Quitting kratom experience. 3

[@derekrogers1984]

It hard asf man. I’m nearing the end of day 4 and feel a little better. Work as an Electrician and today was hell! I couldn’t think, couldn’t stop sweating, and couldn’t stop having extreme anxiety. Feeling better now but damn!

[@RawTheory87]

By day 10 you'll be 90% back to normal. 2 weeks, youll be in the clear. Youre gonna be out of this soon man. Not relapsing is the hard part

[@BryanMcNamara-f3w]

I'm also an electrician and want to quit. I just quit Adderall so kratom is next. But I worry with work it's gonna be rough lol hope all is well!

[@parallelsmoke7800]

I'm a carpenter and working outside...the coldsweats in this cold windy weather is the fuckin worssttt. I keep breaking my taper in the weeke ds to have fun. I really want to see this through. I hate depending on it to feel normal/enthused. I have too many things in my life to be excited about to not be excited about them because of Kratom withdrawal. Haha

[@BryanMcNamara-f3w]

@@parallelsmoke7800 I hear that ! Yea it's rough especially if co-workers don't know you're going through it I don't know why that makes it worse for me! Lol but yea I feel so unmotivated without it as well it blows but it will get better ! I do the same fold on my taper on weekends lol

[@YHWH711]

Keep going man

[@nicholasroyea7903]

I just started getting off a couple days ago from everyday use. Roughly 25 to 35 gpd for about 6 months. I am glad i found these videos before this addiction really spiraled out of control. Keep making videos, you are helping more poeple than u know. Nobody wants to go thru this alone. Stay strong brother you got this!!

[@SuperThesavage]

sadly im on a way higher amount, 19-21 grams 3 times a day sometimes 4, obviously the mental addiction and physical is rough but also the routine is embedded in our brain, idk if its for you which I imagine it is with anyone that has formed a bad habit you look forward to your next dose all day

[@brasstacksboxing409]

​@@SuperThesavagewow, those are big doses. But, I take 8 grams 3 to 4 times a day. And, been doing that for a few years. Like 4 to be exact. So, I start a taper tomorrow. I am going into town today to grab a journal to document my numbers, that way I have something holding me accountable. I also am going to grab a few vitamins and supplements to help me. How are you doing? How has it been going? Wish you the best. I think with me, I never really look forward to my next dose, but I never really wanted to come off of it, as I used it to come off heavy opiates, and viewed it as a godsend. That is how we get tricked..take care, bro. Always here for support.

[@Faith.in.His.Grace.]

I went cold turkey off of Kratom a day ago from years of heavy use. So far I feel fine. I have been taking 800mg of Gabapentin about every 6hrs. It may be helping, but I'm not sure. I've been taking Gabapentin for years and have built up a high tolerance to it, so I really don't know. All I tell you is that I'm not really suffering from withdrawals or anything.

[@aaronhobart7826]

im on day 12 and i have been taking 800mg of gabapentin a day and i have never taken it before and it does help a bit for me anyways

[@LoudenSwain]

That’s not cold Turkey then buddy. GABApentin drastically reduces withdrawal symptoms

[@WhySoSerious551]

It helps more than a bit. If you run out of gabapentin you'll redose kratom.

[@promigmaniacoc3053]

I’m on day 8 with no kratom. I was taking 90 gold balis a day for a month and didn’t sleep for the first 4 days without them. So fucking glad I’m over that!! Grateful I realize I don’t have to put myself through that again today! Much appreciation for your experience brother keep it up it gets better.

[@ryankittle3431]

Worst withdrawal symptom for me would be feeling freezing, and then the random sweats. I've always been fidgety, so restlessness isn't too big of an issue for me.

[@RandomHuTaoSimp]

Same for me. I hate the body temperature irregulations and then the uncomfortable, stressful prefusing/sweating

[@ryankittle3431]

@@RandomHuTaoSimp I quit again, last Tuesday. I think I found a hack for the cold sweats and hot flashes. Standard Process Hypothalmex. It's a porcine hypothalamus extract. The hypothalamus is what regulates body temperature. I have not had the sweats at all this quit, and I attribute it to that supplement. I have felt a little cooler than normal, but not the super uncomfortable chills that are typical with kratom withdrawal.

[@RiBlizz]

Hey Bro, proud of you man. I’m currently trying to quit…again. I’m at 24 hours. The tiredness, low mood, lack of motivation is rough. Hopefully it doesn’t happen this time but once I hit the night 2 the restless legs and no sleep comes in. Usually sticks around for a few days after that. I personally decided to quick because Kratom lost its magic. It got to the point just like OXY its efficacy waned. I was not getting the euphoria anymore and was taking it to feel normal. Yeah addict stuff. I’m my heights I got up to about 50gpd per day. I’ve been at around 28 gpd. Thats what I’m coming off of. I feel like day 1-2 isn’t that bad, once day 3 hits it ramps up. The literal no sleep, can’t stay still and so DIFFICULT to eat anything let alone exercise and do the things we know we should. The motivation it saps and the ambition is nuts. Hope you are doing well. God bless.

[@BowHunter87]

Protip: go cold turkey when you have a fever, flu, Covid, etc. It’s way easier to get through the first week because you already feel like shit and taking it has no effect when you’re sick anyway.

[@skrux9707]

super detailed account man, you're probably the first person I've ran across that considered the RLS as a full body restleness, I get it in my arms badly during this withdrawal, and they're just super tensed and restless and I have to stretch them out or distract myself..

[@SpencerDrummer]

Dude, this is spot on my story more than anyone else’s I’ve seen thus far. Every two hours I dose cause I start feeling weird. I swear for a while I thought what a shitty unique experience I was having withdrawing from Kratom, and it turns out it’s very common down to the exact symptoms. I’m one week in to my taper and everything you said has happened exactly. First 3 nights it was restless leg city. Now I’m leveled off a little and just shaving like a gram a day and spacing it all out. Something that’s been working for me is 1.5 grams at let’s say 5 am…then .5 at 6:30…then I push back the next 1.5 an hour after the .5 dose haha. It’s been the best transition I’ve discovered so far. Now I’m pushing back the 1.5 dose to an hour and half after every small .5 dose. I also have a dose next to me in the middle of the night and without fail I fucken wake up feeling like doom and gloom. Shit has turned out to be so whack I’m so upset I ever started, but in all of our defenses, how the fuck were we to know this is where we would end up! Hope you are doing well and made it out! Appreciate the video

[@TK-sz6nj]

Sounds like you've got a good protocol that's working for you :). And yeah it seemed too good to be true 10 years ago, turns out it was lol.

[@edie4321]

I don't feel weird like withdrawal in that time, but I need the dopamine or whatever it, and cigarettes give. Kratom even helped me to quit a 48 year nicotine addiction, but that's when it all started working against me. But TBH, life and loss have done a number on me too.

[@OoSwIItchyOo]

You got this brother. Sneaky little devil plant ain't no joke.

[@BirdieBlrrrd]

The plant isn’t the devil. The reason we start taking it excessively is.

[@RandomHuTaoSimp]

Im also quitting. The key is tapering incrimentally over time. Good luck. Also the best way to weane is to make your body at least withdraw a little bit. Remember your body at all times is trying to achieve homeostasis, so it will try accomidate for that slight withdraw you strategically put yourself in.

[@TK-sz6nj]

100% agree. Pushing through 2 hours of withdrawals can feel like forever but they are short in the grand scheme of things and have a major impact on lowering tolerance and weening down. 👍

[@dontbefooled132]

The key is cold turkey tapering just prolongs pain Iv done both and cold turkey was waaaay easier and faster...5 months no kratom

[@kylejohns8139]

I tapered from 25-30 gpd for 3 years. Tapered over 6 months and stopped with zero withdrawals. The taper withdrawals were totally manageable. It was almost completely painless.

[@Uglypugger]

I get the grind of using . I get up go to work , come home play on the computer , go to bed and repeat. This isn't exactly the way I envisioned my life back when I had ambition . No friends and no sex life and it seems the kratom is a double edged sword. It makes me feel like it's not so bad where I'm at but it also makes it where I will never leave this situation if I continue taking it. I guess knowing we have to quit is a small sort of victory. God bless you and just know you're not alone in your struggles.

[@TheMookie1590]

same, i had potential. Classic gifted kid, building binary arithmetic units at 10. Im 30 and wasting away. I work, but just a blur. im lucky if i clean my room/ dopamine is your habit forming machine. It stick's hard after so many times. wont go into the neuroscience. But fear plays a roll in habits.. It needs serotonin and beain growth factors to rewire habit s a roll in habits.. It needs serotonin and beain growth factors to rewire habits. either gut brain axes. bacter make em. or psycodelics. All these induce rapid neurogenisis.Its literally why you trip. Just new brain cells remapping. youre along for the ride. there is ketamine theray. im gonna do ibogain. Ita the ghost of christmas past in drug form. releases neurogenesis than everything else. Only drug with antidrug properties it won't be fun, but needed

[@horse-4598]

Holy sh** are you me?

[@mazlikesbass]

@@TheMookie1590 it's so funny how correct you are but sound drunk af at the same time lmao

[@matttarlton5322]

Im going to quit kratom cold turkey. The lord is my strength.....

[@horse-4598]

How’d it go?

[@BirdieBlrrrd]

It’s pretty much all mental other than some sweating and rls at night. How ya doin now?

[@YHWH711]

I’d would taper down if you’ve been taking alot

[@YHWH711]

@@BirdieBlrrrdwhat a crock

[@BirdieBlrrrd]

@@YHWH711 I’m not hating. I said pretty much. Those are the main things that last a while. Know what I mean? I quit 30gpd so I get that it can involve more but after the first couple days it’s depression and insomnia/restlesness for me. What sorta stuff do you experience behind the first 4 hell days? Nausea, insomnia, restless leg syndrome, adohenia or whatever it’s called, and diarrhea are what I experience when I quit large amounts cold turkey, for those reading. All that exists but for a short time. The insomnia can be like a month, the legs a week or so but usually a few bad days. Every time, for me, it’s 3 or 4 bad days.

[@educationcentral_]

How’s this for negative side effects, severe chest and back pain every time you take caffeine while you’re taking kratom that won’t go away for months , but you are so hopelessly addicted that you take more and more and the pain is ominous and gets worse and you refuse to go to the doctor because you are afraid of the truth I’m talking internal organ pain .

[@saritalil9116]

I am in the same boat but haven’t started my actually quitting again… I want so bad to be free for good I hate withdrawl though

[@redlineeliminator7146]

Losers quit....winners suffer. #don't stop believing

[@barronscott3637]

Same

[@Kmesh-v8l]

2 Corinthians 12:9 - God tells you that his strength is all you need, because His power is greatest when you are weak. When you are facing an addiction that makes you feel feeble and defeated, remember that God is your strength and there to carry you through those moments.

[@ADI807]

Irrelevant

[@brasstacksboxing409]

Maybe 2 Y O U ​@@ADI807

[@Jameskenomis3]

I needed to read this more than you know. Thank you.

[@christysmith5211]

Thank you for the reminder

[@paulrash8861]

​@@ADI807are you homosexual?

[@skyhackerfpv7104]

Hearing all of this really helps me to keep myself in check. I'm using 1 to 2gpd @ 3 to 4 days a week. Hearing your experience keeps me honest with my usage. I'm using capsules, where do you get the coarse leaf for tea? Thanks again for sharing.

[@TK-sz6nj]

Some vendors have crushed leaf, some don't. Mine did thankfully. I'm in Canada. Thanks for commenting :)

[@prohsodie]

I’m constantly debating within myself whether I like kratom overall or not. I’m not sure I like normal life enough to want to have no kratom buffer. But when I want to decrease my dose, I usually put aside a few days and basically do the same thing. I get through maybe 12 hours or so of withdrawal, then I take the smallest dose possible to be able to sleep. Then wake up in withdrawal and do that again, maybe take a small dose the next night, and repeat this a few times. You can decrease your dose pretty quickly this way, and a relatively small dosage goes really far after allowing the withdrawal and pushing through it. And yeah you can basically do this until you’re off of it completely, if that is your goal. Easier said than done, but some variation of this method is better than a week of straight shit and sleepless nights.

[@retroo445]

just quit kratom completely, I quit kratom cold turkey and it only took two weeks to feel normal

[@WhySoSerious551]

The body temperature fluctuations are the most draining tiresome part of it. The restless legs can be taken care off with gabapenting, but the sweaty, shivery part, no.

[@YHWH711]

Prayer is very important folks

[@josuetrujo]

I'm on day 3 from quitting cold turkey. I've been consuming it every day for 4 years. I never consumed more than 5g per day of powder. No signs of withdrawal yet. What should I expect?

[@TK-sz6nj]

Good job on 3 days. Everyone is different. 5g is pretty low dose. 4 years everyday is a long time. Also depends on your age, past/ current other drug usage, diet/exercise/lifestyle factors, etc. If you're not feeling any WD after 3 days it probably won't get much worse if at all. But who knows, keep us updated:)

[@Fishybusiness2024]

Yeah im curious too .. iv been using about the same amount , 5-8g once a day for like a year now. Been of it for 36 hours. No WD but still waiting for it to come. I want my body to get totally clean from it. How long will it take ? I started with kratom just of curiosity but I discovered it really helped me with my stomach problems Ive struggled with the last 15 years .. since i started with kratom my stomach began to be normal . But yeah the truth is that im scared of getting too addicted

[@josuetrujo]

@@Fishybusiness2024 I just had it yesterday again but never felt WD symptoms. I did it yesterday because I just happened to have access to it. I've tried to detox from caffeine and that definitely was extremely worse, kratom doesn't seem so bad if taken in low dose.

[@These-nutz]

At that dose nothing pretty much maybe a little anxiety

[@treewitch666]

I was on 30 grams plus for five years and symptoms peaked on day 4

[@blurredlights5235]

I wuit cold dturky aftr 3 years of... god maybe 6 or 7 times using a day. there is truly no telling the amount i have consumed. a half kilo would geet me just under 2 weeks. Keep on soldier, because i think we both know, at some point life is life, and no chemical will take that pain away. You can do it. I can do it.

[@Huntington1982]

When you first start using a substance you start out at baseline and then you go above baseline. As your usage/addiction progresses you're no longer starting at baseline. Your starting point is below baseline and you need to use just to return to your original baseline. I wish you good luck from here on our. Stay strong.

[@scottwilson9621]

Thanks for the video... for me though I always have better results from just going cold turkey. Tapering over a period of time sounds good but for a lot of us with addictive tendencies, a taper can just be an excuse to keep using it for longer. For me it's easier to just say NO and drop it then to take small amounts. Plus you get over the hump way faster doing cold turkey even if it may be more unpleasant at first

[@scottwilson9621]

...and use some Gabapentin if you can get it

[@TK-sz6nj]

I agree lol. I have tried tapering more times than I can count. Cold turkey has been the way I've quit most times, but the last few times have been with crushed leaf and has made it easy to mentally perform the taper. With that said, the actual taper is fairly short and intense. Some people taper for a year... I have had most success with a 1 week taper then CT

[@nomadicneanderthal1377]

Do you get significant diarrhea during taper? I'm coming off extracts and using more powder and OMG ...you have reinvigorated my search for whole leaf....I have steeped the powder with good effect but you still get some plant matter in the tea. Edit: the amounts are roughly 50gpm via extracts to 25gpm via powder (significant decrease) and occasional extract (typically to help sleep)

[@TK-sz6nj]

I dont really get the runs, but stomach gets uneasy , hard to eat, slight nausea... I've never used extracts. Hang in there and keep on the taper grind. Every hour of wd that you can handle is helping to lower tolerance and regain equilibrium.

[@nomadicneanderthal1377]

@@TK-sz6nj I gotcha and appreciate the response....I am gonna get off this stuff...the first time I took it a few years back it wasn't anything but those were capsules...this time around it's a different ballgame...may have to discipline myself to taking smaller sips of extract until I can stop...went no powder today and haven't had diarrhea so that is in fact what it is ( same thing happened in July when I tried to quit). Thank you man

[@TheMookie1590]

your gut biome will be screwed. you have to get that repaired. your gut brain axis has tom be in harmony. bacteria make everything your body needs and cause inflammation when you look at them funny. they regulate sleep, mood, emotions, memory, like everything. research it some, look at some studies. its the most important organ you have because its your subconsciousness that runs everything in your body.

[@evanscott999]

Good luck man. Ever think of going to na meetings?

[@TK-sz6nj]

Don't have NA where I live, but considered AA.

[@BryanMcNamara-f3w]

Hope all is well. I want to swap to the liquid only tea. How do you measure it out and make the tea? Ive never made it into a liquid only. Thanks!

[@TK-sz6nj]

I did it with crushed leaf and powder. Both of them I just measured with a teaspoon or table spoon. For the powder I would bring it to a simmering boil for 5 mins then let it cool over night and the powder would naturally sit on the bottom, easy to pour the tea off the top. Same with crushed leaf or you could use a French press

[@TK-sz6nj]

Hope you're doing well

[@MarkandAndrewballout]

Thats exactly how i feel!!!

[@barronscott3637]

I'm about to start my tapering tomorrow. Ughhh,work is going to be hard. Thank you for your video.

[@LoudenSwain]

How’d it go

[@candidcamel]

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