lucky this time

[@mattbenz99]

It was because he joined the faction. Quill was incredibly lucky that he joined that faction. I doubt he knew how this mechanic worked.

[@larsvandeboer9472]

All the expansions up to and including Jade Empire? Haven't heard of that one, sounds interesting.

[@shacklock01]

Cant split armies exactly half beacuse the smallest unit is a specific holdings levvy, therefore is sized at whatever size that unit currently is.

[@kinganzelak]

Sorry. A few questions which perhaps should be obvious but I can't find answers for. I'm coming back to CK2. Which expansion is giving the kids blonde hair? And which expansion has the buttons to press for changing the name? I don't have Jade Dragon, Monks and Mystics or Conclave (and, if I'm honest, I'm not particularly excited about any of them). I'm missing a lot of the crappy non-portrait content packs too.

[@mathewm7136]

As a general rule for picking a child's focus/tutor - boys get diplomacy or stewardship as they may eventually inherit while girls get intrigue or theology. If you marry them to someone with titles/claims, there is always the chance that they'll intrigue the holdings into the family and if they end up as your heir, the theo will help offset the bishop relationship neg. mod.

[@Jackasaurus]

Have to say, enjoy watching you a lot more than Arumba, you actually take the time to read events :P

[@jamestargin2957]

19:10 That says West Francian Revolt, not East

[@MrGhosta5]

When does Quill capture Brussels?

[@frantisekvrana3902]

22:20 Count of Paris beating King of France? No, you beat Karl the Great, the king of Frankia. Before 24.12.800, when he was to become the emperor. And then one of his descendants, Charles III. the Fat was to abdicate in favor of Odo, the count of Paris, who would become the first king of France in 888. But by beating Karl the not yet great in 778, you probably changed the course of history.

[@JohnLaDot]

My favourite content.

[@dandywizard1843]

Thinking about it if you are a count and it gets revoked, you don't lose. There are adventurers you know.

[@Great_Olaf5]

IIRC, the AI no longer cancels betrothals on their own initiative. I remember having fallen in rank from king to count and the HRE still didn't cancel the betrothal of their daughter with my son.

[@lladerat]

Haha, huge revolt against king tyranny, thousands of dead, blood and death everywhere but people have won and title revocation is no more!! AAAaand its back again almost immediately. This game simulates reality better then reality itself...

[@ariton2990]

When are you going to do some FM 18??

[@bazvink]

soo.... lemme see if I got this. It starts out with a West and Central Francia. Then West Francia takes over Central Francia. Then some count in Paris starts an uprising that overthrows the West Francia ruler and puts the old Central Francia ruler on the throne? So... the ideal union of the two kingdoms: Keep the name of one and the ruler of the other....

[@angeliconoreenfyro4017]

how did u get Orleans. im so confused. i can't get a land

[@vchalmel]

Think out of the box, capetian style, how can the king deprive you of your title if YOU are the king ? ;)

[@Arraxis_Denacia]

Same way he was blackmailing himself, clearly :P

[@frantisekvrana3902]

Yes he can! By abdicating.

[@nunyabuidness4849]

That title revoking can be a pain when you have a single title. It has happened to me far too frequently. Makes playing a count with no ambitions for land grabbing a poor option.

[@nerijusvilcinskas7851]

So you actually get control of all armies because you are leader of the revolt? Can someone tell me if I am correct.

[@kafkaesx]

yes. the fact that he joined a faction before clicking decline to the king's plan to revoke paris has triggered the rebellion with all of the vassals involved in the faction, and somehow making quill the leader of the revolt. had he not joined the faction, this series would be over lol

[@FernandoSV]

what's the dlc giving them different faces?

[@tonygordo7458]

War day one priorities 1- Compare enemies armies. 2- Raise men close and group up asap.

[@jtoohey12]

Man I know the rulers name is supposed to be random characters, but 2E is how you pronounce my last name and it confuses me every time he says it

[@tonygordo7458]

Since the Liege tried to revoke your title, any vassal can join the Tyranny war in your side. (Diplomatic saved you) It is normal happen to the AI and you will be asked to join the rebellion for 0 prestige cost if denied.

[@XiaoYueMao]

nope, its because he was in a faction, if any member of a faction revolts every member rises up with them automatically, if he didnt join that faction he would be all alone

[@tonygordo7458]

The war was not about the Council, any time a ruler revoke a title and someone refuses RIGHTFUL( when not a traitor or liege has claim) a War Against Tryranny fires and any vassal can join the cause if dislikes liege, or deny for 0 prestige cost.

[@XiaoYueMao]

no, it was, when the faction revolt fires due to a member of the faction refusing to get their land revoked it merges the two causes, as you can tell, in the peace deal, the council power DID get increased, as per the factions wishes, it simply also merged Quills goal to make the king abdicate this is a legitmate and document feature of the game

[@tonygordo7458]

Well the liege did accept the "Increase Council power" ultimatum :D War against Tyranny is trigged when refuses to accept revoke of title. Check Wiki Alina. "Legitimate and document feature of the game"

[@XiaoYueMao]

Yes, but it takes a few days for everyone to join the war, if you notice everyone revolted the MOMENT he hit his button.... this was people FORCED into the war, like i said before, its a MERGE of the two wars, yes, people joined the tyrrany part, but umlitmately it was the faction revolt that revolted the moment he refused the title revocation that saved him

[@ohsnapitzsean]

I see this is the 2020 episode

[@smickles]

Daughter Scott Manley?!!?

[@SaltedSnacks]

Smickles oh my god youre right

[@Turambar88]

"So the revolt was to put this guy on the throne?" You mean Charlemagne?

[@DamnDaimen]

5:37 Just a bit, eh? Someone needs to learn to be a touch more fabulous.

[@bjrn2010]

I always marry the genius when I start in that age.

[@greenmushroom4258]

This whole story reminds me of the foundation novels where the mayor of wye was looking to dethrone the emperor

[@JBGarrison72]

Just read Prelude to Foundation again earlier this year... apt reference green mushroom. :)

[@vietimports]

a ck2 letsplay at max speed. we c00

[@Frahamen]

It's not a tuuumor!!

[@TBDF12]

Ha you reinstated your old king after releasing him from prison on accident he has to love you now he may even allow a marriage

[@Turinnn1]

Trying to play ck2 drunk... despite my 1500hours played I keep messing up. Makes it kinda interesting tho. No min_maxing just arbitrary chaos

[@hazzballgaming6790]

you know you wont be able to show off any of the Jade features, right? Jade Dragon is solely based on the interaction with China. The only possible way to do anything with the DLC in this playthrough is by conquering at least ONE province near the Empire.

[@bellasliv432]

Become inmortal

[@Partyffs]

immortal*

[@levipritchett1416]

Could he now marry one of Karl's kid because they are not heirs but they have claims on Everything

[@cptmiller132]

drama-llama -quill18 2017

[@carlsun8380]

You're no longer chancellor -_-

[@Septimus_ii]

why not?

[@antonionotmyrealnamo6333]

Gay Genius! gah!

[@norwegianviking7133]

Always marry genius and strong :/

[@walnzell9328]

Small Pox OP! Plz nerf

[@youtoob4life]

Am I the only one who thinks the "millions of babies" long game plan is terrible? It never worked out for me, way too many power struggles and the inbreeding is too real after 100-150 years.

[@TheSpicyLeg]

I only use the tons of kids at start of game, where unexpected deaths can be problematic. Later on, it becomes a hot mess to have 6 boys in gavelkind, not to mention the power struggles. Once I've got a king title and my power base set with primo, I will even marry off excess sons in matrilineal marriages to areas far enough that they won't be a problem, but close enough to get opinion bonus from children of the line. So, like, if I'm in Germany, Aquitaine, Lombardy, Denmark.

[@kyleisthelitnessog9484]

Smart gay catholic nice

[@kolymogaming]

pls stop the annoying intro that 90% of youtubers do ffs pls

[@pineapplejuice2439]

Second comment

[@countryboy9813]

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