David in the Bible & Quran | Dr. Shabir Ally

[@inayatabbas4096]

I just want to REMIND onething: in bible they mention david as an adulterer(who seduced #batsheba who already was married to his military general and had illegal child who died after 7 days ) nauzubillah. Beware of that. Islamic prophet dawood can never commit such a sin. Prophets are masoomeen. This is the difference between TRUTH AND LIES!

[@jewishwhitetiger]

In Jewish law when a man goes to war he gives his wife a (GET) In Judaism it is a temporary Divorce as if wife doesn't get one she will not be allowed to marry unless they can find the body of her husband! So a temporary divorce she has till his comes bk! So on this basis she was temporary not married! King David was then with a women who was not married! He sinned ethical not technical!

[@suppaman12]

You know the story of the Bible is the correct one right? He did infact do what you said. He was an adulterer. Old Mo conveniently forgot to put that in his book… I wonder what old Mo would have against the taking of someone else’s wife 😂

[@kaycarter1540]

​@@jewishwhitetigerthe Quranic version says very little about David. Thus much of the islamic description comes from ahadith and tafseer. These two things were recorded by the Ulama the ulama were not contemporaries to mohammed never mind David or any of the prophets, so what were their sources ? did Angel Jibril also visit them ? Wouldnt that make them prophets too ? There is nothing pre-islamic that supports their version of events. Surely besides books, oral traditions would give a hint of this alternative David but they dont. One can only conclude it is not the same David or their version is simply made up. Now let us look at the Quranic David. A little of his story features in sura al baqarah. Within a few lines Saul is made king to go to a holy war, Goliath is killed in battle and immediately after David becomes king. Several different stories from different books of the Tanakh are compressed and conflated in this sura including Saul becoming 'Gideon'. The quran does not know the name of the prophet who anointed Saul [talut means tall] david is in the army (which according to halacha would not be permitted due to his age). There is no mention of how or why David defeating Goliath was remarkable. Another problem is that the Quran acknowledges the Zubr (tehillim) and David's authorship or that it was revealed to him. If it was a revelation what was it's purpose where is that Zubr now as islam claims that the Zubr we have now is not the same one. Is there any evidence of anyone being guided by the zubr or was it meant only for David? Here are the problems with these narratives and the problems are manifold . One of the few lines taken from the Miqra that appears in the Quran is from the Zubr, word for word. This points to the Tehillim being the same as we have it today. The one we have today is not a revelation but rather recitals of words of praise and wisdom from mainly David. 'the righteous shall inherit the earth' So when the Quran challenges anyone to write an ayat like it, here is one that was penned by a man and copied in to the Quran. It questions the supposed divine authorship. On this preposterous idea that prophets were perfect, they were men with much virtue restrsaint and morals but not flawless. Was David even a prophet ? Ironically if we look at all the prophets in islam the only one who trangressed and with a long list of misdemeanours greater than the aggregate of all the errors of all the biblical prophets is Mohammed. But somehow Mohammed was somehow excused or justified in all his wrongs and errors.

[@july3348]

​@@suppaman12, it's because Old Momo would put himself in hot waters had he recounted David's sins. Old Momo did the nasty things that King David committed, but 10x worse, and he is supposed to be the perfect man. King David harshly faced the consequences of his sin. This is nowhere to be found in the Quran since portraying David in a bad like would be akin to Creepy Old Momo sabotaging himself.

[@GeoffreyBarongo-xx9yy]

In the koran king David was not an adulterer becoz Mohamed did the same things

[@johnmartinm4232]

I read Bible and found king David is a awesome prophet, he prophesied many things about Jesus. King David is awesome. I love his Psalm this gives me hope everytime I read. What a humble king he is. He is a all rounder 🎉

[@feliperowen2370]

instablaster.

[@syedmarwan8069]

Prophesied too About Prophet Muhammad (SM)

[@alishanziro6011]

@@syedmarwan8069 lol not even once

[@mosespsalm_1108]

@@syedmarwan8069 not even a word from David about him

[@stevensj6527]

@@syedmarwan8069 Are you on drugs bro

[@phun1901]

Peter calls David a prophet in Acts 2:30 "But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne." However while David was king God often spoke to him through other prophets. Such as Gad and Nathan. The balance of power was that kings ruled the people, and were Gods chosen representative. But God often spoke to the king through his prophets, not directly. One occasion was 2 Samuel 12, where Nathan asked David to judge between two men, a rich man who took the only ewe from a poor man. When David condemned the greedy man, Nathan revealed that is was David who was the rich man who stole the wife of Uriah. David immediately repented. This is a very clear parallel to the story in the Quran about David judging two men about a stolen sheep, and then he immediately repents.

[@NeoLegendX]

Except David never stole a woman or ordered a mured on that man

[@phun1901]

@@NeoLegendX Do you think it is sensible to study the Quran without examining the literature, the stories, the historical context into which it was introduced and aspires to interact with?

[@Scorpionking_2024]

NeoLegendX Prove it , don’t just say it

[@Scorpionking_2024]

Peter Hunt let @neo prove his claim

[@Nderitu.G]

Do you really believe that the Koran is Truth or Just Plagiarized Nonsense. I think it is plagiarized nonsense

[@1974jrod]

The reason why David was aman after Gods own heart was because David knew God was merciful in forgiving David's heinous trespass for which he repented.

[@NeoLegendX]

The story doesn't say indicate what you say He had enough time to do that after He got caught

[@phun1901]

@Rafael Mohammad stole his own adopted sons wife after he saw her uncovered, and Zaynabs divorce was not lawful in Gods sight, so Mohammad taking her was actually adultery. Sin us intractable to the human heart. The theory of isma was an innovation that Mohammad didn't teach. The idea prophets were sent primarily as moral examples isnt accurate either.

[@8bambino]

@@NeoLegendX there is a story where you learn everything about David its called the bible . Its really the only place where you can read about his real story and only story

[@NeoLegendX]

@@8bambino The bible is way too altered to be taken seriously. You people say take it in faith. Great. I take it on faith that it's an absurd collection of stories.

[@maliksohailafzal5681]

@@phun1901 his adopted son was actually a former slave, so to raise status of slaves prophet asked his cousin if she would marry a former slave. she agreed, but zaid was actually unable to come to the level of parity with zaynab, which led to months of separation, couple kept avoiding the inevitable to not disobey God messenger, however, Allah sent revelation in quran and annuled the marriage explicitly, inspired Muhammad to take her as wife, as no one would take her after being married to a slave

[@daveymc172]

I am David, this voice of this gentleman should be echoed around the world, a true scholar and voice of the very mountains and birds that he preaches

[@brezbrez7845]

At 4:54 Dr Ally is somewhat hasty in saying that seeing that David ‘is the composer of Psalms’ and ‘seeing that he is the author of sacred scripture’ . That’s quite sacrilegious! That he was the primary recipient/ vassal of divine scripture to be written down and distributed to all would be the actual truth.

[@S0L12D3]

He answers the questions in an honest way. He only says what he knows to be true and also acknowledges when he does not entirely know the truth.

[@MrCasco0o]

Thank you, Dr. Ally. 🙏

[@RanjitSingh-lm6co]

Is ka matlab hai, Shabir Bhai, aap ne Zaboor ki kitaben dhyaan se nahi padhin. Muslan in Zaboor Nr. 2:12 David writes, " Kiss the SON, lesthe be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they who put their trust in him." But @llah speaks against this prophesy. Then again, Zaboor 22, verse 1 & 16 (especially about Jesus Christ on the Cross, which @llah omits). And Ps. 41:9, which speaks about Judah Iscariot. And Ps. 46, verses 6 & 7. Then Ps. 69, verse 21 (which Jesus Christ spoke on the cross where he died.) And Ps. 110:1. A prophesy about Jesus Christ. Then Ps. 118:26. Dear Brother Shabir, I hope you will read the above, with an open mind though they may go against what you have learned from koran and hadiths. All the above are the prophesies about Jehovah's appearance in Jesus Christ. Jai Hind.

[@yeahbuddy4712]

Acts 2 29.to 30 tells us David was a prophetFellow Israelites, I can tell you confidently that the patriarch David died and was buried, and his tomb is here to this day. 30 But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne.

[@fidelcatsro6948]

Takbeer!!

[@NeoLegendX]

Solomon never had a problem with this story 🤔

[@raffagino8366]

The bible also states that David is a prophet, here are the verses that prove it: Acts 2:29-30 29 “Fellow Israelites, I can tell you confidently that the patriarch David died and was buried, and his tomb is here to this day. 30 But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne. السلام عليكم

[@HamzaAli-fp5gb]

فَهَزَمُوهُم بِإِذْنِ ٱللَّهِ وَقَتَلَ دَاوُۥدُ جَالُوتَ وَءَاتَىٰهُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلْمُلْكَ وَٱلْحِكْمَةَ وَعَلَّمَهُۥ مِمَّا يَشَآءُ ۗ وَلَوْلَا دَفْعُ ٱللَّهِ ٱلنَّاسَ بَعْضَهُم بِبَعْضٍۢ لَّفَسَدَتِ ٱلْأَرْضُ وَلَٰكِنَّ ٱللَّهَ ذُو فَضْلٍ عَلَى ٱلْعَٰلَمِين

[@VSP4591]

Interesting video. I have a question, why Saul, the first king of the Jews, was not considered a profet in Quran??? Regarding David it is said he had hundreds of wives and concubines. As I know, Islam limited the number to 4 wives. Has this any link to David and Solomon practice with maybe thousand of wives and concubines???

[@diinomaaxi]

The 4 wives rules started after prophet Muhammad may peace be upon him and is for the regular folks the prophets can have as many wives as they can take care of

[@tiyowprasetyo]

00:10 - 00:22 Dr. Shabir Ally forget the rest of the verse? I thought he's a hafidz or at least all Islamic preachers should memorize the Quran (which called a hafidz). Never mind, that thought was wrong confirmed by this video.

[@Yameen200]

Ive always thought that prophets were high moral examples that could do wrongs that didnt do any major harm. It wouldnt be in their nature to possess any or much of the seven deadly sins.

[@phun1901]

The seven deadly sins are not biblical and I don't think they are an Islamic concept either. If Adam didn't do a major why was he banished from heaven? Didn't Moses kill an Egyptian man and then have to repent of it? Is that not major harm?

[@Yameen200]

@@phun1901 Whether its islamic, biblical, greek or aboriginal is irrelevant. The seven deadly sins represent the major excesses of poor character and ethics. Regarding the Moses issue, this is said to be an accident not that he planned on murdering the man Regarding the Adam issue, your question assumes original sin, this is a doctrine that is neither islamic or logical. Either way the reasoning behind his banishment is already explained in the quran, to educate him and prepare him for the earthly life

[@alhassangangu4357]

Peter Hunt In Islam, intention plays a prominent role. Moses wasn’t intending to kill the man, that was the reason why he was forgiven. God already told the angels that He was going to create a viceroy on earth. Adam was bound to come to the earth whether he ate the fruit or not. But he had to toil for his sustenance as a punishment.

[@yeahbuddy4712]

@@alhassangangu4357 well said.

[@ADeeSHUPA]

@@alhassangangu4357 uP

[@jahangeerbhat1581]

Hadhrat Ali (rta) is reported to have been said; “Whoever says that David, has married Uriah’s wife as the legends are narrate, I will punish him twice: one for qazf (falsely accusing someone of adultery) and the other for desecrating the prophethood (defamation of prophet David)” Source: Tafsir al-Kabir, al-Razi, vol. 26, p. 379; Ruh al-Ma’ani, vol. 12, p. 178; Tafsir al-Muraghi, vol. 23, p. 111

[@RanjitSingh-lm6co]

Shabir Bhai, aap ne Bible bhi vistaar se padhi hai, to phir aap, tab bhi koran ke jhooth freb ko tarjeeh dete hain. Main hairaan hun yeh soch kar. Jai Hind, Jai Bharat.

[@قبيلةخيرانالعربيةالمغربية]

you know that the Qur’an mentioned the first miracle of Christ, which is that he spoke it when he was a baby, and this is not found in the Bible, so how did Qur’an know about this?

[@ubahmohyadin8867]

Good question, the Koran is the last book of the Bible and the Torah. We all worship same God my friend. 🥰

[@mathiasbartl903]

The Bible only included the 4 retellings of Jesus live that were decided upon as to be the most reliable, there are however many others that existed and are still exant.

[@قبيلةخيرانالعربيةالمغربية]

@@mathiasbartl903 You are Muslim ??

[@S0L12D3]

It’s a very simple answer. The original Bible is lost, and the chapters that remain have also been changed over time

[@Elijah.19]

It's a story found in the gospel of Thomas. The story must have been floating around for the writers to add to the Quran. Bruh Mecca and Medina had lots of Jews and Midrashic stories floated around along with the teachings of Nestorian Christians. The lavent was full of historical stories and what you call revelation was stories that were already circulated.

[@arulmozhivarman4967]

So you’re refuting the part of how David was shun upon by prophet Nathan

[@DolfoLicks]

The bible actually calls David a prophet and a choosen one by Jaweh.

[@Spillers72]

David predicted the coming of Christ in Psalms so in the literal sense, he is a prophet.

[@robinsongeorge6785]

When David made the mistake with Bethsheeba, God punished him and also their child died. Even prophet Nathan came to David and told him a parable which is in Bible. But according to quran, Nathans parable story was totally hided. Reason is to make mistakes of having others wives.

[@abdillahibasheabdi4904]

Not hidden but recorrected becuase prophets of God do not commit grave things like that.

[@_Be_Still]

4:20 I wish I could hear what he said here. 7 years? or 70 or so?

[@suppaman12]

Seven

[@viktoriya260589]

David, King if Israel

[@tierra8161]

David was mentioned inthe Quran as a musician who made instruments from the materials of the earth including the Harp. He wrote Psalm ..QUran mentions David in this context as well...and that Quran should be sung methodically with melody

[@sumomaster9144]

Not a musician, but there is mention of god blessing him with voice was so nice that all creatures even mountains, birds, animals..etc would stop by to listen to him when he was praying and would pray with him. It was so nice that some would die of hunger before stopping listening to that voice.

[@sumomaster9144]

Oh and as for what he could make, he was a blacksmith. Another blessing from god to him was full control over iron. He could literally control it as if it was clay. He made armors for soldiers for living.

[@nunesalbizz5239]

In the Quran Davids adultery it's not mentioned because Muhammad wanted to do the same, he took his adopted sons wife Zaynab😯😳😳

[@dawwww]

Exactly! Muhammed wanted to be like David. David confessed his sins and received salvation. Muhammed has no idea what confession is. 😂

[@Naimedclaiming]

He never wanted to marry her God decreeded that he would and he had no choice

[@Xxxwwwwww]

1 Our Prophet Muhammad (scw) married a divorcee 2 Adoption is illegal in Islam 3 Are you projecting your insecurities on to us

[@8bambino]

David was not a Prophet , if we try to fit in with the real description of the bible . David was a great king , the reason why David was Given scriptures its because David was one of the Kings that God loved a lot . He was faithful to God even when he committed sin and since God is forgiving God forgive him and punish him also .

[@NeoLegendX]

Even though the bible explicitly says that he is. We have no time for idiots, go away.

[@8bambino]

@@NeoLegendX Okay I hate it when someone just make a claim but cant back it up . Show me one christian or one verse of the bible saying David is a prophet . Second one you called the bible and absurd collection of stories that are first of all in some parts of the Quran . They can be attested with archeological proofs , they tell every detail in chronological order so you can follow and understand the book to understand how God’s works with his people and with all people . Now let me tell you what an absurd book is . An absurd book will give you no details , wich will raise you questions about a lot of topics , An absurd book will confuse you with having no chronological order . An absurd book will make claims without the possibility to back it up . An absurdd book will tell you beleive what i say because i say so , dont question me , just blindly beleive me . And now try to prove me Quran dont fit in any of the definitions I gave you of an Absurd book . The bible is the work of God throught out history dont ever disrespect what God did for his people and still do up to this date .

[@NeoLegendX]

@@8bambino Acts 2:29-31 And the rest I'm not gonna read because it would be a back and forth with a moron. Even in Israel lore he is a prophet. Go educate yourself. The bible is nonsense. That's why the priests never let out publicly.

[@8bambino]

@@NeoLegendX Thank you you were right , I was wrong but it again just still proves the bible is a book of divine revelation

[@NeoLegendX]

@@8bambino its a book of nonsense mostly. Period, end of story.

[@quisarfarhan9433]

Please make a video for public interest on the issue of COVID-19 outbreak

[@MrCasco0o]

There are like three Covid 19 videos on this channel.

[@quisarfarhan9433]

I didn't check that, thank you

[@masood6096]

Off topic : I Hope he reconsider his views on Sahih Hadiths

[@masood6096]

Marc Carran Hadiths are like Commentary, Explanation and give more details about what mentioned in the Quran

[@masood6096]

Rafael Quran Says Offer Prayers, It doesn’t say How, Hadiths say how to pray and How many rakaths for a prayer and all If You remove Hadiths, You can’t even pray properly

[@milliyetci5672]

​@Rafael not 200 years, Hadith came 350 years later... Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) forbid to write any kind of hadith at his time bec he feared people'll use hadith in the name of Quran and don't follow the actual Quran.... This things come true in modern day.. Some People more interest in hadith than the holy Quran, the word of God... Even some people created fake hadith for their personal gain...

[@milliyetci5672]

@@masood6096 1) this is an poor example.... Hadith lovers always says this example to justify their claim... Muslim offers Prayers everyday 5 times, started during the time of the Prophet (pbuh)... do you really think they started praying after 350 years later when hadith were written??? They could be forget their own names but never forget how to pray Salah... there's thousands of fake Hadith in the hadith book which contradict with Quran.. some people created those fake hadith bec of their personal gain.... 2) read ''Tafsir of Quran'' if you want the Commentary and Explanation of Quran verse....

[@masood6096]

꧁Райан замановиц꧂ Tafseer’s came even much later , So why are you following that ?? And Main part of Tafseer is Hadiths so why are you referring to tafseers if you’re not following hadiths ??? So you pray by following your ancestors right ?? One of the important message of Qur’an is Don’t follow your ancestors blindly If you face a problem in salah like Kunooth and other things What source will you refer to solve the problem ?? Scholars have sacrificed their lifetime to get the hadiths with Full narrator list and you’re just here commenting it’s all waste ?! 😪 They have a way of Filtering the weak hadiths by looking at the narrators list and their biography...

[@ezesolomon3996]

Why are all the stories about David in the bible not in the Quran? Why the differences between the bible and Quran

[@robinsongeorge6785]

That's because you will come to know the truth that Jesus Christ is the Lord. From Boaz only the root is coming through David and Christ... David, Jeramiah, Daniel, Zechariah........all of them predicted that Jesus Christ is the Lord and not a prophet.

[@dawwww]

Because Muhammed copied the content of the Bible. 😅

[@Naimedclaiming]

@@dawwwwwhy would he copy a book of satan? 😂

[@Danishkddk]

Bible says he is an adulterer And the Quran says he is a prophet That's the difference

[@Xxxwwwwww]

Because it was unnecessary for the Islamic faith

[@ashleyj97]

Acts 2:30 calls David AS a Prophet

[@rooseveltrobinson1164]

Sound like a cut and paste ministry.

[@neldasamillanomiranda5483]

JESUS CHRIST rebuke you for misleading People from the truth.

[@jacstvofficial4490]

Amen! Amen! And amen!

[@timkhan3238]

When will Shabir Ally going to have a long chat with Christian Prince?

[@farhadhoassain7855]

❤

[@anwarbukhari6178]

Wisdom

[@crisyoung4912]

I don't understand and I'm yet to have someone to explain but I thought God loved the word so much that he sacrificed jesus for human sins so humanity would love and find their way to God. I don't think of jesus as dying for our sins but that it was the will to the father.

[@ChekMaFresh]

I could never understand this concept, so I don’t believe it at all. If God is supreme and fair and just, why would He require that an innocent righteous man die to save evil people? Isn’t He powerful enough to just forgive them if He wanted to? Or at least require that one of the evil people die? Also, if Jesus was to die for everyone, why would he pray to God to save him in the garden of Gethsemane? And why would he say that God had forsaken him on the cross? That doesn’t make sense to me. How could God love an evil world and hate a righteous man who taught people to love God? Sorry, but I don’t believe that story at all!

[@zahinelahi2655]

@@ChekMaFresh christianity gives me an impression that the father is cruel,unforgiving, uncompromising and unreasonable while the son is merciful,loving, sacrificing and forgiving almost as if a counter balance. It doesnt make sense at all.

[@daniyalvirk6302]

@@ChekMaFresh In islam that is not the case. Jesus didn’t die for anyone’s sins

[@highercalling3285]

@@ChekMaFresh in Islam we don't believe God sacrificed Jesus. The people plotted to kill him so God raised him up to Him. And another man was taken in his place. God is merciful and strong. I'm Muslim but I read both Quran and the Bible.

[@savagejr245]

Didn't she have child wit David and th lord kill David first child for her husband and give them somalomond