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@SamAalen Жыл бұрын
Hi Wing, I would like to talk about the point of salary as a motivation to pursue medicine. First let's look from a broader perspective, why do the top students from HK and Japan cluster together to rush into medicine, while the top students from mainland China of much higher caliber instead choose other fields (pure science, finance, IT) that are not medicine? Have you thought about why, when a major difference lies in the pay of physicians in the two groups? Second, the argument of "If you want to earn money you better study finance. The pay does not justify the numerous exams and long working hours" is not very solid. It is a commonly thrown out argument by many HK medical professors in their admission talks, yet rarely sustained with solid proof and evidence. It is a means to keep themselves on the moral high ground, something to isolate themselves from the potential motivation of money. Let's look at the reality, HK physician has an average monthly salary of 60-120k HKD. On the other hand, not everyone in finance makes that much money. Only a select few can get into top-tier investment banks and even within them you need certain years of experience to reach the level of 60-120k HKD. Most ibankers rarely have a salary exceeding 80k HKD. Now, the majority of finance graduates will have a salary fluctuating around 20k HKD, and it takes years of climbing of corporate ladder to reach 40k. A director with a lot of years of experience, qualifications, networking connections commanding a large group of employees and having a ton of responsibilities, of a regular mid-large company only makes slightly over 100k usually, and many do not make over 80k. While new medical graduate can easily make an amount close to that, and in years especially with specialization can get over a director's pay. Furthermore, the working hours in finance is by no means any better than in medicine. There are top firms that follow the 996 routine, there are ones in HK that have OT even worse than 996. Not to mention you face huge pressure and tight schedules, these are not any better than medicine especially if you work at an ibank. The pressure placed upon doctors also depends a lot on their specialty, the private and public sector, and their reputation. You would not expect a senior private plastic surgeon in HK earning > 3m HKD annually to have higher working pressure than a public hospital ER physician or a typical ibanker. To think finance is a better money-maker than medicine is in itself a delusion and a good way to bypass any moral condemnation associated with pursuing medicine due to money. This is not to say you or every medical student jumps into the field with money as the main motivator, but I doubt you can simply dismiss it as a major factor.
@cathytang8422 Жыл бұрын
I think you have misinterpreted what she has said. I don't think she has ever mentioned "If you want to earn money you better study finance. The pay does not justify the numerous exams and long working hours" in this video as well. She means if the salary is the ONLY motivation, medicine is definitely not an option. Salary is always a concern for pursuing any field undeniably. Yet, it is difficult to withstand the pressure of taking medicine and becoming a doctor if you are not interested in and dedicated to medicine. It takes so much time and effort than any other occupation to be qualified. Also, being a doctor is not only a high-paying job when human lives are at stake. Therefore, salary can be one of the major factors but cannot be the only factor for pursuing medicine. Of course, I do believe that some people do pursue medicine just due to salary. Yet, it is not recommended.
@yifanfeng195 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with the facts you've presented about salaries in the Finance industry. That's the truth we're facing with. I was shocked to see how much more money a junior medicine grad could make compared to a finacne grad.
@SamAalen Жыл бұрын
@@cathytang8422 Salary being the "ONLY motivation" to pursue any type of advanced study is an extremely strong (in the logical sense) condition. To satisfy the "ONLY"ness is almost impossible as I highly doubt anyone would have it as the "ONLY" motivation without trying to blend in any extra motivation, whether in a genuine or a morally comforting way. Hence, if you were indeed to impose the "ONLY"ness which is a close to impossible condition then of course you would be in a very safe position unable to be argued against at all as the condition is very rare and would almost never come true to lead to the violation of the advice you would then be suggesting. Furthermore, in the video she never said "ONLY" in the salary section. I am also sure that contextually, the audience are not caring about this "ONLY"ness strong logical condition case, but a broader picture of whether salary is a major factor in the consideration. A more down-to-earth consideration for the general public would be "Did my doctor trying to treat me become a doctor with money as a big motivating factor? If the pay was no more than that of the mainland China average, would they still be willing to dedicate themselves out of the noble ideal of saving lives to study medicine?" rather than "Did my doctor become a doctor ONLY because of money?". Instead of copy-and-pasting what numerous medical professors in HK have said in admission talks, she could have definitely addressed this point better. Every field has their own pressure, but to think the pressure faced by top finance people is less than by physicians is a strong indicator of negligence to what the financial industry is really about.
@y001536 Жыл бұрын
Ah Wing is only a medical student. She does not really know she would actually do when she really becomes a doctor. She has not even been paid once as a student! I think her point was, no body whose family is already rich would spend years studying just to be a doctor, because after all, a doctor earns money from working, and no one becomes really rich from selling their time to earn a salary. You see the tycoons and the super rich in Hong Kong. Their kids do not go to medical school and become a doctor or a professor. Why? That is because, to them, it is not worth the time! I think for the poorer kids with the ability, it would be a good profession to earn a decent living, even better than working in finance. But to really be rich, do not become a doctor or a banker; start your own business like Li Ka Shing or Jack Ma, or work your self to power like John Lee Ka-chiu who did not need to study as hard as a doctor but did definitely earn more than most doctors. As for the salary problem, I do think that medicine is currently the only profession that provides monetary rewards to those with the ability to study. That is why most students who study well go for medicine in Hong Kong. For other professions like mathematics or sciences, they really take talent and hard work to do well. Although they are important, no body in a free market will pay you money for basic research. You are doing it for pure interest and discovery. On the other hand, medicine has this aspect of science. But in a capitalist system only some humans have money. And only the expert who studies and cures human diseases get the pay, while those who can cure other animals and plants do not. Is a hard to study the pathology or plants and ants? Absolutely. But you will not make a lot of money to be able to cure plants and ants, because they do not have money! Also there are people in Africa who get malaria or night blindness from vitamin A deficiency. But since they do not have money, they do not get cured! This is also a problem of capitalism: talents work towards satisfying the needs of those who have money. You see those who cure the disease of the rich get significantly more pay: a cardiologist who treat the rich with coronary artery disease who have a fatty diet earn more than an infectious disease expert. This is a problem of capitalism. As for whether medical work is really hard, actually in real life most doctors only know their own field of practice. And most don't need to stand in the operating theatre for 8 hours except for the surgeons. Doctors can do a variety of work. For example, a pathologist only need to sit down for 8 hours a day looking at the pathological slides and write pathological reports. General practitioners only sit down and see patients in a clinic and refer those patients when necessary. After final MBBS exam, many GPs do not need to take another exam for the rest of their career. There is a choice for your life style after you graduate. You can choose a hectic life and be fully immersed into the medical field or you can be a little bit more laid back and have more life outside of medicine.
@YI-iq5rt Жыл бұрын
Honestly the fact that she mentions salary as a motivation factor so publicly here is already quite uncommon