Quit using belts and embrace bots! | Ultimate Factorio Tutorial tips and tricks guide

[@Trupen]

What else should I cover in the Ultimate Tutorial series?

[@igroomem9843]

Do Krastorio ☠️(joke)

[@ifyoudomindustry0-0-rt3cs]

can you please cover how to beat factorio late game pls i cannot understand your older vids

[@inoperative]

How to use circuits to make our life easier.

[@Pizza-Rabbit77]

It would be cool to see some building trick guides. Like efficient designs on different science packs and how to easily set up a mall. Love your videos, keep up the good work 👍

[@karemmosa546]

calculating and bottlenecks

[@Jackpkmn]

Biggest use for buffer chests is that if you include buffer chests in your designs with materials used to build that blueprint then logistics bots can help bring materials closer to the build site. Normally logistics bots couldn't get involved in construction but this enables them to.

[@frosty7269]

I use them instead of provider chests everywhere I can. I set request of full chest of items, but set limit for manipulators by logic to not fill chest above a half. Doing so I still can use them as provider chests, but whenever I come back to base and have exceeding items in my inventory bots will drop these items exactly to dedicated chests. This approach have two major advantages: mall doesn't overproduce items and I don't need big area of storage chests to store all of said exceeding items. The disadvantage is that it is time consuming to set all requests and limits, but having blueprints for whatever you need solves this problem.

[@BlackTempleGaurdian]

@@frosty7269 On the birght side with 2.0 you'll be able to have the buffer and assembler both set by a logic network, so you can just stamp down a blueprint and change the constant combinator to set assembler, inserter, and buffer chest all at once.

[@calyodelphi124]

Oh this sounds useful. I'm gonna have to try to remember that.

[@rrai1999]

I use them to keep Artillery and Gun turrets loaded en masse with just a few nearby chests

[@Sir_Lancelotz]

I'm a non-native speaker and I can say you have been improving a lot, I must say I can watch your videos without subtitles and understand everything.

[@jeremylakeman]

Is his language improving? Or your ability to understand him?

[@Sir_Lancelotz]

@@jeremylakeman His pronunciation, maybe my sentence was confusing

[@OctyabrAprelya]

Never had problem understanding him tbh, in fact, for me it's easier to understand people with thick foreign accents than people who speak English as their first language.

[@Sir_Lancelotz]

@@OctyabrAprelya I struggled to understand (not to much) his oldest videos sometimes, so the subtitles at that time were really helpful.

[@jupitersky]

Yeah he's gotten a ton better! Super cool to watch someone improve like this.

[@jmatya]

Some advanced insights: - When connecting inserters to logistic networks, make sure they are in logistic networks, otherwise you'll wtf for some serious time. They don't give that flashing warning like the chests. - only logistic bots can supply you or remove items from the trash slots, BUT construction bots can pick up items from your personal trash slots if that satisfies a building request.

[@Trupen]

While recording this video I had exactly that problem with inserters outside of logistic network and I was starting to consider it as a bug, until I realized what's wrong...

[@Omonchik_h69]

How did you put your comment 1 MONTH ago??

[@leifpeterson4850]

@@Omonchik_h69wait hold on… you’re right this video just came out 😂😂

[@TRAINE]

​@@Omonchik_h69yeah ,how ?😂😅

[@Soken50]

@@Omonchik_h69 Patreon exclusive videos have been a thing on nearly every channel for a decade at this point and KZbin has been pushing its own membership exclusive videos for a few years, it's obviously a private paywalled video that was just made public.

[@Xudmud]

One other important thing is order of heirarchy with the logistic chests. Bots will first take from active provider chests, then storage or buffer chests, then passive provider chests. You can also set a requester chest to be able to request from buffer chests to fulfill logistic reauests.

[@BobTheBrogrammer]

I unlocked bots for the first time a day before this came out. Fantastic timing lol.

[@XplosivDS]

Great overview! Also btw I saw a couple of your old videos a few days ago and I noticed the improvement in English made in these years, right now apart from a few words you sound pretty good, keep it up!

[@Trupen]

Great to hear!

[@esdanol]

One of my favorite hidden gems is that copy paste has a history and works like a blueprint book. So you can scroll back through things you've copied. It's really handy for switching between components without ever needing to specifically use a blueprint.

[@therealstubot]

I never knew the command to scroll through the clipboard history, but occasionally, I'd accidentally engage it, and wonder WTF I did to cause it, cause it's so cool.

[@bonelesschickennuggets1868]

Also an important note to consider it’s the priority in which bots take items. *Regardless* of distance bots will always take items in this order. Active>Buffer>Storage>Passive It doesn’t matter if the passive chest is right next to the ghost building and the buffer is at the other side of the map, robots will always attempt to take from buffers and storages first before needing to take from passive chests.

[@georgesedov7973]

"I'm still using the old version of factorio", said Trupen two months before the release :) I see you're playing the long game. In every meaning of this word.

[@ericlizama8552]

I will never get tired of Trupen hiding his tastes in plain site.

[@TheyCalledMeT]

where? :)

[@disendromeder4347]

​​@@TheyCalledMeT octopus up top around 9:55

[@brekreney5734]

what?

[@leow179]

Please don't use bots to unload trains 😅😅

[@TRAINE]

Hell nah

[@luigisgl2639]

Why?

[@viniboi_4963]

sure you can

[@Soken50]

@@viniboi_4963 Yes, you can, that doesn't mean you should.

[@viniboi_4963]

@@Soken50 sure you could

[@Br3ttM]

I have a blueprint book just for deconstruction planners, because there's a few good ones. Rocks and trees only, for clearing ground. Items on ground, for a few dropped items or if you unequipped power armor with a full inventory. Building ghosts only, to remove blueprints without deconstructing other things. Everything _except_ power poles, storage, and roboports for deconstructing that doesn't mess with it's own infrastructure. You can set it to whitelist or blacklist, depending on what you need.

[@123dan321]

Thanks for this, hadn’t thought about these ideas and they all sound really useful!

[@music00soba]

how do you set those up? im still figuring out blueprints and am working on a megabase this sounds really convenient

[@Br3ttM]

@@music00soba Stick a deconstruction planner in your inventory and you can edit what it deconstructs (I think right click). Make a few, then make a blueprint book and stick them in it. Use names and icons to tell them apart. Put the blueprint book in your blueprint library so it doesn't take up inventory or get lost, and works between saves. You can put it on your hotbar from the library without needing it in your inventory. You can scroll while holding the book to switch between the planners in it.

[@garriustius12]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, finally. The long-awaited tutorial! Thanks Trupen!

[@jacobthehollow]

Good timing on this, I've been playing for the first time in probably 4 years and just unlocked these for the first time ever like yesterday

[@jmatya]

Regarding those weird numbers when pasting recepies into requestor chests: they are "configured to request enough ingredients for 30 seconds of continuous crafting". This means otoh if you speed module them up, re-paste the requestor chests, they'll need to request more items, otherwise your assembler will run dry when continuously crafting.

[@draguchan9799]

active provider chests are also useful for sending back empty barrels

[@TRAINE]

That makes sense, just HOW!?

[@Puschit1]

@@TRAINE Insert the empty barrel into a purple chest. Place a yellow chest somewhere central (your mall) and set the filter to empty barrel. Place blue chests next to assemblers that need empty barrels and give them a request for empty barrels. This assures that all empty barrels will be stored away in the yellow chests and then moved to the blue ones when needed.

[@TRAINE]

@@Puschit1 I don't need you to explain but

[@TRAINE]

how do you explore this hidden technology

[@Puschit1]

@@TRAINE Hidden technology!? As the video says you'll need second research ("Logistic System") for purple and blue chests. Or what do you mean?

[@Warlance001]

Best way to think of Buffer chests is a lower priority requester chest, if you want your logistics mall output to also act as storage, use buffer chests, it's also good to place buffer chests with commonly used construction equipment near any unused portion of your base, where you'll construct future projects and near the borders of your base for faster construction. Basically anywhere you want items to be quickly available that is a distance from your warehouses, buffer chests will allow logistic bots to help with the workload of large construction projects. They're also useful to use as a requester chest for low priority assemblers where you don't mind if it's production gets halted occasionally by bots taking it's ingredients, Or for supplying ammo to turrets that you also want supplied to yourself when you're nearby, and also as an in between between your warehouse and production assemblers. I think they're the least used because people don't realize the use cases, but they're actually a pretty powerful chest when it comes to optimizing your logistics network and construction projects, don't sleep on buffer chests

[@Irohbro]

this feels like a video for people who already know what to do.

[@Saki_PL]

Good Job Trupen, remember Rock and Factory must grow, Potrzebujemy cię

[@devo6109]

Jak dobrze że nagrywasz mam co oglądać w pracy + może w końcu przestanę robić spaghetti 😂😂

[@FightWhen]

This took me 125 hours in a krastorio save to figure out on my own. Thank you for cutting the time down to 15 minutes

[@BrownBear_OG]

Just bought the game yesterday, your videos have been a godsend explaining concepts about the game. Still cant get away from the spagehtti, but im already better than when i was playing the demo tutorial a week ago. Keen for you to drop the science video

[@Bugman563]

Trupens videos are always fun to watch, but if he actually explains something I dont know and sounds useful I have to watch the explanation 3-4 times to really get it.. and then I even need to do it in the game once or twice to fully be able to understand what I just learned xD

[@fourclout4]

I literally just got and created bots for the first time and googled yesterday for this exact type of vid. bro doing that overtime

[@ultimateplayzz1587]

i love how you allways sound so happy :D

[@LimitlessBobby]

Trupen, I keep following you for years and I gotta say your videos helped me get much better at the game. As an adult casual gamer your videos allow me enjoy the game without getting the need of going too deep into figuring out ratios on my own. I just came back to factorio after over a year of not playing it and seems like I forgot quite a lot. This video is exactly what I needed. Keep them coming! Also I'm looking forward to your upcoming tutorials when Factiorio 2.0 comes out in October :). I'm not sure what the rest of your audience thinks, but for me such shorter videos are much more digestable than long 30-60min videos. I like this format much more. Quick question - considering the not so intuitive liquid mechanic, do you think using barrels for transporting crude oil through long distances could be viable/more efficient? I have an issue where i have quite a few oil fields and I simply can't get enough of it to sustain my plastic production. Dzieki za kontent staruszku ;)

[@LimitlessBobby]

Regarding barrels - nevermind. I just saw you butchered them in your Oil processing video :D

[@Tofufiche]

You can copy recipe requirements to requester chests?!! Factorio will never ceise to amaze me.

[@kylefuller430]

It's like cntrl right the building control left requester. It's the same for copying a recipe to multiple buildings

[@funpolice8601]

Something worth mentioning is that you can put a blueprint somewhere else on the map and your bots will do it. Basically you can build your base while kilometers away

[@nyp6545]

PLEAAAASE POST MORE VÍDEOS 😭😭😭 i played factorio two years ago but 2 weeks ago i decide *PLAY* factorio . thx for vídeos brasilians like you alot 🙌

[@Trupen]

There is a big chance I will post more ;)

[@monad_tcp]

Buffer chests are good to keep construction components for fix walls, for example, the construction bots can take from it, and the logistic bots will keep it filled.

[@Omega_MindMaster]

Awsome video for beginners. I wish it was when I was learning this game

[@coenisgreat]

No. I like belts more, and for entirely personal petty reasons, bots always felt a little cheaty to me... probably because I liked the amount of thought you'd need to put in to fix an issue with belts.

[@martiantony777]

The only thing I refuse to use are subtitles to english! :D Really fun video, also learned a lot!

[@ceilnguy4700]

I really appreciate your videos buddy..you do a good job of explaining

[@timmyingelbrecht6977]

Thank you for reminding me this game exists.

[@duncanthelaughingdragon]

Bots are love. Bots are life. Did a 1,000 science per minute factory with a bud and the network was over 70,000 log bots and 40,000 con bots lol

[@Caricanalisis]

For diction you can recreate an audiobook, listen to it, record a reading, listen to your reading, compare, go to the next paragraph.

[@Xio189]

You can use yellow boxes as a receiver by putting filter on it, making filter of your recipe in craft menu, summon those specific recipes, have a “exit” yellow chest with each corresponding filter. It’s automated but more manually if yo I don’t have the blue chest yet

[@Snoogen11]

That's an interesting point, with space age, weapons will have rarities, so we need a "pistol only" playthrough.

[@kdawg2468]

I love the green chests!

[@TRAINE]

Green colour go brrrrrrrrr

[@bonelesschickennuggets1868]

The buffer chest is to the construction bots what the requester chest is for logistic bots, they can speed up construction by basically de-centralizing your mall, making the construction bots do their work quicker while making logistic bots active part of building as well.

[@SnkobArts]

I just unlocked logistic networks in my first playthrough so this is extremely helpful

[@Trupen]

glad I could help

[@brakthalas]

I trust you so much that when I saw on screen the roboport green area was 110x100 I just assumed I had been wrong for years. Then you said 110x110 and my worldview was returned to me.

[@abdullagayratullaev7917]

oh hi trupen, thanks for great tutorial

[@Trupen]

No problem 👍

[@VADemon]

@@Trupen why are these 5 comments a month old? 🤨

[@russellchamp]

I thought i knew everything but i learned something new, too

[@ikjman1]

The buffer chest works well to spread out replacement items across a wall in case anything breaks

[@rogo7330]

You also forgot to mention that contruction bots are the only way to fully automate base defences, because you can supply them with repair packs, spare walls, flamethrowers, pipes and whatever you build your walls out of, and they will repair damage and fix holes for you.

[@galacticfederationofficer]

bro speaks english like an italian but is polish. xD love your videos as a "faktorio" player I approve all the stuff I learned here.

[@DavidLindes]

12:42 - oh, holy crap, I think that was in an FFF at some point, but I'd completely forgotten about it! Will have to try that! _So many_ cool new QOL things in 2.0 -- to the point where I haven't even gotten Space Age yet (though I fully intend to), because I'm having too much fun playing with 2.0 stuff. :) (AND: I want to get all the base-2.0 achievements before I unlock space age, as just a personal goal.)

[@erickonrad9962]

Brilliant video, thank u so much. Just reached bots in my second playtrough an don't I want to redo all the mistakes😅

[@Grzechu2142]

Nice tutorial. Może w końcu zacznę korzystać z dronków ;)

[@Techischannel]

Thats great and all but logistics bots are essentially a voluntary Memory leak.

[@jupitersky]

I love how you future proofed it by just acting like 2.0 is already out lol

[@Maadhawk]

Best use I have found for buffer chests has been with my concrete and landfill production plant. At the entrance to the plant, I have requester chests asking for raw stone. This is so when my bots are clearing rocks, or I am tearing down an on old build that used raw stone for something, the bots will carry the stone to be fed into my concrete/landfill production line. In addition to this, the landfill itself is fed by requester chests as well. This means some of my raw stone needs to be fed into a logistics chest of some kind. I don't want the input chests to the concrete plant drawing raw stone from these chests. So in this case, I use buffer chests and then over at the landfill requestor chests, I check the box for "Request from Buffer Chests". In this way, I avoid my bots flying raw stone from the stone supply to landfill back to the start of the raw stone conveyor belts.

[@MikeMinneapolis-kk2xr]

wat

[@Jalae]

requester chests are now post interplanetary tech which is only slightly more reasonable than cliff explosives being interplanetary. But without requester chests using bots for production is a nonstarter.

[@rigbyb]

Just what I was looking for 😅

[@kontroler123]

Grandpa Grandpa! what happend grandson? trupen posted new wideo! Finaly after 79 years

[@Logically_Fallacious]

I was following your tutorial series which so far is great, but this error @2:23 where you state a 110 x 100 (instead of 110 or 100 x 100, Idr now!) made me think you'll need more than 3.125 engineers to speed run Factorio 2.0 "Lost in Space." If possible, I'd like a tutorial on the best practices to how place inserters, and power poles (from the smallest to the bigger ones) before you get bots... (this is not /sk or a /jk... seriously)

[@Gizmosauce]

can you please do a train tutorial? your vids are so helpful and trains are so cunfusing

[@RoccaaaHD]

Half of my factory runs on requester>crafting>passive provider>buffer(main storage). I dont care about UPS with my low latency ram and 24 core cpu. Just broke 10k legendary bots. If you care about UPS then just download a mod that increases speed, capacity and range of bots.

[@PrunzevsMaster]

you are back!

[@KingKaden2]

this was very helpful

[@Trupen]

Glad i could help

[@richardmackendrick4342]

Honestly, in a big base or a defensive wall logistic network, Buffer chest might be OP.

[@VADemon]

good tutorial, we need a chatgpt mod so bots can drop diss rap lines while buzzing by

[@TRAINE]

Can you make a video about trains and 4 railway stations system, i think it gonna be perfect bc no one talks about it

[@Trupen]

I will. Ale a video about trains when Factorio 2 comes out

[@jmatya]

Nice! Rock! ❤

[@Phootaba]

Lol, I thought it was a standard 1 min 50s video. Realized it was a full tutorial, and I'm equally aghast and curious xD

[@lefantom5555]

Is it me or there is no "science pack tutorial" video like mentioned at 10:20 ???

[@Trupen]

science tutorial is work in progress

[@lefantom5555]

@@Trupen aaaah You are anticipating ! Very smart man here

[@geeves21312]

Needed this comment!! Spent a full hour looking through other possible ones in case it was called something different 😂😂

[@zocking1323]

buffer chests are op when it comes to your defense line and putting walls and turrets in there basicly everything you have in your def line

[@epifloyd7357]

I'd love to see someone do a completely belt-free run.

[@wasilis5310]

I like you'r videos and i have some question .....can you make some tutorial how to make belts and splitters from mixed ore ?

[@BlackTempleGaurdian]

Fun fact: Ctrl + Shift + C also creates blueprints.

[@Trupen]

I'm too lazy to check, but I trust you with this one

[@BlackTempleGaurdian]

@@Trupen Honestly? I discovered it because I kept accidentally creating blueprints when trying to copy things.

[@jakereplogle4121]

I wish I could understand this guy

[@ngawur-nc4ks]

can you continue the first hour in factorio video? i wanna see what you would do to continue after that part

[@Trupen]

I will make a video start -> rocket when factorio expansion come out

[@Wolan-_-1]

Do you have videos for beginners as a guide like playthroughs?

[@pylonialwaffles6944]

I just barely got bots fully going in the Space Exploration. I miss my requester chests. I still have my sanity. For now. We'll see once I start working on space science.

[@CJtryout89]

I can't seem to find the science pack video that you refer to in this video on your channel? Was it removed? Very interested in how you optimize science production

[@Jalae]

if you are on space age then Logistic system (requester/buffer/active provider chests) is now stuck behind space science, which is kinda annoying.

[@zwatotem]

Little did we know he actually did order legendary pistols the entire time.

[@-na-nomad6247]

The problem with bots is the everything to do with petrolium. but it makes sense, you gotta pay with your last working neurons if you want to convenience of bots. Heck!

[@dalastjedi1768]

Do the construction bots have to be in the spidertron inventory to build or will it work with empty roboports?

[@matthewtalbot-paine7977]

I started doing purely logistic bots for moving stuff and I made them be created when I have less than 100 logistics bots available and nopw I have nearly 10k logisitcs bots and I've had to setup 10 nuclear reactors to power the roboports which I have 250 of my power capacity is 1.2GW at night which seems to be at about 80% of capacity during the night. If I go into my base I can't really see what is going on because there are bots everywhere but I don't think I've moved my character in like 20 minutes because I've just been placing and managing stuff using the map.

[@truthwatcher2096]

Me on my first base (which I never completed): trains sound too complicated, let's transport things just with belts and robots. Me on my second base (where I finally launched one rocket): I don't need robots, I only need more belts!

[@loganosupreme2323]

New to factorio. Will robots make me spaghetti?

[@Trupen]

If you order them to do so

[@loganosupreme2323]

@@Trupen :D

[@djzanderoni6095]

Hey, awesome video! Sorry if I'm being or sound like I'm being nitpicky or rude, but when you talk about using ctrl + Y to redo, you pronounce Y the same as the letter E. The letter Y is pronounced like the word "why", not like how it sounds in words like "happily".

[@Game_Blox9999]

6:53 Sisyphus bot.

[@nnelg8139]

And soon we will have green belts and true stack inserters to provide a true rival to bots!

[@GuyApollo]

I have tried so many times to make buffer chests useful.

[@PeterZaitcev]

Important note: Ctrl+Y will only work in 2.0 and later

[@Trupen]

Yes it will work in 2.5 months

[@Zeretul90]

At 8:55, he says he was using the old factorio. What did he mean by this?

[@elliejohnson2786]

You can view your entire logistic network (and other existing ones) by hovering over a roboport and pressing "L".

[@RekinBalboa]

Will the worms settle in the place where I previously placed concrete?

[@artem_cnc]

Спасибо друг

[@historykzg6747]

The best Factorio KZbinr finally did his job!

[@morpheus_uat]

i only use bots for construction, and the item bots for easy mall, just plug a few requester chest and an assembler and we are ready to go the proper factory is fueled by the main bus is there any guide or some video that points me to a fully bot factory? wouldnt the bots hurt the ups when you have a medium base? like 10k spm

[@gandalfwiz20007]

Trupen, ever though of writing a scientific paper on Factorio logistic algorithms?

[@Trupen]

I was considering doing one for blueprint, but at the end wrote one about video compression

[@gandalfwiz20007]

@Trupen nice! I was looking in Google Scholar and there a few papers on Factorio 😅

[@leerman22]

I always use buffer chests in my wall blueprints so when I want to expand the WALL the bots don't take all damn day.

[@chuan7878]

new 2.0 buffer chest enhanced 1 great features make it great again ( useful)

[@Frazer213]

can i still do this if i only have the yellow and red chests unlocked?

[@edlerbriones9538]

Hello, master, I´m trying to use circuits to control lights, but how do I get the value of the time of night and day as condition for that purpose, I´ve tried a lot of stuff but now I humbly request guide from the gods here, what I want to do its to light all the lamps when the night comes at the same time using interruptor and also if possible to put color on them , thanks in advance for any advise you may give this noob.

[@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei]

Pretty sure lights automatically activate during night and deactive during day unless you uncheck the box?