Ishmael in the Bible and Quran | Dr. Shabir Ally

Ishmael is known as Abraham’s son in Judaism, Christianity and #Islam. But his role is depicted quite differently in the Bible and #Quran. In the Quran, for example, Ishmael works with his father to build the Kabah; in the Bible, Ishmael never went to #Mecca. Join Dr. Shabir Ally and Safiyyah Ally as we continue our series, Prophets in the Bible and Quran.
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[@i-lovliesk-diamonds7317]

This man is very respectful.

[@thefaithfulchristian2035]

Matthew 24:11 - and many false prophets will appear and deceive... 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And many false prophets will appear and will deceive many people.

[@neiladrianorilla660]

I like how he was careful and respectful in comparing the narratives. He is highly intelligent 👏👏👏

[@kronos01ful]

Highly deceitful! Its so obvious that if Muhammed claims to be decendant of ismael its clearly written that he is curse. Islam is evil. Why ? Because it contradicts the word of God /jesus. Mohammed had nothing to do with mount Sinai with the commandments there were no covenant between God and Arabs never been never will. Muhammed rejects Jesus as hes lord and savior. That makes him Satan. And you follow Muhammed.

[@neiladrianorilla660]

@@kronos01ful Highly disrespectful, that is your opinion. I follow Jesus and though I dont know much about Islam, I respect their beliefs. The people in the video is a proof that one can compare & contrast 2 different religions with enough care and value. All religion deserves respect

[@kronos01ful]

@@neiladrianorilla660 Hi ! Sorry you feel that way. Let me ask you Did jesus respected the Pharisees?

[@kronos01ful]

@@neiladrianorilla660 you have know idea whats going on on this video. You don't stand for truth.

[@randylester8274]

@@neiladrianorilla660 Well Said Neil!!! Thank You

[@zuvarashetapiwa7742]

I'm Christian and proud, But i gotta say Dr Shabir Ally is quite the respectable and truthful man. My deepest respects to him

[@zuvarashetapiwa7742]

@Yawson nab Our side is gud, y,all gotta deal with Hijab

[@neiladrianorilla660]

I agree!!!

[@mariancrasto6943]

Son of Devil cannot and will never appreciated in Christianity. Sorry but I doubt u r even Christian

[@zuvarashetapiwa7742]

@@mariancrasto6943 Thank you

[@benice7514]

@@mariancrasto6943 he’s not agreeing with him just simply saying he’s respectful, if ppl are more respectful there will be more chance to have debates and win more souls for the kingdom of God

[@trinahartman7667]

I am a Christian, but I believe in order to be strong in our faith, it is important to learn about other beliefs. I have always been interested in the split between Muslim/ Christian/Jewish. The differences between the Quran and the Bible. Thank you for presenting the information from both.

[@kennithlambert2563]

Silver tongue devil.

[@jamesmock2109]

your wrong we can't all be right the truth can't be compromised there is no other Gospel Islam is a False Religion

[@jeremycrawford4004]

I'll make this quick for you dude...Ismael died and never established a priesthood in the earth in scripture. NEVER. Ismael was never declared to be a high priest in the earth in any scripture. NEVER. Melchizedek? Aaron? Those were high priests recognized and declared BY GOD in scripture. Of the Messiah it was written "thou art a high priest FOREVER after the order of Melchizedek" that priesthood will NEVER be changed and ONLY that high priest, Messiah, is the author of salvation. ONLY that high priest, Messiah, is capable of making an atonement for sin on your behalf. Wanna know WHY the prophet of Islam wants to skip over the cross and pretend it didn't happen? Because he KNEW if the story of the cross is told, that is the atoning sacrifice that makes Jesus the LEGITIMATE High Priest after the order of Melchizedek. The prophet of Islam had ZERO ability to receive offerings and offer a sacrifice to legitimize his claim as high priest, so now he just says salvation is free and there IS NO atoning sacrifice needed. That makes the prophet of Islam false with his teaching about salvation and forgiveness of sins. The high priest was ALWAYS the selected mediator by God to offer a sacrifice on both HIS behalf and on behalf of the people. So, in conclusion? The prophet of Islam had ZERO atonement for HIS sin and he offered ZERO atonement for YOUR sins that was accepted by God. Class dismissed my friend.

[@becbarr13]

@@jeremycrawford4004 The Three Promises of God (Romans 4: 13-25) The promise of the land. the promise that his descendants would be a great nation. God promised that Abraham and Sara's descendants would become God's people, that “they would be as numerous as the darts in the sky,” and that they would be a blessing to all families of the earth the promise that through his descendants (this nation) all the families of the earth would be blessed. Sarah is the wife of Abraham, the mother of Isaac, and thus the ancestress of all Israel.

[@jeremycrawford4004]

@@becbarr13 also, the redeemer of Israel and Light of the gentile had to be a kinsman redeemer to fulfill prophecy, which would've come through a descendant of Abraham AFTER the law of Moses was given, and that would've only included Isaac because Joseph and the Hebrews were a separate tribe by that point. Ismael had moved on, died, and started a separate lineage and nation of people by the time the law of Moses was given. The descendants of Isaac, and not Ismael, were given the law of Moses so it had to be fulfilled through Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Muslims twist like a pretzel sometimes to make their flawed Ismael theology fit and it will never work theologically.

[@jeps.e4305]

This Muslim teacher teaches very well....i am a Christian but i find this man to be a very good teacher he elaborates very well

[@AfricanNewsConduit]

dr Shabit has more intellectual integrity! rare among muslims! but Qu'ran is indefensible !

[@80__HD]

I follow Jesus but let me tell you something : I have nothing but the utmost respect for the Quran and the Muslim religion.

[@user-nh8ev5te5x]

As a Muslim, I appreciate your respect for Islam and Muslims, for we are all sons of Adam, peace be upon him. That is why we consider the whole world to be our brothers in humanity, and our religion does not prevent us from treating non-Muslims well and kindly, especially if they are neighbors or relatives, and I offer you, my friend, to watch people like Sheikh Othman Farouk Explains Islamic concepts about God Almighty and the prophets, peace be upon them, in a simple manner, especially Jesus, peace and blessings be upon him, who we believe is the last of the prophets for the children of Israel in particular.

[@user-sc2pf1yn9y]

@@user-nh8ev5te5x muslims are not the children of Isreal ,. People who are saved by Jesus is the Children of Isreal.

[@ahmettozman3627]

@Gadios Pasión de Gavilanes & Màs novelas❤💜 🥰🥰🖤

[@dirtypete7744]

@@user-nh8ev5te5x so if we are all sons of Adam and Ishmael fits right in front the Christian narrative to the Muslim one could it be possible that we are praying to the same god? Not to mention that they both had an angel named Gabriel as their messenger

[@user-nh8ev5te5x]

@@dirtypete7744 1- I do not know why the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) always come up with the issue of comparison and competition between Ismail and Isaac, peace be upon them, according to our religion, both of them are noble prophets and faithful servants of God, and we do not prefer one over the other. 2- Yes, God, whom the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) believe in, is the same God Almighty whom Muslims believe in, but Christians believe in the Trinity of belief that Muslims and Jews reject alike. 3- Yes, Gabriel, peace be upon him, is the angel of God entrusted with the prophets and revelations, and his title is the Holy Spirit

[@PPSNonFin]

As a christian i appreciate how respectful he is. Being that we are both people of the book its fascinating to see how much we have on common

[@merlenepillay5760]

As a Christian, much respect to both of u. Dr Shabir is very intelligent. A great man.God bless.

[@angelzsymphony4387]

As a Christian you should never respect a man that is corrupting God's words. And denying that Jesus is God.

[@freaksexpose2482]

@@angelzsymphony4387❤

[@midnightblitz8324]

@@angelzsymphony4387 Amen!

[@thecalmingspace7242]

Can you not respect and love others?

[@ahmedfaiyazazad8415]

​@@angelzsymphony4387The Bible itself is corrupted .. Meanwhile the Quran matches with it's manuscripts

[@sddwilliams3448]

I’m a follower of the Bible and when it says in Genesis 22 the reason why he says take Isaac your only son is because by that time Ismael and Hagar had been sent away. And the reason why it says it again later in the chapter is because God made it clear before that the covenant would be only with Issac so he’s the only son that issac has that is worthy in the eyes of the lord to take on what the lord wants from his descendants. That’s what I get from it.

[@samiuddinomer8154]

I love ismaeel(a.s) ❤️ and my prophet muhammad(saws) ❤️ From india 🇮🇳 alhamdulillah ☝️

[@Allahu-akbar73]

We also love Prophet Issac (Alaihisalam)❤

[@nickyglowessentials5085]

I love you Dr Shabir ally, you're indeed a man of great wisdom

[@thefaithfulchristian2035]

Matthew 24:11 - and many false prophets will appear and deceive... 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And many false prophets will appear and will deceive many people.

[@jdg9359]

As a Catholic, I find this man to be a true scholar.

[@juanitagartley937]

Do you believe your Catholic leaders are scholars?

[@georgephilips3813]

@@juanitagartley937 They are better than your f**king leaders.

[@DW_Kiwi]

Really! Where did he get his scriptures from??

[@georgephilips3813]

@@DW_Kiwi That's right.

[@etienne2364]

Seriously suggest you read Genesis 18 to 25 At the beginning of this clip he says that Ishmael was the child to be sacrificed but when you read Genesis Ishmael has been cast away with his mother Haygar . We are told that Ishmael will be a wild donkey of a man he will be against all his brothers and all his brothers will be against him, how true this is today

[@noeldoyle4501]

I'm Christian too, and I appreciate the calm educational responses of the learned doctor. I really liked the way he recommended that the father should fully inform family members about very big decisions, especially in matters relating to God. Thanks for your video.

[@jamescurtin4412]

I am Catholic a practicing Catholic however I like to learn about other faiths and Dr Shabir I am impressed with the show and how you teach. Your cohost is also very good God bless you.

[@paulkher]

Muslims and Christians are brothers, why so much fighting? Peace to all.

[@squigglyline6488]

@השואל makes sense! remember his hand will be against all nations and all nations hand against him.

[@squigglyline6488]

@השואל however, you may interested to know that the blessed virgin appeared to the muslims. It's documented in a Catholic book I have.

[@mabokemahlo]

@@squigglyline6488 please share more of those details...

[@mabokemahlo]

The fight is for the truth to prevail. We as Christians accept everyone as they are, but like prophets, we try to share the gospel that people my return and accept the Lord Jesus Christ. That's why we can be friends with anyone. I know some are extremists, but the Bible commands us so.

[@paulkher]

Yes, we can pray, debate, seek to find the truth, but we shouldn't be physically fighting.... clarification.

[@bushraabdulle936]

I love all my Muslim Brothers specially those who put their time to teach Muslims and non-Muslims exactly what is Islam is and how we Muslims practice our Religion exactly even though some Muslim don't follow what is Islam exactly is saying anyway I just wanted to say JIZAAKALAH for all those Muslim Brothers who put their time and energy to help people with Religion and people without Religion may Allah protect all Brothers and sisters who are working so hard to spend time and energy to build Islamic Educators Scholars all may Allah protect you from all Human Evils and Shaydan AAMEEEEN

[@yurichtube1162]

Islam is a political system.

[@jamesheggs6825]

there is no mention of 'Alla' in the Bible.....wonder why

[@golpogil3880]

@@jamesheggs6825 Arab Christians call Allah

[@md.taufiqulhuq7827]

@@jamesheggs6825 Are you sure about that?

[@animated6875]

​@@jamesheggs6825 ask arab Christian

[@steve_james99]

The way God works actually blows my mind. As a follower of Christ Jesus, I’m very impressed with what I learned here. God’s plan is so articulate. I pray whoever reads this finds the way, the truth, and life in Jesus Christ. Amen

[@shiningstar3312]

Read Patriarchs and Prophets by EG White.....Biblically based....it will blow u away!

[@norainiayub2150]

Jesus ia not god

[@shiningstar3312]

@@norainiayub2150 He called Himself GOD and proved He was/is GOD....I believe

[@fitzgeraldvankoesveld8674]

@@norainiayub2150 He prayed to the Father in Heaven

[@fitzgeraldvankoesveld8674]

He prayed to the father in heaven

[@amandarecoveryjones8216]

Wow I learned so much. Thank you teacher Dr. Shabir Ally

[@swordofallahkingoftheworld7678]

يقول الله تعالى في سورة المائدة : قل يا أهل الكتاب هل تنقمون منا إلا أن آمنا بالله وما أنزل إلينا وما أنزل من قبل وأن أكثركم فاسقون ) الآية 59 . صدق الله العلي العظيم

[@user-sc2pf1yn9y]

Bible new testament is 660 years older than quran ., Isaiah was best known as the Hebrew prophet who predicted the coming of Jesus Christ to salvage mankind from sin. Isaiah lived about 700 years before the birth of Jesus Christ.

[@alfarooq9208]

@@user-sc2pf1yn9y when does your bible being canonized? We have Qur'an before you have your bible you only have torah psalm ketuvim and gospel🙂 it wasn't complete btw read your own history

[@jodevs6077]

Shabir is the person who most Christian's like and respect. Such a gentleman, love this guy.

[@DW_Kiwi]

I'm a Christian and I think he out to deceive everyone. Even you own!!

[@godsonnsofor1554]

As a Christian I love his wisdom nd grasp of knowledge. I really wish all christians and Muslims can be like this man instead of spreading hate people should be knowledgeable nd spread 💕 Amen

[@AfricanNewsConduit]

you are dellusional! Ishmael will be a donkey of a man .. stubborn and very violent.. TO THIS DAY!! TO THIS DAY !

[@emnorkoeng1841]

MasyaAllah.. Alhamdulillah.. You guys who do dawah for Islam are really really marvelous. Thank you. May Allah SWT guide those newly reverted to Islam to the right path and bless them and all the ummah with Jannah. Aamiin 💕🌙🕌🌺

[@9999rosebud]

who is on the right path? Jesus called God, FATHER or HOLY FATHER Moses called God FATHER Deut 32:6 Abraham called God FATHER ISAIAH 63:16 David called God FATHER Psalm 89:26 All the believers of the Christian faith called God, FATHER Allah's 99 names FATHER is NOT ONE OF THEM.. WHO IS ON THE RIGHT PATH?

[@walkingwith_dinosaurs]

Amin!🎉the day I discovered LTQS was truly a blessed day❤

[@syedfaizanali367]

Today while reciting Qur'an I realized another important clue mentioned. When angels gave glad tidings Abraham AS of a son Ishaq (Issac) AS they also gave tidings of the grand son Yaqub AS (Jacob). So when Abraham (AS) is aware that Ishaq AS is going to live and have a grandson. This(Ishaq AS being taken for sacrifice) wouldn't make sense. This thought cleared the iota of confusion in my head today. I firmly believe that Allah means Ismael AS as the one taken by Abraham AS for sacrifice.

[@9999rosebud]

Ishmael dwelt in Paran Gen 21:21 21 He (Ishmael) dwelt in the Wilderness of Paran; and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt. God tested the faith of Abraham.. Gen 22:1 1 Now it came to pass after these things that God tested Abraham, and said to him, “Abraham!” And he said, “Here I am.” 2 Then He said, “Take now your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” SINCE ISHMAEL DWELT IN PARAN THE ONLY CHILD LIVING WITH ABRAHAM AT THAT TIME IS ISAAC AND SO ISAAC WAS THE ONE SACRIFICED.. ABRAHAM IS CALLED THE MAN OF FAITH, BECAUSE HIS FAITH TO THE ONE TRUE GOD HAS BEEN TESTED...

[@TinyArtsofLife]

quran is enough to prove that issac a.s was the son during sacrifice, the glad tidings of issac as a prophet not as a birth

[@9999rosebud]

@@TinyArtsofLife I would say it is by birth.. Sarah was old and barren and passed child bearing.. God promised them that Sarah would have a son and God said.. Genesis 18:14 14Is anything too difficult for the LORD? At the appointed time I will return to you in about a year and Sarah will have a son.”

[@TinyArtsofLife]

@@9999rosebud I agree with u as some scriptures and arguments agree. but lord didn't grant prophet tidings to ishaq(pbuh) by birth itself until the story of sacrificial will of Abraham and Issac(peace be upon them).

[@DW_Kiwi]

Why don't you read the original Jewish (Torah) scriptures? You will learn something quite different to that of your Qur`an. May God bless you

[@hendryjohnson3056]

I am a Christian first born of my late mother and I have a brother who is a Muslim from the second marriage of my mother, and I love my brother I don't see religion as a barrier from him being my brother, Muslims and Christians are brothers why can't we live in peace????

[@user-oc5ur1gy8m]

islam is not a brother religion to Christianity. There is only one God and God makes it clear in both the OT and NT that mo is a false prophet. Even if Angels preach another gospel they are antichrists. islams sole purpose according to Jesus is to take people’s souls to hell. Love your brother by saving his soul.

[@diananaitore4008]

This man is trully a man of God..how he speaks with wisdom respect and authenticity aaaaah I want to learn more

[@diananaitore4008]

@Farhan there other scrolls that got lost and you could be right or you could just be overthinking...have been searching for this books and relating to the Quran ...I really want to learn more

[@FaithQuest]

Coming from a Christian, this is incredibly interesting! Dr. Shabir Ally does a wonderful job at explaining the differences between the two

[@mubashirbhat668]

​@riverdalehigh8r5thow comes ishamel was illegitimate when Ibrahim was married to hajra.

[@patrickmaichuhie8331]

A highly respectable man. Great man full of wisdom.

[@anthonysalve4023]

I found the way Dr. Shabir is speaking. Is a intelligent and respected man. It is very hard to found such a great people nowadays in the world.

[@allisonloukanis1928]

Very interesting...thank you!

[@irvinemurombedzi9628]

Ishmael was chased away together with his mother Hagar at the of aged 13 years after he had mocked Issac during the weaning party that was held in honour of Isaac. Isaac was two years old then. The Mt Moria sacrifice took place after Ishmael was already cast away. So the person concerned should have been Isaac (the only covenant child living with Abraham) and not Ishmael hear. This does not demean Ishmael in any way. He was blessed greatly by God.

[@ishmael4489]

Thanks for the video!

[@thefaithfulchristian2035]

Our Father, who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name; thy kingdom come; thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil. Amen.

[@claudiajones356]

Thank you sir & ma'am. May our Lord bless you always

[@dashinglc5901]

Great to hear both perspectives

[@theman8070]

From? He cant represent both book, go listen to a bible scholar to tell u the bible account

[@cjhepburn7406]

Excuse?

[@abdulgany393]

Assalamualaikum Tuan Haji. Very informative. Jazak Allahu Khayran.

[@firenationfilms2205]

Reading about both religion....all comes to the words that we are "one"

[@SilentValley2023]

Samuel Sunday, Let me correct your understanding. Looks like you are not familiar with the passage in the Bible. Here's what we read in the Holy Bible: " Then God said, “Take your son, your only son, whom you love-Isaac-and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you.” - Genesis 22:2 And that settles it. It was Isaac that God asked Abraham to sacrifice, NOT Ishmael!

[@qxvackhouna7522]

False because you Ishmael was the first son of Abraham and here you stated the verse that says sacrifice your only son whom you love there for it couldn’t be Isaac cause he was the second son so that’s actually false and it was Ishmael who Abraham was to sacrifice אַדִיר לוֹחֶם

[@SilentValley2023]

Qxvac Khouna You didn’t read the verse fully well... God made it clear by mentioning the name of Isaac! If you want you can put Ishmael’s name in there, but you cannot change history. Thanks anyway.

[@SilentValley2023]

Albin Wilson 🙏🏻, 2 Timothy 4:2.

[@G.TheEnd.]

One what?

[@roseb.5367]

I liked this conversation. As a Christian, what I know true is that Ishmael was blessed directly from God. So what I know for sure is that there were Israelites, Others- (those who served other gods, those who knew of God, those who didn't follow anything ), and Ishmaelits. It doesn't matter to me which son was almost sacrificed because the moral of the story stays the same. Fast forward past all the stories biblical or any others stories and past the prophet; what I know for sure is that Jesus came and tried to marry all three groups and have us as one, died for our sins, and through him are we saved. So what I know for sure is that either all follow Jesus and reconcile with God, or they don't, and they continue believing in their original religion. It really doesn't matter what people choose to believe in just as long as we show love and not force each others beliefs down the others' throat or think one is truer than the other. The Bible doesn't show Jesus to violent or forceful, etc. Through Him we have a new covenant, via His sacrifice, that calls ALL. Looking forward to watching more content, true knowledge is good. Thank you.

[@SA-Arabia]

*Blessing of Ishmael* God in the Bible asserts the blessing of Ishmael’s descendants in more than one verse as shown: Genesis 17:20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard you : behold, *I have blessed him,* and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. Genesis 17:7 And I will establish my covenant *between me and you and your seed* after you throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto you and to your seed after you. Genesis 21:13 And also of the son of the handmaid will I make a nation, *because he is your seed.* Genesis 21:17 And God heard the voice of the lad. And the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth you , Hagar? Fear not. For God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is. Gen 21:18 Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in your hand. For I will make him *a great nation.* *What does a blessing of Ishmael mean?* As we see here, God in the Bible is talking about Ishmael being blessed, and that he will have a great nation. According to the Bible, a blessing means prophecy among his descendants. For example if we looked at Genesis 27 at the story when Jacob took the blessing from Esau and its result, we would realize prophets were raised from Esau’s descendants, but many prophets were raised from Isaac’s seed. And Prophet Muhammad ﷺ was raised from Ishmael’s descendants who are the brothers of Israel as the Bible tells in Deuteronomy 18:18. Someone might say that this prophecy was fulfilled in the verse which says that Ishmael shall have 12 sons as in Genesis 25:13-14. Actually if the blessing was just regarding descendants, then actually Esau had two great nations as well, not only the Edomites as mentioned in the Bible, but also the Romans as mentioned in the Talmud, and the greatness of the Roman empire is well known to everybody. So it’s clear here that the blessing is not related to a fruitful nation, otherwise we would have seen Esau blessed as well, but a blessing rather means that a great prophet shall come from Ishmael’s descendants. *Isn’t the covenant of God established with Isaac only?* It might be said that the covenant is with Isaac only as the Bible says: Genesis 17:21 But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, whom Sarah shall bear unto you at this set time in the next year. Well, this was in the beginning, then it was transferred to Ishmael’s descendants, Jesus said to the Jews that the kingdom of God shall be taken away from them: Matthew 21:43 therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and shall be given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. Calling Ishmael as a fruitful, that he shall have a great nation is very clear in praising him, otherwise, if God knew that a false prophet came from his descendants where a great nation followed him, why did He describe this nation to be great? Also the nation Jesus told here doesn’t mean the Christian nation, God said that the sign of the covenant between him and the descendants of Abraham shall be the circumcision, which should be one of the fruits of the kingdom of God: Geesisn 17:10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee: *every male among you shall be circumcised…* 13 He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an *everlasting covenant.* 14 And the uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin, *that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.* So it clearly tells that the sign of this covenant is circumcision, this covenant is everlasting and that the one who don’t circumcise breaks God’s covenant, which Muslims already do while according to Christians , Paul cancelled circumcision. Muslims are the real followers of Abraham. The Bible says: Genesis 12:3 and I will bless them that bless you, and him that curseth you will I curse: and in you shall all the families of the earth be blessed. Muslims bless Abraham at least 5 times a day in their prayer. At the end of every prayer, a Muslim must say: “O Allah! send your Salat (Blessings, Graces, Honors and Mercy) on Muhammad and the family of Muhammad as *You sent Your Salat on Abraham and the family of Abraham.* O Allah! Send Your Blessings on Muhammad and the family of Muhammad as *You sent Your Blessings on Abraham and the family of Abraham.* You are Praiseworthy, Most Gracious.” So if Muslims bless Abraham, the Bible says that God blesses who bless him, how come the followers of a false prophet be blessed by God?

[@Charmed4eva1]

Wow👏 very deep, thank you for this Alhamdulillah 🙏

[@ugottaluvutube]

Thanks for this. Great interview.

[@jonathanmathau7401]

A very respectful teacher, we need to respect each other and live a peaceful life.

[@ClaytonBigsby89]

He skipped over the fact that Hagar bore Ishmael, not Sarah

[@Rotisiv]

And We gave him the glad tidings of Isaac, a prophet among the righteous ones. As saffat 112 Quran

[@mabokemahlo]

So Isaac it is...

[@putatdaun]

Following verse: “We blessed him (Abraham) and Isaac as well. Some of their descendants did good, while others clearly wronged themselves.”

[@putatdaun]

@@mabokemahlo To understand the context, u need to read whole story beginning from Verse 100-113. Isaac came later as Abraham descendant, sign a blessing from God.

[@SuperKafooo]

Make sure you edit and include the next few verses.

[@kathiramu1182]

Great personality explains bueatifully God bless him with abundant with knowledge

[@khaledking5408]

I hate the use of the term "Islamic tradition" Islam is a religion, don't downgrade it to a tradition

[@sohipohi4156]

When he says Islamic tradition, he means books of hadith and sometimes opinions of ulema

[@cyroo_k]

Thank you for being respectful unlike Ali Dawah and Zakir Naik

[@mrishmael8451]

The story of Ishmael being the heir was very true but, Christians has changed things round, I have a seemilar story too through my research

[@WarandFlame]

The Torah says Isaac. Jesus is a descendant of Isaac through Mary. Ishmael was the child of the slave woman. Muhammad wrote this after the Torah was established. How do you know Muhammad didn't change it? The story narrative is the Bible is to show that God will provide the sacrifice for sin. The slave woman represents slavery to sin...the free women's child hold the promise of freedom from sin through Isaac. The barren region represents barren land which represents lacking living water which is Jesus Christ.

[@Berliin9]

@@WarandFlame jesus being from the israelites proves that hes a prophet sent to israelites. ismael was seperated so it would lead to the prophet who meant for whole mankind. (so he wouldnt be confused for a israelite prophet). thats what it means.

[@WarandFlame]

@@Berliin9 Our story Ishmael represents the slave woman. Slave to sin without the Holy spirit

[@athenanikki4001]

Islam came after christianity, so any changes to the story of Isaac& Ishmael happened during the writing of the Coran. Isaac was the " promised son" because he ought to be born from Abraham & Sarah, the promise was not made to Hagar. Also, the sacrifice of the son Isaac ( the promised one) was a picture or a revelation to what was to happen way way later: God the Father was going to sacrifice His only begotten son Jesus so that whoever believes in Him will not perish but have an Eternal life ( Bible, John 3:16) I know Muslims believe in Jesus as a prophet but i wish they could believe in Him as their Lord& savior. A lot of Bible messages in the Old Testament told by various prophets ( trough revelation) were talking about the coming of jesu on earth to save Humanity, to reconcile humanity with God. May the light , love and grace of Jesus be on all of you searching for the truth.

[@o.d.flores1219]

@@WarandFlame This is so easy to understand I don't get why the Muslims don't understand this...

[@MaryamAli-vd1xv]

Thanks so very much for speaking about this subject.

[@Chandransingham]

Interesting Judeo-Christian and Muslim perspectives of the two sons of Abraham. Adnan Rashid is supposed to be writing a book 'Abraham Fulfilled" to cover this important milestone of the Abrahamic faiths. This came out in his debates tour with Australian scholars, could be with Samuel Green.

[@AdAstra86]

Most of the story its inverted dear

[@Jsnipes98]

@@AdAstra86 explain what you mean

[@sarabelcaida3944]

اهلان و سهلا بيك اخي العزيز الغالي كلامك جميل جدا بالتوقف الله يعطيك الصحة والعافية يارب العالمين شكرا لك

[@ndogarakumbare9471]

As someone looking to convert to Islam, I feel that i might struggle with these differences in views about Isaac and Ishmael.. but i think the lesson to be taken from it is that Abraham did not withhold his son when he was tested, whether it be isaac or ishmael

[@ndogarakumbare9471]

@Farhan yes i see how that could have shaped the narrative of the Torah; however, if Ismael was sent away by Sarah and the only remaining son was now Isaac it would still also make sense that God tested Abraham using Isaac. Either way Abraham passed the test

[@asif8224]

@@ndogarakumbare9471 God didn’t say sacrifice your only son who is left!! God said your only son!! Ishmael left jews land he was still 1st son of Abraham!! it do not make sense!! Only son can't be isaac!! If God meant isaac! He should have said your 2nd son!! On the other hand we see for 13-14 years ishmael was only son of Abraham!!

[@UdoyeTobechukwu]

@@asif8224 According to Shabir in this video and the Bible Ishmael and Hagar had already left Abraham (Gen 21)when he was told to sacrifice his only son, Isaac whom he loved(Gen 22:2). Now God had already told Abraham (gen 21:12) that his seed would come from Isaac his son from his wife Sarah rather than Hagar his bondswoman. in the quaran the son wasn't mentioned. But in the Bible it is clearly mentioned that it is Isaac. It's safe for us to conclude who the son was but you can't conclude using the quaran. Thank you

[@asif8224]

@@UdoyeTobechukwu the context obviously indicate it was ishmael!! 😑 read the passage of Quran! When Abraham passed the test than God gave isaac to him as a reward of patience!! And chose him for the covenant!! And all his brother was also in that covenant!!

[@asif8224]

@@UdoyeTobechukwu jews were chosen that's true!! But when they betrayed God Again and again God took the covenant and gave to arabs!! that's why God sent ishmael in wildernesses!! He knows future!! God took covenant from jews but gave it to ishmael seed!! That's how he kept the promise the everlasting covenant will be from seed of Abraham!!

[@hero54321]

Dr, salaamun alaykum,what do you think of Dr Hany Atchan’s marvelous Qur’an’s views on Ishmael?

[@nottinghamislam]

9:40 - Also according to the Bible in Genesis 25:9, Ishmael was there to bury his father Abraham so Abraham never banished his son Ishmael. The author of Genesis made a mistake when he or she wrote that Isaac was Abraham's only son in Gen 22:2.

[@phun1901]

Its not a mistake. It is to communicate the idea that for the purposes of God's promises to Abrahams children, Ishmael has no portion in it. He is giving a blessing. But he is cut off from special inheritance God had promised to Abraham's descendants. Issac is effectively an only child.

[@nottinghamislam]

@@phun1901 Is that the same with those who do not keep God's Covenant that those are also cut off from God's people? I.e., christians who do not keep the covenant in Gen 17:14.

[@phun1901]

​@@nottinghamislam Yes in a way. Those who perist in ignoring the New Covenant will be cut off. The requirements of New Covenant are to do with the heart, not just external rituals. The Old Covenant was helpful in exposing the sunfulness of mens hearts. The regulations of the New Covenant are actually much more difficult, they are concerened with true holiness of the inner-most being. Only with supernatrual help can people follow the New Covenant. If you compare the 10 commandments with Jesus' sermon on the mount (Matthew 5) you will see what I mean, that what Jesus taught was actually more difficult, more deeply concerened with the heart. If you read all of Colossians 2:6-19 you will better understand the relationship of the Old Covenant to the present time. This is one of the letters Paul wrote to the church in Colossae. Verse 11 and 17 in particularly address circumscicion. The circumsicion of the flesh is now replaced by the circumscion of the heart, done by Jesus. The circumscision of the flesh was only a shadow of what God truely requires for holiness. Other chapters you can read about the Old Covenant and its relation to the new are Acts 15, Galations 2, Romans 4 & 7

[@benwade7334]

Isaac was his only legitimate son. Ishmael was his son with Hagar, which was Sarah's servant. God promised Abraham a son, but Sarah thought it was taking to long for this promise to come true. She persuaded Abraham to lay with Hagar, this is how Ismael came to be. A few years later (12), Sarah gave birth to Isaac...thus fulfilling God's promise. Ishmael is the product of operating outside of God's will or doing things your own way. When God promises something, we can bank on it. It just might not happen according to our timeframe.

[@tazboy1934]

@@phun1901 there is no fulfillment of prophecy had it not been Muhammad nation

[@JUANMARCUZTIMAY]

Where can we buy english version of Quran?

[@shayanali3281]

Brother i do have the English authentic translation version. Kindly leave your Email address in the reply so i can share that with you, Regards

[@JUANMARCUZTIMAY]

[e-mail]

[@primaxin3132]

Amazon, eBay. Or just go to the mosque.

[@muhannadammar2807]

I believe you can get a free copy at the local mosque ...

[@D_141D]

free book the person who sell the guide book is devil person

[@sonofmichael7561]

Thus said my Master *YHWH* : The heaven is my throne And the earth is my footstool: Where could you build a house for Me, What place could serve as my abode? The Prophet Isaiah 66:1 (Tanakh)

[@TodaysReligiousTalk]

good information. excellent

[@jodoncaribbeancostarica]

So informative, thank you. And for not condemning the other religion.

[@cjhepburn7406]

Why should one religion condem another religion?

[@mahbubnoor4846]

إِنَّا نَحْنُ نُحْيِي الْمَوْتَىٰ وَنَكْتُبُ مَا قَدَّمُوا وَآثَارَهُمْ ۚ وَكُلَّ شَيْءٍ أَحْصَيْنَاهُ فِي إِمَامٍ مُّبِينٍ - 36:12

[@KobeAmeti]

Hehhehe maybe he no English

[@yasirmajeed7457]

@de not all muslims are arabic..... population of Muslims exceeds 2 billion and mostly live out of middle east.....😊

[@yasirmajeed7457]

@de I'm not talking about myself I read and understand arabic.....

[@yasirmajeed7457]

@de yes most of the muslims can read arabic but they dont understand.....

[@mahbubnoor4846]

@Victor Onanubi Verily We shall give life to the dead, and We record that which they send before and that which they leave behind, and of all things have We taken account in a clear Register.36:12

[@saparovakimkhan3920]

Hi Assalamualeikum! Please explain sura 2 aya 62, who are the Sabians? Thank you! Wish to orthodox Christians merry Christmas.

[@bikkohoro8448]

The Sabians are an African nation that inhabited Arabia peninsula mostly Yemen and Ethiopia. They were in that region before the migration of Ibrahim (as) from Ur (Iraq). Their last monarch was Queen of Sheba or Saba. They were sun worshipers and later accepted Suleiman (as) message that caused division amongst themselves. They also converted to Christianity later on and as well they were invaded by Persian Empire that led them completely move to Ethiopia. Very few Sabians remained in Yemen today but are treated as slaves by Yemeni light skin Arabs.

[@bikkohoro8448]

Somalis believe they descended from Sab and Samale. The Oromo Ethiopians says they are Saba Oromo which Saba means "nation" but it's actually a connection's point to show they were related to the Sabian nations.

[@KnuxTube]

I'm not sure of that idea, but I've read that the Sabians may refer to the Mandaeans, a gnostic, dualist, monotheistic sect of eastern Christianity from Iraq that reveres certain prophets, especially John the Baptist. Today, there are around 60,000 of them throughout the world.

[@maxxammedhus.468]

Sabians are people used to live in arabia particularly around Sana’a Yemen but eventually fled east Africa mostly in Ethiopia and Eritrea where their Kingdom had colonial administration.

[@corazoncubano5372]

@@bikkohoro8448 The origin of the ancient Sabians is still disputed by many scholars.

[@bausifarouk1798]

I love the lady who interviewed doctor shabir.very beautiful

[@tessa152101]

this is really good! :) ..... the "dream" has meaning. Sarah became jealous of Hagar & forced Hagar to flee. Abraham was upset & didn't want sweet Hagar to be alone... same with His son..

[@KRIMZONMEKANISM]

I think the whole beauty of Ishmael's sacrifice is that he submits to the will of God, as opposed to Isaac becoming an unwilling sacrifice as told in the Bible. This to me makes sense as Islam is the submission to God and his will, so from a symbolic point of view it all makes sense. And it especially does so, when you consider that the Prophet Muhammed himself is a descendent of Ishamel.

[@genespwa]

Yes that makes plenty of sense Ismael was so significant to the problem I meant promise to Abraham ..it is greater then Isaac .So the Jews made up stories and corrupts the Torah .they didn’t have as many prophets and the say the had ..they claimed many fake miracles . Ishmael was the promise one some how find himself in the desert with Agar leaving the house of Sarah and Abraham. At least Sarah didn’t leave the house and why not ?

[@troyperry7567]

As a member of the Christian clergy I want to thank Dr. Ally for being so respectful to biblical stories. I am not so sure that many of our clergy would be as respectful. Thank you for the calm way you explain to many of us the stories from the holy Quran.

[@RM-ci7be]

Muslims can't disrespect Christianity because the know that the religion is from the same God they worship.

[@monikatobias7061]

sometimes do not understand this Islamic, oky they tend to follow Islam or Ishmael but they wrote everything about Moses and respect Moses as a great prophet, do they really knows that, Moses is from the lineage of Isaac, and Jacob name changed to Israel.

[@elmamounlayal1416]

​@@monikatobias7061God(ALLAH) ordered muslims to respect all the prophets from Adam to Mohammed peace be upon them All ,because Adam,Abraham,Ishamel,Isaac ,Jacoub ,David,Jesus,.... they all invite us to worship one God without partners

[@a.s.6365]

Can you ask Dr Ally if it is permissable to take out a loan to perform Hajj. My mum wants to do Hajj but she can't afford to pay upfront. The only way she can afford it is via loan.

[@DIESELMO2NV]

No you can not take loans out to perform hajj you have to pay for it when you have money. So you have to save up money. You dont need to ask a scholar it is common sense learn the deen learn hadiths every little thing that you can find answers In the Quran and hadiths with out contacting scholars. Even if you have money if you owe someone one money and are in debt you hajj will not get accepted untill you pay off your debit!

[@SilentValley2023]

Ali s, Looks like you are not familiar with th epassage in the Bible. Here's what we read in the Holy Bible: " Then God said, “Take your son, your only son, whom you love-Isaac-and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you.” - Genesis 22:2 And that settles it. It was Isaac that God asked Abraham to sacrifice, NOT Ishmael!

[@sandralazarus7338]

Thank you.

[@iliek3102]

God works in mysterious ways

[@cjhepburn7406]

U2

[@keepingitreal1018]

Without faith is impossible to please God This theme can be debated over and over Sara and Abraham did not illustrate that faith They doubted and as a result Ishmael was born First born of Abraham This is that I arise I’m raised as a Cristian ; and I’m quoting the Bible “ without faith is impossible to please God “ One may say that yes maybe Isaac was suppose to be the chosen one due to the miraculous birth 14 years down the road and claim that because the birth was a miracle On the other hand one may say that God allowed this miraculous birth to take place not to seal not covenant but to show Sara abd Abraham that there lack of faith also caused to loose what he originally intended Men of little faith God does not prize lack of faith but usually illustrates the consequence of the lack of it I’m not taking sides but just making a point Peace be with all my brothers

[@jaylovely7083]

What about the other sons of Abraham? For He had more than two. Also isn't it that Ishmael was the only son for about 14 years. And Isaac was also the only son in the Household for about 40 years. When Ishmael and His mother Hagar had left.

[@matf5593]

Quelle bonne discussion. Merci beaucoup!

[@sho9214]

Even more amazing is the fact that the Quran never mentions the name of the sacrificial child; amazing indeed considering how overzealous some Muslims have been in their attempts to prove that Ishmael, not Isaac, was that son:

[@musarrataranur2625]

Yes, i feel it very funny.

[@mohdrabbani9976]

Beauty of Islam: 1. Revealed knowledge (Qur'an/Original Torah/Bible) 2. Acquired Knowledge ( Logic/Reasoning/Science etc) If a thing is not explicitly defined by one knowledge, we take use of another one with previous one. And when we take, we find that son was no one but Ismael Pbuh.

[@sho9214]

@@mohdrabbani9976 Ishmael name not even mentioned , the author just making speculation

[@mohdrabbani9976]

@@sho9214 Take use of logic and reasoning with reveiled knowledge. You will come to know, the son was no one but Ismail pbuh

[@sho9214]

@@mohdrabbani9976 use your logic too brother. Issac was conceived miraculously from old father and barren mother Sarah which is Abraham’s legitimate wife whilst Ishmael was born without miracle intervention. If this is test of faith, which one is more difficult for Abraham to sacrifice? Pray God will give you wisdom. If Quran is bold and perfect why don’t the author didn’t dare to put name just to create speculation

[@sho9214]

Isaac was conceived miraculously to a barren mother and a very aged father, with the Quran likewise agreeing (cf. Genesis 17:15-17, 18:9-15, 21:1-7; Galatians 4:28-29; Surah 11:69-73, 51:24-30). Ishmael was conceived normally without the need of any miraculous intervention.

[@Alkes777]

Sho- Since she gave birth to a child she was clearly barren until she wasn't.

[@sho9214]

@@Alkes777 yes that’s why Issac is a called born miraculously whilst Ishmael is not. He was born becos of flesh desire and not patient enough to wait God’s promise, which one is more difficult for Abraham to sacrifice?

[@Alkes777]

@@sho9214 Luckily the whole story is of course mythology anyway. Just the notion that sacrificing anything, human or animal, is somehow a thing is at the very least ridiculous.

[@sho9214]

@@Alkes777 it’s up to u to believe or not nobody push you :) but u can’t prove it either

[@Alkes777]

@@sho9214 Can'y prove what?

[@user-ul5pt1yb8z]

Thanks a lot

[@Dhaos620]

Very interesting

[@abhishekjrp13]

I like how Dr. Saffiyah tries to keep Dr. Shabir in the topic. G-d bless you guys.

[@DW_Kiwi]

A just noticed as I listened to more of this video that a point this man makes is by saying that It is believed by Islam that Ismaël was the son to be sacrificed by his father Abraham. But if one "reads" the Christian bible (which agrees with the Jewish texts) for Genesis 22 it says; Quote; "Now it came to pass after these things that God tested Abraham, and said to him, “Abraham!” And he said, “Here I am.” 2 Then He said, “Take now your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” End Quote. Notice that it specifically says "Isaac"; your only son, Isaac"!! Where does Islam get the idea that it was for the other son; Ishmael?? Something is very wrong between these two religions.

[@azambharoocha7509]

Age factor. Isaac was only 2 at the time and was not able to speak clearly. No need to fight over it. Look at the facts please.

[@naeemna9677]

وَالنَّجْمِ إِذَا هَوَىٰ - 53:1 مَا ضَلَّ صَاحِبُكُمْ وَمَا غَوَىٰ - 53:2 وَمَا يَنطِقُ عَنِ الْهَوَىٰ - 53:3 إِنْ هُوَ إِلَّا وَحْيٌ يُوحَىٰ - 53:4 عَلَّمَهُ شَدِيدُ الْقُوَىٰ - 53:5 ذُو مِرَّةٍ فَاسْتَوَىٰ - 53:6 وَهُوَ بِالْأُفُقِ الْأَعْلَىٰ - 53:7 ثُمَّ دَنَا فَتَدَلَّىٰ - 53:8 فَكَانَ قَابَ قَوْسَيْنِ أَوْ أَدْنَىٰ - 53:9 By the star when it descends, This fellow-man of yours has not gone astray, nor is he deluded, and neither does he speak out of his own desire: that [which he conveys to you] is but [a divine] inspiration with which he is being inspired One Mighty in Power has taught him, [an angel] endowed with surpassing power, who in time manifested himself in his true shape and nature, appearing in the horizon's loftiest part, and then drew near, and came close, until he was but two bow-lengths away, or even nearer. And thus did [God] reveal unto His servant whatever He deemed right to reveal, The [servant's] heart did not give the lie to what he saw: will you, then, contend with him as to what he saw? For indeed he saw him at a second descent, by the lote-tree of the farthest limit beyond which none may pass (Near it is the Garden of Abode.(jannatul ma'wah with the lote-tree veiled in a veil of nameless splendour.... the eye did not waver, nor yet did it stray : فَأَوْحَىٰ إِلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ مَا أَوْحَىٰ - 53:10 مَا كَذَبَ الْفُؤَادُ مَا رَأَىٰ - 53:11 أَفَتُمَارُونَهُ عَلَىٰ مَا يَرَىٰ - 53:12 وَلَقَدْ رَآهُ نَزْلَةً أُخْرَىٰ - 53:13 عِندَ سِدْرَةِ الْمُنتَهَىٰ - 53:14 عِندَهَا جَنَّةُ الْمَأْوَىٰ - 53:15 إِذْ يَغْشَى السِّدْرَةَ مَا يَغْشَىٰ - 53:16 مَا زَاغَ الْبَصَرُ وَمَا طَغَىٰ - 53:17 لَقَدْ رَأَىٰ مِنْ آيَاتِ رَبِّهِ الْكُبْرَىٰ - 53:18

[@emmanuelperez3690]

God is certainly not the Auther of confusion it have to be the devil

[@tazboy1934]

@@emmanuelperez3690 yes i agree the devil among human messed up the bible

[@G.TheEnd.]

@Victor Onanubi He is a child. Corrupted at birth by his IS-LAMe religion. But knows nothing about it. or cares. He would rather play child's games and troll.

[@allebasi66]

Why dont you say that Abraham left Hagar in Paran , which is next to Petra ?

[@m.hanifshaikh7151]

*Name of Ismael is described as patient and the chosen and outstanding* 👉🏿 Q 21 : 85 وَ اِسۡمٰعِیۡلَ وَ اِدۡرِیۡسَ وَ ذَاالۡکِفۡلِ ؕ کُلٌّ مِّنَ الصّٰبِرِیۡنَ ﴿۸۵﴾ۚ ۖ And [mention] *Ishmael* and Idrees and Dhul-Kifl; all were of the patient. 👉🏿 Q 38 : 48 وَ اذۡکُرۡ اِسۡمٰعِیۡلَ وَ الۡیَسَعَ وَ ذَاالۡکِفۡلِ ؕ وَ کُلٌّ مِّنَ الۡاَخۡیَارِ ﴿ؕ۴۸﴾ And remember *Ishmael,* Elisha and Dhul-Kifl, and all are among the outstanding.

[@m.hanifshaikh7151]

@Victor Onanubi accept the truth without biased mind. All languages known to almighty Allah.

[@NeoLegendX]

@Victor Onanubi so why do he rwes recite their scriptures in Hebrew You are so dumb

[@phun1901]

Abraham answered, "God himself will provide the lamb for the burnt offering my son." The lamb God provided as a substitute was his own son. Everything points to Jesus being sent to save us by his death and resurrection.

[@soujanyajade212]

Absolutely True

[@benwade7334]

True

[@bogarde]

Peter Hunt. There is no resurrection in the bible

[@benwade7334]

@@bogarde The resurrection of Christ is all over the Bible. He died and rose again for you.

[@phun1901]

​@@bogarde The only person I know who ever taught that was Deedat. I'm sorry but not only was he wrong, he knew pefectly well he was not telling the truth.

[@gaylecheung3087]

Thank you

[@MichaelWander]

It’s not often that we hear of religious scholars who are versed in the texts/ traditions of others. Thank you to both the Host and the Guest for speaking on this. I want to mention one thing said by a prominent Jewish medieval commentator, the RAMBAN: He says that Sarah sinned in some way by how she treated Hagar, and that Abraham sinned by listening to her in this situation. There is obviously a lot to unpack here relating to the half brother relationship!!

[@m.e.e2878]

Love The Showwwwwwwwww.

[@pokemond7695]

Victor Onanubi It's ishmail its Well recorded history outside ur religion.

[@m.e.e2878]

@Victor OnanubiAllah SWT said: صُمٌّۢ بُكْمٌ عُمْىٌ فَهُمْ لَا يَرْجِعُونَ "Deaf, dumb and blind - so they will not return [to the right path]." (Al-Baqara 2: Verse 18). If you have prejudice opinion against Shaykh you'll never & never learn anything becoz you're deaf and blind. And by the way you're sniffy

[@chrisgriffin4012]

He sounds like a wise man. On another note, the robe and suit jacket combo.....

[@isabelle9220]

I understood.

[@samendican2124]

Actually the desert place is not Mecca but Petra. The two hills are also in Petra

[@jonsimurung3845]

I just wanna ask you what is the 3 book before Qur'an

[@sonofmichael7561]

Sarah saw the son (Ismail) whom Hagar the Egyptian had born playing. She said to Abraham, "Cast out that slave-woman and her son, for the son of that slave shall not share the inheritance with my son Isaac." Genesis 21:9,10 (Torah)

[@abdulrahmanshiker3357]

Who wrote the Torah ?

[@9999rosebud]

@@abdulrahmanshiker3357 ask a Jewish rabbi or a Jewish scholar who wrote their book. They said that the 'Dead Sea Scrolls' which was founded in 1947 at Qumran is older than the scrolls that they have today.

[@juanitagartley937]

@@abdulrahmanshiker3357 great question

[@MsJfraser]

A key point not mentioned is Isaac was promised by God and the reason why Isaac was described as Abraham's only son. The birth of Ishmael came about because Sarah took matters into her own hands and offered her slave Hagar to bear children for them. At no point was Hagar a wife of Abraham. Historians have studied Abraham's travels and they have determined that Mecca is too far south of his known routes.

[@SyntheticVibespromo]

then why does the Bible say God protected Ishmael? Remove your bias, and let them both exist as Abrahams sons because that’s exactly what they were. There is too much at stake Jewish, and Christians for Ishmael to be the inheritor..I was raised in Christ, but if you can’t see the evils done by your own you’ll forever be blind 🙏🏽 remove your bias, and you too shall be free from man’s control my brother!

[@MsJfraser]

@@SyntheticVibespromo I'm not putting down Ishmael. But, he wasn't given the same privilege because Isaac was promised. Because of Abraham's faith, God promised that Ishmael would father a great nation, too. But, Ishmael was the product of Sarah taking matters into her own hands for Abraham to have a son. Don't worry. Despite their promises to be faithful, the Israelites failed on many occasions to live up to their promise.

[@SyntheticVibespromo]

@@MsJfraser if you believe God favors one over the other, or is it possible that’s what we’re told? If I told you God favored my son over my son out of wedlock today, and that even though my son wasn’t born in marriage that he is somehow no longer the heir the courts would have a hard time letting that slide…why wouldn’t they claim that someone who is of their descent is given the authority by God? The question you must ask yourself is what God? The true God, and not the demiurge, has no need to intervene. He doesn’t ask his people to sacrifice their children, or kill other people. It’s wrong no matter how you try to justify it. We no longer accept prophet’s, or claims of God allowing things that are strictly against its doctrine. Why do we accept it from then? Remember it’s a war not between flesh and blood but against the municipality’s that rule in heaven. We are enslaved to people we allow to have divine intervention over us 🤷🏽‍♂️ the true law of God is love.

[@MsJfraser]

@@SyntheticVibespromo You're misunderstanding a key element in that scenario: one son was through the wife taking matters into her own hands whereas the second son was through a promise. Which of these would be more important to the person who made the promise? For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Paul wrote this to the church at Galatia, "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.".

[@SyntheticVibespromo]

@@MsJfraser a promise from whom?

[@hosea444]

For everyone

[@gaylecheung3087]

You are all related, please get along ❤ yes did huge people always seem to forget about Ishmael son of Abraham

[@mayanlogos92]

So great... Huge Respect!

[@nephikaka1640]

The bible tells us... The lord said to Sarah. Be patient, for I will give you a child. And from that child, shall come forth a great nation, which I " the lord" have promised Abraham in a covernant. Sarah doubted the lord, because she was too old to bear children. So Sarah said "Abraham, take my young hand maiden Hagaar and preserve thy seed" which Abraham did, and from that... Ishmael is born. (If we stop and look at it... Sarah and Abraham, disregarded the lords promise to them.... Abraham & sarahs decision to use Haagaar to preserve Abrahams seed was their decision alone.... Not the Lords. Eventually the lord fulfilled his promise to Sarah and she bore Abrahams true heir Isaac. (1) God choose Abraham to be father of all nations, through the blessing of the Abrahamic Covernant. (2) God choose Sarah, to bear Abrahams child. Remember ...Abraham and Sarah were husband & wife. Therefore Isaac is Abrahams legitimate and only heir. This is reflected when the lord calls for Abraham to sacrifice his only son. Isaac. (legitimate son through marriage). The Lord did assure Abraham, that Ishmael, too will be a great nation, and Ismael and his seed shall be blessed in abundance in the land the lord prepares for them.

[@craigjensen1091]

AND your point would be!!! Islam is the worship of the moon God, baal!!! I hate liers!!! So does the Father in heaven!!!

[@kukrambaaz7812]

The only son means Ishmael...lol u people forgot to change that statement with d name of Prophet Ishmael pbuh

[@nephikaka1640]

@@kukrambaaz7812 and i can respect that brother.

[@craigjensen1091]

Mohammed is a false prophet, he doesn't come from the correct bloodline!!!

[@realfacts3000]

@ The Sackman. Read that chapter again. God came to Sarah after Ishmael was born and promised her a child

[@sufiahmed100]

The Brother well, explained both points of view.

[@godlytarianssharingyeshu9497]

Nice information

[@swordofallahkingoftheworld7678]

GOD ALMIGHTY says in the Holy Qur’an: (Those who say that GOD is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, have disbelieved, and the Messiah said, “O Children of IsraEL, worship GOD, my LORD and your LORD.” GOD ALMIGHTY has spoken the truth. Do they not repent to GOD and seek His forgiveness, and GOD is Forgiving, Most MERCIFUL. This is how GOD ALMIGHTY guides them, may GOD have mercy on them, may GOD reward you with good Sheikh. Oh GOD ALMIGHTY , protect us the blessing of Islam and have mercy on us, O MOST MERCIFUL of The Merciful. Message to the wrongdoer and not the true .

[@biblefanatic2902]

The truth is that the prophecy on Ishmael is fulfilled in today's life

[@modernsoccer1860]

So we are all brothers, Christians, Muslims, Whites, Blacks. Can we stop fighting amongst ourselves and show more love

[@musarrataranur2625]

Is there the name"Ishmail" I the quran captre 14?

[@AdAstra86]

Its ismael... the original name.

[@raffaeldelavega2459]

@@AdAstra86 EL in hebrew and IL in arabic..... Both meaning is god.....

[@p.kkhanyile9866]

Genesis 17: 4: As for Me, Behold, My Convenant is with you, and you shall be a father of many nations. 5: No longer shall your name be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham ;for I have made you a father of many nations. 6: I will make you exceedingly fruitful; and I will make nations of you, and Kings shall come from you. This was a will of YAHWEH for Abraham to have Ishmael as a son and send him back to his own people as he was from out of wedlock to increase his descendant through all generation. That's unite Islamic and Christian as they all share same father. Father Abraham of many son's. Through faith...

[@eyeballwarrior3745]

No sir, you forgot to mention Galatians 4:28-31 Where it reminds followers of Christ about the covenant the most High made through Isaac and NOT WITH ISMAEL And those who put their faith in Christ alone will be of Isaac's covenant. That closes ANY claim for the existence of Islam after the Bible's final book And considering Surah 5, Ayat 46-47, Surah 10, Ayat 94... That ends any other "debate" for that matter

[@alfredluka9278]

Christians have no related to Abraham , only Je2s and Arabs judai and Islam

[@Jsnipes98]

@Farhan torah was written before Quran, when was it changed to fit jews narrative?

[@isaacbuluma]

@@Jsnipes98 yes and for what benefits would it be to then at that time. No Christians and Muslims. If Abraham resurrects now and finds people arguing on who he was to sucrifice they will be shocked

[@nazoordeenmohammedmujeebud466]

Assalamu Alaikkum Sheik! Could you pls give me the biblical proof for the same sam, Jazakallahu Hairan.

[@RemnantRendezvous]

This should be interesting. Very difficult to compare Ishmael in the Quran and the Bible because Ishmael’s story isn’t really told in the small handful of verses about him in the Quran. The Quran actually points you to the Bible to read the story of Ishmael and you have to if you want to know who he was. Ishmael is only mentioned in 12 verses in the Quran compared to whole chapters in the Bible. If you want to know about Ishmael, you have to read the Bible!

[@nottinghamislam]

Qur'an and Hadith go hand in hand. Hadith expounds on these stories of the prophets mentioned in Qur'an. Ishmael's story is further explained in Hadith.

[@RemnantRendezvous]

Nottingham Islam yes, but then this shouldn’t be called Ishmael in the Quran but in the Hadith. And then that opens up so many questions about which Hadith are sahih. What is inaccurate about the Biblical story of Ishmael and where is this contradicted in the Quran and a indisputable Hadith? Nowhere that I know of, so we must accept the Biblical account as authentic and all we have. The Quran encourages us to read the scriptures that went before. We Muslims are commanded to do so in sura 4:136

[@spillbloodortruthonly]

U sure the bible account is authentic? Last I check, there were revision upon revision.. Watever works for our Christian cousins (I am not one to say anything against it) .. Its by Christians for Christians anyway.. Just saying that ur statement is not accurate to say that Muslims are told to refer to the bible as we understood it (the Bible book) as reference for 100% authenticity. These are stories and traditions.. We use quran as our yardstick so if the stories from tradition matched or bears resemblance, we can say its highly likely possible.. Either way its just stories..and some contain valuable lessons in it to teach us.

[@tazboy1934]

@@RemnantRendezvous nope the quran and hadith is enough for us...the prophet (saw) did not showed sign of dissatisfied wen al khattab(ra)brought the taurah....also the deen is completed with Muhammad (saw)...

[@RemnantRendezvous]

Muhammad AL-Imran Yes, I am sure the Bible is authentic. We have copies from before the time of Muhammed pbuh that are exactly what Muhammed was encouraged to read, sura 10:94. The Quran nowhere says the Bible was changed, only that the Jews and Christians changed their interpretation of it by twisting its words. Whoever teaches you that the Bible was changed is leading you off the straight path of Islam.

[@thomasmomanyi285]

Unfortunate not most of us understand and respect their believes like this man of God.

[@amirlal3386]

In the Bible it says God was with Ishmael In the wilderness it also says he lived 1,000+ years and gave up the ghost(Holy Spirit)