r/Maliciouscompliance "Sue Me!" "Sure." "NO WAIT!"

[@Mewse1203]

I can't find it, but some business dude wrote a piece basically called "Not all Theft is equal". It was talking about how if you steal $100 from your employer, you could end up in jail, but a company could steal millions from employees and sometimes not even be made to pay it back.

[@fdm2155]

Uh, yeah, when companies like Bain Capital were buying majority stakes in companies with the express intention of selling off all the valuable assets to make a quick buck for themselves and get favorable tax treatment for their loot, they also often raided employee pension funds! Employees had no recourse.

[@yumimakai]

Yeah it's pretty shit to be honest. When covid started, the company my husband worked for reduced everyone's pay to a third of their og salary and said we'd get all back in increments after Covid. They also said they would understand if people had to quit, and that if they did, they would get all their missing money in one lump check after quitting. Naturally we couldn't afford it for long, so my husband found a even better paying job and quit. When he asked how long it would take for the (I kept track) nearly $12k we were owed would show up, they said they somehow legally changed their contract without having to notify anyone that actually, if you quit, you get none of it back, and legally there was nothing we could do. We even checked with a lawyer. Based on what a friend has stated who still works there, even though more than half the crew left, they STILL haven't paid anyone back or returned checks to normal, even though their business is back to normal.

[@4Astaroth]

@@fdm2155 Sounds like the shady "Treuhand" deals during the 90s when companies bought the East German companies just to let them die. Also there was a situation in germany when politicians made a rule that companies get their taxes back (the politicians thought the companies would do it in a 10 year period) and where shocked when these companies wanted their money in the same year all at once.

[@RedT...TheOriginal.NotANumber]

Not just businesses. The government, specifically the IRS, is just as bad. If you owe taxes, they want it NOW. And you'll be charged fines or late fees if you don't shell out. But if THEY owe YOU money... well, that's a different story. The check is in the mail. Or will be. Eventually. Interest? No thank you, we don't have to pay you any interest.

[@derkylos]

@@RedT...TheOriginal.NotANumber You, the taxpayer, owe us, the government, money. We WON'T tell you how much, but if you don't pay us enough, we WILL arrest you. Also, if you pay us too much, that's a "you problem"...

[@dracko158]

Company: *"PERHAPS YOU SHOULD TAKE US TO COURT IF YOU CAN'T BE PATIENT! GOODBYE!"* OP: *Actually does it, shocker* Company: *"You weren't supposed to do that."*

[@freezeman3332]

Ikr like people are so dumb they ask people to do something as a threat/insult and are actually shocked when they do that. Facepalm moment 🤦‍♂️

[@fanfictiondreamer7836]

It's amazing how people like this could shoot themselves in the foot and be shocked that it hurts.

[@antonyduhamel1166]

I like to think, at the bottom of the complaint/subpoena they sent to the company, they had a little picture of Yugi Moto and the words "You've activated my trap card!" written on it.

[@fdm2155]

LOL, that smart ass employee no doubt figure 'court' meant hiring an expensive attorney and that OP wouldn't be able to afford that. Whoops!

[@fanfictiondreamer7836]

@@antonyduhamel1166 Yes!!! That's perfect!!! Let rSlash know about this!!!

[@morgandouglas6014]

You would think the threat of quitting would get that boss to change their tone, but no. Now they’re down one employee who has likely left for a better job all because they didn’t want to pay OP for their holiday PTO that was getting ready to expire.

[@Richard_Nickerson]

"ItS uP tO tHe EmPlOyEe tO mAnAgE tHeIr TiMe!" And when you can just veto every request? Eff off, bossman.

[@Ryanthusar]

What annoys me with those stories is that the OPs never bother complaining above their direct boss' head or go to HR.

[@rickhernandez7666]

@@Ryanthusar Going to HR is useless. Human Resources is not concerned at all about the employee's welfare - they're concerned about the employees' effect on the company. If the company has a policy that's not in the employee's favor, the employee has no recourse through HR.

[@gerrard1144]

Company: IF YOU WANT US TO DO IT, TAKE US TO COURT THEN!!! OP: *does it* Company: *PANIK SCREAMING*

[@cierrabradley2839]

Extra lose 🤣🤣

[@kairinase]

To think they could have settled everything at a Food Court, or a Tennis Court, instead of the Court of Law.

[@fdm2155]

Yeah, that's almost certainly because they knew their 'policy' would not hold up in ANY court. This is why people hate corporations. Why are you screwing people over AFTER they've made good on what they owed?

[@Richard_Nickerson]

Panic*

[@TBaker-xu5is]

Another case of "be careful what you ask for, you might get it."

[@marissaworsham3062]

In the story about the real estate company: that debt NEVER belonged to OP. That debt was SOLELY the responsibility of the abusive ex. I'm sorry that OP had to shoulder that burden. And I applaud OP for their grace through that whole process and their leaving the abusive ex. I hope life had been kinder to you since then.

[@danielh6015]

Disagree. Both names on lease. It doesn’t matter who actually broke the wall . She shouldn’t be responsible for more than half

[@Chuckf66]

I know exactly which real estate this is. These arseholes tried to evict me when, after 12 years in the same property and being an ideal tenant, my landlord refused to deal with the appalling black mould that had infested everything I possessed. 2 years later & I'm still having issues, despite QCAT ruling in my favour & ordering both landlord & agent to rectify all problems.

[@marissaworsham3062]

@@danielh6015 Legally, OP may be liable but morally, that asshat was the responsible party and should have paid the total debt. Seriously, I don't know how you didn't understand that that was what I was saying.

[@starquaked]

Same thing happened to me now I owe 5 grand don’t know what to do lol

[@CryptKeepHer]

@@danielh6015 found the abusive ex

[@cardinalchaos2278]

It’s a point of arrogance. The agency thinks such things are beneath them, get mad when challenged, and subsequently do dumb things in response to being challenged.

[@JennyEverywhere]

On the last story. You missed the point, Rslash. The real estate agency has a policy of sticking it to people who get on the TICA list. It's clear that they disagree with the RTA taking people off, probably because tenants that do bad things to property reflect badly on the real estate agency who sent them. "Don't take any tenants from Fred's Realty, they're usually destructive." It's not fair and it's utterly wrong, but if the agency puts people BACK on the list when they'd timed off it or made restitution, they never had any intention of letting OP off. All their "you just need to be patient" noise was just that -- noise. I would have started recording my calls after the first time they added another week, waiting for them to get snarky about it. I would have had that recording to add to the evidence in court.

[@romeunleashed2]

The issue is the story doesn't mention that to be put onto the black list the agency has to tell you why and where and if they do it without your knowledge or falsely then well lets just say that agency is fucked.

[@littlesongbird1]

The problem with recording calls is that some states require you to get consent of both parties. I am glad the op in that story got their justice and it does bother me that literally the agency was not doing their job. I work in insurance and sometimes we have to take other insurance companies to court because they won't pay out on claims where our driver is not at fault.

[@kellywaters643]

@@littlesongbird1 yeah, for that reason, I prefer actual writing

[@kellywaters643]

I've found that, over the last 6 months of daily viewing, rslash is naive, uninformed, and inexperienced with several topics. good entertainment though

[@richardabreu1468]

@@kellywaters643 well he just got a kid so he's peobably young and his work is KZbin which narrows down his experience with the world since he spends most of his time at home.

[@Ivorila]

It’s funny when people say “sue me” but then act shocked when u do so

[@someguy7629]

Same back in school with my bully. He said punch me, so i did. Left him with a big bloody nose and crying on the cold stone floor. He left me alone after that.

[@daydreamz618]

They always expect the person to not have enough money to file the lawsuit, or be too inexperienced with the legal system to know where to start. Double if theyre the one screwing them out of legal fees (employer, real estate agency who has you on a tennant blacklist potentially keeping you on the street, etc)

[@Ivorila]

omg i cant believe that its already been 2 years since my comment@@daydreamz618

[@FreyaofCerberus]

It took me way too long to realize you were using "Townsville" as a non-descript placeholder rather than the very real city of Townsville, Queensland. Then the next story was about QLD, weird synchronicity.

[@harleybaker]

God that place is a shit hole. And i lived in rocky so i know shitholes haha.

[@HairyHariyama]

I thought he chose "Townsville" as a Powerpuff Girls reference.

[@vanessasorensen4994]

Australia has some wild town names.

[@lostbutfreesoul]

Same!

[@ohnosmoarlulcatz]

It's always a risk vs reward thing. People will usually agree to pay rather than take things to court due to time and costs of doing so. And if it does come to court, it's usually down to a settlement rather than an actual trial. Sadly, this is usually the norm and recently, the fake bills and threats being sent out by some companies are done to exploit this fact.

[@carrias1]

My letting agency doesn’t contact you to book a gas safety certificate, they send a legal threat saying that if you don’t respond to the contacts they didn’t send they’ll sue you. We think it’s so that they can get all the gas safety inspections done every 14 months instead of the legally required 12

[@_heyjoow]

The last story: they wanted to keep OP handcuffed to them. It’s just a power move on the weak side of the story.

[@grubbs517]

"... let's EXTRA lose and pay THOUSANDS..." Classic

[@aaronscrewface]

4:19 Ahhhhhhhhh Rogers. They are about as useless as a one-legged cat trying to bury a turd on a frozen pond.

[@LuckyStalag13]

They're also ridiculously expensive. My rural carrier charges half of what Rogers would for the same service.

[@meganfenton856]

That's oddly specific... Have you run across this scenario before?

[@shannonp1656]

When I moved I phoned to cancel cable. The provider of course said I could move my service. It's not available in my new city. "We're available everywhere." They are not available in my city and they did allow cancellation of service, but not without some run around. There was only one cable/phone/internet provider in the city I moved to.

[@dashiellgillingham4579]

The United States has a serious brain hole on internet access. If even a single house in a postal code has telephone or internet or hi-speed internet or whatever then the entire postal code is considered to have internet. Less than a twentieth of the United States has even one bar of wireless. Everyone with power over said issue is fucking crazy.

[@viandcupcait]

"Losing was already free!" - Rslash 2021

[@SmilingKratosTheGodOfWar]

The last story reminds me of the jailhouse that spent $30,000 fighting an inmate's lawsuit because he was allergic to the jail's blanket. In the end they still didn't give him a blanket.

[@kristenthansfhziplt9willia323]

As a Canadaian, I totally hear the lady about Rogers. They suck and dont listen to their customers. Glad it cost them.

[@fdm2155]

This is exactly the problem with monopolies or near monopolies. They tend to operate as if they are above the law AND certainly don't give a damn about customers.

[@1bendykat]

The second story - in the US, I moved from Chicago to Arizona about five years ago. The cable-internet company that I had was Comcast, which didn’t have any service in the area I moved to. So I cancelled and sent any all materials back. The next month, I was moved to my new place, but I got charged for my own service (and my new). So I called and after explaining the issue, and they voided the charge and said they’d cancelled the service. Three months later, this was still happening every month. I finally told the call center person: “it’s not anything you did wrong but this keeps happening and I have the feeling that this might be beyond a level 1’s permissions. Can I speak to your manager, please?” Magically, that resolved the issue.

[@RisingRevengeance]

I don't really see why they would bother with all that just to keep one person on that list. Like does it even matter to them? Do they profit from having her on it?

[@TheWolfie234]

Possibly a power trip...

[@valornthered]

I think they consider it future-proofing. They keep you on that list to have reason to deny renting to you in the future because they consider you a risk to their properties, especially in the case of damage that exceeds the deposit because there's no guarantee you'll actually pay that debt.

[@RisingRevengeance]

@@valornthered But they aren't the ones renting out right? Or am I missing something?

[@fdm2155]

I'm guessing this is a draconian policy some jackass executive instituted because 'those people' will never rent from us again. They assumed most people would not be as persistent as OP. Clearly the 'call us in a week' line was an attempt to appear as if they were following the law while ignoring the law.

[@SoManyRandomRamblings]

@@RisingRevengeance in quite a few areas (especially cities) most rentals are through real estate agencies nowadays. Even properties owned by private individuals, since the agencies will deal with many of the hassles for them like background/credit checks, evictions, and showing the properties. In many places owners prefer to pay an agency to deal with all that for them. So even though the real estate agency may not be specifically the ones renting to people every time, they might still have to deal with the situation anyways. Plus depending on local laws the actual owners might be able to seek damages from the real estate agency if they allowed someone known for causing damages to rent. So it could be them covering their own butts, or they could be dominating the entire local market there.

[@JJSijbesma]

I was sure it was going to be "due to my partners explosive and violent [diarrhea] we were handed an eviction notice."

[@maralorca6518]

🤣

[@DragonstoneWolfe]

That would of been hilarious. 😂🤣😂🤣

[@Nickwilde7755]

NOWS YOUR CHANCE TO BE A [[diarrhea]]!

[@darksheikgaming]

For the last story, those were agents of the agency, not lawyers. In small claims court you are not required to have lawyers, plus the story even said they were agency agents, not lawyers.

[@marjoriejohnston4905]

That jerk ex should have paid for everything, after all, the damage was his fault

[@joeschmo622]

"Oh yeah? Take us to court, haha!" "Okay." [surprised Pinkachu face]

[@jonny62ezyyy16]

Maliciouscompliance 101: When the teacher says “Do you want to share your conversation with the class” and you say “ok so what happened was…”

[@opalla5289]

I'm in highschool my bus comes early and listening to Rslash while I walk from my house to the bus stop (a dirt road that has no lights) keeps me from getting paranoid.

[@optimalmammal6674]

Same, don't have the problem about dirt roads but just had police pull over and drug test everyone at my stop lol

[@ellen2805]

@@optimalmammal6674 Wow things have changed since I was in high school as we never got drug tested while waiting for the bus.

[@MrMikeT89]

@@optimalmammal6674 If this is true you should get a lawyer. They need a warrant unless it's done voluntarily. I doubt you would volunteer to get tested

[@mrn234]

@@MrMikeT89 Lol here in germany they dont drug test you randomly at all especially not people at a bus stop

[@MrMikeT89]

@@mrn234 I assumed the comment came from someone in the US. Police overreach is serious. I got pulled over 3 times and detained because I was a "white guy in a black honda." Thats nothing compared to what others experience, especially those of color, so just trying to look out for others as much as I can

[@Nerobyrne]

"Losing was already free, but you decided to extra-lose" is my new favourite sentence

[@johncarlortiz2672]

Malicious compliance in one sentence: "Hold on this hole operation was your idea"

[@chriscarpenter3370]

love how quickly malicious compliance can backfire XD

[@aeonvalley8589]

Daily reminder that you are loved and appreciated even if you don’t know it

[@womp2376]

You too! I hope you know that I am proud of you for being able to do the things you are doing!

[@somebodywhocares6615]

Thank you!

[@womp2376]

@@somebodywhocares6615 no problem!! Remember that any accomplishment is worth celebrating! It doesn't matter how small it is!

[@harleybaker]

Aww thats so sweet, ill tell the women in my basement someome apreciates me. They sure dont.

[@shebakoby]

i think the last story was a simple matter of "we have to justify keeping lawyers on the payroll, so let's have make-work for them". Only, it went further than they intended.

[@jesstreloar7706]

Wage theft is the largest crime in the United States.

[@Siinwu]

The sad reality is, there is laws/rules for the rich and one for the rest, guess who the law favors most times?

[@sourisvoleur4854]

The rich can afford to buy legislators. The rest of us, not so much. One reason we need unions.

[@liab5078]

I’m listening to this while getting ready for my first job. thanks for calming me down:)

[@chriscarpenter3370]

good luck!

[@liab5078]

@@chriscarpenter3370 thank u!

[@chriscarpenter3370]

@@liab5078 no problem (:

[@GeekBot404]

when corporate says “Sue Me”

[@jefffoo6891]

Day 321 of telling him he's making everyone day better

[@aeonvalley8589]

Day one of saying that you’re awesome :)

[@HiverCru]

Thank you for your service ❤

[@chriscarpenter3370]

I salute you soldier

[@jefffoo6891]

@@chriscarpenter3370 :)

[@jefffoo6891]

@@aeonvalley8589 :>

[@richewilson6394]

Why go for $35? I calculate all the time wasted on waiting for them to act, emotional damages, the damage to my credit history into the amount owed.

[@romeunleashed2]

Its not real it would be a tribunal problem not court problem. They have mixed Australian and American law stuff. Lol

[@richewilson6394]

Still I go as far as could to make them regret it. Not just for $35?

[@romeunleashed2]

@@richewilson6394 Assuming it is real they wouldn't of been able to get anymore then the court fee and the name taken off. She would of been told they where being put onto the blacklist and why before being put on the blacklist. If they did it without her knowledge then she could go for damage and so on.

[@RiptoGakt]

I'd have taken that $35 and multiplied it by however long it took to get to this point, at the bare minimum. Besides, those chumps were the ones who decided to be a-hats for such a dumb reason in the first place and all they had to do was, you know, do their f***ing job.

[@m2pt5]

"We're right, and we will spend as much money as it takes to prove it, even if being wrong would have cost us a pittance."

[@naomi8681]

I’m glad I’m not in school so I can watch this 😩

[@Ryanthusar]

You know what pisses me off the most with a lot of work related stores is that the OP of the story NEVER EVER mentions that they took their grievance to their boss' boss or to HR. There is a chain of command for a reason people yet you seem to be afraid to use it and would rather do something which could have been resolved in moments.

[@GeekChicPolitiq]

'No! Let's EXTRA lose!' cracked me up

[@nila309]

R Slash- “No! Let’s extra lose!” 🤣

[@EclipseHighroller]

Whenever I hear “you should read your contract” I get the popcorn ready

[@TheDarkLink7]

The last story. Man...... that definitely is an awesome result.

[@alexskywalker5478]

These are awesome to listen to. Also thank you for the timestamps. I zoned out during the last story near the beginning and was like "oh no, I gotta rewind. Maybe there are timestamps?" and there was, so thank you

[@xebolous]

Real Estate Company: Can't wait, sue me! Op: I'm gonna do what's called a pro gamer move.

[@13BGunBunny]

_Always_ read a rental contract before you sign and take note of anything out of the ordinary.

[@TheHastySlowpoke]

I think I used to work for the same employer as the first guy, let me just say, they are worse than you’d think.

[@ltmad1284]

I'm a fellow Queenslander, the real estate blacklist is only supposed to keep you name on the record for 4 years so them having you for 7+ is ridiculous

[@PureShadowAS]

I haven't listened to these videos in almost a year, so its good to know that it's just as good as I remember.

[@legojenn]

I have seen so many of these stories read by RSlash about people risking losing holiday pay if they aren't used by a certain day. As far as I am concerned, paid days off are part of the compensation package. They aren't provided from the generousity of the employer. If people can't carry days then they should be paid out. How do employers get away with it?

[@littlesongbird1]

I think because of what happens when people bank too many holiday pay days. I work for a company where we can only roll over 5 days a year but I used to work for a company that let you bank all of your days (no cap). So what happened with some of the more tenured employees is that when they do they were going to quit they would use 3 months of pto time and then come back and give notice. My step mom did a similar thing when she worked for the SSA. She had about 50 days of vacation time she never used so she technically was retired for 50 days (not working) because of that before they officially gave her her last paycheck and she could draw on her pension. One thing that always upset me about sick days is when I would have to callout sick. I had some managers who try to guilt me or pressure me to come to work even when I had a doctor's note. I am so glad that now a) I have a boss that is amazing and b) my company has a "call out line" where we call and leave a message and a processing team notifies our employer that we are out sick that day.

[@joeschmo622]

"Oh, it's not a good time to take 'vacation'." Rinse, repeat. I once "banked up" over a month of time that couldn't be rolled over. I was begging for backup so I'd be able to take it, but no joy. I finally just "announced" (didn't ask) that I'd be taking off pretty much all of December and part of November so I wouldn't lose any time. Got backup pretty much within a few days that I trained in time for me to take that "vacation". (Firing me, at least that year, would've been Really Stupid on their part.)

[@75ur15]

Two thoughts, it's the contract you agree to, also, if you wait until the last possible moment to take it, and are denied once, that isn't necessarily fair to the company either. The company I work for is busy the Christmas season all through the end of January....good luck getting time off before the reset in February..(we used to have use or lose, few years back it changed to keep 80 payout the rest) if you asked for January off it would be swiftly denied for most (unless very short) and I wouldn't blame them.

[@joeschmo622]

@@75ur15 In my case, I absolutely WAS asking for a week here and there since June or so. We "converted" a lot of fixed holidays (mostly religious) to vacation days, so people who wanted Passover or Ramadan or Denali(?) could take whatever suited them, so now I had 5wks vacation and needed to burn off at least 5, counting the 1wk rolled over from the prior year. Again, due date for this here, deadline for this there, always "not a good time to take off", when I was TRYING to "budget" my time, but wasn't allowed to. A former cow-orker had to eat a few weeks(!) vacation for the same reason. I told him he was crazy for not just taking the time regardless. So apparently it happens pretty often, and companies get away with it.

[@75ur15]

@@joeschmo622 you in my statement was also referring as an example to the video, where the op I'm the video did wait until the last possible time to ask for it. I also have no doubt that some employers do take advantage not just of their employees, but the contract and all laws they can bend to profit.

[@JayeEllis]

Time theft is one of, if not the singular, biggest problems in the corporate world.

[@michalparacka281]

This reminds me of the time Michael Scott ran over Meredith in The Office. As Michael said: "So what if I have flaws? Sometimes I sing in the shower, sometimes I spend too much time volunteering, sometimes I run over people... so, sue me. Wait no, don't do that, that's the opposite of the point I'm trying to make."

[@orangekayak78]

Statute of limitations on actual crimes is 7 years. And in this case the debt was payed.

[@soupafi]

I would have loved to see the surprised pikachu face when they were served papers.

[@justkibby5959]

Real estate agency power trip. For sure.

[@Jmac1962]

"Extra-lose" ROFL love it.

[@rafaeterna1081]

My guess, the administrator is the owner of the company and the sue is bluffing. And they go to court to get ego boost.

[@lesleykruijt8580]

The best advise my mom ever gave me was "know what you sign" that means not only reading it, but understanding it, knowing how it applies, the works. If you have questions, ask them. Either to the person giving you the contract or someone your trust. Have someone else read it, if you will! As soon as you sign something you agree to all of it, no matter what. Because you agreed to it in writing. Know. What. You. Are. Consenting. To. Edit: as seen in 1st story, its the easiest and best revenge. You can screw them using their own words 😇

[@readysetsleep]

Where I live in the USA, a business has to be represented by a lawyer for any court case. Learned it the hard way showed up to court with proof of a repair. Only to be told I can't represent myself since the building was in Corp ownership, not personal like a home.

[@sirdeakia]

The farm dude lost a golden opportunity to force the company to install infrastructure JUST for his farm.

[@Neezy-JD]

NO! Let's Extra lose! DYING LAUGHING

[@Heather_A1]

OP should have added $500 for pain and suffering for the stress they had to put up with while the realty company was basing so malicious. I am not one for a litigious society but this one needed to send a message to the jerks for all the other former tenants that they have done this to.

[@captainhoratiobungleiii7147]

I can't believe the real estate agency dragged their heels when it would have been reeeeally bad PR for them if it got to the local press. "Victim of domestic abuse made homeless by local firm" is an incredibly bad look.

[@susancooper2885]

I really miss puppy bloopers.

[@taylorfrazier8549]

New lexicon added to my vocabulary “extra-lose”. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Hum4n1ty_]

Have a fine Wednesday everyone!

[@omegacyborg]

this Subreddit has taught me that if I ever get a contract to Read it and reread it so I don't screw myself over THEN if a Boss says "Read your Contract" then you better do it because you'll always win!

[@Ragehunger]

There's only one answer to the last post: The entire agency consists of bullies who are either so confident in their psychological manipulation that they think everybody is too gullible to take any legal actions against them, or that if they ever get dragged into a lawsuit they expect the defendants to lack the evidence they need to win the case. I hope OP goes far and wide to smear their reputation too, so that they will lose tenants and hopefully drop revenue so hard that they have to shut down their business. They have no reason or right to play around with people like that.

[@condorboss3339]

The Rental Agency story: Doesn't Australia have a Limitation Statute?

[@lmaree200886]

Australian statute of limitations is 6 years

[@SatoshiKenji]

Some call center only had information about the service their company provides and not knowing the actual challenges on providing those services. 2nd Story is a perfect example to that.

[@thunderflare59]

I would have gotten a lawyer just to force them to pay more. It's an easy win and lawyers love that.

[@nekosimp7751]

yeah but the losing side doesnt always have to pay the legal fees, so it could cost op more then its worth.

[@SilentSam69]

As a Former Rogers client? I can personally attest to the hardships and hair pulling that is their "Customer Service". If you have a choice between dealing with them to get service, or by using Shit as a phone or Internet service? Go with the Shit. It’s easier to deal with, and far less messy to clean up.

[@Its-Quirky]

And here I thought my landlord was bad.

[@carrias1]

Corporate “no housing for you” lists are hellish

[@danielh6015]

Rslash, there are no lawyers allowed in small claims court . Not saying lawyers weren’t involved, but the two guys that showed up weren’t lawyers

[@littlesongbird1]

Depends on the situation. I work in insurance and if someone tries to sue our policy holder for a claim we denied because we ruled our driver was not liable, we do send attorneys to defend them.

[@danielh6015]

@@littlesongbird1 interesting, I thought lawyers weren’t allowed at small claims. It becomes unfair to have a Lawyer fight a civilian

[@SevCaswell]

The last story about the real estate company just goes to prove that companies like this don't believe that certain people deserve to have a safe roof over their heads.

[@sourisvoleur4854]

They don't give a wet fart as long as they keep their obscene profits.

[@Janenba]

3rd story, you said landlord, but the landlord's only part in this was transferring debt to a debt collector. The TICA list is a list made by a collective of realtors from what I understand so they have a do not rent/sell list.

[@jasonrashid1027]

It wasn't exactly them paying op $35 to spend on the wine. She was being reimbursed. So it's pretty much her paying for her wine

[@SuperZeeZee123]

The city of Townsville... is experiencing Malicious Compliance!

[@Caroline.123]

They were not lawyers they were Agents real estate agents. In Australia no lawyers needed in small claims. Didnt cost them anything except the petrol to get there.

[@gregoryk.9815]

Going to prison does not end your contract and you still have the pay for it.

[@tinawitte420]

11:24 ... or 3) just remove her from that TICA list the moment she paid her share

[@JbearTheHappyPanda]

That debt collection agency sounds exactly like the one I used to work for. The owner was a massive grunt.

[@uthmanbaksh3530]

Re: Take me to Court Jerks know how to waste money. They could have just gotten the necessary paperwork together and removed OP of the tenant blacklist and spend next to no money to do that. But no, they had to be jerks by taunting OP to sue them and so she did and won. The jerks wound up not only losing time but also tons of money and they still had to do the stuff they were supposed to for OP. For once, the debt collectors were not the bad guys!

[@TheJege12]

MMMMM that wine comment at the end of the last story, hell yeah xD And man that company was just absolutely idiotic!

[@redtheded5332]

The first story where OP wanted to take three weeks but was denied/was refused of their vacation time is like getting into a pool and not get wet. Like, how was OP supposed to fulfil their vacation time before April when their request was denied/refused?

[@fdm2155]

No doubt manager thought they had OP over a barrel and they could screw him out of three paychecks. They thought wrong! 😁😁

[@liquerinfrnt]

1st story- reminder that wage theft in the US is more than all other forms of theft combined

[@KristianParsons]

In the last story the OP is talking about two real estate agents going to court, not two lawyers.

[@ikefignewton9304]

This really says a lot of our society.

[@huflungpu4456]

Loser pays. Justice prevails. It needs to be more prevalent

[@dixietenbroeck8717]

REAL ESTATE COMPANY: You neglected to mention, but in the writing *THEY RE-LISTED HER - "DOUBLE JEOPARDY" STYLE!* BAD PEOPLE!

[@brandonscottsanchez]

You know Rodgers would’ve just replied, “Awesome, we have many service providers in prison!” Which may be true considering the stuff smuggled in to a place of punishment.

[@Hallumi]

can confirm the real-estate game in QLD is a joke. I had bad run ins with a landlord who thought he had overlord rights to my ability to exist and made threats that id never rent in QLD again when I had to take him to court. never had any issues after that though.

[@benniwest]

For the first story that's insane, I worked call centre many moons ago before I worked hospitality but if you had holiday left over at the end of year it's illegal not to pay you or give you the time. Usually you just take the money but it's law

[@MykusMcChrist]

I have a feeling I know the real estate mentioned in the last entry. Pretty sure their name rhymes with Day Night. Had my own dramas with them in the past but the last time I dealt with them (last year) I went full nuclear deterrent. My rental property-to-be was still occupied when I inspected it, so all the damage was covered. Place looked good initially, but once it was empty I could see how bad it was. Gaps in the brickwork going straight to outdoors (in a bedroom), an un-lockable downstairs window for easy break-ins, loose and damaged lino floor tiles being held down with masking tape, paint flakes falling from the ceiling over the stove, sunken flooring, a taped up hole in the wall, litter left on top of the shower, hundreds of small marks and stains on the walls, missing keys for locks, a raw-cut open hole in the downstairs ceiling with plumbing sticking out of it, I could go on. I took hundreds of photos and spent the whole of the next day writing up an email after finding out my options via the RTA. I knew that if I didn't include every detail, the real estate would try to hang me for anything in this house they could pin on me when I left, so I wasn't going to give them the chance. By midnight next day I was done and sent them my notice of intent to leave (citing unlivable conditions, using exact wording from RTA rulings on viable reasons for early lease breakage with zero penalties) and attached a link to my hundreds of photos as evidence, including my immensely thorough entry report. Took the real estate just over 24hrs to get back to me. They let me know that they had spoken to the owner and he had agreed to let me go, refunding me fully, as I clearly wouldn't be happy living there. Much to my amusement they wouldn't agree that the conditions were unlivable, but it turned out that they hadn't inspected the property between tenants so had no idea how bad it was (also probably some legal stance about admittance of culpability or something). I found out it stayed empty for months before being sold. Haven't had a peek at the house since to see if it's still standing yet. A friend of mine said it sounded like they were using something called positive gearing on this property, basically involving doing little to nothing to improve or repair conditions and relying on the good school catchment area to give families no choice but to just deal with it. What a shame for them that it was a single guy with no kids and somewhere safe to store his things between moving and cool-headed people to help him, because there are others less fortunate with families and more to lose. They would've had a much harder time than me through this. I was fully prepared to take them to court but I had made it not-so-subtly clear that they wouldn't be able to win if they dug their heels in. Anyway that's the story of my shortest rental occupancy. 2 whole days, and my furniture didn't even leave the storage unit.

[@agilagilsen8714]

The one thing I never get with these stories is how the person writing is ALWAYS one of the best if not the best employee. As if people who are just middle of the road cannot quit their jobs.

[@JoB1019]

Nah, if the internet provider could technically provide service to the prison location even if OP couldn't use it there, OP would probably still be stuck in her contract. Sooooo... maybe OP should've said she was moving to the South Pole to do Penguin mating research?

[@calyodelphi124]

In regard to the second story, it's not because the company made a stupid decision to spend WAY more to lose, legally, than they would have spent being graceful and taking OP's name off the blacklist. It's because the company is vindictive, and uses its profits and power to bully and abuse former renters who ordinarily don't have the time, money, willpower, or receipts, to be able to fight them properly. The company legit thought that it could score a vindictive win against OP. The point is to be vindictive.

[@CountryHotStuff]

Story 1: I had something similar with my previous store manager. Now I'm going to start off saying I'm in no way irreplaceable and I know that, but I am a good working show up for my shifts do my job and have never had any major problems. I'm a LSA at my place of work, during my first year the manager transferred to another store which lead to the Assistant Manager to replace him and they had drastically different styles. My first manger did what he could to help us out, we were always understaffed and overworked but he was right there beside us. She on the other hand treated us as replaceable drones and that our entire lives needed to revolve around the store and that our lives didn't matter (she actually told me this once). Now I actually trained her but she had worked there as manager when it first opened back in the 90s so she had the experience and nobody wanted the job but she did like to tell me that I was never allowed to leave because I knew to much. Well because we were understaffed and my position she wouldn't let me take time off, I had begged for close to eight months for just four consecutive days off which many other got. She would say no because they were SA while I was a lead so I was required to be there. Well on my one year anniversary I was called for Jury Duty she tried to tell me that she wasn't sure she could give it to me because she didn't have anyone to work that day. I told her I have to go by law and wasn't coming in even if she scheduled me (please note that I had never missed a shift in the year I worked most weeks close to 40 or over 5-6 days). It was one of my days off that week the other being a dentist appointment that had been approved for months that she also tried to take from me. So a week or so after my one year my Old Manager was helping out at the store and we were talking and I mentioned to him how I had Jury Duty and all my vacation hours I was still trying to use. He then tells me that I lost my vacation hours because I didn't use them and I was to get paid for my Jury Duty both which shocked me. When I brought it up to the Manager she told me that the Jury Duty was my day off and I wasn't at work and she didn't know about my losing my hours and didn't know what to do about it. Now there was quite a bit of back and forth over quite a bit of time while she "worked on getting it resolved" finally after getting my Old Manager and the DM involved I said if I didn't get paid for both the JD and the vacation hours that I tried to use multiple time and was denied I would quit. In the end I got both but I did end up quitting because after watching the crew get replaced multiple time and her not learning and continuously treating me like dirt I put my two weeks in, she tried to gaslight me and then guilt me when that didn't work. Never tried to get me to stay to told me straight out that I had no reason to stay she had nothing to give me and nothing would change we had talked multiply times before and she repeatedly told me that thing would "get better when they settle down and get a full staff". It was like two days before I was to leave when my Old Manager called me and asked me if I wanted to work at his store. He asked me what it would take and I gave him a few demands, nothing drastic just longer shifts because it was a bit of a drive some consistency in my schedule because my father's disabled and I help my parents and that I wanted a few weeks off before I started. He said it sounded fine and he would see me at the end of the month. I've been there for about six months and it's great, sure there are still problems but nothing that makes me dread going to work or cause me to hyperventilate in the middle of the store (my coworker was able to help me she told me it was most likely a panic attack).

[@justtrouble1040]

“Prison”. HA HA HA HAAA! Good morning, Dabney.