Röki - Troll in One

Röki is a game about Scandinavian mythology, so let's see if we can tell the difference between a Tomte and a Nøkk...
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[@louissimon2367]

'Upsetting to a small person'... They're called children, Jon. Children.

[@Pchlster]

Inferior adults, you mean?

[@Crazyneil1986]

@@Pchlster Halflings, innit.

[@frogslieawke]

I love this

[@thnecromaniac]

@@Crazyneil1986 Gnomes?

[@ChulioRCHulio]

"mythology is rich in storytelling!" Thinks back to the Aenaeas character assassination - yeah you´re right. Rich and wonderful stories about an honest, pious man. With no plotholes whatsoever

[@wolfqueen137]

I was expecting cute, chill, relaxing...idk why I'd expect that more than a second after you said Norse mythology lol

[@frogslieawke]

I also thought it would be fine! But no!

[@Darthtanos]

oh goodness... i feel so sorry for you, their myths are *anything* but those things.

[@lilbluecaboose]

I will need more content where Jon just reads children's stories to us

[@anumeon]

We Tomtar from Scandinavia forgive you for any pronunciation errors. Heck, we love you for them.. :D You know, that alcoholic father looks more like the stereotypical canadian logger doesn't he. :)

[@and1355]

the titel as almost perfect

[@stephanjuvik6266]

You don't speak for all of us, Lille tomte.

[@Skycroft1000]

18:15 You would call them an 'unkindness' of ravens, traditionally.

[@count487]

Or a conspiracy. That’s the term here

[@theluckyaceco]

@@count487 Indeed! In the UK they would be a conspiracy of Ravens, there's a fun little book from the Bodleian Library which collects a host of collective nouns for birds, titled "A Conspiracy of Ravens" personal favourites of mine include an ostentation of Peacocks and an asylum of Loons!

[@ReaverTheSurvivalist]

Jon I've watched you since the "kill everything" series and I love how little you've changed as a content creator

[@catalyst336]

watch again, he is so polished today compared to his kill everything videos.

[@Azaghal1988]

@@catalyst336 h the videos are more polished, but jon didn't change his style or humor, many content creators change in order to appeal to a wider audience, jon didn't do that ;)

[@DullWolfGaming]

Just as war, Jon never changes.

[@ReaverTheSurvivalist]

catalyst336 well of course he has, it's been years since he was recording 360 footage hahaha, all I'm saying is he's always been pretty consistent and I respect and love him for it

[@Gbusjones]

"The tree is full of eyes, my favorite kind of tree" bloody golden

[@EGRJ]

I like how Dad sleeps through the emergency, then he wakes up covered in debris and fire and he doesn't even bother to ask what happened.

[@MW-pb2gf]

I feel like videos like this-the type of game, the narrative structure, Jon’s uncertainty with what to expect from the mythology or gameplay-is where Jon is really in his element as a commentator, and what makes these types of videos especially enjoyable.

[@CarlMarx]

As a scandi my first thought when I saw you video was "Oh" the second one was "boy"

[@CommissarMitch]

I Will in this comment try my best to explain the different Scandinavian creatures in ways that Jon can understand. Tomte = Gnome. Think a mix between Dungeons and Dragons and Garden Gnomes. They can be either good or evil. However they have a tendency to reward hard work (Like the story where a boy wanted to make a wooden Rose for his mother).

[@CommissarMitch]

I am not 100% sure about the 4 creatures so can not comment.

[@CommissarMitch]

Yes Scandinavian trolls are that massive. It is quite scary.

[@CommissarMitch]

Älva is basically a Pixie. Yes they are normally bad.

[@dustun9558]

This video is anti-ASMR for Scandinavians.

[@dustinlouis5457]

I have many questions first anti-ASMR what is that and Dustun is that pronounced like dustin?

[@dezent]

Imagine Danish ASMR... det är mardrömmen.

[@cityuser]

@@dezent _kamelåså_

[@gadrill4285]

... antismar?

[@dustun9558]

@@dustinlouis5457 My name is pronounced Dust-uhn. ASMR gives you a pleasurable feeling, Anti-asmr would stress you out due to mispronunciation

[@mrchackerify]

Norway approves. Thank you for providing such beautiful games to our attentiont! :) Fun to see our history put into such great storytelling. Jotun in old Norse means "Troll" or more correctly "Giant". If you ever go to Norway, you really should go to the mountain nationalpark of Jotunheimen. The mythology of these mountains is that it is home to the trolls and giants. Likewise, the Dovre mountains is the home of the King of the Trolls (Dovregubben) with their mighty Dovre Hall. History is facinating :)

[@scorseve]

"Now I get the whole house to myself 'cause everybody is dead!" As a person who never used to have my own bedroom as a kid... I kind of feel that :D

[@ErikHawkinson]

I knew this would get dark when I saw Jon cook himself on a stove.

[@count487]

Jon isn”t an egg. He’s an egg CARTON

[@josephmccurdy9327]

Most undervalued channel on KZbin! Love you guys!

[@Rellana1]

I really hope you continue this and it's not just a one-off as playthroughs of this game with commentary seem to be a bit rare.

[@SophieRobinson-tl2xz]

Please play more of this game, it was nice to watch. Love your videos :D

[@DeathXSpotXElite]

OH jon, scandinavian stories hare horrible, mostly to instill values and make kids be cautious, like the nøkken (mentioned in the game as nokk at the begining), its a swamp/water creature that wil drown you if you go to far out, also have you read how odin got his horse? so horrible story warning, basically a jotun made a deal with odin and the gods gang that he woud make them walls for asgard, they didnt want to pay him (he asked alot) but loki said its fine he wil never make it, but the jotun made good time and loki was panicking. the only way to stopp him from reaching the deadline was to get rid of his horse, so loke turns into a mare, and was only going to lure the horse away, depending on what version you are told, intercourse is sugested or that loki got violated by the horse, all version leading to loki giving birth to a gray eight legged horse named sleipner. so oding is technically riding his nephew. so we got som pretty fucked upp stories. i was taught the violated version in 2grade of primary school in norway. and its okay jon we got some ekstra letters in the alphabeth, this was still a lovley experience. also alva is elf, tomte is a nisse, so either like the iclandic julelads or a mischivous goblin

[@TheThewildcheese]

As a fellow scandi, and a buff for the old tales, there's one little inconsistency with the tale. As funny as it is to think Odin riding his technical grandson around... Though there are many versions. Loki is technically not the son of Odin, well not technically at all, he just straight up isn't. That's mainly a modern media thing to my knowledge. He's referred to as blood brother to Odin in the Tale where he accidentally confesses to Balder's murder and his linage isn't directly connected with Odin's... at least not strongly by most sources. So at worst he's riding around on his nephew, at best he's riding around on a half horse quarter Jotun quarter Aesir beast resulted from one of Loki's many schemes. But you're right, The Norse tales are a messy and quite fucked up kind of tale

[@kendallchaos]

TheThewildcheese exactly technically Loki isn’t even an asgardian (by blood anyway) he’s actually a jotun that saved Odins life if I remember correctly (I’m sure I’m missing a few details as Norse mythology isn’t my strong suit)

[@TheThewildcheese]

I can't quite remember where their actual familiar bond by choice stems from either, it's one of those fragmented myths that's stupid hard to source. But it's a bond of choice and not by heritage, that much is clear. Though saying Loki is a full Jotun isn't completely right either. We don't actually know what his other half is, his mother is never given a origin in the sagas as far as i can tell. It's speculated she could be either Aesir or Jotun. And i mean, giving him a duality makes sense in story telling terms. Easier to be accepted into Aasgard but never having full belonging to it. It compliments his arch into Ragnarok very well.

[@Scythus]

Marvel's Loki series will have some effed up episodes in store for us!

[@Ellanion]

Your pronunciation of Röki was so good, and then you went and called Tove Toe-Wei. Never change :)

[@dezkelz]

As somebody learning Swedish, I think you pronounced Röki better than I can.

[@Ct--ed4eo]

From a swede to you, Swedish is pretty hard to learn so, props to you for taking it on, pronounciation is not that crazy important at first, seriusly people up in norrbotten basicly just talk by breathing in.

[@Pchlster]

Ö/Ø is pronounced like the French "eau."

[@dezkelz]

​@@Ct--ed4eo and ​ @Philip Harboe Thanks! One of my aunts is from Sweden so her entire family is more or less fluent and my mom wanted to learn it since her grandmother was from there so I told her I'd learn it with her. I've been doing the Duolingo thing and feel pretty good about it, but some of the grammar rules trip me up a little. Pronouncing anything with "sk" in it is tricky too, but I'm enjoying it.

[@Zenriesz]

You pronounced it close enough, sounded more like the slang word for cigarette in finnish to me (rööki) but that's aight.

[@mattevans4377]

More please :) Also, calling it now, all the bad things happened after Tove fell asleep, so, I'm guessing, this is all a dream.

[@Jager-hs8lu]

Last time I was this fast to watch a MATN video, Scotland was winning in Civ VI Apocalypse.

[@johanejp]

12:40 The 24 hours of sun happens during the SUMMER, during winter it's actually dark for the whole day.

[@lasse6435]

And what with the snow and calling her little brother Tomte, it sounds more like it's a round December.

[@DarkDutch007]

If you live in the arctic circle as close as you can be to the most northern point, isn't it possible to be snowing longer or most of the time, even in summer? Other then Scandinavian folklore/fairytale I might have missed the location where the house burned.

[@johanejp]

@@DarkDutch007 That much snow in the middle of summer is uncommon even in the most northern part of Scandinavia unless you live really high up in the mountains. Even then, the game is most definitely not set in such an area as shown by the dense pine forest. Although, it is possible even for some of the more southern parts to receive a significant amount of snow in June but it's far from the norm.

[@dgh0yt]

Maybe some sleepy tea, rather than trying to swap the frog out for something else while the troll is awake and watching you?

[@ZakisHereNow]

Yet again your legendary observation skills shine!

[@christhewritingjester3164]

I grew up on adventure games, so this was a nice throwback.

[@TheMidgetNamedCat]

Would love to see a live stream! Thank you Jon and Claire

[@stormypinkness4030]

This was delightful, I'd love to see more.

[@TheBook778]

I got an advert for Röki before the video. To answer Jon’s question about what a group of ravens is called, it’s a “unkindness” or a “conspiracy”.

[@Ghost77210]

Ok I would LOVE to see a full play through of this

[@noaharaldsson703]

A tomte is a mischievous dwarf. And we call our Santa that in Sweden. I think the story was that he would harm your cattle if you didn't put out porridge for him or something like that.

[@jamesdrill8692]

Id love to see you play more of this game

[@grumpyg00mba]

This needs to be an end card. So many good lines "I was mildly annoyed when you killed my dad but when you break our ball we are gonna have problems!" "The trees have eyes. My favorite kind of trees"

[@Pchlster]

Ö/Ø is pronounced, and ask Claire for help with this, if need be: "eau."

[@JrgPt96]

The main story is a variation on The Snow Queen from Hans Christian Andersen, where the ice queen kidnaps a girl's younger brother and keeps him in an ice castle. The girl goes on to rescue the little brother while meeting all kinds of fairytale creatures on her way. It's the story the Disney movie Frozen is loosely based on.

[@cutekitten4395]

This games seems so fun, please keep playing

[@bg3929Z]

Gosh, I'd love to see more of this!

[@coreystafford7008]

Jon we're gonna need more of this please

[@eyadmardini8904]

PLAYTHROUGH! PLAYTHROUGH! PLAYTHROUGH! Please MATN I'd love to see the playthrough of this!

[@daytonlucas7364]

We need a series on this

[@1122superpie1122]

Jon, you are so close in some of the pronunciations (coming from an American) as someone who studies IPA here are some tips to help. When you see an ö it is a [o] with the lips and a [e] with the tongue and when you see an Ü it is an [o] in the lips and a [u] with the tongue, an [ä] is an [ae] as in "and" with a [o] lip (as described for someone who English is their native language).

[@alicealysia]

Lockpicking requires a strong object to provide tension, and a curved, thin object so you can push the tumblers up while tension is applied. Not complicated, but easier said than done, and finding good lockpicking implements is a challenge.

[@scottchadwick1517]

A Tomte sounds like a typical home gnome.

[@holst7183]

It's such a nice game and the music is very relaxing.

[@adchrisrob]

Would love to see more!

[@daytonlucas7364]

Jon can read a story to me any time

[@per-olofadolfsson4874]

Jon, you said Röki very good. We like it.

[@Le_R73]

2:30 ravens are one of the most defining features of Norse mythology, as they are generally the birds of Odin and are essentially carrier pigeons as well

[@alexisauld7781]

Tabby must get the loveliest bedtime stories.

[@blarfnugle5653]

Awww yisss, new MATN video just as I start to make dinner.

[@RocKaFella57]

I can't watch all the new MATN vids because I'm too busy watching the old MATN videos

[@bibeau756]

He's making eggs for dinner... Some form of virtual cannibalism? :D

[@Xarestrill]

This game reminds me of "Brothers A Tale of Two Sons" (except this is more point & click adventure game and Brothers is more of an exploring/puzzle solving game). That was such a good game. Did you ever play it Jon? I searched, but didn't find it.

[@hanneshenriksson2555]

Please more of this!

[@isabelamontgomery9182]

Ohhhhh please tell me you’ll do more of this!

[@jacokraft2813]

Now I have a strong urge to research Scandinavian Mythology.. And to learn to say the words right lol

[@tallyranger7964]

I've just been watching this with my daughter and she (and I) is enthralled. She is very disappointed the story has had to stop. Please play again so she can help you find Lars!

[@therakshasan8547]

Un touched snow and she wonders where he went. AHhhh Follow his foot prints?

[@InfinitySquared1]

Fun fact: a group of ravens is called an Unkindness.

[@mushymcmushington7176]

Something I've noticed about how Jon plays games is that he always uses "I" and "Me" in place of the protagonist's name. Maybe he's just more of a role-player than me, but in any game with a set protagonist I can't help but only ever refer to that protagonist as a separate entity from myself. Is that weird?

[@lasse6435]

The bad father is literally named Jötun. Like "Oh there's the adult who's failing to take responsibility for the kids, Mr. Badguy". 24:50 I think it was more like Tove or Lars are the half breed kid, Rövka is in the "Netherrealm" (or utangard?) and sending her ravens to find her kid, find it, and then sends Jætter to get it? Dunno. 28:40 I think it's supposed to be more bear like than bat like. Bears are huge and scary. The bats living in Scandinavia are tiny, and we have little mythology about them. 30:00 älva, elver, elf, typical in forests, but (what have survived of) norse mythology is not that specific. 34:00 I think the ring of mushrooms are also in English mythology, in Danish we call them heksering, witch ring/circle, as the witches must have danced there. I could swear other games also use them as portals, but can't find any myth about it, so it might be a modern game invention. 50:35 The building is a stavkirke, stave church, it looks like a direct copy of the one pictured in the English wiki. But yeah, christian church. Hope you make it to a livestream, it seems to really fit the format. Sweet and dark.

[@Aman123ace]

In English the ring of mushrooms is a fairy circle and it means that there are fairies nearby

[@Aman123ace]

A fairy circle can also be a ring of standing stones. I've heard, but I don't know from how reliable a source that they can be portals to faery if you're not careful, basically faery is a death sentence

[@markpeckham5673]

a group of Raven's is an Unkindness, Jon!

[@LucyKaida]

5:06 those "small persons" are called "children", I think

[@maxmustermann369]

nah mate, they are called twarves...

[@Magnificent_Mobius]

A group of ravens is called an unkindness

[@Umbrikeproductions]

A group of crows is called a congress. There's your lesson for the day.

[@Altrescu]

I had always heard that it was called a murder of crows.

[@Umbrikeproductions]

@@Altrescu I mistyped. It was supposed to say a group of ravens. You are correct. I made a grammatical booboo.

[@TheNellehFox]

oh please oh please finish this! I'm totally enthralled! If you do stream it, is there a way us youtube plebs can be notified of its happening? I don't tend to watch streams normally.

[@tatuhiltunen3072]

Notification bell gives notification when stream starts? Not the most guaranteed way to know, there's also the MATN discord server, where you get video/stream alerts and chat if you feel like it.. If you don't want/don't use discord, twitter or just put it in your own calendar, usually wednesday and saturday, time depends on your timezone. I'm fairly certain it's 6pm UK time usually.

[@heykak]

not often you see stave churches in literally any media

[@ENTERtheCREATOR]

Can you boil eggs? Can you mash eggs? Can you stick eggs in a stew? Oh... Well I guess you can do a lot with eggs...

[@alexandermarbjarnason1380]

The Yule Lads are great aren't they.

[@zlibbus4144]

I think the story made me a bit sleepy too... Jon have you thought of narrating audio-books?

[@Sublimeoo]

i wanna see more of this

[@RNS_Aurelius]

Jotnar (long of vowel sound) is the plural of jotunn. The jotnar are frost giants and Ymir (the y pronounced like the end of belly) was a one of the ancestors to all jotnar. He was killed by Odin and his body was used to form land of Midgard and his blood, the sea.

[@ryanpayne9119]

The extent ofmy understanding of Norse mythology is scimfaxi and hrimfaxi (sp?); two horses responsible for moving the sun. Thank you Ace Combat 5.

[@ChiiRayne]

If you like to learn about other people's myths and cultures, might I recommend an old PC game called Pandora's Box? It came out in the 90's and it's full of puzzles and different mythical characters like the Norse myth of Loki and the Native American myth of Coyote. Super fun and very addictive!

[@hanshelga]

Is the hilarious insanity of Icelandic christmas something everyone knows about or is Jon a fellow member of the Sam O'Nella Academy?

[@Aman123ace]

My choir teacher told me, he's not Icelandic in the slightest

[@ThePirateEmpressJessicaVT]

Tree Of Many has a mother? Sounds Like ManyATreeMa. I hate myself for saying this.

[@janelliott3972]

Lmao Good One Jess ;D

[@wordern3900]

As a Swede I can’t wait to see how this game represents my culture

[@BlueFireDrakka]

a flock of ravens is called a Conspiracy for anyone who wanted to know

[@bobrudolph5161]

This makes me want to finish Norsemen season 3, which is amazing btw!

[@Rateus_Johanson]

@00:18:30 ish. It's a Parliament of Ravens I think Jon.

[@calebpaulus3438]

Anyone know if Jon has tried the Banner Saga games? Seems like something he might enjoy.

[@turnbull832]

OK fine you have convinced me to buy another game i wouldn't of bought unless I saw a stream/video.

[@scoutobrien3406]

one eyed toy, being followed by two ravens... please watch out for wolves Jon this could go very badly.

[@phantom99991]

You should look up the webcomic A Redtail's Dream by Minna Sundberg. It's all about Finnish mythology.

[@KevinSmithGeo]

And then there's her newer comic about both Finnish and Norse mythology, Lovcraftian horror mutant decay monsters, and cats.

[@phantom99991]

@@KevinSmithGeo Stand Still Stay Silent is also amazing, yeh. It doesn't go as deep into the mythology, though.

[@ristopoho824]

One scandinavian here approves your pronouncing of röki. A little shorter on the ö and it'd be almost like a scandinavian would say.

[@ristopoho824]

Jötun is called jotun in finnish so that's fine. Also. Yea. How those things are pronounced does vary a bit depending on the language and area. And yea finnish is so much separate that even though we have mandatory swedish in school i may not be the ideal person to tell which ones are fine. I'm going to anyway 'cause internet and nobody really cares anyway.

[@ristopoho824]

Also. Jotun is a troll or a giant of sorts. Not sure if the doll is directly named after him or if the ö is just a naming thing on a dollname

[@b.a.m.5078]

Would make a good livestream

[@vittoriagnecchi5783]

Did he end up streaming the rest of the game?

[@jimmycher45]

28:43 Imperial Star Destroyer

[@XxRavensCallingxX]

an Unkindness of Ravens... or a Congress of Ravens

[@globalincident694]

Or a storytelling.

[@scbtripwire]

Yay! A scandiwegian game!

[@soursam1515]

While I’m Swedish myself this folklore sounds finish they tend to have some more spiritual animalistic tales in my experience (but don’t quote me on that)

[@tatuhiltunen3072]

I always thought we had pretty much the same folklore 😅

[@soursam1515]

Tatu Hiltunen I think ours is a lot more Christian like for example näcken who is supposed to be a child of satan

[@noaharaldsson703]

I am Swedish and your pronunciations could be alot worse. Where i live it can still be daylight at 10pm in summer but it usually gets dark around midnight. In the winter it gets dark around 3pm

[@iwobenek897]

Really cool game, could you complete it?^^

[@tylerufen]

you know, Jon, sometimes i joke to myself, in my head, that i might kill myself without you, but you know, they're always a bit of truth in humour.... 😕

[@H.J.Fleischmann]

Hang in there; things can only get better if we keep on keeping on.

[@tylerufen]

@@H.J.Fleischmann You know what I really like? When someone tries to make themselves the captain of the misery boat. Sit. The f-. Back. Down.

[@H.J.Fleischmann]

@@tylerufen, right then... I was trying to offer some encouragement, but it seems like you do not need it if that is how you respond.

[@pansarbat]

A troll! But more of the Icelandic nature. The Swedish trolls are different.

[@TheEJackUK]

Isnt it an unkindness of Ravens?

[@jessrokikilroy]

🤩 hey that’s my name!

[@mysteryblankdspace4342]

Nice