r/MaliciousCompliance - New Karen Boss Cuts My Pay Saying I'm USELESS! I Run the Place!

[@n9nedots]

As fun as these stories always are, its always interesting how every redditor is their companies, "best employee" 😂

[@tmntfangirl4700]

Story 1 - Good on OP for calling out the boss’s attempts at getting him to sign fraudulent papers and not giving into their incompetence.😂😂😂😂

[@Shockwave33]

Not only that but the CFO had full respect for what the OP did.

[@TheGoIsWin21]

Also, I have some respect for the CFO just chuckling through the whole thing. If you try to screw me and I screw you back, you regain a tiny bit of my good graces if you just accept the L without taking it personally.

[@o0Donuts0o]

Story 1 is some made up fantasy bull. It just never happened in that way.

[@TheGoIsWin21]

@@o0Donuts0o source?

[@o0Donuts0o]

@@TheGoIsWin21 Same source as the story. I put words on the internet and therefore it’s true.

[@JoannaHammond]

The funniest one for me was, I had to fire someone, we where all paid by the hour, stuff we did while being at uni. I got promoted quite quickly and in the end was I had to fire a friend, he was bloody lazy and didn't give a shit but that was not the point. I got home later and asked him if he was ok, he was, didn't really care, I asked if he got his two week pay (legaly required) and he did not. They tried to do a US style termination of work, not allowed in the UK. I told him this, he gots his extra two weeks pay. Rules are rules ;)

[@BWBDCan]

I've heard of many companies (mostly small ones) trying to do the same in the part of Canada I'm in. Most times they end up paying 2-3 months of pay and fines. Company my friend was with the owner learned a lesson a couple of months ago. 1. Don't need permission or tell someone you are recording a conversation. 2. Social media is very effective at turning customers against a business. 3.saying I'll just spend money on lawyers to keep you in court longer than you can afford your poor. I'm rich. The business which had been a big company in the city I'm in. Cut down to a 1/4 of its properties and staff. A lot of contractors stopped coming in for supplies. Regular were leaving and so on.

[@FallenPasha]

I have a fun story to tell. When Rogers bought FIDO in Canada, I was on a team to do knowledge transfer as the Montreal office was going to be closed. One of the engineers signed a contract for a year with a clause saying if it was terminated for any reason except his fault, he would be paid the entire annual salary as severance package. As the office was closed 1 month before the end of contract, he got 80k bonus on exit. Fun.

[@dcorgard]

Only $80k? Wow... I'm a tech making $70k, and the engineers where I work make easily over $100k. I know there's the USD vs CAD difference, but that's 1:1.38 ratio, not the other way around.

[@directeducation2890]

@@dcorgard This was 20 years and more ago.

[@itstruckmeeveryday]

As an American, it's amazing to me the protections workers have in other places. Where I live, you can be fired for literally any reason other than something federally protected like race, religion, etc. Two jobs I had for years and was AMAZING at I was fired from because the supervisors disliked me; nothing at all to do with job performance.

[@joehung1552]

Yay Capitalism and Reaganomics.

[@SuperSpecies]

​@@joehung1552 like it's the only country with capitalism.

[@olfrud]

Land of the free: free to be fired, free to be trampled on, free to be exploited etcetc

[@zztopz7090]

Eh, at least you could collect unemployment. My boss just didnt like me and forced me to quit.

[@gregcrabb3497]

In Tennessee you can be fired just because the boss doesn't like your choice in clothing or jewelry. Right to work state.

[@youdontneedtoseehisidentif4939]

I can never get enough of U.S. companies discovering that, in other countries, _employees have rights_ 😱

[@temitopeej8407]

I have so many stories….including a US CEO who decided to “shut down” the operations of a French subsidiary and terminate all 30 employees immediately. It’s been over a year and the company is still tied up in that mess. They are not yet permitted to give notification to the French employees and the CEO is gone, for other reasons. He was the billionaire founder of the company so he and his crew did not listen to “worker bees”. Founder or not, he got fired the same way he let thousands of people go. They cut off his access overnight.

[@johnwilliams6880]

Yea, right. Look how stupid and inefficient this is. Btw, I used to work overseas too, but love the US because I never sat around on my ass, as I was never without employment.

[@dullyvampir83]

@@johnwilliams6880 The perfect exploitable little worker drone.

[@jeanperdsmesbras5720]

@@johnwilliams6880 slave away man, happy for you

[@rolandhellmann3819]

@@johnwilliams6880 Surprise, i life and work in germany and i'm also employed the entire time from leaving school to today and will have 50 years of employment when i finaly retire. And becuase of my age and the time i spend at my current comapny they will have a hard time to fire me at all. But for you little american work drone.. if you boss wants to get rid of you you are gone the next day. Land of the free baby.

[@mark7s980]

Dad's work made him train his replacement. He left out key procedures, and a few passwords. So when they let him go they had to come to him to fix it. He started a private consulting firm and charged the 300x the pay rate they had been paying him before. They had no choice but to pay him.

[@RobertJarecki]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 OMG! How unethical! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Sagan_Starborn]

That’s technically theft. When you do work in a company everything you make and do is their property, including intellectual property

[@miskatonic6210]

Nice you so openly communicate crimes commited by your dad.

[@mark7s980]

@@miskatonic6210 he's dead. Try and charge him.

[@nycbearff]

@@miskatonic6210 If the company had been ethical and had never committed crimes against their employees - wage theft through unpaid or underpaid hours or any of the other very common ways that companies stiff their employees - maybe your outrage would be justified. But he was being told he was training his own replacement, so they were obviously getting rid of him and replacing him with someone cheaper, which is sometimes legal, but never ethical. So more power to him, forcing them to pay him for their assholery.

[@silverflight01]

Story 2: Oh look, tossing away the more experienced employees and then trying to maximize profits via lower pay and high prices for crap quality products actually hurt the business because of high turnovers and poor customer satisfaction. Who would've thunk? Honestly, I don't know how trying to throw out OP was going to help the company slowly crumbling.

[@kristhebrownie]

A lot of bad business owners only look at short term profits and fail to consider long term.

[@TellTalesRedditStory]

[@aaronabbey2604]

They don't care about the long term. Just blindly increase the profits at all costs. It is by design unsustainable.

[@silverblade357]

​@@kristhebrownieSeconded.

[@lordmortarius538]

It all comes down to ego. People who have been gaslit or did it to themselves to think that they have the business acumen to be successful, with little to no experience or even common sense.

[@natej6671]

Story #2: The replacement employee that quit as soon as OP left the job was a savage move. She tried to hedge against losing OP and ended up paying to train a replacement for nothing.

[@Pystro]

Well, yeah. If I was a replacement for someone that got fired for cost cutting reasons, first of all I would make sure that I can't be fired as easily as my predecessor. Being on a zero hour basis does not instill confidence that the company will be loyal to you as an employee.

[@SultanDesync]

Sometimes they fire an employee just to assert their power and feel like they're winning.

[@crichtonbruce4329]

The behavior of the Karen new boss in story 2 is such a common one I think this is what they actually teach people in American business schools.

[@JamesDavy2009]

Yet another reason why the American education system doesn't actually teach anything.

[@formes2388]

It's not just american business school unfortunately, it's just that american business school is the worst offender for this kinda crap.

[@NigelTolley]

It's a really easy way to make fortunes. Sneakily buy a big company, asset strip it, pay for the company with the asset strip, then pay yourself lots, then either sell it, or leave it to die - you've had your cut, the company is drowned in debt, and they just move to the next one. It's absolutely shitty.

[@MrKaizeek]

I went to college for business here in america and I have a degree for it I don't treat my employees like this or fail at understanding my own business so I don't think its america. Business school im positive its people who end up the boss because the had money or because they were bor. Into it or because they got hired with "experience " on that field that are the problem 😊

[@BigTiffany]

The storys are fake tho

[@podunk_woman]

S1: it wasnt Management's incompetence, but their attempt to cheat OP out of his redundancy pay.

[@jgraaay18]

Yup. They tried to screw him and failed, and he screwed them back, much more successfully.

[@surferdude4487]

Yep. It's utterly shocking how little new owners value skilled and experienced employees.

[@lancerevell5979]

So often I have seen someone with many years of institutional knowledge walk out the door. Eventually including me. 😮

[@silverblade357]

That's the pitfall of short-term profits. They let employees go and tell themselves the money saved proves it was a good decision. Basically, Karen didn't see OP as a person, just a math problem to be solved in the most ass manner possible.

[@surferdude4487]

@@silverblade357 When all they can see is the balance on the ledger at the end of the day, it will lead to disastrously bad decisions. That IT guy that's making more than minimum wage knows every bit of equipment and software that's keeping your business running. Replace him with a guy fresh out of high-school and see how long before your network goes down or you lose your server and there aren't any backups because nobody told the drone to do it.

[@19godfather93]

Forget new owners, even the new generation MBA hotshot who gets to take over as the Managing Director with fuck all experience of being an employee or a manager, do effectively the same thing. They don't treat and appraise loyal, hardworking and brilliant employees well, so they leave in droves, replaced by entry - mid level guys. Out of sheer momentum the company runs well, heck, it even grows for many quarters, years. Of course, the implementation of modern systems does add real efficiency into the org, so that too has its impact. But by the time that momentum is gone and the systemic improvements are internalised, the key folks who made shit happen are gone. What's left behind are all those pencil pushers, who can give the appearance of a lot happening but nothing ever happens on the ground. They're adept at bringing up dependencies and challenge areas, which they heroically volunteer to resolve, of course engaging them completely for the next 6 months. Once all of this has eaten the company from within like termites, it all collapses one fine day, with the local banks and supply chain holding worthless IOUs.

[@Zalibidas]

@@surferdude4487 these must be the "IT" i sometimes have to help for other companies at work who can't even install a driver...

[@MrHouse93]

And the first story is exactly why USA companies that tries to handle things themselves in Europe have a real hard time. We actually have laws protecting workers

[@notabannedaccount8362]

You should outsource to the US. Our workers aren’t as spoiled.

[@jgraaay18]

@@notabannedaccount8362 You spell 'Our workers have a severe case of Stockholm Syndrome' funny

[@notabannedaccount8362]

@@jgraaay18 Tomato tomahtoe.

[@faithlesshound5621]

That was one of the problems Walmart had when they tried to set up in Germany. The executives flown over from the US tried to act as if they were in the US. In the USA, all 50 states have their own employment laws. Why would they think that Germany would not have its own?

[@notabannedaccount8362]

@@faithlesshound5621 Workers should be grateful their low skill life is worth any money.

[@D3sdinova]

I used to work at a restaurant that got taken over, but the cooks were understaffed. There were three experienced cooks and a new one still learning. They could either hire me on permanently or not renew my contract, they chose the latter. Which resulted in another employee quitting on the spot, and two of the experienced cooks to quit like a week later. Leaving them with only one with not much experience. Many more followed, and what was once the second best restaurant in the country of its kind is now one of the worst. When i came to bring in my clothes i was also asked if i wanted to return 🤣 Me and one of the other cooks also almost always filled in for the other two, so that was instantly gone too.

[@merlinathrawes746]

Redundancy story: I think they made the wrong people redundant. German termination story: As much as I hate to say it, even some otherwise very well-educated American people forget that when dealing with foreign countries, you also have to deal with the laws of those countries, that American law just doesn't apply. Still, a higher-up in a multi-national corporation should KNOW this stuff. Last story: It's amazing how greed will overcome business sense. Had the new boss not been greedy, the business could have lasted and improved with a little work. New boss wanted a cash cow and didn't realize she was killing the cow.

[@AB-ou8ve]

Americans “don’t” forget anything, they just think the world is their own Disneyland.

[@Syrph.]

Worked at a place 16 years under 3 different owners. It was a small business, understaffed, low pay...anyway... We did lots of different things from screenprinting, laser/rotary engraving, embroidery, along with being a retail store. And I was the only one that knew how to do all of them and also the one that fixed things, self-trained but got by. They always bought old equipment. So... My grandfather passes. This hit me pretty hard so I'm out a few days. Not the busiest time of year and I'd still answer calls and try to walk people through things. Shouldn't have been a big deal. I returned to a normal schedule but a week or so later get sick and call out for 2 days. The owner, who is also a preacher, calls me and yells that I've had enough time to grieve and if I wasn't back the next day I was fired. I was pissed. At the time I was staying with a co-worker because my house was flooded out, they knew how sick I was. Nope, didn't go back. They shut down about a year later after buying new equipment because they couldn't fix the old stuff but still had nobody that could run them right. Got a job making more with far less stress. Don't anger the person that keeps your business afloat. Oh, when I said old equipment... They bought a laser engraver that used parallel ports for US$11k. A brand new one would have been less. Two of the four embroidery machines only used floppy disks. They bought all of that in 2013.

[@zebra00024]

You could buy their old "broken" equipment and started your own thing.

[@Syrph.]

@@zebra00024 I had thought about it but was never paid enough to afford it anyway. I was barely above minimum wage even after 16 years.

[@zebra00024]

@@Syrph. That's sad. However you don't have to use your own money, though. I bet some rich guy would like to invest into opportunities, giving you share and leading role if that business was profitable.

[@morpheoss]

That last story reminds me of my time working at McDonald's for $10/h as a manager. I did everything for that company. Out of the 14 stores our owner owned I was the most qualified and certified I would be sent to other stores to train people or fix issues. But they hated me. I never got the Christmas bonus or amusement park tickets like everyone else that was a manager I would constantly be told to do the most mundane things like taking out the trash or doing the dishes or scrubbing this and that. No I don't mind doing those things but I was literally the only one of the managers doing normal crew person work. But still expected to do my manager stuff. When other managers quit or left they were given going away parties. The day that I quit was the happiest day ever I gave a 3 week notice because I was leaving the state I was moving somewhere else because of a new job opportunity. They were so angry I didn't get the going away party and after a week they told me to leave as they didn't want to give me any more hours unless I was willing to drive to one of the other stores 70 miles away. I was like well I guess I'm leaving early f*** off. Flicked her off called her a b**** and a few other things I've always wanted to say to her. And I left the store happy as a bird singing a song. The ice cream machine stayed broken for 6 months after I left because I was the only one who knew how to fix it lol. Turns out they never cleaned it

[@KatManchester]

*I didn't know that any McDonald's machinery was ever SUPPOSED to be cleaned. I haven't been to one since 1983.*

[@seminolewind158]

Dude you crit me with a wall of text.

[@kos2919]

It's always hilarious to see KFC and McD in USA are WORSE than their Asian branches. There's countless videos of American tourists going to Asian McD or KFC and mindblown by the cleanliness and the food quality.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Karen in the 2nd story learned, the hard way, that "if it ain't broken, don't fix it."

[@creepynoone7437]

Nah. I'd be willing to bet that she didn't learn a thing. After all, you can't fix stupid.

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

i think that's story 3...

[@soultpp]

@@sheilaolfieway1885 Kinda, but actually listed as Story 2 since the '2nd' story was technically just a comment posted on the first story. @DarkEinherjar In this case the quote should be, "If it ain't broke, don't break it!"

[@UKMonkey]

"She paid for every member in the office to have a spa day except for me" - and that is when you get your lawyer involved again - and ask them about bullying in the office and hostile work environments.

[@nicholerubes2959]

On second story. My mom went through this. They too thought of quote "cheaper" ways to run a bussiness. Only those cheaper ways cost more than the old ways. Losing customers and people who knew how the bussiness worked.

[@Elberto71]

My UK employer changed my contract months after i signed it in order to avoid paying me some overtime. Always ask for a duplicate signed copy.

[@lancerevell5979]

Story two.... Increased prices with reduced quality... Ah yes, typical when beancounters take over a business. In my six decades, I've seen it happen many times. Including in my state IT career. 😮

[@xyshomavazax]

I was let go from a job 15 years ago. I asked to cash out about a month of unused vacation time, which was refused. I asked if their unemployment insurance would go up, and what that would cost them, and the CFO returned a figure three times what I made in a month. I offered to resign - which would waive my unemployment eligibility and save them the insurance cost - for a month’s salary, and he put a check in my hand _so_ fast …

[@mjjoe76]

US employees read stories like the first one and die a little inside.

[@RunnyBabbitMom]

Yeah. Here they can fire you on the spot for something as simple as they don't like your shirt. I had a boss fire me for insubordination, we arrived to work wearing the same shirt, she told me to go home and change because she couldn't twin with a lower level employee. I thought she was joking and laughed, half an hour later she cashed me to get office and fired me, I had to sign the paperwork and wrote in what her definition of insubordination is. I loved the unemployment but I seriously doubt that would happen in Australia or Germany.

[@SuperCleopatrajones]

It's gotten so bad, at my last job, they need corporate's permission to fire you because they can't trust management 😒

[@TQFMTradingStrategies]

We’re dying for labor in the US depending on the industry and region. You’d have to like physically assault a client to get me to fire you these days lol.

[@quietman3473]

Right? Small businesses will treat you like gold right now. Corporate is still full of BS. That Which Shan't be Named killed most of the small businesses though. I hear middle management complaining about labor on the regular, yet they keep treating people the same and can't figure out why they keep losing them. It is wild to me. I never had a problem keeping people on a lawn crew. Finding people that were right for the job was a task, but once found it wasn't hard to keep them. That was in the before times though.

[@senjoronie3971]

@@quietman3473 "Small businesses will treat you like gold" but pay you in peanuts. Sound about right? "BuT eVeRyOnE hErE iS LiKe FaMiLy" so I guess it's ok.

[@deuceforhire]

Imagine having employee rights *laughs in American

[@saurianwatcher4437]

Laughs until crying

[@davido.1233]

The first story can be exemplified and summed up with a single line of dialogue from one of my favorite Television characters of all time... "Ah, arrogance and stupidity, all in the same package. How efficient of you." - Londo Molari, Babylon 5: In the Beginning.

[@RavingRozeComms]

And I immediately am reminded of another of his lines that might be applicable: "Vir, intelligence has nothing to do with politics!"

[@TheBlackSeraph]

Sadly it seems a lot of American multinationals think that local laws don't apply to them.

[@s.h.6858]

B5 was a great show (last season wasn't my favorite). It's so nice to hear that it's remembered by others, too!

[@jgraaay18]

@@TheBlackSeraph Seems so, but it's so fun to watch them wreck themselves! Walmart's failed expansion into Germany comes to mind, or Toys 'R Us in Sweden.

[@formes2388]

@@jgraaay18 Well ya, those companies basically require trash work conditions and local pay rates to be profitable.

[@ITeachRick]

How do you get a Karen to be an owner of a million dollar company???? Put her in charge of a multi million dollar company and wait…………..

[@bgtechno93]

I was owned a final payoff from PTO and should have received a physical check. I did received a check but that check was on my employers desk, who I left the job 2 weeks ago. They never bothered to call me or make arrangements for me to get my check. It was almost like they thought I would forget about it. All the friendships and pretend" your valuable here" got thrown out the window. Luckily I know people who worked for the company who told me that they do this all the time thinking people will forget about it. So I texted my now ex boss, came to my previous job, got my check, spoke with my freinds from work and left with my $5,000 check . My boss was there but i ignored him. Best day of my life leaving that horrible place 😂😅

[@catherinehubbard1167]

The usual pattern is that the boss tries to get the long-time, competent worker to train her/his young, cheap replacement before being fired. After all, a few quick pointers will be enough for the replacement to learn everything they learned over years, right?

[@silverflight01]

Story 1: Well, they didn't give OP a redundancy letter initially, so that was on them. Well, OP gets a nice cash bonus so that's something

[@TheBlackSeraph]

Don't fuck with Australian labour laws. It seems that the US is terrible when it comes to workplace relations compared to other countries, but Australia's history is based on unionism.

[@robo08ify]

@@TheBlackSeraphYeah, US unions for the most part are good but there are a lot that are in the corporate pockets and are all but useless.

[@bradwolf07]

​@@TheBlackSeraph How does Australia's employment laws compare to the UK's? After all, the CEO and the smaller team was based out of there.

[@adafrost6276]

@@TheBlackSeraph US labor laws are lacking on a lot of fronts, however when it comes to termination, they will come down on employers pretty hard for violating the protections we do have. In the case of story 1, the WARN act requires 60-day written notice of a location shutting down if the company has at least 100 people (which it seems like this one did if they just added 30 new people the year before). It wouldn't guarantee the additional severance pay but it would have given him a paycheck for 2 months straight in this scenario.

[@ricksaburai]

The guy even said how it "wasn't fair". It's not fair to do everything by the letter?

[@weldabar]

Many of us have experienced the new dog (manager/owner) who deliberately takes a dump (figuratively) at everyone's desk in order to establish dominance -- when they have no clue about the work the company does.

[@MrGoesBoom]

Oh yeah, nothing like a new manager that decides they're gonna change how things are done ( sometimes little things, sometimes big things, sometimes everything ) and then when things no longer work as well as they used to and/or employees are unable to meet their numbers it's always their fault, it's not the new manager's methods!

[@donwall9632]

Haha yes, new owner knows nothing about the business and then loses all the good staff and then has to sell it as a loss... Looking at you KBM New Zealand

[@ZeketheZealot]

Op1 earned that CFO’s eternal respect

[@brendanboomhour7606]

Karen didn't run that business into the ground, she ran it far past that

[@bleachfan2.029]

She piled drived it into the ground 😂

[@sallys2423]

LMAO!

[@michaelmoran2125]

Seen it more than a few times from ppl trying to outsource and automate

[@lulolie]

Drilled it into hell 😂

[@bleachfan2.029]

@@lulolie I wonder if she hit oil on the way down 😂

[@MattBotor]

Employment laws are strict in Hungary also. If dear Murican boss showed up to fire people effective immediately, then by law since the reason given was not "employee fault", they would need to pay everyone fired an extra month of pay. This is because employees are legally required to give one month notice and employers are required to pay that one month off if the firing is effective immediately, essentially holding both workers and bosses to the same standards. Unless specifically agreed upon something else by both parties in writing.

[@phasepanther4423]

I'd have told the customers that knew me that the new owner tried to fire me whilst lying. And that I would be leaving soon. That they can continue with them if they wish.

[@BritInvLvr]

My mom worked for Robinsons (dept store in the west coast) for many years. May Co bought them and soon all the senior workers who had built a decent salary and earned vacation days were let go. My mom was one of the few long timers. She retired early before she was fired. But May Co also no longer exists.

[@silverblade357]

I can practically guarantee the Karen Owner didn't buy that company with her own money.

[@Aderon]

The Karen in the second story really needs to learn to not drop a dollar to pick up a penny.

[@Weaseldog2001]

I've been in the bungy boss game a few times. Once I recognize this is happening, I know I'm a short timer. Eventually I'll get a boss of the month that thinks that he can save his job by firing me. Every single time, the company calls and begs me to come back, after I'm already hired elsewhere.

[@Nyperold018]

S1: "Nah, I wouldn't want it 'misunderstood' that I left before I was allowed. Even though you're telling me, other people might not know that. So I can afford to burn the final 15 minutes here."

[@Dravianpn02]

Did this when they fired me for my hair being too long at Oncue a few years ago before anything was finalized. After they tried meeting me in the front room and calling HR in public about it. It was a whole debacle. They eventually changed policy after I was terminated but not due to my termination. It was a year later and someone else had long hair and they were native and that's what did it.

[@Daikamaitachi]

Story 2, I'd speak to a lawyer about the owner telling other businesses about that. C&D immediately because if OP had decided to stay in the industry, that COULD have hurt their chances.

[@lisagress5009]

I love hearing that employees stand up to bosses! Oh my gosh I had a couple of bosses that were just downright mean to me. I worked at a hallmark gift store, and the sweetest older couple sold the store. A small but beautiful store in a Plaza. The rule was, as I was told, if a customer needs help, you don't point... you take the key out of register and physically show them. The new owners, after one hour of me being there, threw me up against the wall, I had bruises on my back and nail marks on my arm and bleeding. They gave me the riot act and called me a stupid American and that I needed to follow their rules. Since they aren't from the US and they own me now. I grabbed my purse from the back room and just left! I walked to my managers house and she saw what they did to me. She went in the next day, and they did worse to her, and she walked out too. Horrible people!! On a good note, we did find out that they wanted us gone, had their family working there, and not one customer would go in there again. 6 months later, they were bankrupt and lost the store. Karma is a b****, and they got theirs! Looking back, I should have reported them. I was newly married and naive thinking I had no recourse at 18. This was 1982. I'm just glad that they got their karma in the end! Many years later, I had the best bosses. They took me on like family. It just goes to show you that not everyone is evil and good people and bosses exist!

[@sjsimom2]

That's f up. Your old manager should have at least had them arrested for outright assault 😢

[@ipodman1910]

Were they Chinese?

[@jameswilliams3241]

I worked in construction for most of my life after leaving the military. As an active union member I realized early on that if you want to really screw the Bosses ,do exactly what they tell you to do!

[@franktuckwell196]

I worked for a firm for 10 years, then after a row about how i did a particular job, then not how, but when, then eventually, they made me redundant, but promised me a glowing letter of commendation to my next employer, but they even managed to spell my name wrongly. I got the job despite their efforts and i learnt later on, that after i left that particular block failed and shut down.

[@sittingstill3578]

Story 2 sounds like what will happen at my current job. The boss is bringing in cronies from their previous location and stripping benefits from long time employees. They are destroying the relationships with the employees to who actually make this place run well all to save a few cents to hit performance metrics. The mismanagement is being noticed by the customers too as there has already been a sharp decline in sales.

[@cesarpanda]

KNOW YOUR RIGHTS, EMPLOYEES. You have no idea how many times this has come in handy. Most employers don't gift away stuff, they're just doing what's necessary under law. So many times people is so thankful for their bosses doing what's required for them by law. A friend told me how everyone would be terminated with a letter in his workplace and he was called to have a meeting with a lawyer present only because he was studying a degree that included Labor Law. These laws exist for you, and they only care of them to prevent legal issues.

[@ACE7F22]

Hmm, buying a business to completely ruin it. Sounds familiar. 🐦☠️

[@duncanirvine4657]

"Take over a successful business and run it into the ground like that" Anyone else immediately think of Kathleen Kennedy and Star Wars? Or was that just me...???

[@alantran4901]

Story 2: The owner biggest mistake is breaking the rule 'If it ain't broke don't fix it'.

[@AutisticMorty]

To a multinational company, a month of your extra pay is nothing. It's less than the CEO makes in one day.

[@pw6002]

Don’t forget, folks: In most companies, the boss is the least useful part. In most companies, the removal of the boss will be the removal with the least impact on the company’s productivity and usual functioning.

[@FranciscoTChavez]

And, yet, removal/replacement of the boss is what led to the removal of all the useful workers and a bunch of other costly mistakes. From what I’ve seen, a good boss can make quite the difference in making sure the company’s workers have the things they need to be effective at their jobs. But, a bad boss will just get in the way, making things worse.

[@jorenvanderark3567]

​​@@FranciscoTChavez The best quality in a good boss is that you don't notice them.

[@FranciscoTChavez]

@@jorenvanderark3567 that's true of a lot of things that are essential, but that's not always true about bosses. A bad boss can sell out the company and not have anyone notice until it's too late.

[@CameronHuff]

I love hearing about how American bosses and managers (who think employees should be slaves) lose big time when they go to countries that have laws that actually protect the employees.

[@gecko2.617]

If you are buying a company, because it works well and makes money, firing everyone who makes it work is allready stupid but then trying to get rid of the most important employee by making up stupid claims and loosing even more money ... yeah that business owner should not be an Employer...

[@harrysachz6748]

The lawyer from Story 1 probably had a heart attack when he found out he was going to represent every employee. 🤑💰

[@charimonfanboy]

More like tapdancing on the tables. He does a thorough job once then carefully copy-pastes the results with everyone else. Whether it's a fee from everyone or a percentage of the payout equalling redundancy pay from every employee of the company for little more than the workload of one case, he's making bank on that one.

[@willem1642]

I am always amazed that American workers accept the poor working conditions compared with the rest of the western world.

[@joehung1552]

Because the morons here worship Ronald Reagan and Reaganomics.

[@ChristophBrinkmann]

Unfortunately, most of us don't have a choice. Our elected leaders refuse to do anything

[@faithlesshound5621]

@@ChristophBrinkmann American workers elect their legislators, who are then bribed by the employers to do their bidding. That's why employment law favours owners over employees.

[@noneck3099]

@@ChristophBrinkmann ...2nd amendment is a waste of time then?

[@dougr8646]

Bro get some skills and you'll get a great job bc they're competitive. Stop asking daddy goverment to do everything for you

[@am80ma]

story 1 - i wouldn't call it incompetence but greedy... and it bit them back in the butt... it's like OP said, they conveniently "forgot" to issue the redundancy package letter in hopes of OP quitting before the date so they could save money, that's why the CFO was holding back his laughter because he knew this "cost saving" method they tried on OP had backfired on them.

[@miet5224]

I got 5months severance as i was coming back from maternity leave to a new UK boss. They had so little success/results to show she couldn’t let me get up to speed gradually, after a massive PPD situation brought on by my son being a 32w premie on top of a concussion. They knew it would go very bad in court and PR wise, so they gave me an offer i couldn’t refuse.

[@SouthSideChiTown]

Man you have a gift for telling stories on your channel. Your cadence, diction, and general vocal demeanor are truly unique.

[@davidlean8674]

On the last story. It may not be that this new Owner was sleazy, as she was incompetent & then desperate. Unlike the prior owner she needed to borrow a lot to buy the business. The intention that she could repay the loan using cashflow from the business. However, she failed to realise that a business has "12 months of expenses each year but only 10 months of revenue". Slang for public holidays, staff holidays, sick leave, & other expenses that impact cashflow. Thus she panicked that she couldn't meet the loan interest & other business expenses with a dwindling cashflow. So she looked at her biggest expense line. Which is often wages, especially in a service business. rookie mistake. If trained right your employees ARE the company. They are your goodwill. oopsie.

[@tmntfangirl4700]

I love listening to these when I’m at the gym

[@NicholasGeschke]

Story 1. Way to go OP! Way to fight the system using their own flaws against them.

[@1SuperD1]

I love when the good guys win. These businesses and people in power treat people so bad. It’s good to know that sometimes there’s a happy ending.

[@laris2328]

The last story. I hope that the customers need to file a class action lawsuit.

[@Try2-Imagine]

This is what they wish they did

[@DarthRane113]

Lol what really gets me is this is called "malicious compliance" while all this is, is employees knowing their rights

[@RonnyAndersson-q9b]

This is very common. It's their loss. These CEOs cost companies billions of dollars each year.

[@nathanbrady8529]

I get I don't have an MBA from Harvard, but I just don't understand this modern business practice of not wanting repeat customers.

[@BerryTheBnnuy]

I've held employers, landlords, etc over the fire when it comes to the law and/or contracts. They complain "it's not fair". When ever I hear that I say "that is the price of doing business in a capitalist economic system." and just smile

[@MrCyru24]

This reminds me of my friend that worked admin at one of the big six banks, he went on a 2 week holiday during that time his entire team was let go but he kept getting paid this lasted for 3 years until someone in HR complained he wasn’t taking annual leave and he got his P45 in the post

[@KieranFitness-h8t]

Story 2 has been on this channel at least three times now…

[@joehung1552]

Same with the first one.

[@sabrinastratton1991]

I hadn't heard them yet

[@ChristophBrinkmann]

Both are new for me. What videos did they originally appear in?

[@pleappleappleap]

I'm a fat, bearded guy who loves spa days.

[@SimonTay]

Replace Karen label with someone you know...hehe that guy who bought the social media...heh.

[@ipodman1910]

You’re a halfbrain… the guy who bought social media got rid of all the lazy and useless leeches not key employees- proof - the social media keeps operating like nothing happened, halfbrain!

[@TheAneova]

happy thirsty thursday, have some water, eat something good, and have a great day.

[@1SuperD1]

The last story is amazing. I can relate so much. One person can ruin entire business. I have never seen it on that scale but I have seen people ruin things on a smaller scale. Every time I see a store close I just assume there was that one person who ruined everything. The one thing these people have in common is they always treat everyone like crap. People are the most important part of every business and some people forget that.

[@MajinK]

Story 2: First off, i love stories like this. It sucks for the employees affected, but in the long run the one who causes the problems end up eating sh*t on a golden platter and wonder what went wrong. Second, what is this business? I wanna look it up and see

[@ziggygunz2447]

I thought for sure in that first one there was going to be one last hail Mary where OP leaving before the end of the day somehow invalidates the contract or some sleazy crap lol

[@benmilburn5949]

I adore malicious compliance.

[@flybywire5866]

Greed comes with a very high price tag.

[@TheBallingers3]

Last story- it’s amazing how expensive cheap employees are.

[@irkalla100]

That first story!!! Instant classic! Wooooooow that was beautiful!

[@OublietteTight]

Super simple parallel... New owners of a Dairy Queen renewed the leased to my teacher. For years, he had given giant amounts of ice cream on each cone and made mad money. The owners refused to renew his lease, ran the location themselves... they got skimpy with the portions. They lost their shirts.

[@waxingaphasic5248]

That's labor power demonstrated in the single individual. A rare and satisfying treat. What we need in addition to this is labor power in the collective. Many together have power just as many sticks bound together cannot be broken.

[@seanraby7479]

An "act of god" clause? How is that a thing?

[@FranciscoTChavez]

I think it depends on the type of work that’s being done for the client and the contract. Shit does happen, but simply cancelling an order due to lack of skilled workers and refusing to refund the client isn’t the kind of shit that falls under an “act of god”. I’m pretty sure it does fall under “fraud” and “scam”, so some of those clients probably reported the company to some kind of government agency. And, if the product was really expensive, then those clients probably took legal action.

[@catprog]

For things like massive weather disasters not for cancling orders.

[@ar471]

S1- Doesn’t this mean one of the employee’s “friends” told management about the new job opportunity?

[@dzerkle]

Some stories on Reddit are true. The last one doesn’t sound like one of them.

[@rokpodlogar6062]

Don't think for a minute, that worker rights laws will save your employment. You can get fired in so many creative ways for that single thing a law defends you, it's almost a cliché. Even in Europe.

[@nycbearff]

If you keep good records, and keep all of your interactions with your boss and HR in writing (or use followup emails like "this is just to confirm what we discussed today") then a labor lawyer most definitely can help you if you're fired unjustly or treated illegally. Know your rights, and you can win against lying employers. A labor lawyer can legally get records, copies of emails, all kinds of things from the employer - you're really NOT at the employer's mercy.

[@Mombasa2k3]

That second 1 😂 sweet justice

[@Danceofmasks]

Just grab the fraudulent papers they tried to make you sign, and say (with a massive shit eating grin), "I'll be calling a lawyer. And the cops."

[@kjara42]

Honestly, in the third story, the new boss sneaking in the way she did was a huge red flag. It was not upfront and dishonest. I would have started looking for a new job then

[@SquirrelGamez]

That first story is absolute gold.

[@morepoppunkthanpizza]

yeah i had a similar story to the first, got a 2 months pay while i relaxed at home before starting my new role. The reason? They didn't want me to tell my colleagues that i got offered more than double the going rate in the company as they didn't want to lose their workers.

[@kayleebrasseaux4736]

Hello fluffies! How is everyone doing today?

[@Koji-Alistair]

😗😗😗

[@Koji-Alistair]

😗😗😗

[@Koji-Alistair]

😗😗😗

[@ingamelevi1929]

Story 2: I would love to have been one of those employees who got to sue for wrongful termination and negligence (or the German equivalent). Up to two years pay? Yeah, I'd take a vacation before finding new work too.

[@IkethRacing]

The last story makes me think there was something wrong with making money with that branch since he sold it and new owner tried cutting costs. Maybe the customers were part of the problem?

[@rachelmoore1974]

STORY 2: If the new owner had just kept things the way they were she'd have had a longstanding business and made a good profit. Instead, her business tanked, she's gonna end up bankrupt and with a bad reputation in the community. Think she's happy with her cost-cutting measures?

[@Onyx-Rose150]

That was a CFO that told them not to count on OP resigning, but got over ruled.

[@Terrorrai1]

story 2: "act of god" that's high praise for a business owner who just fired you like she was divine herself

[@kiracaroso]

Story 2: Just because you have the dollars to buy something does not mean you have the sense to run it.

[@aperkins07]

Why would you tell someone you're moving to about to take another job without securing it?

[@ewanfraser]

“I kept this quiet telling only a few people at work” so not quiet at all.