The Secret Spy Suitcase Mystery | Tales From the Bottle

'Tales From the Bottle' goes undercover into the covert world of intelligence and counter-intelligence, and discusses the death of codebreaker Garreth Williams.
"Gareth Williams (26 September 1978 - c. 16 August 2010) was a Welsh mathematician and employee of GCHQ seconded to the Secret Intelligence Service (SIS or MI6) who was found dead in suspicious circumstances at a Security Service safe house flat in Pimlico, London, on 23 August 2010. The inquest found that his death was "unnatural and likely to have been criminally mediated." A subsequent Metropolitan Police re-investigation concluded that Williams's death was "probably an accident". It is also suspected that he should be numbered amongst those who have been killed by Russian assassins on British soil. Two senior British police sources have said some of Williams's work was focused on Russia - and one confirmed reports that he had been helping the NSA trace international money-laundering routes that are used by organised crime groups including Moscow-based mafia cells."
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[@Jasongreen357]

Seems obvious to me. Russian spy goes to his home to kill him. While sneaking in, finds the man attempting to lock himself in a bag. Zip.... Click... "we'll that was easier than I expected"

[@Qxir]

Lmao hahahaha

[@mr.skwiggl3tattooist303]

Lmao gold

[@hecdudeh2o969]

hahahaha

[@alcabone1126]

Mmmmmmmmm maybe, yep definetly

[@LordZoth6292]

FJGaming 80 Gloves and a bald, shaven man.

[@Bensworth]

The names Bondage, James Bondage

[@cowboynick6843]

I-

[@spiritualbeetle3904]

You-

[@AtlanticaVI]

They-

[@robisfantasticutube]

The Sun - "Hire this man!"

[@anonomuse9094]

Dude, maybe he hired a hooker to put him in the bag, and the hooker was wearing gloves and took off with the money without letting him out.

[@Ypog_UA]

"Locked himself in a bag fetish" has the same ring to it as "Shot himself in the back of the head three times fetish"

[@boldCactuslad]

Ah yes, the ol' Epstein special. Reminds me of that time that mobster removed his own spine. Yeah, we chocked that one up to natural causes. Can't live without a spinal cord. Or that hiker who committed suicide, removed his own head, and then moved his own head miles away from his body on top of some rocks where it wasn't found for months. Hah, Gary always was a kidder.

[@walker9192]

Really long message here

[@itisjustacomment]

@@walker9192 ?

[@KevinJohnson-yp6nr]

Just like the guy who was found decapitated after the Princess Diana accident and his death was ruled a suicide.

[@itisjustacomment]

@@KevinJohnson-yp6nr How was he connected to Diana? Head guard? Head housekeeper? Or was he just 'heading' to her for a meeting? But seriously how?

[@Dancingonthesun]

I've heard that murders committed by the intelligence services are often made to look like sexual misadventures rather than suicides, the embarrassment usually puts the family into hush hush mode. I think they just got too creative with this one.

[@emlix1]

Meh... I hear what you're saying, but I just don't think they're that bright.

[@J3diMindTrix]

A+ here

[@J3diMindTrix]

Ok anyone who seriously considers option 1 needs to get a psych eval and pronto. You dummy. Let's just go over the facts shall we, and these are the ones we *know*, and this is MI6 we're talking about here so you know, literally their job is to cover up evidence Number 1) at the time of his death he was looking into Russian mafia business 2) the Russian mafia is heavily linked to the KGB 3) Admitting he knew the identity of the Russian spy is the only motive for murder in this entire affair 3) IF he got into the bag, how did he completely clean his whole flat of all DNA and fingerprints from inside the bag? Come on 4) If experts couldn't do it 400 times, and he couldn't untie himself from his bed, how did he do it? 5) A favoured assassination method of intelligence agencies is apparent suicide. Especially related to kinky sexual type stuff. Embarrasses the family into silence and creates a plausible alibi. 6) True fact, well done qxir untraceable poisons through the ear (leaving no needle marks) are another favoured pro murder method 7) What qxir didn't mention is that the heating in the flat was turned up to max even though it was the middle of summer. This would cause faster decomposition and make determining cause of death harder. Also, why, for what possible reason would Gareth do that? If he did, did he then wipe the thermostat clean of his own fingerprints? Why? Yes, exactly. 8) A computer genius left BDSM content on his laptop just for anyone to find? In general this absolutely reeks of covert ops elimination, and cover up. The killers knew how to professionally cover their tracks. The questions about why leave clues as to it being a murder when they could've made it look more like a suicide, are answered in the video. It's just to cause confusion and leave red herrings to befuddle the police and stop them looking, by leaving a plausible secondary scenario. It would have been very easy for any intruders to plant the women's clothing and access the websites on the laptop to create a cover story. I'm doing this for Gareth's family, to stop anyone being silly and dim enough to fall for the suicide angle. It's not a nice fate, for your son to die and dimwits be led to believe he took his own life when anyone with half a brain or even cursory knowledge of international espionage slightly above 'James Bond' level can see that this is a blatant cover up. The level of professionalism leaves only two possibilities, either the KGB or even MI6 though a Russian connection is more likely. I only mention MI6 as the fact it took coworkers several days to notice his absence from work and report it is HIGHLY suspect. If an intelligence operative misses even ONE DAY of work or even are 2 hours late they are immediately contacted and found as there is a possibility foreign adversaries have abducted or compromised your agent. Therefore there is a slight possibility MI6 either knew about the death and covered it up, possibly after having been informed by the Russians themselves and seeking to avoid an investigation, or for some reason did it themselves to stop Gareth revealing the identity of the known Russian spy in their ranks which would have been highly sensitive and privileged information they wouldn't want getting out. Him even revealing that, though I suspect it was a spur-of-the-moment, lapse of judgment situation when faced with assassins and wanting some kind of reason for them not to kill him, was very unfortunate as he would have known to never do that. Agencies will value that intel over your life. RIP Gareth.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

@@J3diMindTrix Great post!

[@zaeyact]

@@J3diMindTrix smart

[@Nog311]

You failed to mention that ALL his electronic devices were wiped and factory reset. They were found on the coffee table, lined up, with the SIMS and Batteries out.

[@revenevan11]

Of course they were... 🙄 but yet he didn't wipe the laptop with his search history lol (To be clear, I believe your fact and also understand that he wasn't the one who wiped his devices, I'm just sarcastically poking fun at how over the top this assassination coverup job was. Bit of an inconsistent detail to leave the only unwiped computer with the browser history not even cleared, in order to obviously stage the fetish red herring to distract the detectives... but then wipe absolutely every other electronic!)

[@pingasbungus4517]

Must have been a "factory reset and take your SIM and battery out" fetish

[@revenevan11]

@@pingasbungus4517 lmao

[@bertiesaurus]

Tbf if I were to kms I would do that

[@henrik1743]

This whole thing screams russia.. also if he was investigating russian mobsters Russian mobsters = FSB = Putin = Total schizo psycho

[@beefymcskillet5601]

Can we all thank Vladimir Putin for giving the demonstration on how hard it is to get into a bag

[@ilynpayne7491]

Holy shit I thought I saw him then your comment proves it is him

[@Alex632]

@@ilynpayne7491 at what point is Putin in the video?

[@buttmunch397]

@@Alex632 3:53

[@dannygroom3327]

@@Alex632 did you not watch the video?

[@R̨̧̮̭-c3e]

At first I thought what does this comment mean? Then I realized that Putin was tryna lock himself in a bag.

[@FMHikari]

"other plausible theories" Simple, the bag is a *mimic* .

[@skelly5887]

Me: "Hey guys I found a chest over here!" My Party: "No, no, no, no, not again!"

[@jamesfinch9987]

@@skelly5887 ah shit here we go again

[@Cushla-np4pt]

nah they turn into skeletons instantly

[@qwertty5939]

Too bad the loot sucks

[@boarbark]

this, definately this

[@jaynasti803]

They looked at his browser history....a fate worse than death. Lmfao

[@Street-cj6cv]

Best quote!

[@cragerzz]

How much would you need to be paid to have your entire lives browser history from any and all devices you own and have owned be printed for everyone to see?? 😬😬😬😬

[@OrigenalDarkMew]

Hide that furry porn

[@sebastianschmidt566]

We need a device that at the time your heart stops deletes your browser history 😂

[@joshman35]

@@cragerzz I would do anything to stop it

[@philip2.2.12]

The fact that there are absolutely no prints makes me think it was someone who knew what they were doing

[@J3diMindTrix]

Of course. Elite level assassination. Case closed come on people

[@J3diMindTrix]

Ok anyone who seriously considers option 1 needs to get a psych eval and pronto. You dummy. Let's just go over the facts shall we, and these are the ones we *know*, and this is MI6 we're talking about here so you know, literally their job is to cover up evidence Number 1) at the time of his death he was looking into Russian mafia business 2) the Russian mafia is heavily linked to the KGB 3) Admitting he knew the identity of the Russian spy is the only motive for murder in this entire affair 3) IF he got into the bag, how did he completely clean his whole flat of all DNA and fingerprints from inside the bag? Come on 4) If experts couldn't do it 400 times, and he couldn't untie himself from his bed, how did he do it? 5) A favoured assassination method of intelligence agencies is apparent suicide. Especially related to kinky sexual type stuff. Embarrasses the family into silence and creates a plausible alibi. 6) True fact, well done qxir untraceable poisons through the ear (leaving no needle marks) are another favoured pro murder method 7) What qxir didn't mention is that the heating in the flat was turned up to max even though it was the middle of summer. This would cause faster decomposition and make determining cause of death harder. Also, why, for what possible reason would Gareth do that? If he did, did he then wipe the thermostat clean of his own fingerprints? Why? Yes, exactly. 8) A computer genius left BDSM content on his laptop just for anyone to find? In general this absolutely reeks of covert ops elimination, and cover up. The killers knew how to professionally cover their tracks. The questions about why leave clues as to it being a murder when they could've made it look more like a suicide, are answered in the video. It's just to cause confusion and leave red herrings to befuddle the police and stop them looking, by leaving a plausible secondary scenario. It would have been very easy for any intruders to plant the women's clothing and access the websites on the laptop to create a cover story. I'm doing this for Gareth's family, to stop anyone being silly and dim enough to fall for the suicide angle. It's not a nice fate, for your son to die and dimwits be led to believe he took his own life when anyone with half a brain or even cursory knowledge of international espionage slightly above 'James Bond' level can see that this is a blatant cover up. The level of professionalism leaves only two possibilities, either the KGB or even MI6 though a Russian connection is more likely. I only mention MI6 as the fact it took coworkers several days to notice his absence from work and report it is HIGHLY suspect. If an intelligence operative misses even ONE DAY of work or even are 2 hours late they are immediately contacted and found as there is a possibility foreign adversaries have abducted or compromised your agent. Therefore there is a slight possibility MI6 either knew about the death and covered it up, possibly after having been informed by the Russians themselves and seeking to avoid an investigation, or for some reason did it themselves to stop Gareth revealing the identity of the known Russian spy in their ranks which would have been highly sensitive and privileged information they wouldn't want getting out. Him even revealing that, though I suspect it was a spur-of-the-moment, lapse of judgment situation when faced with assassins and wanting some kind of reason for them not to kill him, was very unfortunate as he would have known to never do that. Agencies will value that intel over your life. RIP Gareth.

[@leisti]

@@J3diMindTrix It was a sports bag, not a case.

[@Reggie-The-Dog]

Thanks Captain Obvious

[@philip2.2.12]

@@Reggie-The-Dog no worries Lt. Slow

[@ImranZakhaev9]

I heard this story on a podcast, and I'm surprised you never mentioned that the temperature in the room was turned waaayyy up which sped up the decomposition (and likely the death as well)

[@Keter001]

Yes, it seems everything in this video was taken from wikipedia with no other researcb

[@morsecodereviews1553]

Maybe just maybe the whole thing was an elaborate setup. They knew the browser history would be checked, hence the bag porn and suicide is too cliche. Anyone that knew him well enough would deny vehemently. Thus raising questions. The bag porn angle is just crazy enough to work.

[@turtlemapping5781]

Morse Code Reviews I thought the same tbh

[@kos2919]

Morse Code Reviews pretty much. They probably already spying that poor sod for a long time and found out about his tied up incident and decided to use that to frame him as some kind of a deviant.

[@UnwovenSleeve]

Exactly. People can tell their friends mental health, but nobody shares their porn fetishes lmao. The tying to the bed seems like it was a test, why would he tie himself to the bed without being naked, or without having a partner or something there. Also how the fuck do you lock a bag from inside of it, seems like foul play and suffocation.

[@rocketsauce420]

And its too perfect, finding a spy who has ties to dangerous people obviously didn’t die from a fetish

[@morsecodereviews1553]

@@rocketsauce420 If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, must be foul play...

[@carlbrown1000]

I think the fetish one is more likely and hilarious.

[@marblewolf4522]

Carl Brown Poor guy

[@dirkjohannesvanderbank9824]

Carl Brown not really though think of it this way.. no way to get in bag by self... evidence could have been planted easilly in browser.. and the womans clother in the room too.. to make it seem that way

[@OrientalXLIVth]

Dirk Johannes Van Der Bank *MIND GAMES*

[@kasperi448]

Dirk Johannes Van Der Bank there could have been somebody else with him and if there were two keys it would explain how it was locked and if the idea was that the other person left for some amount of time came back noticed that he was dead and then the other person would have escaped

[@dirkjohannesvanderbank9824]

Knuckles exactly most pad locks today has two or more key in the box when you buy one

[@mustle41]

How much do you guys wanna bet this guys youtube channel is gonna blow up dude is a straight wizard with his editing

[@OrientalXLIVth]

Mista Meme 100 dollars even more in the future

[@Thecrazybros98]

Yeah

[@irishmancheckinin6540]

meme, hes almost 50k now. where was this channel at when you posted?

[@firstdibs6790]

1k

[@mrprimor227]

@@irishmancheckinin6540 94k

[@Thes4LT]

Creating the appearance that an important government agent is a sexual deviant is probably the most stereotypical act of espionage I can think of. In this case it was used to grant plausible deniability for whoever killed Williams by deflecting the blame onto Williams and his own supposed deviancy. The lack of fingerprints alone is enough for any reasonable person to conclude that this was an assassination. Moreover, if he were doing this for sexual gratification, why would he do it in the bath tub and not on his bed or some other comfortable place? Of course we have to explain the event in which he had to be untied from his bed. Note how he screamed to attract attention the first time, intending for people to rush to his aid. The second time? No screams--he didn't have time to scream. Now, Obviously he was into some strange stuff; but that doesn't mean he got in the bag for the same reason. Likely whoever did this knew that Williams had a strange fetish, so they used this knowledge to create a plausible "accidental" death. Again, no fingerprints, no sign that WIlliams ever handled the bag, presence in a suspicious location (bathroom,) guy is an MI6 spy, nothing lines up with accidental death by kinkiness and it all points to assassination IMO.

[@puffdaddy420]

A brilliant analysis! 🧐

[@shreknskrubgaming7248]

Being an American, when you said, "20,000 pounds of women's clothing" I was absolutely stunned. Then I was like, "wait... he's talking about the currency, isn't he?" And that's how I learned that I am a fucking idiot. I legit sat here for a few full seconds thinking, "how the hell did he get 10 tons of clothing into his apartment???"

[@calebgonzalez275]

An yes. The thought process of an American. My brain originally thought he said dollars.

[@nocturnGER]

Bondage Bag Bimbos is gonna be the name of my future Death Metal band

[@skin_lizard]

@Heinous Anus For real? If so I need to go to Idaho and watch some sort of performance by you guys

[@OrcCorp]

Wow! A blast from the past! To think that you only had some 250 subs and some 10k views back then. This might come a couple of years late, but congrats on your explosive growth with the channel! Great content, so not a surprise 👌🏽😊

[@AqueleGamer]

This seems like a very, very well done hit, they clearly had dirt on him being into a lot of bondage stuff, so they left him there inside the bag to cast the situation into doubt.

[@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan]

Probably tried to blackmail him with the weird sex stuff. That's how they get to you. I guess the blackmail didn't take and they killed him in an ironic manner to take the piss;

[@J3diMindTrix]

Ok anyone who seriously considers option 1 needs to get a psych eval and pronto. You dummy. Let's just go over the facts shall we, and these are the ones we *know*, and this is MI6 we're talking about here so you know, literally their job is to cover up evidence Number 1) at the time of his death he was looking into Russian mafia business 2) the Russian mafia is heavily linked to the KGB 3) Admitting he knew the identity of the Russian spy is the only motive for murder in this entire affair 3) IF he got into the bag, how did he completely clean his whole flat of all DNA and fingerprints from inside the bag? Come on 4) If experts couldn't do it 400 times, and he couldn't untie himself from his bed, how did he do it? 5) A favoured assassination method of intelligence agencies is apparent suicide. Especially related to kinky sexual type stuff. Embarrasses the family into silence and creates a plausible alibi. 6) True fact, well done qxir untraceable poisons through the ear (leaving no needle marks) are another favoured pro murder method 7) What qxir didn't mention is that the heating in the flat was turned up to max even though it was the middle of summer. This would cause faster decomposition and make determining cause of death harder. Also, why, for what possible reason would Gareth do that? If he did, did he then wipe the thermostat clean of his own fingerprints? Why? Yes, exactly. 8) A computer genius left BDSM content on his laptop just for anyone to find? In general this absolutely reeks of covert ops elimination, and cover up. The killers knew how to professionally cover their tracks. The questions about why leave clues as to it being a murder when they could've made it look more like a suicide, are answered in the video. It's just to cause confusion and leave red herrings to befuddle the police and stop them looking, by leaving a plausible secondary scenario. It would have been very easy for any intruders to plant the women's clothing and access the websites on the laptop to create a cover story. I'm doing this for Gareth's family, to stop anyone being silly and dim enough to fall for the suicide angle. It's not a nice fate, for your son to die and dimwits be led to believe he took his own life when anyone with half a brain or even cursory knowledge of international espionage slightly above 'James Bond' level can see that this is a blatant cover up. The level of professionalism leaves only two possibilities, either the KGB or even MI6 though a Russian connection is more likely. I only mention MI6 as the fact it took coworkers several days to notice his absence from work and report it is HIGHLY suspect. If an intelligence operative misses even ONE DAY of work or even are 2 hours late they are immediately contacted and found as there is a possibility foreign adversaries have abducted or compromised your agent. Therefore there is a slight possibility MI6 either knew about the death and covered it up, possibly after having been informed by the Russians themselves and seeking to avoid an investigation, or for some reason did it themselves to stop Gareth revealing the identity of the known Russian spy in their ranks which would have been highly sensitive and privileged information they wouldn't want getting out. Him even revealing that, though I suspect it was a spur-of-the-moment, lapse of judgment situation when faced with assassins and wanting some kind of reason for them not to kill him, was very unfortunate as he would have known to never do that. Agencies will value that intel over your life. RIP Gareth.

[@J3diMindTrix]

@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan yup. Absolutely. A+ logic bravo And the OP both of you

[@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan]

@@J3diMindTrix Thanks, Frank

[@carleduave2022]

When your university is so good its called "Banger University"

[@Dan-zc7ut]

Bangor is a town in Wales, but yes funny joke

[@fuzzyoneeyecompany524]

6:30 casually gets stopped at airport security “can I check your bag sir” pulls out bottle of water “sorry sir you can’t take this with you” closes bag leaving body inside “have a nice flight”

[@LaurensHouweling]

Everyone is saying this already but I love this channel and I can't stop watching it, keep it up dude!

[@Qxir]

Thanks :)

[@rlikemoney]

For real!

[@PatRiot-]

This is hilarious. In the video your talking about STRIVING for 100 subs Now sitting at 300k+ 👍

[@aaronp9835]

Qxir it makes sense because it caused so much confusion

[@Cal6009]

"I don't know how we're supposed to get any information out of him, everything we do to him he just says 'harder daddy' and it's starting to creep me out."

[@boldCactuslad]

uwu brand me again stalin-kun

[@tvela595]

"...an organization who's job is to read people's Facebook pages all day."

[@tvela595]

Dude, I'm in love with these videos. Your style is awesome

[@Qxir]

Thanks for your support :)

[@punk303]

yeah... that cracked me the fuck up

[@geordanlemon]

Well, they really mostly track underground organizations by following their members or ambushing meetings and they work with local law enforcement and the military to help stop threats to national security, but they certainly do some Facebook browsing

[@theguy1506]

It was foul play, it's extremely difficult to lock a bag from the inside with the lock on the outside

[@jjcoola998]

And not leave any fingerprints in your whole bathroom in your own house..

[@travisjp3097]

...and the key was inside the bag. Houdini shit.

[@chicoassmaster4293]

Yes. A reverse Houdini. Houdini got out of traps. This fellow William found a way to get killed in one so we are expected to believe by police. Haruuumpphh

[@J3diMindTrix]

If by 'extremely difficult' you mean 'impossible', then yes

[@J3diMindTrix]

Ok anyone who seriously considers option 1 needs to get a psych eval and pronto. Let's just go over the facts shall we, and these are the ones we *know*, and this is MI6 we're talking about here so you know, literally their job is to cover up evidence Number 1) at the time of his death he was looking into Russian mafia business 2) the Russian mafia is heavily linked to the KGB 3) Admitting he knew the identity of the Russian spy is the only motive for murder in this entire affair 3) IF he got into the bag, how did he completely clean his whole flat of all DNA and fingerprints from inside the bag? Come on 4) If experts couldn't do it 400 times, and he couldn't untie himself from his bed, how did he do it? 5) A favoured assassination method of intelligence agencies is apparent suicide. Especially related to kinky sexual type stuff. Embarrasses the family into silence and creates a plausible alibi. 6) True fact, well done qxir untraceable poisons through the ear (leaving no needle marks) are another favoured pro murder method 7) What qxir didn't mention is that the heating in the flat was turned up to max even though it was the middle of summer. This would cause faster decomposition and make determining cause of death harder. Also, why, for what possible reason would Gareth do that? If he did, did he then wipe the thermostat clean of his own fingerprints? Why? Yes, exactly. 8) A computer genius left BDSM content on his laptop just for anyone to find? In general this absolutely reeks of covert ops elimination, and cover up. The killers knew how to professionally cover their tracks. The questions about why leave clues as to it being a murder when they could've made it look more like a suicide, are answered in the video. It's just to cause confusion and leave red herrings to befuddle the police and stop them looking, by leaving a plausible secondary scenario. It would have been very easy for any intruders to plant the women's clothing and access the websites on the laptop to create a cover story. I'm doing this for Gareth's family, to stop anyone being silly and dim enough to fall for the suicide angle. It's not a nice fate, for your son to die and dimwits be led to believe he took his own life when anyone with half a brain or even cursory knowledge of international espionage slightly above 'James Bond' level can see that this is a blatant cover up. The level of professionalism leaves only two possibilities, either the KGB or even MI6 though a Russian connection is more likely. I only mention MI6 as the fact it took coworkers several days to notice his absence from work and report it is HIGHLY suspect. If an intelligence operative misses even ONE DAY of work or even are 2 hours late they are immediately contacted and found as there is a possibility foreign adversaries have abducted or compromised your agent. Therefore there is a slight possibility MI6 either knew about the death and covered it up, possibly after having been informed by the Russians themselves and seeking to avoid an investigation, or for some reason did it themselves to stop Gareth revealing the identity of the known Russian spy in their ranks which would have been highly sensitive and privileged information they wouldn't want getting out. Him even revealing that, though I suspect it was a spur-of-the-moment, lapse of judgment situation when faced with assassins and wanting some kind of reason for them not to kill him, was very unfortunate as he would have known to never do that. Agencies will value that intel over your life. RIP Gareth.

[@Buffalomonger]

For the second theory, isn't it possible that the man who killed him put him in the bag fully intending to move it as you said, but then couldn't inconspicuously move the bag out of the room due to it's weight, causing the murderer to just leave the bag there?

[@sabrinatscha2554]

That’s what I though too

[@brendanroberts1310]

But why lock it. If he was dead and placed in the bag there wouldn't be a need to lock it.

[@Keter001]

@@brendanroberts1310Because it was intended to look like he trapped himself. If it wasn’t locked he could’ve just unzipped the bag and escaped, so it wouldn’t have made much sense

[@brendanroberts1310]

@@Keter001 you make a good point however by locking the bag it would call into question how he could lock it after getting into it. One would rightly assume that it would be someone else who locked it.

[@jonathanreese6264]

I think i just found my favorite channel to legitimately watch and enjoy watching, KZbin is too boring. Thank you Ireland

[@Qxir]

Glad you like it :D

[@jonathanreese6264]

Qxir more than happy, genuinely enjoy it, just watched all your videos :) amazing humor too

[@andrewmerritt3123]

Everything I've seen about this case points to a professional hit where Gareth was killed somewhere else and put into the bag by someone who entered his hotel room with his key. Gareth's body was placed into the bath tub while the crime scene was cleaned and staged. Obviously, the embarrassing sexual possessions were intended to throw off the police. But the killer or killers had to leave the bag behind instead. They never had time to stage it as a suicide. Most likely as an auto erotic suicidal hanging which is a favorite method among killing among hitmen because it doesn't get investigated much further than that.

[@kale991]

They planted the evidence. You'd think a genius like him would have known how to use incognito mode. Edit: Humanity has failed me yet again. This comment was indeed intended to be a joke, not a point in the conversation so for the love of god don't take it seriously.

[@Alex632]

Incognito mode still saves your browser history. And ISP's can still see the sites you go to.

[@tangerinetech5300]

He's not a 13 year old hiding his browser history from his parents he was a grown man living alone he would literally have no reason to use or care about using incognito mode

[@bitterlemonboy]

@@Alex632 No, Incognito mode does not save your browser history.

[@DraccoXX]

I think it was a scary evil hungry bag. That’s why no one else could replicate it, they didn’t have the cursed bag lol

[@glitchtime404]

His landowners probably stuffed him in a bag and locked it and deprived him of food because they were so pissed off about him annoying them 24/7

[@loganrogers9157]

I think someone murdered him by asphyxiation, throw him in a bag with a key, lock it (all while wearing gloves), and look up bondage porn on his computer

[@qrtrx4]

that's one hell of a murder plan my guy

[@donororo171]

But to be fair he already was into bondage and all that since he tied himself to his bed and few weeks before that

[@sl_v4856]

i thought the same thing!

[@johannnespaul4300]

you forget that he was bondaging himself and his landlord knew it?

[@rickharrison1887]

When people die, they void their bowels because the muscles that keep everything in relax because the person is dead. So he shit himself in that bag and was in that bag, sealed, with his shit

[@matthewlam1046]

The bag is evil and it ate Gary

[@rulerofthelight]

When I was a young lad, I had a very large hockey bag. We used the climb in zip it up and try to smoke a whole joint. After about 5min the joint would go out and the lighter would stop lighting due to lack of oxygen. It would not have been hard to lock the zippers with a pad lock from inside the bag and it wouldn't have taken long in the bag to suffocate.

[@summer6100]

amazing story thank you for sharing

[@isabellind1292]

Hahaha! Except if you were trying to hide that you were smoking pot, the odor doesn't stay in the bag when you climb back out, lol!☺

[@isabellind1292]

@@summer6100 LOL!😀

[@khamjaninja.]

So a followup to the story - after the experts mentioned in this story came out and said there was no way he could've locked himself in the bag from the inside, a whole bunch of bandage fetishists online demonstrated exactly how to do it - and it's the same way you described. The key fact is that the bag was made of flexible fabric, so you can grip the padlock through the fabric. Not with enough precision to turn a key, but crucially, a padlock doesn't need a key to lock. You just need to be able to grip the shackle and the lock and push them together. You can do that through thick fabric. You would be able to open the zip - just a bit - and then you work the key through that tiny opening to get it into the padlock and get yourself free Of course, if you dropped the key, and the bag was too tight to roll over inside it, then you're stuck. So it's not exactly impossible - it's something that's been done and is still being done by bondsge fetishists and/or escape artists today. This would explain the lack of fingerprints on the lock - he was basically wiping it clean as he grasped it through the fabric. The lack of prints on the tub is more unlikely - but not impossible. It can be difficult to get clean prints at crime scenes - and there's always the risk that the first responders and investigating officers messed up the surfaces wrangling the bag out of the tub. There were also trace DNA found in the room - however, trace DNA isn't actually the foolproof evidence it's depicted as on TV. First, DNA degrades fairly quickly, and second, a hotel room would have traces of DNA from staff, previous guests, some guy's hair that he tracked in on his shoe, etc. However, what is suspicious is the bondage website thing. Because the investigation revealed that yes, he did visit bondage sites, but not that frequently. Not on a level you would consider obsessive. So a bit out of sybc that he'd go out of his way to make this elaborate setup.

[@poisonshift78]

I love looking back on the videos where you've got around 100 subs. If you could only see you now. Congrats man. You deserve all the success that you've found. You're making good content.

[@Qxir]

Thanks for the support mate!

[@peterhoulihan9766]

I'm guessing they intended to return for the bag, but circumstances prevented them from doing so or they thought the police were monitoring the location and lost their nerve.

[@jacobgreenwell9890]

He probably locked himself in there to see if he could Escape

[@manusk40]

do u animate these videos yourself ? i just came across your channel and i love it so far

[@Qxir]

Yup, I do everything myself :)

[@manusk40]

Good job man These kind of crime mysteries are my favourite

[@rangeldino2633]

Playing around a lot with bags and zippers during my school and university time I cannot understand why anyone would call the guys who tried to lock themself in a bag experts. They have to grap the zippers differently, not at the part of the zipper you usually pull at, but at the part that you can also touch from the inside. Like index finger outside, thumb inside, then you can also pull it together from the inside. The Lock you can attach while they are both still quite a bit appart from each other, although it is difficult, by holding it not directly in your hands but with the fabric of the bag between lock and fingers, so you don't need to have your hands outside of the bag. It is not really more difficult then tying both your hands to your bed. Especially both hands at different sides I would imagine to be actually harder. So yeah, I think this man was really good in tying himself up but sadly not in unleashing himself.

[@purplehaze2358]

There's a lot of evidence this video excluded.

[@altarancho]

Have you considered a career as a bag and zipper expert? Apparently the police have need for this specialty.

[@Mohawks_and_Tomahawks]

6:48 screenshot is hilarious 😆 Cheers 🍻

[@olivermansfield8341]

It seems impossible to do it himself, so I’d go with the Russian thing, but there should be more evidence

[@J3diMindTrix]

Ok anyone who seriously considers option 1 needs to get a psych eval and pronto. Let's just go over the facts shall we, and these are the ones we *know*, and this is MI6 we're talking about here so you know, literally their job is to cover up evidence Number 1) at the time of his death he was looking into Russian mafia business 2) the Russian mafia is heavily linked to the KGB 3) Admitting he knew the identity of the Russian spy is the only motive for murder in this entire affair 3) IF he got into the bag, how did he completely clean his whole flat of all DNA and fingerprints from inside the bag? Come on 4) If experts couldn't do it 400 times, and he couldn't untie himself from his bed, how did he do it? 5) A favoured assassination method of intelligence agencies is apparent suicide. Especially related to kinky sexual type stuff. Embarrasses the family into silence and creates a plausible alibi. 6) True fact, well done qxir untraceable poisons through the ear (leaving no needle marks) are another favoured pro murder method 7) What qxir didn't mention is that the heating in the flat was turned up to max even though it was the middle of summer. This would cause faster decomposition and make determining cause of death harder. Also, why, for what possible reason would Gareth do that? If he did, did he then wipe the thermostat clean of his own fingerprints? Why? Yes, exactly. 8) A computer genius left BDSM content on his laptop just for anyone to find? In general this absolutely reeks of covert ops elimination, and cover up. The killers knew how to professionally cover their tracks. The questions about why leave clues as to it being a murder when they could've made it look more like a suicide, are answered in the video. It's just to cause confusion and leave red herrings to befuddle the police and stop them looking, by leaving a plausible secondary scenario. It would have been very easy for any intruders to plant the women's clothing and access the websites on the laptop to create a cover story. I'm doing this for Gareth's family, to stop anyone being silly and dim enough to fall for the suicide angle. It's not a nice fate, for your son to die and dimwits be led to believe he took his own life when anyone with half a brain or even cursory knowledge of international espionage slightly above 'James Bond' level can see that this is a blatant cover up. The level of professionalism leaves only two possibilities, either the KGB or even MI6 though a Russian connection is more likely. I only mention MI6 as the fact it took coworkers several days to notice his absence from work and report it is HIGHLY suspect. If an intelligence operative misses even ONE DAY of work or even are 2 hours late they are immediately contacted and found as there is a possibility foreign adversaries have abducted or compromised your agent. Therefore there is a slight possibility MI6 either knew about the death and covered it up, possibly after having been informed by the Russians themselves and seeking to avoid an investigation, or for some reason did it themselves to stop Gareth revealing the identity of the known Russian spy in their ranks which would have been highly sensitive and privileged information they wouldn't want getting out. Him even revealing that, though I suspect it was a spur-of-the-moment, lapse of judgment situation when faced with assassins and wanting some kind of reason for them not to kill him, was very unfortunate as he would have known to never do that. Agencies will value that intel over your life. RIP Gareth.

[@olivermansfield8341]

@@J3diMindTrix dedication right there, but yes I agree, makes alot more sense, the media always skews the information and it seems their plan worked I guess

[@MoonCowGaming]

@@J3diMindTrix you failed to mention the hair found from unknown sources. And his electronics had been wiped and lined up on the table with the Sim cards removed. The search history was added after the factory resets.

[@mugens]

Or he knew he was being watch in order to get out of the house he call ups to pick up a package with him inside only problem he forgot the shipping lable

[@TheDragonCat99]

Another question I feel is important to ask is... why wasn't he screaming? That's how his neighbors found him the first time, right? Those types of bags aren't typically airtight so I imagine it would've taken a while to suffocate screaming or no, so where were his neighbors during all this? I feel like it'd make more sense if he was put in the bag while unconscious.

[@ManuelGarcia-cd1hk]

DNA was found and is being looked at. A hair from unknown sources was also found. the fact that his DNA is nowhere is a clue by itself. If the bag was sturdy and the lock on the outside, it would be difficult for someone without tools to reach the lock with a key from the inside. this guy was killed.

[@fratercontenduntocculta8161]

I genuinely feel bad for this guy. It's so abundantly clear this was done by an intel organization, following many of their published and publicly available manuals. The worst part is how they slandered him after death, like nobody deserves that.

[@elsgaming4333]

I think that he planned to inflitrated an organisation by puting himself in the bag and carried by his partner to the place but either his partner forgot or his partner betray him and leave him there to die

[@prussianpotato6894]

Els gaming why did he have the key if thats the case?

[@chrismorse3862]

+Prussian Potato in case his partner flodged but then he dropped it and it slid under him and he couldn't contort himself into a position to get to it

[@blackberry_seed8390]

most padlocks have 2 keys

[@tezknowsball]

This makes 0 sense

[@CorruptArts1]

mousek801 Mousek801 well duh who’s gonna be able to kill you once you burst out a duffelbag with a low flying helicopter

[@RedactedStratos]

The bag formed around him as he was getting ready for a relaxing bath.

[@paulpreusser8193]

Most padlocks come with two keys no? So, like, if there was a real fetish thing this guy had then its possible he had one of his fetish buddies lock the bag on him, then leave. Its possible its that simple. They probably left a key inside the bag as an alternate means in case shit hits the fan. I can imagine the two's dialogue like this: Williams: "Hey leave me an extra key before you leave." Horny Stranger: "Wtf why" Williams: "Well once I tied myself to the bed and had to get out, so all I did was scream, and somebody came and got me. This time if I really get stuck, I can just pass the key through the little slit in between the zippered padlock and they can undo the lock. This time, however, nobody heard his muffled yells. In the good bit of extra research I did, there was no mention of the state of the interior of the bathtub. No cracks, no marks on the body, no sort of evidence that would suggest that he was alive before being put in the bag. So, some have concluded and I agree, that Williams was either unconscious or dead before being put inside of the bag. Its possible that he succumbed to hypercapnia (elevated carbon dioxide poisoning), but that leaves behind pretty unmistakable traces, even for a week long dead body. Like, if he had actually died of this, then its certain it would have been mentioned in the police report. My theory is that this was either a stupid accident, or a really clean hit.

[@Qxir]

Either way it's bizarrely incredible

[@paulpreusser8193]

A true mystery, for sure

[@berzerkbankie1342]

I feel like a secret agent could escape a zipped up bag if his life was on the line.

[@coatwelladvertising]

I feel like anyone could escape any bag they are in if they just shoved at the stitching hard enough.

[@James-bw3qp]

PanicDoesStuff you would be surprised

[@MegaAwesomeNick]

4:04 Those experts must have had to account for a lot of variables. Of the top of my head: height, BMI, flexibility, the lack of clothing, the position in the tub. Imagine a bunch of forensic scientists interviewing all of those people... to stuff themselves in a bag... because some guy might of offed themselves trying to get off...

[@696969yolo696969]

bondage is a pretty common fetish. Seems to be a pretty big leap from your basic ropes and chains to locking yourself inside a duffel bag.

[@sekgo1265]

I'm high as a kite, your vids are awesome dude :D Keep it up! Got a sub from me :D

[@Qxir]

Cheers buddy :)

[@Petyr682]

Me also. Many enjoys. Peter, Dublin

[@HAL_9001]

Love the storytelling style. Congrats on 50k!

[@Qxir]

Cheers :)

[@ammarshah2366]

"After his death, police had a look at Gareth's browser history. A fate worse than death." Man, I laughed hard at that one.

[@sci_pain3409]

moral of the story: clear your browser history

[@FERDON73]

“Somehow tied to his work...” Genius.

[@danieldemayo6209]

Love your shit

[@Qxir]

:D

[@_JayRamsey_]

"Tales from the bottle" is apt, for I've always the bottle nearby when watching. And when I'm not watching.

[@0_o913]

What if it was the land lord

[@MrFley]

2:32 nah, i watch this out of my bag, i accidently got in it and now i cant get out. Pls help. I am in the bathtub, while trying to free me i accidently put a lock on the outside and locked it. I deffinitly dont work for the nsa, nono. Pls send help

[@eclipse4376]

Me (an american): how tf do you have 20,000 pounds of womens clothing- OOOOOOH

[@RobbieHatley]

£, not LB. 🙂

[@benny2b277]

A Russian agent walks in when he has himself halfway in the bag, they look at each other for a second as all they can do is look at each other, the silence is finally broken by these words, " well, are you going to just stand there or help me out comrade?"

[@19XSB]

Qxir! How do you feel about suddenly blowing up? Also love the videos, keep it up

[@Qxir]

I'm amazed tbh, although it's a little scary to suddenly have so many eyes on you :b Cheers

[@19XSB]

Cheers!

[@CrackedTubeGamer]

Qxir Aim big dude this is a rare moment enjoy!

[@eman8775]

Good channel with good content you deserve more subs

[@Moneymenowww]

Do you know if he had the key inside the bag and found it he could just poke the key on the zip and the zip would just open

[@emmestein]

he did, yes.

[@finmueller7827]

your telling me MI6 didnt have cameras and many different was to check on him or watch him?

[@nicolascageboii6127]

This channel can go very far, love the quick info with funny humor. Hope you keep on making videos my dude :)

[@Qxir]

Thanks friend! There's more on the way :)

[@J3diMindTrix]

@@Qxir Ok anyone who seriously considers option 1 needs to get a psych eval and pronto. Silly billy. Let's just go over the facts shall we, and these are the ones we *know*, and this is MI6 we're talking about here so you know, literally their job is to cover up evidence Number 1) at the time of his death he was looking into Russian mafia business 2) the Russian mafia is heavily linked to the KGB 3) Admitting he knew the identity of the Russian spy is the only motive for murder in this entire affair 3) IF he got into the bag, how did he completely clean his whole flat of all DNA and fingerprints from inside the bag? Come on 4) If experts couldn't do it 400 times, and he couldn't untie himself from his bed, how did he do it? 5) A favoured assassination method of intelligence agencies is apparent suicide. Especially related to kinky sexual type stuff. Embarrasses the family into silence and creates a plausible alibi. 6) True fact, well done qxir untraceable poisons through the ear (leaving no needle marks) are another favoured pro murder method 7) What qxir didn't mention is that the heating in the flat was turned up to max even though it was the middle of summer. This would cause faster decomposition and make determining cause of death harder. Also, why, for what possible reason would Gareth do that? If he did, did he then wipe the thermostat clean of his own fingerprints? Why? Yes, exactly. 8) A computer genius left BDSM content on his laptop just for anyone to find? In general this absolutely reeks of covert ops elimination, and cover up. The killers knew how to professionally cover their tracks. The questions about why leave clues as to it being a murder when they could've made it look more like a suicide, are answered in the video. It's just to cause confusion and leave red herrings to befuddle the police and stop them looking, by leaving a plausible secondary scenario. It would have been very easy for any intruders to plant the women's clothing and access the websites on the laptop to create a cover story. I'm doing this for Gareth's family, to stop anyone being silly and dim enough to fall for the suicide angle. It's not a nice fate, for your son to die and dimwits be led to believe he took his own life when anyone with half a brain or even cursory knowledge of international espionage slightly above 'James Bond' level can see that this is a blatant cover up. The level of professionalism leaves only two possibilities, either the KGB or even MI6 though a Russian connection is more likely. I only mention MI6 as the fact it took coworkers several days to notice his absence from work and report it is HIGHLY suspect. If an intelligence operative misses even ONE DAY of work or even are 2 hours late they are immediately contacted and found as there is a possibility foreign adversaries have abducted or compromised your agent. Therefore there is a slight possibility MI6 either knew about the death and covered it up, possibly after having been informed by the Russians themselves and seeking to avoid an investigation, or for some reason did it themselves to stop Gareth revealing the identity of the known Russian spy in their ranks which would have been highly sensitive and privileged information they wouldn't want getting out. Him even revealing that, though I suspect it was a spur-of-the-moment, lapse of judgment situation when faced with assassins and wanting some kind of reason for them not to kill him, was very unfortunate as he would have known to never do that. Agencies will value that intel over your life. RIP Gareth.

[@olliegoria]

Personally, here’s my two theories: 1. This guy hired someone to lock him in a bag, and that someone never came back to unlock him. Death cause: asphyxiation. 2. Russians killed him, knew his fetish for bondage, it was their half-ass way of killing him and faking his accidental suicide. If they took the bag with him, then nobody knew where he disappeared to, so they had to leave it in his bathtub as a cover.

[@misspineapple553]

7k subs in less than 24 hours! congrats man!!

[@Qxir]

Cheers :)

[@RealfishingNL]

If your land lady lives within screeming distance. Its almost for shure she did it

[@michpo1445]

Its simple, they put the body in the bag, were preparing to go bury it somewhere, cleaned all the fingerprints off, then got spooked either by the cops or the neighbors and had to make a quick getaway leaving the bag in the tub

[@firstdibs6790]

The bag consumed him

[@silver5706]

Hi it's NV2 Noogets I made some comments on your other videos and I just wanted to say your videos are awesome like seriously they are also really humorous and I enjoy the content, subscribed to you man

[@Qxir]

Cheers :)

[@EfrainQuezada]

I was on an osw reviews playlist and this came up, glad I found this channel, the boi is hilarious. Fucking subbed!

[@Qxir]

Idk what OSW is or why this video is there lol but I'm glad to have you aboard :)

[@SpookyTheScary]

2:08 sorry :(

[@SpaceStickwithSpaceTick]

Boris: Hey this seems like a silly question but you did put the body in the back of the car, right? Sergey: ... OH GOD WE HAVE TO GO BACK

[@bansai7260]

love the drawings

[@Qxir]

Thanks! :)

[@n1hilanth314]

"There isn't much evidence and it doesn't make sense " that's what they want you to think

[@mort4810]

I hope you keep making videos like these. They're very underrated but these could really blow up if you keep at it. Your voice is amazing

[@Qxir]

Thank you for the support, my friend! More is coming :)

[@kevinvance3568]

Yes. Absolutely! Great story telling voice. I grew up in California where everyone talks either in a Hollywood way or surfer/valley girl. The other “English” speaking accents are often interesting to me. With a mild exception to Oasis who had such a thick accent MTV subtitled one of their interviews for the U.S. audience. Still interesting, I just couldn’t make out all the words. Genuinely wasn’t sure they were speaking English.

[@purplehaze2358]

I really don't buy the explanation that he was just a little too kinky for his own good. The temperature in the room was dialed up as though attempting to speed up decomposition and all of his devices were completely wiped. The fact that the notion it was an accidental suicide was entertained in this video was questionable. I'll be honest Q, this is the first 'miss' of yours I've watched.

[@Shannon_Dobbs]

5 years ago you were at 254 subs 31-10-2023 Now you’re sitting at an incredible 1.01 Million subscribers. I’ve been with you since the Demon Core Video and it’s been a hell of a ride. Congratulations on 1 million, Brother! Here’s to several million more! Cheers from Louisiana!

[@minecraftkid50978]

Your channel has gained like 6k subs in 2 days Gg

[@Qxir]

Thanks matey! :)

[@gretathuumberg]

I had the urge to subscribe to your channel because of this video

[@Qxir]

Great :D

[@watchyourmirrors7035]

Surprised I haven’t seen your videos before cos I always watch random shit! Great animations and great content! Watched a few of your vids now and subbed! Look forward to more. Cheers geezer! 👍

[@Qxir]

Thanks for your support :)

[@pohovanavanila]

You know limbo,right,you see how low can you go.. BUT NOW WE'RE GONNA INTRODUCE,BAG LIMBOO!!! *wow* You need to see how small of a bag you can get into! *Man was just playing bag limbo and accidentally trapped himself in one of the bags,chill bruh*

[@insanitycubed8832]

My theory:? It was a half murder, half suicide KGB operative: [sneaks in] So Garth how do you want to die Garth: Really I get to choose? KGB: Yes, we are not in a battle field after all Garth: How about... nah just shoot me KGB: What? It's your death comrade Garth: Well it's embarrassing KGB: No come on, I won't judge you I swear .... and here we are today

[@Teddemeister]

HOLY SHIT another 10 thousand subs! You’re on fire mate!

[@Qxir]

:D

[@youngcrusade3012]

How would he of locked it

[@ishaboy5090]

young crusade "he of" smh

[@TinyEarthling]

I think he's trying to communicate

[@idzidz833]

But the sentence is correct tho

[@ishaboy5090]

Blondie Ballin Typical blondie ;)

[@idzidz833]

isha boy **laugh track**

[@NotRealNamesAgain]

Love stories like these. I think I subscribed for the ridiculousness (and greatness, if you think of it differently) of the Nuclear Demon video.

[@Qxir]

Glad you enjoyed, friend :)

[@barnbersonol]

You get 3 identical keys with a padlock so the key found in the bag OBVIOUSLY isnt the same one as the key used to lock the bag. So freakin obvious, durr!

[@SamualDechampain]

Quality stuff, nice job

[@Qxir]

Thanks, bud :)

[@KaiCSGO]

Blowing up been here since 50

[@Qxir]

;)

[@ryjelsum]

How's it feel to have your channel blow up so much in 2 and a half months? Nice videos though, you definitely deserve it!

[@Qxir]

Great! :)

[@-ahvilable-6654]

Benny Harvey RIP

[@Domdotcom799]

I wonder what the timestamps for those "BDSM web searches" were. If they were within a day or so of estimated TOD, seems like it would be pretty obvious foul play was involved. The landlords' statements of him tying himself to the bed aren't necessarily conclusive evidence either, could be some sort of coerced testimony.

[@Vok250]

Bruh. It's obvious. Both theories are true. A sexy Russian spy convinced him to get into the bag as a sex thing , cleaned up the scene, and left him there to die.

[@Pigkle]

His cat did it..

[@Pigkle]

Or I think he did it to test and see if he could get out... just like when he tied himself to the bed

[@Pigkle]

But I mostly think the cat did it :)

[@theus663]

Keep up the good work! :D

[@Qxir]

Thanks, I will :b

[@nk361]

Here's what I think happened: The incident where the landlord lady had to help was where someone or multiple someone's came to his living space and threatened him with a gun, tied him, and either interrogated him or threatened him for what he was doing/learning about. I think he screamed and they ran off, which is when the landlord lady eventually showed up and he knew he couldn't say anything. So I think the second part was most likely the same person or persons harassing him at gun point, degrading him too. I think they made him get in the bag but they were the ones to close it and lock it. I also think he was poisoned which is why he didn't just scream once trapped in the bag and why he died so quickly compared to how he would have slowly died from malnutrition in the bag otherwise. There was no dna found because it was a combination of the assailants knowing what they were doing (wearing gloves, not touching much, not leaving any kind of bodily fluids, etc) and the fact that he was not found until days had passed (time not only gets rid of small evidence but it also could make it far harder to tell if he was poisoned) Then finally, I believe whoever did that to him did it after they got the information they wanted, since they chose to poison him after and leave.

[@1xoACEox1]

All the sexual deviancy stuff had me onboard for theory 1 but no fingerprints? Impossible. Completely and utterly impossible. If he was killed it was probably done in such a bizarre way to send a message.

[@Forestdude9000]

On the topic of money laundering, wouldn't closing tax loopholes make tax evasion and money laundering more difficult? Stupid world governments.

[@u.h.forum.]

“Sir, we’ve found the killer!” “Good job Smithers, good show.” “The man locked himself in the bag, sir.” “You what?” “He is Welsh though sir.” “Case solved.”