Quin FLOORED Watching "Why Diablo 4 Players Hate Last Epoch"

[@MultiDeathwatcher]

I know Diablo 4 gets a lot of hate, but personally, i don't think it gets enough.

[@reyno94]

Baseg HOLY

[@kippakeppa1731]

I choked on my Seneschal.

[@PATCHESZ9]

Lmfao😂😂😂

[@lordgrimgaming]

Lol i almost spat my tea on my keyboard.

[@GW2KillerBEE]

I have never heard of this joke before...d4 bad but this joke old and lame.

[@Frostylaroo]

OMG Thanks so much for watching my video!!! Your Diablo Immortal videos are probably a core memory for me now. no sarcasm here

[@OVERKILL_PINBALL]

Sarcasm level 0 ;)

[@MonochromeMemories]

Great video man.

[@Matt-gf4gd]

Everyone's watching it. This is my 4th time after asmongold, DM and rhykker all reacted.

[@jayce8978]

banger video !

[@AllrightNOR]

Legendary

[@Lucas-lp9kh]

d4 is the d4 killer itself

[@bjorndebar8361]

Diablo was killed by Poe a long time ago, my argument is that the rpg elite, the best rpg players, play in Poe, only Diablo fanboys and casual players play in Diablo. But LA is going to be good, I'm hyped.

[@banishedbr]

@@bjorndebar8361 not really, the decision of having that stupid idk wilson guy making stupid decisions in dmg scaling and UNICORNS was the most stupid decision some1 coul d take in life

[@youdonegoofed]

can't kill what's already dead lol

[@Magnus-q7g]

It's been the theme for Blizzard games, WoW was the WoW killer, Diablo was the Diablo killer, OW2 was the OW killer, and Starcraft died of OD or something idk what happened but yeah Blizzard didn't need another game to kill their games, they were able to do it them selves.

[@banishedbr]

@@Magnus-q7g ow was already the new thing, so it was never alive tbh, can't kill a deadborn

[@breezy831]

Keep in mind LE is just entering 1.0 release. I'm excited for release but I'm even more excited to see what the game looks like after a few seasonal cycles and patches. It has major potential.

[@Kevfactor]

hopefully they can put some enemies in the zones hehe

[@csekpeter921]

it literally has more content already then d4 after 3 season worth of patches and content

[@Mayhemzz]

@@Kevfactor They know density has problems and are making adjustments in 1.0 and will continue to afterwards if it still feels lacking.

[@craigsaddington6430]

its literally poe lol. Skills with skill trees xD

[@Mayhemzz]

@@craigsaddington6430 PoE skills don't have skill trees have you literally ever played the game?

[@irvine774]

Why are these LE devs so dedicated to a game? I want diablo 4 style where the devs just ignore everything and then tweet we are listening to feedback

[@renzuki5830]

True it's disgusting. What ever happened to companies who truly neither understand but also despise their playerbase. Blizzard is a shining light in that department.

[@mr.nobody5279]

Man at least with D4 i know i will be welcomed by a nice popup about a new cosmetic in the store everytime i login so that i can spend 30$ on a horse that has a different colour! It really made me sick when i found out that LE cares more about the gameplay instead of giving us new cosmetics every day imagine actually having gameplay but no 20 mounts with a different colour.

[@AnotherRealSmitty]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHy3nnawfNl7atUsi=MMWWX162oIjQRaIv&t=307 sums it

[@SirZipper]

@@renzuki5830 Large corporations practically become like poachers working at a zoo. They'll end up killing every animal to make a profit then wonder why nobody is visiting the zoo.

[@doesntMetter1]

Last time I played Last Epoch was in 2021 and it was already better than D4 today

[@w.schulz6196]

D4 sucks so hard still a beta game

[@Memeguppy]

Alpha game*

[@hmercer44]

Beta is an over statement

[@schmidth]

beta games can have good game design. D4 doesn't. Big difference

[@Ahreman_egy]

Last epoch still beta and had more fun playing it

[@edrsa]

I loved the D4 beta and then it turns out full game was the same shit just repeated

[@Huckle777]

D4's skill twig was the reason I never bought the game. I still am utterly lost at how they managed to make a skill 'tree' more barren than diablo 2... Even diablo 3 had 2-3x the choice... It's absolutely mind boggling.

[@Deusaga]

Bahahah Skill Twig!!! hahahahaaha so good.

[@banishedbr]

d3 is as bad as d4, same tree in disguise

[@Korcunu]

My normie non-arpg enjoyer friend gifted d4 to me just to complete the story in coop and check out various builds, and even he was disappointed in the end 😑

[@banishedbr]

@@Korcunu i wouldn't even to my worst enemy, disgusting

[@Korcunu]

@@banishedbr lmao

[@joshuawoodard6998]

13 year old D3 was deeper than 2023 $80 game.

[@autismawarenessford2community]

How do you know with it being only season 3?

[@Delusional-People]

It shouldnt need 30 seasons to add content, They did that with d3 and the game failed.... they had years to add actual content not just some boring story ​@autismawarenessford2community

[@omulamfibie]

@@autismawarenessford2community because a $70 game shouldn't need a whole freaking year to get to the point where it's decent. And yes, D3 sucked ass on launch as well, but that's exactly the point, they have learned absolutely nothing from it. 6 years in development with a team of over 9000 people just to get this half assed game out? Bruh. Meanwhile, games like BG3, Helldivers 2, Last Epoch come out from indie companies that have had WAY fewer resources and are absolute masterpieces. You cannot NOT be mad about it.

[@autismawarenessford2community]

⁠@@omulamfibieI cannot be mad because as an adult male. I don’t get mad at such trivial stuff. But again, no one can answer. It’s the same copy/paste statement while everyone continues to play. That’s the whole point. The game was finished and at launch had more content than d2 and d3. You just parroted something you saw on Facebook. Misery loves company. And you, like others, are complaining about not only unrealistic issues but expectations you don’t apply to ANY other game. Helldivers isn’t a masterpiece. Reload and stim delay, horrid farmability with a load screen that’s minutes long. 1 good primary weapon late game. 1 good support weapon late game. Shield pack is also a must. It’s a 3rd person objective based shooter with an ammo economy. You think it’s a masterpiece because you were told to think it. The best part about the game is the players and the jokes. The game itself is extremely basic and dated. Doesn’t mean it isn’t awesome. It is. The D4 issue is, y’all aren’t smart enough to forge your own opinion and see what’s happening….A) drama content does wayyyyyy better monetization wise. Like…astronomically better. That’s why they do these videos. They aren’t sincere, they just need money. You don’t look at logistics, so you don’t know. 2) you continue to say games with less features are better. This is safe for you because there’s other morons that don’t see the irony or contradiction. All because you were influenced by social media. You’re a puppet. And your feelings are going to be hurt, I don’t mean to hurt them. I’m just being honest. We had a massive article exposing the D4 witch hunt. It was entirely fabricated. A lot of bot accounts that said verbatim the same thing. These weren’t even real people. But they said the same thing. Now you’re going to want to say “a lot of people having the same problem with the game isn’t weird”. Correct, it isn’t…if it was real. The accounts were saying the same thing in Starfield and Baldurs gate pages. “No end game, incomplete, too many bugs.” It’s a hard pill to swallow because you want to feel independent. But your logic for other games being good is what makes D4 a great game to you. Youre just doing what you think is popular. And thats complaining.

[@nogerboher5266]

Blizzard has been profiteering and scamming people by making cash-grab games since 2010... And 2011 was about when their higher ups and actual workers within the company went through a massive change due to OVER 2 THOUSAND people either leaving or being fired over the course of only 3 years, from 2007 to 2010 (and that was back when Blizzard had ''only'' about 4,000 employees) and just COINCIDENTALLY that's when the whole game logic, design and game dev system changed to a way more cash grabby one. Who would have thought?! It's just a coincidence, right?! The Blizzard conspiracy theory goes like this: The companies higher ups were planning to do that all along ever since they saw just how much money they made from WoW;Wotlk release in 2008 and 2010. The thousands of employees that got swapped, were actually indirectly forced to quit/got fired on purpose for the sole purpose of them being able to go through with this plan - and when you realize that other big companies such as Apple, Google, Leica, T-Mobile, Ford, Hyundai and many, many more actually did the same exact thing, then you also realize that this conspiracy isn't actually a conspiracy...

[@gadereel2]

The fireball tree part was genius xD

[@Corusame]

Its almost as if all these other ARPG games are being made by people who enjoy playing ARPG's. Who'd of thought it.

[@renzuki5830]

Yea that's terrible. How can one play a game where the corporate greed isn't oozing out of the pixels ? How can we feel like we are living in a late stage capitalistic dystopia when the people who make the game are actually having fun playing their own game ? That's a slippery slope right there I am not sure we should go down.

[@matejbosela9093]

was to be expected from LE - the team was joined by a few distinguished, 1.0-2.0 POE players (Sarno was unofficial tech+forum CM at the time, before Bex joined).

[@Th3_n3rdtavrn]

Just bought this game last night after asmon reacted to this video. Started as a primalist and have had a blast hust running around with my thorn totem and the spikes skill. What sold me was the skill trees within the skills themselves. So much diversity, game is insane so far. I just want my time and hours back from D4 so i can toss it here instead.

[@oldskoolsurvivor]

the most fun imo is just making your own builds and seeing what happens

[@Th3_n3rdtavrn]

@@oldskoolsurvivor storm totem+max number of thorn totems is nuts. So much clear, this game is amazing.

[@gadereel2]

I also started with the druid and wanted to try something else around lvl 70, I made a new character a Rogue Falconer and Divebomb is awesome. I am having a blast, reminds me of early ages of PoE playing with the archer and old Ragnarok Online archer that also had a falcon.

[@KarnivoreHG]

the skill tree comparison was the best part lol

[@Syllaren]

Set items are actually kinda cool in last epoch. They are mostly just kinda bad, but a lot of them are weird enough you can make a build around them. Sets aren't strong, they are just very odd. They often give benefits you wouldnt expect like changing the element of an attack or something. They seem to just encourage theory crafting. Hoping to see more.

[@IrishBiteGirl]

They are niche. Like the electric damage set for Mage. You can make an electric fireball build with it, that drops electric meteors whenever you crit.

[@WhatIfTheories]

Monolith's do have several static bosses though then there is Shade of Orobos to defeat and push corruption. With that said LE is hype and having a blast playing it.

[@DiscoPornoSatan]

But they are arbitrarily increasing in power through corruption, it's not like a static boss that is X hard and takes quite the grind to be able to overcome. So once you push that higher corruption you kind of have the mechanics etc. down from farming the lower corruption levels.

[@Mayhemzz]

Shade is anything but a pinnacle boss. It's more of a nuisance after you've done it 100 times pushing corruption. The hardest content in LE outside of extremely high corruption monos is T4 dungeons. Those bosses will fuck you up if you're not careful.

[@mrtoothless]

Monolith's what?

[@warlordbk]

Id love to see the D4 devs react to this video lmfao

[@DefineHatespeech]

“I don’t understand, we didn’t do anything wrong, it’s just the players are all hateful” -🤡

[@mrfr1endly767]

Since they are not into ARPG content, i doubt it.

[@guitarsolos89]

​@@mrfr1endly767lmao next level roast 😂

[@SuperCatacata]

They would actively agree with the sarcasm, thinking the vid was serious.

[@thanks86]

D4 is already dead. LE's potential is limitless. Devs are actually gamers.

[@KrigHammar]

I wouldn't say D4 is dead, some people still play it, enjoy it. So be it. But there are people who really wants more than that whom expected really more than this. And they are really disappointed. And they gonna move towards poe2 and LE

[@gobira26]

Dead as there's no way they could fix it because the devs arent gamers and dont know shit about arpgs@@KrigHammar

[@KrigHammar]

@@gobira26 I am gonna wait to the S4 itemization changes and give one more chance to the game. But don't get me wrong, I don't have high expectations. So I don't think it's gonna work out. But you know, I am 36, diablo1 was my first game ever I played so blizz has the old nostalgic love in my heart even if I know they didn't make anything good since StarCraft2

[@Mayhemzz]

@@KrigHammar I think this is the general sentiment around Blizzard entirely at the moment. Most of us grew up playing amazing games like D1/2, WC2/3 and SC2. We're all hanging onto what little shred of hope we still have that Blizzard might once again be a company worth following.

[@Svevid]

just wish d4 graphics were married to this system, wouldve been amazing. wasted over 100$ on d4 cant get myself to go back to it

[@FloDrum2107]

I’ll be buying LE later this week, been wanting to play it and D4 so dogshit I need an Arpg to bounce around in

[@renzuki5830]

Cant go wrong, the current content is already worth the price tag. Enjoy mate.

[@FalleNDragonn]

Fireball killed me 🤣🤣

[@kaylemain2006]

The random FLYFF reference I wasn't expecting.

[@adgato75]

That's a blast from the past.

[@bennynutts16]

D4 devs should be ashamed really

[@HumanThoughtExpression]

< Principle Skinner "am I out of touch" meme goes here >

[@Tranquilized_]

This video is so good, i like to imagine there are D4 gamers watching it and pogging out but that would be crazy, right?

[@Huckle777]

So many people in Asmon's chat took like 5minutes to realize it might be satire... lmfao

[@teacherlion]

I think set items have a place in the game. They shouldn't be end game gear but I think they would work well for leveling alts and low / mid level characters.

[@Deminese2]

They would and its clear in practice if you go play the D2 mod MedianXL they have sets but most of them are mid tier gear. Only a couple builds use them in end game and even then its 4 pieces of gear not all of it.

[@Knetterkoekje]

D4 bad LE good

[@dongquixote7Q6]

i like set items not used as a leveling or grinding item but for cosmetics and collection and completing a set item gives me a sense of fulfilment every time i completed a set piece ❤

[@videoradeon]

Diablo 4 achieved the feat of being worse than Diablo 3. Even in terms of graphics, Diablo 3 is more attractive, has more atmosphere. In Diablo 4, the graphics look like artificial intelligence tools were used to create worlds, maps and physical models of characters. The price of the game went beyond common sense. It's a generic game, with no life, no content, no artistic personality, no variety of items and builds. It was all done in a hurry to sell cosmetics in the Blizzard store. Grim dawn for me is still my favorite arpg.

[@EnzordG]

I still believe that D4 is an april's fool joke.

[@Coogi999]

LS don't even have 20000% damage buff in their tier sets LOL

[@Th0rvidTheViking]

I don't mind sets in ARPGs really, as long as they aren't so strong that they make doing anything else pointless once you have them. Sets that change how a character plays, but not make them more powerful than a build used by non set items can be really interesting to work towards and be a fun reward for hunting everything down.

[@AmierAzzeal]

Now im considering getting Last Epoch.

[@kalebgrubb2272]

I haven’t touched D4 in months. I’m done with it.

[@williamantonio9743]

I absolutely love how the guy talks like Infographics Show, he even had a similar (if not the same) BGM lol.

[@xxxx85]

"Let's look at our options. We can either do more damage with Fireball, or over here we can do more CRIT damage with fireball." 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 D4 SO BAD

[@home2341]

HAHAHAHA FR

[@krolik4883]

Diablo 4 doesn't need any assassins. It will kill itself.

[@teacherlion]

Diablo 4 is perhaps the most badly designed game of all time when you consider how much money and resources they had to create the game. Looks good. Combat is OK. Systems are all terrible.

[@bjorndebar8361]

and the instances in D4 are all Copy and Paste . This is so embarrassing!

[@kylerutledge11]

I love how i get a d4 ad while watchign this

[@Paulenski]

Wow hearing Flyff to be used as an example, that shit game had some good systems but was overshadowed by its heavy monetization. Even the leveling and class systems were fun when xp events happened atleast. I remember hitting 105 for the first time and getting a maxed +10 blade set. Multi boxing your own RM, good times

[@mariusmegas777]

Billposter here I played on Kern server good times

[@deltablaze77]

IDEA: "Rune of Fate" a 50/50 of either acting as a Rune of Shatter or giving the item +X Potential. (Only drops at like level 90+, or maybe a blessing that can make them drop)

[@5133937]

@8:17 I'm not a fan of sets either, I prefer mixing and matching legendary effects. Sets lock you into a particular playstyle with less modifiability, and you have to target farm them which gets tedious.

[@CarnifaxMachine]

Luckily in LE there aren't any real game-breaking sets. I honestly don't even know of any builds that use set pieces. They have some cool features but I think the devs knew what they were doing when they made them.

[@jamesrustles8670]

​@@CarnifaxMachineI haven't seen much of LE but if you have played POE are sets in LE like the farruls set

[@melissasven8087]

i love D2 sets. They are mostly for leveling and nobody cares in late game. There are some classes (sorc) that may pick up a 2/3/4-piece bonus, but most of the time you just equip other stuff. And for leveling its not even that the sets are overpowered, they are just good enough, so that you can run with them without having to worry about picking up upgrades along the way

[@schwurbelschmock2240]

no 70 bucks...no AAAA game.

[@mithicash1444]

On the skill trees, i do have to say that the way D4 skill trees are setup it looks like they could easily expand the trees for skills. I would be mind blown if they don't do it with expansions eventhough i probably still wont play it.

[@wetpenguin]

sorry, could someone explain to me why is quinn not going to play Last Epoch on release?

[@Gwapco]

Flyff bro was crazyyyy as a kid

[@Linykocour]

TBH, I don't really want to keep and go through more than 250 items "just in case"...

[@counterhit121]

Dang what build is that Raxx is playing? Looks 🔥

[@the1deadman543]

The 4 damage Diablo 4 druid is so painful , and so true 🤣

[@frenchdream330]

D4 will be good in season 10 copium

[@oldskoolsurvivor]

spoiler: it won't

[@reaper5454]

Diablo 4 devs have changed the glyphs to where you can't feel powerful anymore so...I don't really care about diablo 4 anymore

[@kylekilgore291]

D4 was my first ever deep dive into an aRPG and by deep dive I mean sinking a lot of hours. I wasn’t around for d2 when blizzard was “north” or so I hear. D4 is okay and has potential but the past 3 days I’ve played last epoch 40 hours and as a D4 player I LOVE Last Epoch and it’s a PERFECT middle ground between d4 and PoE. Trust me. PLAY IT! You won’t regret it if you like d4.

[@OVERKILL_PINBALL]

There is so much trolling going on with these KZbinrs lol

[@curtisbrockman2682]

I'm not going to go over the top defending D4. It's got bad loot, bad skill trees and other issues. However I don't understand the stash complaint. The level of hoarding that I've seen people do is absurd. I've played on and off since release and leveled several characters. There just isn't enough loot in the game, period, to fill those stash tabs.

[@permanent8387]

yeah i gotta agree! there is no illusion of choice if there is no choice to begin with as seen on diablo

[@Khrann]

If you can close an eye on the overall graphics and sound compartment, the game is a blast.

[@Noone95noxchi]

I'm a Diablo player and dude I got bored 4 months ago and never went back and already forgot that Diablo exists.. Blizzard is like a cheap company pleasing for money and acting like OnlyFans!

[@voodooreptiles3553]

Diablo4 players should be embarrassed to even admit it.

[@the1deadman543]

Also fun fact. Mike , i think hes the senior dev in last epoch . But hes a huge fan of diablo 2. So there is TRUE gamers making this game. They get it. Not some corporate cash grab.

[@HarvestrX]

I'm a longtime Diablo player. D2 was the best. I'm enjoying D4 hella more than D3! As for Last Epoch, I love it! I can't wait for the official launch. I put my Necromancer on hold only because I want to play in the new cycle, not in the Legacy option. I wish LE maps were a bit more wide open, but overall the game is great. The crafting system is way cool! The classes seem cool too.

[@randomencounter8984]

"Is the a ladder for different classes" Like damn Quin... You should not worry about that since you will never get there. Unless you you can filter it to show from last ones first.

[@Jigglexphysics]

The amount of D4 fan copium in these comments is so fucking funny omg💀

[@syllycatface]

to be fair as a d3/4 casual i never fill stash tabs, and i played d3 for YEARS on and off, i just dont give a shit about items because power creep was so nuts on d3 that an item from 3 months ago was like 10% of the damage of a current one

[@CreativeGamingUploads]

Diablo 4 is just a cosmetic sales platform with a knockoff diablo addon created by the very company that owns the diablo IP

[@ivanbutcharsky4790]

D4 was fun but bad and it's gone ,all praise the Raise of LE 😊

[@Ender7j]

I think the lack of stash space in D4 happened because they didn’t think we’d keep any of the shit items we find.

[@3trilliontrees]

Ok I just bought Last Epoch to make the community more toxic

[@cza6254]

diablo 4 is a fancy and beautifull box. But with nothing inside. LE isnt that fancy, but has true content.

[@mr.warden124]

D4 is is so dead most its player base went back to play D3 S30

[@Fevett1]

the outro is sick

[@mgee9130]

Kind of sad that I actually had fun 3-4 days playing D3 season 30 while after less then 2h on D4 I was like fuck this and decided to wait for last epoch launch.

[@Americangrunt357]

at lease d4 is actually playable last epoch cant even play online and if you can its 5+ min to load changing areas

[@MrDarkBM]

I agree monoliths need work and a way to customize them more

[@brbrd102]

Quin never pushed high corruption endgame monoliths where the bosses can present challenges for all but the most broken builds. The chase is there.

[@IGniTo100]

Oh boy, I already hate this game so much. I will buy it and play for hundreds of hours just to prove to the devs how much I hate it.

[@Mike-lp9rv]

I felt like I overpaid for a demo game but that's my fault for buying Blizzard games for many years never again..

[@bingebam6120]

They were planning on selling stash tabs but realised they would have been crucified 😂

[@jcline87]

D4 never gonna leave beta.

[@TNTspaz]

You know. I feel like ARPG's expose how people like to pretend to be stupid. I've never seen so many people actively insult themselves when it comes to video games. These games aren't any more complicated than MMO's and vastly more people play MMO's. They look at a few icons and think they need to be a chess grandmaster to full comprehend them.

[@Drawzor]

This game will be the Diablo killer untill po2 realse.

[@spacecreated6820]

I guess you can't kill what's already dead

[@fireproofcooke8440]

Bro season 3 was the diablo killer 😂

[@jgsource552]

the only killer for diablo is blizzard.. Like they have been the past fucking decade

[@reregfys7169]

it doesn't need to be killed by anything. they are doing that them selfs already :P

[@kgar06]

quin says LE monolith of fates is bedge... Heist x 100 runs is fun? Mapping is...fun? Strand x 100 enjoyable? lol And at the end he says he wont play it at launch...but he will,1000% within a few days. He'll see every streamer and all his arpg streamer friends playing and want to play it too. login. LE > POE

[@EtherealRune]

Lol, the one comment in Quin's chat from 'Xypha' regarding stash tabs "You actually don't need that many, you're a hoarder and have problems if you do." Then later continues to say: "i'm yet to fill more then half my stash and played the first 2 seasons no problem." He's actually being serious and thinks he makes a legit argument. Imagine being that stupid. Also, for the set-enthusiasts out there: Yes, set-items are a thing in LE but you will RARELY if ever find a single set item in any late-game builds. There might be a niche exception out there since single set items already offer a transformative effect in some way but you usually have a way better option out there regardless. The reason why set-items don't hold up is that they can't be altered in any way, so they will always lose out to crafted uniques and Exalted items in terms of stats. So, consider set-items more of a early/mid-game gear that helps you leveling your character or get through the campaign smoothly.

[@diaryveteran5788]

Blizzard fail with diablo 3 and now fail with diablo 4 LOL 😂

[@GhostAeonWolf]

D3 is still better and more fun than D4. D4 just has shitload of annoying things and devs telling us that annoying monsters and traps are fun.

[@Snootch]

They hate it because it has more content than the D4 Beta that was released at a $70+ price point.

[@soupdragonuk]

Having played D4 from early release it seemed okay. But our clan is getting bored with it. Our Clan Master said about Last Epoch and having seem several videos of it we are switching to LE. I think LE and PoE2 will kill D4 stone dead. Even an expansion won't save D4, not when PoE and LE will both be adding as well.

[@lyrand6408]

I mean... you gotta got a change to the D4 devs, from what I heard they're a small Indie-style studio with like 5 or 6 guys.

[@elien8260]

how can quin tell the monolith system is not engaging? he didnt even play endgame yet. he havent done 1 single lvl 100 monolith boss. Classic 0/11 take

[@timovandee8651]

The funny thing is, that all these D4 issues were already mentioned after the D4 end game beta, including by me. And still everyone was shouting "its a beta dumbass"... uhu :)

[@insertnamehere4419]

The first minute...is Quin trolling? I honestly can't tell. I mean I don't watch the guy so I don't know. is this guy for real? or is he this stupid...

[@Roland597]

They either did not have the tech to actually create large stashes, which is bonkers because that shouldn't be that hard. Every well liked ARPG has them. "OR" they wanted to keep the option of monetizing them. That will be a real canary in the coal mine for them. If they monetize them in any way, like putting them behind paid DLC, we know this game will forever be the worst of the major arpgs.

[@andyfibb]

there is end game bosses to work towarads just like poe lmao from mapping... quinns so 2head its crazy af

[@VerySaneDr]

Lol. PoE fans want every ARPG to become PoE.

[@Brillanty]

I was starting to feel bad for diablo 4 dev's, started to even think maybe it got better, I download it again, logged in, opened skill tree, played 5 min, opened skill tree a last time and I was like nah i'm out.

[@CasualDudeGaming]

Idky but i like his "yeah yeah yeah" lol

[@dusttodust915]

Look I pretty much grew up on Diablo1-2 and a bit of 3, and loved playing them when ever the hell I could. but I'm not delusional to think that D4's the best game in any degree. Pretty much any dev team that makes games like this can make a better game than blizzard now.

[@jprice_]

5:08 QA played once with god modded items, not even picking up any loot.

[@grumdiddlydoo3559]

With out watching the video, I'd question what defines a [Diablo 4 player]? someone who has never played Diablo 1-3 and only played 4? Someone who has only played 1 dungeon looter RPG being D4? Because thats the only niche group that I could imagine that would 'hate' a similar game. now if they just aren't big on the hype that others are pressing upon them, thats fair. All too often players want others to hate or love something they do. So if you approach someone hyping up a movie or game that you enjoyed...it sets expectations higher. If you played Last Epoch with no hype or expectations, and you enjoyed other Dungeon looter RPG games, you'll enjoy it too. Its not some ground breaking game in the genre. It has some bold features vs others, but its gameplay is, well, what you'd expect. I think it takes from alot of the dated elements that its peers take too. We need a more refreshing take on dungeon looters then the classical [campaign] into simplistic repetition of running the same layout over and over again. Path of Exiles is the best in this group, but they've had a Decade to get there. They also have a bad new player experience being the starting zone and campaign is still mandatory to reach the core fun the game offers in its end game.

[@Kallipolis7]

This is the Luke Skywalker of sarcasm

[@mehdi6657]

The worst part about all this is that the devs for Diablo 4 will tweet that we, the customers, are the problem and that their game is amazing as it is.

[@shadowl1980]

Everyone is playing this video. Where is the originality.

[@joesieren8403]

"how did they mess the skill tree up so bad" as someone who played wow as a child, from the vanilla days to mist of pandaria, watching the skill tree go from diverse options to extremely linear, im surprised diablo 4 and 3 even had skill tree pages

[@Herrkaminkx]

Nahhhh he did not bring up flyff.... Flyff is pure P2W "crafting" getting random stats or using P2W items to reroll only certain stats, upgrading is ONLY POSSIBLE IF YOU INTERACT WITH THE CASH SHOP Never ever return and play flyff again if you have nostalgia for it. Keep those pure memories intact.

[@Coogi999]

He did mention that