Women as Imams

Let The Quran Speak -
It is commonly known that men have traditionally led the ritual prayer (salah) in a mosque (or in a public prayer). Br Shabir gives us his analysis of the Quran and hadith related to this ruling.
Segment aired on October 25, 2008 on CTS

[@Aasiyah99AlwaysReady]

I love how his daughter is the host subhanAllah

[@Aasiyah99AlwaysReady]

Aown Ali If QT was brown and Muslim yes!

[@shairsko9360]

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[@tahirshaheen7946]

@Wraith what's wrong with it? They aren't doing anything wrong, rather they are doing a service by educating us. Hazrat Khadija (R.A) did not become a successful businesswoman by hiding at home. She rode into war, proposed to Prophet Muhammad etc. Don't be ignorant.

[@babeena_gt_3645]

@Wraith he is to show he is educating her properly

[@smiggy8657]

@Wraith - bhagerti.

[@carlosmora9815]

Wow! I discovered the channel just a couple months ago, I had no idea it had such a long trajectory. MashaAllah!

[@muntahashakeel5609]

Yes, dx channel is incredibly amazing

[@ahmed-do7ni]

Me also

[@zaibshahzad5047]

Ya, same here!!! Wow!!

[@akhan07]

Wow this is why I love Let the Quran Speak. Issues are discusses in a way they aren't anywhere else.

[@beeps7]

“Among the signs of the Hour are that knowledge will decrease and ignorance will prevail.” Sahih Bukhari 81 A woman does not bend over in front of a man during prayer. Roku (a prayer position) is practically grabbing the ankles. Yet people turn this into a "womans rights" issue... just ignornace. May Azawajal grant us knowledge that benefits.

[@MrEvldreamr]

beeps Why do we follow hadith in the first place. It's a book written by men.

[@ditoosiahaan5077]

MrEvldreamr sister, dajjal is near and you should back into islam. We know because women are easily triggered and deceived into his agenda.

[@MrEvldreamr]

Men are easily triggered and deceived by other men. Not surprised a man would try to tell a woman her place while addressing a book with clear misogynistic messages...but I digress....

[@nikkikiki1624]

You sir are the proof why women should not pray in front of men

[@kalijasin]

@beeps, Where did you learn Islam from??? Hadeeths don't replace the Qur'an!!!!!! To be prohibited by Allah it must be from the Qur'an.

[@Obscura0511]

There's too much discussion about women leading prayer. In my opinion....if she is true in her faith and capable....let her!!! Do you truly believe Allah cares? He looks at your heart and intentions...not your gender. Too much is placed on custom and tradition, and not enough on the veneration of the divine.

[@zaprese]

Well, he will only care if they are menstruating. .

[@pjq420]

women can be one but depends on the situation and condition.those assumptions of equality or discrimination against women are just ridiculous views used by the western long time ago because none of them really studied the whole concept of many branches in islamic law.islam have regulations for everything that's exist so you think it's to be understood by even a day of a video?

[@adoreslaurel]

And both of the children have turned out to be amongst the most well mannered,well adjusted people I have met and are a credit to their parents.

[@mahdiyusuf3431]

Our faith is complete nothing can be added or dedication

[@WhiteGeared]

Mahdi Yusuf Not really! There's plenty of occassions where appropriate concensus can take matters into hands and u know it pretty well I think - Ijma, kiyas or ijtihad. But I agree that basic faith must be universal constant.

[@MS-pk2wk]

If she started a women only jewish synagog and proclaimed her self a rabbai she will be in jail for anti semetic charges. Someone who is not currently married cant give advise on marriage...until she marry a muslim man. An Imam obtains credentials like how a priest does from the church and cannot be self pro-claimed. There is No female Monks, No female Pope, No female priests or Rabbai's. Even Nun's cover the hair. Nun's wear kind of a Hijab. Dear Sherin Khankan stop putting excessive perfume or makeup and try to hide your beauty from strangers in public like Quran order you to do. Try being a boarder line muslim first before proclaiming yourself an Imam (Imam is masculine male verb in Arabic by the way), you would become an Imam'ah which is a feminine word in Arabic. Multiple women in groups of four at a time will always be allowed to have one husband and female share of inheritance will always be smaller then related males. Quran is not editable. Women in Islam are not allowed to read the Quran or fast or pray when they are on their monthly period, so i assume the mosque will be closed a few days per month ?????? Regards..

[@NormaKhan]

*Bokari wants to know your location*

[@fireonearth80]

@@WhiteGeared Alhamdulillah, Women Imam is not Ijma yet.

[@-humsafar]

No the world changed addition is required

[@harrykuffal6516]

Alhamdulillah, masyaAllah this was recorded 14 years ago, I learn so much and Allah bless br Shabir Aly and us all

[@duncan3998]

Dec 20, 2008

[@oumarsakho9769]

Alhamdulillâhi Rabbil âlamiin. Thank you Dr ALLY for sharing your knowledge with us. May ALLÂH SWT Protect Bless Help Guide and Grant all of us Jannah. Amiin Amiin Amiin

[@duncan3998]

there ain't no Jannah for Pharaos like u

[@emotion152]

Ameen YA RAHMANI RAHIM RABIL ALAMEEN ❤️...🤲🏾

[@nabilkhansujoy7165]

There is no prohibition on Women leading the prayer in Quran. It is mostly Male Chauvinism and something to do with the social fabric which contributes to such sentiments.

[@carlosjurado2634]

It would be a lot clearer to a simple Muslim like me, if you could simply answer the question: Do you pray behind women? If so, why and if not why not? Thank you.

[@ssabri23]

Show me the hadith that says women should not be leading the prayer!!!! And if it's not mentioned in the Quran, why do you have to look for something that denies it? Only 300 years after the dead of our beloved Prophet (s.a.w.s) men start changing it and brought their own rules.... why??? because of POWER!!! without they feel powerless and I pity you guys!! And if you come with perverted ideas why a woman should not lead a prayer, then you should learn first about the prayer. What do you do during the prayer? thinking about sex oder how to communicate with God? If you Communicating with God, then you will not be distracted by even a naked woman right next to you!!! Think about this!!! WASALAM

[@jackknox138]

Preach akhi !

[@aboubacarsissoko4342]

The thing i see is if we really look at things carefully, some things could be logically deduced. It is not like everything should be said explicitly. For example, Allah does say that women should not be prophets, but has anyone heard of a woman prophet sent to a nation? Let us not see everything as a form of keeping women down. We all have our roles as men and women.

[@fathanahrafee995]

this is because u have to see from the social context in that period of time where the people were vicious towards female (e.g. a culture to kill baby girls born in households like caliph umar before he converted). if Allah had sent a woman prophet at the time, the society wouldnt budge to accept the truth. so for now, as the modern society has progressed, and women are being acknowledged more than ever, this male-centered culture must change!

[@aboubacarsissoko4342]

" if Allah had sent a woman prophet at the time, the society wouldnt budge to accept the truth." I don't think that is a solid argument because even with many of the male prophets in the past have been rejected by the societies in which they are sent. Also, Women have thrived in the past a queen and powerful individuals like the queen Balkissa for instance. Second, sending a woman as prophet could have been the best way of showing that men and women are equal and could lead equally in everything. If the society does not budge to accept her, Allah could simply destroy them as He has done in the past.

[@zaczain5654]

why don't you show anything fro Al Quran or Hadith that allow a woman can lead a prayer. After the dead of our Prophet..Aisyah (ummul mukminin) never take charge to lead a public prayer. And Bro...woman can lead a prayer if there is no Man around. No Man around doesn't mean that they can establish an all female mosque.

[@سبحانالله..الحمدلله..هوكليالله]

One should not be looking "ahead/up" when standing in ir during prayer. One should be looking "down" at about 45 degrees. When women are leading prayer.. women are in front with "barrier" & gap in between both. Barrier - Covering - Partition.

[@DreamBelief]

Well presented argument and easy to understand, not jumping to one or other conclusions. I think it was dealt with very well masha'allah

[@PrivateCitizen1348]

Stating that men are required to lead prayers [ barring women from leading ] would be an innovation, a new rule, in Islam. Men have traditionally led prayers primarily due to cultural and social influences rather than religious restraints. There is no reason why a qualified woman can not lead a prayer. In my opinion, it would help all people learn more self-control {e.g. (some) men could learn to control their 'sexual desires,' ego, and actions more as they would have to focus on lowering their gaze more in order to pray}. Every person should be able to pray free of physical desires and ego, with humility, and should be focused on God alone.

[@PrivateCitizen1348]

@Mohamud Ahmed The second half was my opinion on how to get back to the way the Prophet taught; to remove negative cultural influences that taint His message.b

[@PrivateCitizen1348]

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[@PrivateCitizen1348]

@Mohamud Ahmed 29:46

[@PrivateCitizen1348]

@Mohamud Ahmed The Holy Quran. It's multiple layers of messages. Messages of Peace for the Heart. Messages of Islam. That verse was applicable to our comments. Don't you agree with the Quran?

[@PrivateCitizen1348]

@Mohamud Ahmed What you say or I say doesn't matter. What the message of the Quran and The Messenger says is. They do not block women from leading prayers. Other people established those 'rules,' but in doing so went against the heart of The Message. The Quran even speaks within itself about how religions have been corrupted over time by those who wish to change the message for personal gain and power. Did you read the Quran verse? If you are a believer, that is the message from our conversation. Peace be upon you. (I wonder if I too would have called The Prophet, pbuh, or Allah, 'Dude' if the Quran was recited directly to me). I hope when that day comes I am able to improve my manners and character as the Prophet, as the Walking Quran, taught His many messages. Peace be upon you.

[@Chandransingham]

Interesting discussion. Seen on Easter Sunday in london on 12th April 2020.

[@xtreme6018]

Thnk u..may jesus bless on u

[@AlexJarrah]

(2) الرِّجَالُ قَوَّامُونَ عَلَى النِّسَاءِ بِمَا فَضَّلَ اللَّهُ بَعْضَهُمْ عَلَىٰ بَعْضٍ وَبِمَا أَنفَقُوا مِنْ أَمْوَالِهِمْ فَالصَّالِحَاتُ قَانِتَاتٌ حَافِظَاتٌ لِّلْغَيْبِ بِمَا حَفِظَ اللَّهُ وَاللَّاتِي تَخَافُونَ نُشُوزَهُنَّ فَعِظُوهُنَّ وَاهْجُرُوهُنَّ فِي الْمَضَاجِعِ وَاضْرِبُوهُنَّ فَإِنْ أَطَعْنَكُمْ فَلَا تَبْغُوا عَلَيْهِنَّ سَبِيلًا إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيًّا كَبِيرًا ﴿النساء: ٣٤﴾

[@HakimAzzikri]

Maybe the Ustadz forgot about this aayah..

[@saidhashi2856]

Men are caretakers of women.

[@estherniqab8324]

In Christianity women are not to teach or usurp authority over men when taught correct. Women can teach and pray with women and children. In this area Islam seems to agree in general. Sadly, most have given away to feminism and it has destroyed much of Christianity.

[@themercyofourcreator]

Br. Shabir Ally is a prominent and highly qualified scholar of Islam. Masha Allah, he is the next best intellectual scholar in the lines of Br. Jamal Badawi and Dr. Zakir Naik. Most certainly Br. Shabir is a highly respected intellectual scholar.

[@dervaishkhanofficial]

This issue of females leading a prayer is so interesting. I will not side with any version but will keep following it. I love such theological issues inside my great religion.

[@arifralf1982]

Is Shabir related to the host. They both have the same surname

[@Mallan_]

She is his daughter.

[@whatislifebuttheenjoymento3405]

SubhanAllah.. I can't believe i heard that right, like a woman leading a prayer from shabir ally. I have looked out to dr. Shabir for a long time, never expected him to say this. I am grouping him as a the akhiru zamaan scholars that were prophesied in the group.

[@kasimovsaid5523]

All Prophets p.u .them were Imams. Do you know any woman prophet? Even the best of women Mariam binti Imran (mother of Isa a.s) never was an Imam to anyone. After Rosul s.a.w. passed away none of his daughters or wives were not public imams. So if you want to follow authentic Islam there should not be Imams from women leading men's Salah. If you want still be lead by woman imam then do not call it islam or traditional salah. You just created new religion for yourselves.

[@tepuawaitanga-o-te-aokarah2619]

Yes there were hundreds world wide

[@tepuawaitanga-o-te-aokarah2619]

Well then that's why the leading women should be one who cannot bare children for example a Elder women, or barren women, or younger girls whom have not reached puberty, or just women who want to learn once competent, this is also educate and helps women girls learn, and gain confidence, sometimes I think many men like having dominance for the wrong reasons, bu Idon't see a problem, older women do not get their period, also for all women it's good to learn. My culture elder women like Native wahine(women) of New Zealand have similar tradition as Arabs well according to my family tree my family lineage is, and my people would have women call the visitors onto the land in a cultural way and then man takes over inside the house with prayers and speech, men walk into the house first to protect women, and men sit at front of women, women recite chant after the mans speech only if needed, men do most of the reciting prayers. Women these days many are speaking because men lack the skills, I believe women should be able to help men, as they say a home needs a women's feminine touch, culture, religion should be praised together equally in this way it should be respected. If men think thoughts of Lustful temptation, then that proves their faith in Allah is weak, any persons who believe in God should have strength to reject Shaytans Evil whispers. I don't understand how men expect women to be demoralised and under them when thy womb Is Carried for 40wks inside a women is the creation of Man, Allah gifted us women to carry life, in which Allah gives the breath of life. From a cultural view, men were usually at the front to protect us women, not because of superiority. But men were stronger than women, but these days many men are far from that, it's sad to see. My forefathers all protected their women and I come from a long line of Chiefs. And i will tell you i come from 56 Generations of Chieftainship and some were Women. Many men from the beginning of this ideological movement many sinned, so why should I or many others follow such slander. Many uneducated third world countries would assume it's because women are meant to be slaves, and once in writing it is taken way out of context. If a man who is righteous whom has never sinned stones a women let he be one whom has never sinned. That is what Isa Pbuh said to the Romans according to their beliefs, so in saying that why does man dare to go against the Prophets Messenger. These days women many of us are providers of our families and we are thousands of different nations can do just as much as a man can, and many men have lost their way and become women and weak at the knees of Shaytan. Women are less likely to stray. Fact! May we be blessed with the knowledge and think in the right way, may Allah forgive us all and the world, may thee have mercy on us, for thee loveth us unconditionally, may our people who follow Islam Practice Allah's lore/Law in the right way and not be mislead. Peace in thy heart, thy mind and thy soul and keep us from separation, and stressed our Faith, for Our Lord Almighty Allah is most merciful, illa ilahi ila allah ana muhammadin rasuloolah there is only one God, and bless the messenger Prophet Muhammad Sallalahu Alayhi w'AlSallaam. May Allah bring Peace to our world and redeem us from all Evil. Amine.

[@unapologeticmuslim1575]

Whilst this is a logical approach we must remember that no woman led the prayers in the masjid at the time of the Prophet SAW. Theres no point in doing an act of worship which won't be accepted by Allah. We should stick to the way the Prophet SAW did things, that's the safer way.

[@WhiteGeared]

Unapologetic Muslim But prophet never prohibited it himself and no his age was different so we have to adapt with age in halal ways of course e.g. women r leaders and armies and rich without husbands. But I wonder how will they lead salah consistently if they have period often? And even if a female Imam past her period leads the salah, would she be able to lead long salah like tarawee consistently?

[@peonypink7943]

@@WhiteGeared well, you could argue that not being able to do wudhu is restricted to those who are sick/unwell. Periods are not a sickness and is not unclean. If blood was unclean men would not have prayed in blood when in battlefields. If a woman has periods where she is unwell, then yes it makes sense she is not able to cleanse (and therefote pray) or fast but if not, then there's no issue. Keen to hear your well-researched and intelligent thoughts in a reply. Thanks.

[@WhiteGeared]

@@peonypink7943 As far as I understand, there's no citation from prophet himself that says salah with period is permissible, rather opposite is true. And no, blood from physical strikes and blood from biochemical reaction is vastly different. It is said by prophet to not wash martyrs rather bury with bloodsoaked state that they are in which is opposite for periodical blood. So the question remains if a female Imam can wash clean and it seems the period stopped, will it be still valid to pray or lead prayers. It seems yes but better not to handle the situation where she misjudged the next occurance of the period when it happens during salah. It will then complicate the situation tenfolds e.g. if the followers prayers are valid as they don't know and many others I can think of. And as far as I understand, this restriction doesn't apply to fasting at all. Females can fast whether they are in period or not. I meant only salah when citing 'prayer' word.

[@muntahashakeel5609]

Respect n lots of love😊

[@vicachcoup]

Those desiring to create fitnah in Islam will push this issue

[@roycetondesilva4949]

Why is it not allowed for a Muslim family go to the mosque and pray as a family

[@bagh98]

i thought we're talking about women in hijab here. if the women are properly dressed, which everyone is expected to be in a prayer situation, men won't have anything to check out. and again, this problem can be solved if men and women are separated anyway. one woman leads, other women stand behind her.. and the men in the next room or behind the curtains or something. :p

[@MrEvldreamr]

bagh98 Idk wtf anybody's talking about anymore. Women leading prayer is a complete non-issue to me.

[@Amorphis777]

This is the third source of jurisprudence in Islam after the Qur'an and the Sunnah. It's authority comes from many scriptural sources...

[@smkhan6773]

Your explanation of hadith is out of context. The Prophet had said that on a certain occasion when the Muslims defeated the Persisns and woman was chosen to lead them... Also Umm Warqa used to lead prayer in her area where the Muazin was a man, so it shows that she led prayers for mix gathering...

[@shamsterthehamster]

We can't keep thinking the same way we used to think centuries ago since the world isn't the same as it was centuries ago.

[@aftabahmad8658]

Asselamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu.... If it's a topic of women leading the prayer than I accept that if women not lead prayer (where men also praying behind) it's better, based on my observations besides of words of beloved Prophet (pbuh).

[@thea_creatrice]

Here we are in 2020 where more bida'as are to come. Ya Allah forgive us and guide us to the straight path. It is painful to see all the signs of the Hour , but we must be strong and not accept others invitation to innovations

[@ehsanulmajidify]

He made the subject more confusing. The question is why all the sahabas and scholars thought that women shouldn't be imam? Big question?

[@rachelb941]

I think the simple answer is probably the correct answer. Because they were misogynistic.

[@razakkalik9072]

Sheik.. Refer to alquran ayat 34... And there's a couple of hadith concerning women to pray behind men and women to pray at home...

[@saidhashi2856]

Anas ibn Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “A time of patience will come to people in which adhering to one’s religion is like grasping a hot coal.” Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 2260 Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani

[@xndon]

Women can't be Imam cuz they get on menstrual period every month. This means you needs a backup Imam all the time.

[@sessizgozlemci]

Stupid "argument".

[@altannuur7689]

Ever heard of tampons?

[@marija8097]

Altan Nuur woman cant pray while menstruating

[@kasimovsaid5523]

Good point.

[@vanivor]

@@altannuur7689 ever heard of wudu?.....how can she pray or lead prayer without wuzu?

[@MrPolarbear1961]

The Hadith Narration pertaining to Umme Warqa Bint Haris gives convinvincing argumants...For me,the real issue is as a ruler,can she deliver Friday Khutba,,because Friday Khutba is peroragative of The Ruler...Thanks for an illuminating discussion...Please refer to Misquoting Muhammad by Jonathan A.C.Brown for detailed discussion.Sincere Regards

[@mujeebabbasi1604]

May Allah bless you both Daughter and Father , year 2009-2022

[@worldlyviewer]

this guy is ridiculous. woman pray behind men, thats how it was and thats how the messenger organized it. do not change the religion if you fear Allah. it's not for you to apply logic, it's for you to listen and obey. you don't have to understand why some things were mandated, you just have to obey. thats why it's called surrendering to the Lords will. where is spiritual faith, if everything made logical sense to you? the whole point of faith is to trust in God and follow his commands.

[@LastRambo341]

- The woman's body is very different from a man - It is haraam to be gay. So that gay man has to hold down his urge, if he can't, then he should pray at home

[@AlexJarrah]

وَقُل لِّلْمُؤْمِنَاتِ يَغْضُضْنَ مِنْ أَبْصَارِهِنَّ وَيَحْفَظْنَ فُرُوجَهُنَّ وَلَا يُبْدِينَ زِينَتَهُنَّ إِلَّا مَا ظَهَرَ مِنْهَا وَلْيَضْرِبْنَ بِخُمُرِهِنَّ عَلَىٰ جُيُوبِهِنَّ till the end of the Ayah. ﴿النور: ٣١﴾

[@hamidijafri]

How about you discuss "The historical fate of women before Islam" and then start what ever future you want to discuss.

[@salehfarman3879]

Firstly, I wanna apologize to all women. I am not sexist and I believe that goes for the teaching of Islam. The Prophet Esa mother, who came from a Prophetic family but yet she was not made a Prophet. The Grand Quran quotes that she was above ALL WOMEN and yet no Quranic evidence that she was a prophet or made an Imam AQ.03:43 - OH MARYAM, WORSHIP THE LORD DEVOUTLY. PROSTRATE YOURSELF AND KNEEL WITH THOSE WHO KNEEL. The Grand Quran says that, Maryam prostrate herself. It means that she did her salat by herself without congregation. At the same time she was asked to Kneel with those who kneel. That simply means, kneeling which is a form of prayers where people humble themselves not in the same way as a congregation salat. Possibly in a form of zikir [remembrance of ALLAH] or in a form of du3 [prayers]...... ALLAH KNOWS BEST

[@zakamoto1643]

Allah SWT created 124000 Prophets and not one of them was a woman. If that does not explain the plight of women then what does ? If you empathize with women I can understand; but it does not warrant an apology. Still ; we see the ideal condition of woman in the example of Mary who was satisfied with her Lords decree. But somehow woman today is not so satisfied. Buckle up brothers or prepare for the worse. Sometimes You've got to be cruel to be kind.

[@redviolet8695]

Yo all men. Its none of your business. Go focus on how to inore attractiveness from women. So many of you bastards talk about it!

[@Nami-bu2qf]

​@@zakamoto1643 Oh and do you know the 124000 Prophets? If their identities are unknown how are you certain that none of them were female? Also, think about it rationally. Historically women have had very little to no rights at all in society. Even when Allah SWT sent Muhammad SAS who was the last and most recent Messenger, their society was STILL such that women had ZERO rights and were treated as subhuman if you look into the history. So you can just imagine a women's state in societies that came before. And we already know when Allah SWT sent messengers, they've usually been met with great opposition from the very beginning. You think that in those olden times, had a female delivered the message instead they wouldve be more inclined to listen when they already refused to listen to a man? It stands to reason that THE most effective way to have gotten a message across in those times was to send a man. Even now, people are still more inclined to listen to and believe men. It wouldve essentially been a waste of a message to send a female in times where women were not meant to be seen or heard. She wouldve been burned at the state asap for being a witch. Even IF they were all males, the logic is flawed to draw the conclusion that they were all males so they could lead prayer and be imams when there's a more logical explanation as to why they were all males. It's not like all societies before prayed the same way or were even prescribed prayer or had the equivalent concept of an "imam" either so it doesn't even make any sense to say thats the reason.

[@endzeitx]

@@Nami-bu2qf Generally men are less emotional than women, making them a better choice as a leader that's why it made sense if all the prophets were men. "And [mention] when the angels said, "O Mary, indeed Allah has chosen you and purified you and chosen you above the women of the worlds" [3:42] Just like the guy said Mary is the best woman amongst all the nations and still not made a prophet.

[@nabeelmusharraf]

@34centipede: the way of the prophet is absolutely compulsory to be followed... it is mentioned in quran that follow what ur prophet S.A.W. says and not following what he says is not what Allah likes... so not following the prophet S.A.W. means not following the quran and not pleasing Allah...

[@MrEvldreamr]

Nabeel Musharraf Actually.....you only follow the prophet so long as he follows God. If his words or teachings run contradictory to Gods word then we cant follow him. All the prophets of God are like this with the exception of Isa. Even Moses angered God bc he is only a human.

[@PrInCeSsuk8]

can you elaborate please....... what is ijma

[@Amorphis777]

Prophet Muhammad Says in authentic Hadith: "This nation does not agree on a fallacy" This means that the consensus of scholars of old will never take place on something that is false! So if it has always been observed that it is not allowed for a woman to be Imam, or for people to do Salat in a mixed congregation, and not a single disciple or scholar of old even suggested otherwise; then anything else is by necessity false and innovation!

[@Nemomeansnoname]

I'm pretty sure Mary is seen as a prophet in Islam. God spoke to her and that equals being a prophet.

[@DrXoz]

do you know that divorcing accoridng to the bible and biblical scholars are forbidden in christianity?

[@myyou1]

Why does he go a round in circle? He should unequivocally state: as Imam Ibn Hubierah [d. 560A.H.] rahimahullah says: They [the scholars] have complete consensus that it is not permissible for a woman to lead a man in prayer in obligatory prayers. The evidence the scholars use is available for all to reference. Allah knows Best!

[@WhiteGeared]

myyou1 What's the Imam's logic? Just so a companion or Imam says so doesn't mean it's shariah. But of course if the logic is significantly applicable and acceptable then it must be implemented as shariah after concensus.

[@FunnyYoutubeShots]

But are the muslimah's complaining....this should not cause any problem... Allah knows best

[@fathanahrafee995]

yes, there is a growing number of muslimah questioning the male-centered traditions. but whenever they wanna further the discussion, they get cut off and condemned badly by society.

[@kumpulanvidiohiburan9801]

Evans Boamah a lot of muslimah complaint because they thaought in islam it is forbidden for a muslimah to be leader either as imam or as president. They didnt know that there is no prohibition in quran for a woman to be an imam, just the same like "having a dog is not haram, music is not haram, homosexuality is not haram." All of them are not written haram in quran. Thus, we can not add our own rule if God says it is halal

[@kumpulanvidiohiburan9801]

ShitGotReal whay?? Fake hadiths……

[@SAli-yb9us]

Muslim women are already leading prayers, please get over yourselves 😁

[@WhiteGeared]

S. Ali It's the question of not leading salah cause women r actually leading salah among women since thousand of years now. It's now the question of leading man as an women.

[@asimoromzi]

mother ayesha,khadijah,fatimah is much more pious and knowledgeable womens but they never lead the prayers.

[@thesahanewspaper7214]

Please, kindly help let me know which religion was Adam and Eave practiced

[@Umaima_Faheem]

Islam😄

[@kalijasin]

16:116 And do not say about what your tongues assert of untruth, "This is lawful and this is unlawful," to invent falsehood about Allah. Indeed, those who invent falsehood about Allah will not succeed.

[@crazyduck7040]

Allah will rule the world accept it

[@crazyduck7040]

You cant stop a God allah knows everything and already knows what going to happen there no point of try to stop him cause you just fail

[@sids500]

@34centipede "Thats the Quraan. You shouldn't be reading any other books" That just sums up the petty simple-minded, closed attitude that gets islamists into sexism, racism and bigotry in the first place. Read other books and learn, then you might know enough to realise that all religion is nonsense, and the world would be a calmer, more friendly and rewardingly educated place. This world is incredible, you don't need a book to make up stories about it, study and enjoy your one life.

[@Nemomeansnoname]

Muhammad (pbuh) used to recite from the lap of his wife while she was on her period. Does that mean that every time we recite Qur'an we must do so in this way? The Prophet nor Allah never specifically disobeyed the leading of prayer by a woman. If it was really such a "no no" don't you think it would have been mentioned at some point?

[@fisebilillah4406]

Nemomeansnoname You can find hadiths in the comment more up where women are prohibited to lead men in prayer.

[@AmirAmir-cp1qo]

"We're living in age where the rights of women are champion..." Oh so you mean the age of the prophet women were not Champion?!!! Nonsense really!

[@redviolet8695]

Yo your a boy. Its none of your business

[@WhiteGeared]

Amir Amir Um what prophet women?! R u freaking fool?!

[@suleimandeadaccount6225]

you didn't understood what he meant, did you? Okay, I agree that he wasn't much clear either

[@JiruTiyya1]

@Amorphis777, i think wheather there is hadith or not, why would a person create something that was not approved during the prophet(SAW). These women have no knowledge of the deen or just don't believe in the hereafter. I would not risk my belief if it's not worth it. all the things that happenning are crazy.

[@sids500]

@Machher786 I think the fact you mention womens "religious education" being encouraged, with other education in brackets, as if it's umimportant just shows the priorities of islam. You make my argument for me. As for no women imams when there are men in the audince, how much more sexist could islam be? men rule men, men rule women, women rule women, but women cannot rule men! Again you make my argument for me.

[@abibra9362]

Masha Allah, jazakallahayr

[@waymilky442]

Some men also use women's periods as an excuse. :/

[@Soulblackman]

does not stand out front of other sisters, as she stays in the ranks. The home is different, as hadis do confirm that a woman did lead her husband in prayer, as she was MUCH MORE conversant in Qur'an than he. I would suggest that as time moved on, and he grew in knowledge, he would be the primary leader of prayer; couldn't tell you if this would forever preclude her leading in the future. Interesting topic, though.On another note, we must be mindful of a feminist influence, which serves to

[@xtreme6018]

Why u nt talk about aisha n salama as a imam n khadiza as politician n economist.??!!have u anyone knw this??? Can women as a leader,politician,imam,economist,scholar,commander???? I thought its haram bt when i research im shocked!!!

[@ThriveWithLouise]

women shpuld have rights to be in leadership. islam teaches to empower women and men, islam is a fair religion. this makes no sense

[@casimir2926]

learn to become a proper Muslim then speak to us

[@MrEvldreamr]

Casimir How about you learn to become a proper Muslim before speaking.

[@fisebilillah4406]

ThriveWithLouise Qur'an commands to follow Sunnah. Sunnah forbids women from leading men in prayer. Islam teaches that women and men are equal but not the same. I.e. men and women have different roles.

[@babarkan]

women can work and educate also.. it s said dat if the woman who works and decides to give her salary to her family (coz only man should spend and take care of his family),it s considered as a charity..!!! and Muhammed (pbuh) asked to educate every being..!!

[@123bbbaaa]

I can understand this is a heavy topic for you ... it is premature to discuss such topic with you guys in the absance of understanding the Islamic Aqeeda ... I suggest you understand the Creator (Allah) and then take the next step.

[@Jay-NYC]

Unfortunately you are correct with the current situation of women not being able to stay home and care for the children they helped bring into this world. That was what feminism has struggled for and got women into even though most women at the time of the feminist movement couldn't care less about going out and working even harder and leaving their children with strangers. If you notice, it is still an issue because its unnatural for it to be the proper way of raising a family.

[@adoreslaurel]

But it is going to continue,there is no going back,and,regrettably those who follow Islam in the west will either have to adapt to this or try to adjust their mindset to be content to live in economically reduced circumstances and I worry about the effect this will have on the minds of the young who try to remain faithful to the religion but see that great problems exist for them in keeping up economically.

[@talhatariqyuluqatdis]

All of you calm down

[@MsYouthink]

@DamienZshadow we as Muslims are order to follow the book and the Sunnah. Allah also order us to follow the noble companions. There is no report to say that women lead the prayer...are we not happy with their actions? did Allah not made them a model to be followed. the problem is not the text or the understanding of the text rather the problem is western sickness...what i mean is that those idea are alien to Islam. we need to talk from the text with the understanding of the salafi.

[@princessixora1726]

In my humble opinion, our beloved prophet say to follow Quran and Sunnah. There is nothing that the prophet 'forgot' to tell us or did not have time to 'show'. If it is permissible for woman to lead men, there must have been an incident Aisya lead or any noble women or mother lead her male children etc. As it happened..this never took place during prophet time or Sahaba or Calipha. Didn't the prophet said best worship place for women is in her inner part of the hoyse? Is that not clear? Why people make a big fuss about equality stuff...man and woman are different end off. I think the bigger deal is your core believe..so woman...get real..our purpose is slightly different from man! Live with it and don't try to be something you are not. Take example of famous muslima in the history and try to follow their good examples if you want to be on the straight path. If not..live with your thoughts and don't persuade others to stand up for the wrong thing.

[@RaoufAthar]

If the Quran and Hadith don't record an incident about women brushing their teeth or ironing their clothes or becoming a doctor, does that mean brushing teeth is haram for women? Is ironing clothes haram? Is becoming a doctor haram? Does that mean women can't drop of kids to school and women can't momorize full Qur'an?

[@nabilkhansujoy7165]

@@RaoufAthar You have made an enlightened comment unlike of any Muslims I have heard..

[@Amorphis777]

Ijma' my brother is the consensus of scholars of the Salaf (the Sahaba and the tab3'een: Disciples and their students, along with the rest of the three favored centuries, not to mention other ages of the Umma up to this day.

[@WhiteGeared]

Amorphis777 Who told u other umma is shariah?! Prove ur statement from quran and hadit.

[@knightlylad]

If women were imams, there wouldn't be so many wars between muslims.

[@PrInCeSsuk8]

There will be more jealousy and cat fights

[@kasimovsaid5523]

That is exactly what they want. Fitnah..

[@talhatariqyuluqatdis]

knightlylad That is an incredibly rediculous argument

[@fisebilillah4406]

knightlylad Women as imams would bring wars. If you want Muslims to stop fighting, then we have to hold strictly to Shariyah so that Allah may send us a Khalifa.

[@RaoufAthar]

@@fisebilillah4406 Just give them a chance. they will bring peace

[@muhammadxhemali234]

This is an act of worship you don't look for legislation forbidding it rather you look for legislation that allows it. I can't make my dhuhr salah seven rak'ahs because i think it is good, a person can ask what forbids that? nothing forbids it but it is an act of worship and acts of worship everything is haraam until something comes to prove otherwise, not the other way around. Salah is an act of worship you cant just add things and say who says I can't.

[@rabidsara]

@nofreedom4racists When in any contemporary islamic society are Imams protecting followers? How can a woman not defend Islam? There are two definitions of Imam. One leads the prayer and the other is the head of society/state. Traditionally during the Prophet's time, Imam not only led the prayer but also was the head of the state during a dangerous time of political unrest. The contemporary Imam does not do this. Heck, even Bhutto was a female prime minister! Much more "dangerous" job than Imam!

[@yusufbinmichel6245]

Islamic Fiqh is clear on this topic. Women can not lead salaht in public full stop! No woman lead salaht at the time of the Prophet (saw) or the righteous caliphates... this is a non issue! Please don't mislead people... Dar referes to her children (under the age of 10)... She can lead until her son can lead... this was the practice...

[@gclowne174]

Parooting the prophet and the sahaba is probably much safer than falling into the wanderings of psedu scholars.

[@abdulmalikabubakar9431]

He speaks of islam and giving jurisdiction as if he is fit for the position. Dr shabir you are not fit.

[@123bbbaaa]

May be in your religion and not in Islam because Allah and His Rasool (PBUH) decides what Islam is. Per Islam, Women cannot lead men in pray; that is how Allah (SWT) wants us to worship Him.

[@rabidsara]

@britishbengaltiger Your use of foul language, and your rude and disrespectful attitude would most certainly be frowned upon by the Prophet (saw). It is highly offensive in a forum where people are trying to have intelligent discussion.

[@rabidsara]

@britishbengaltiger lol how does this video prove that he has no knowledge of the fiqh or the Arabic language? He has knowledge of hadith and Qur'an, how is this not knowledge of fiqh??

[@123bbbaaa]

Like I said earlier ... ignorance is a devils play ground .... you need to learn more about Islam before you make any messed up comments about Islam. You really need to go back to the basics of Islam (Akeedah). This will be my last sincere comment to you.

[@Nauseum]

In all seriousness I have to ask, how could a woman subject herself to this?

[@fisebilillah4406]

Nauseum Because she like us all is surrendering to God. We merely follow His Laws.

[@adoreslaurel]

Ok I wish you well if you can do as you are and get by,however I have two Muslim friends who are medical professionals and they have managed to raise their two children whilst both have worked and they are liberated enough to allow their daughter to travel to Europe as a single woman with two female friends, and to the best of my belief,the daughter is now working for a big organisation in Europe, the family does not display any outward sign in their clothing of Islam.

[@kenleulhmmm5808]

I would love to see women imams but I was thinking what if they get their period ? Would they have to take a week off every month ?

[@shugylaassylbay6096]

Then any other women can lead prayer, what is the problem?

[@AntoineLamond1]

At 1:23 Forward Makes No Sense. Assume That A Man Is Leading Women In Salat. Wouldn't She 'Possibly' Be Lusting After Him Too? Also, There Is Evidence Of Closet Gay Muslim Men. How Do We Know Men Aren't Lusting After The Imam Leading Salat? See How This Stupidity Breaks A Part?

[@sids500]

@Machher786 Where are the female imams? female leaders? You just follow a bronze-age middle eastern farmers mentality, and a book clearly written by men to gain power over women, and equally importantly, over other men of different or no faith.

[@aamriable]

Urato...you are perfectly right!!! this guys seems not to knowlegeable in Hadith......Women cannot speak load so as her voice is heard by men.

[@Rustam1961]

This is to reply the video can a woman lead men in a prayer congregation? It is mentioned in Al-Targheeb Book of Salaah Hadith # 336 Prophet s.a.w said: The best mosque for a woman to pray is her own house. Another Hadith in Masnad Ahmad Vol..6 Hadith #27202 A woman asked the holy Prophet s.a.w that "I love to pray with you" Prophet said, I know you love to pray with me but the best place for you to pray is your own house.

[@Nemomeansnoname]

Ah yes, the classic "you just don't get it" tactic. Rather than actually address the question, it's much easier to simply say that "us guys" lack knowledge or understanding. In other words you're using circular logic and you can't defend it.

[@kurtunger8074]

To think that men have the sole right to lead a prayer is idiotic.

[@WhiteGeared]

Kurt Unger Women competing with man is unscientific. They r supposed to be complement not competition.

[@sids500]

@Machher786 So don't involve a god then. Just mix. Again my point beautifully made by you! Men and women can mix just fine without religious oppression. And why should a male not "check out" a female imam. It's completely natural thing to do. It does not mean he will rape her or harass her. I bet you "check out" women all the time. There is nothing qwrong with that, but your religion seems to be fearful of it?

[@abdouabdel-rehim8537]

I think there is also another inducation: women are generally encouraged to pray at home and not at the mosque. Isn't that correct? I think this is a good discussion but men are required to lower their gays so it is a bit strange to ask a women to lead the prayer while there are men. I think it is more than just social decision

[@TabsiraProject]

I wish he would explained more clearly and made a better distinction between the single prayer and congregational ones. We should be more firm on these issues and I do not think that muslim need to revise anything! ma3ath Allah

[@saadprincekhann]

@mayflowerstein tht is wrong a women is not allowed to pray in the presence of a unknown man even if it is it should be your husband ur wrong u are only going on womens rights aka wrong

[@doodysun]

especially if she is wearing jeans

[@Infinitiely]

This is not sexism at all. Definitely no. Hell no.

[@hamzatniyi3541]

Please what is the Aqeedah of this Imam? He looks like a tradtionalist but his lectures always suggest otherwise. All what he said here are gibberish. A woman cannot lead men in congregational prayer, We do not need to have any discussion. . It is an innovation and all innovations will lead to hell fire.

[@Nemomeansnoname]

Every scholar or teaching I've ever seen says the exact opposite. It is lawful unless it is said otherwise.

[@shairsko9360]

Is that his daughter? She called him brother! 🤦‍♂️😂

[@alteregeau]

Seeing this 12 years after 😂

[@shairsko9360]

@@alteregeau 🤦‍♂️☝️🤣