R vs Python for Data Science

[@TheCareerForce]

What primary language do you use or want to learn?

[@CARVDK]

I'm learning R. Great video!!!

[@chriswayneecf9236]

Use whatever the people in your office use. Better to keep the tech stack small. When in doubt, use python because it's more popular. Python will be dead in 10 years but it's all the rage for now.

[@simplelearning7540]

"R"

[@rickyricardo75]

It's not correct when you say Python is more focused on software programing than Data Science. Python is "clearly", I mean by far the most used programing language in ML and AI which is the basis in DS in 2020. Now, R and Matlab are trying to survive to Python. In fact Matlab is dying...

[@TheCareerForce]

Python _IS_ a general purpose programming language. That's it's background and it's still used heavily for that. That doesn't mean it's bad for data science/analytics though. It should be clear if you watch the whole video that Python is an excellent choice for data science and the option I think is right for a lot of people.

[@naveenkumarY]

10:40

[@fernandoortegaalvarado3205]

Thanks

[@BiP00]

Hehehe, nice

[@datacorda]

thanx man

[@Noah-pg5ig]

👑

[@AmandaFreitas1998]

Thanks, that saves much time

[@jayjay2158]

Thanks for this video ... I am currently learning R.. I feel I enjoy it more as it fairly easy to understand ... maybe it is because R was the first programming Language I started learning .. Also in terms of Open CV ,CNN (Convolutional Neural Network) and Image recognition...I think python is the better choice for me. On the other hand in terms of core statistical analysis which involves EDA (Exploratory Data Analysis) and building ML (Machine Learning) models I prefer using R .

[@paulntalo1425]

Am a java programmer just beginning to branch out into data science and analytics. Madam so just so honest and truthful. I have searched d internet but no one gives clear cut advise to beginners. I have always been torn out on which of the two languages R and python to learn but now you have given me the correct answer. I had already started on R but now I realise the industry you choose to program for determines the language to first start out with and master b4 moving to another. Thanks

[@preside4745]

Hi. Is it ok to only learn and concentrate on python Pandas for Data Analysis?

[@leaderemad]

I'm learning Python now, because I have some programming background. I'm still in the beginning but I can say it's super easy

[@Blodia1990]

And super POWERFUL. I love R as well, especially. Learning them both is pretty sexy though :)

[@DataAnalyticsIreland]

Yeah it super easy all right, really like the support, and the amount of libraries available is really good for a lot of different functionality that people may require.

[@benayawilly6536]

If i don't have programming skill, more appropriate to learn R or Python?

[@thanhbuixuan6580]

Thank you for this video. I think another factor we should consider is availability of learning sources around us. Since I study in Medicine, R is more common and there are many videos providing statistical knowledge along with practical R code in both textbook & paper to reproduce. => Having R would be a better choice for me at the moment. But Python & SAS would definitely be in my future list.

[@huangjames8130]

I was and I am learning R 'cause of my economics degree AND I recommend python really. I love R language (most 'cause of being lazy to learn others);however my job is asking me to master python. Even though R has many cool packages like AER or uqr, the truth is that not only is python much more friendly for programmers but also it doesn't need such advance statistic models in business. In real business (at least in mine), managers value a model that can predict rather than explain and that is why ML and python dominate industries. (I do not mean all MLs' parameters can not be explained but it's an undoubted fact that MLs are relatively black-box than traditional statistic models)

[@bolaowoade]

Continuing from my previous comment, if your goal is to become a data scientist or analyst then maybe python might be a natural chocie, but if you want to learn data analyst skills to apply to your current job then I believe R may be a better choice. Since R was built mainly to analyse data, it does not necessarily require you to be a good programmer. You can use the manay packages available to get the job done. I work in HR as a learning and development professional and i love using R to analyse training data.

[@michelexiong]

Hi Mobolaji! I am currently a graduate student in industrial-organizational psychology and am debating whether or not to start an edX or Coursera certification on data science with R. Right now my current career interest is people analytics. Could you please give me more insight as to whether I should or shouldn't take this route and how beneficial and advantageous learning a program like R would prove to be?

[@chriswayneecf9236]

Honestly I prefer Udacity. Georgia Tech literally uses Udacity to administer their MS of CS. Which language to learn is kind of a dumb question. Focus on statistical and data concepts rather than code. Flip a coin for R vs Python (Anaconda) and whatever you get learn it extremely well. Build a useful portfolio project that you love to talk about, and that other people besides you find helpful. No employer is going to reject you because you picked the wrong one. You're finding the choice hard because it just. doesn't. matter.

[@walexia]

You don't have to be good at programming to learn python, that's why its so popular, try it, you will suprise yourself

[@derrickgamaliel5428]

It was really explicit to decide which one to choose. Since I was in tow mind between the two. But, since I am in the beginner in programming, I will go for Phyton

[@richangell3850]

Great video, thanks for summarizing both languages well. In my first quarter of my Data Science program, I am taking a class in each.

[@mrsteam5515]

I have a good background in SQL and beginners knowledge in R. However I will be learning Python extensively as I think it is a better choice since it's used in most companies.

[@DataAnalyticsIreland]

Good idea, R is still good for the statistical programs, but it misses the graphical user interfaces that python has!

[@alvaropabon2870]

@@DataAnalyticsIreland This is not true

[@erikasuzuki480]

Learn Python, period. Not only you can do data science stuff but you can also do web development to present your data and make it interactive.

[@erikasuzuki480]

You can also do web scraping, API requests, and use countless databases to output your data.

[@bendirval3612]

What people don't mention is that the data science side of python is pretty much run in pandas and/or numpy, which depart significantly from the usual way you interact with data in basic python. Python is a scalar language, not a vector language like R. These packages force that round peg into a square hole, in some cases quite awkwardly. For that reason, data science in python is not so obvious and easy to learn as basic python is.

[@chacmool2581]

R or Python It's not an either-or. It's both. That's right. Your competition in the job market will be people who are proficient in both. And frankly speaking, any competent Data Scientist should know both.

[@DataAnalyticsIreland]

Great explanation and walk through of the different options. Python has a lot more advantages than R, but R great for the statistical side ,so should be used more if just looking for that. One thing Python great for is the graphical user interfaces, can help rolling out data analytics applications in an organisation!

[@dank6223]

Hi, thanks for the helpful recommendation. I would like to ask you a question about an "absolute" beginner to learn Python. I've done a few introductory courses at datacamp, and 1) I keep forgetting commends (although I review them a lot of times.) and 2) even if I remember stuff, I don't really know what to do with them. I take memos on things I understand, but I don't think I am getting a "picture" of stuff I learn. I do not know whether this problem is because I am just not a "data science" guy or because I am missing an important step or way to study at datacamp. I keep proceeding the courses according to their career track now with patience, hoping that I will be able to truly "see" and "use" what I learn at some point, but I really don't know whether I should do so. Could you give me an advice regarding to my problem? Thanks!

[@stanford19]

Thank you for this. I was actually learning both in parallel, but what you said about becoming a master is true. I was mastering both and it was taking time, but I will focus on Python (emboldened by your verdict as well as my own preference for Python. It's just so beautiful as a language, and it makes so much sense, the way the built it. I just wish I could use Pycharm to do everything data science, because right now the Jupyter notebook plugin is a Pro feature, sigh.) Thank you once more! EDIT: I will check through your videos for this but just in case you haven't done a video on it: What are the tools that you recommend learning for corporate work (I am graduate) that I would most likely have to use as a Data Scientist in a company? ( I am currently using Spyder, but I don't imagine this is the actual tool? It seems lightweight even though it's great...)

[@miad973]

Hi Jan! Thanks for these valuable information that you keep doing. I am interested in learning SAS since my speciality in Healthcare, from your experience, do I need to be expert in SAS to land a job as Healthcare data analyst or the basic is enough for me since I have experience in SQL, R, and some Python?

[@TheCareerForce]

Basic knowledge is a good start. Your SQL knowledge will transfer well to SAS. You'll still want to build up your skills over time. It can raise concerns when you use a little bit of a lot of languages and not much of any one (jack of all trades / master of none) so be aware of that as you continue building skills.

[@miad973]

@@TheCareerForce thank you for the valuable advice.

[@icalkp]

yes datacamp is absolutely an amazing place to learn those languages

[@bolaowoade]

I think it depends on what you are learning the language for. I don't necessarily think python is better than R for data science. What's driven is popularity is a number of things. To start with it is a general purpose language which means it's much more known and popular than R. To start with it is now used to teach beginner programming courses in secondary schools, colleges and universities. The reason is the fact that many people who would have gone in to computer science are not moving in to data science type roles. There is a higher probability that they would have come acroos python and it would be a natural language for them to learn. And because python is a general purpose language then it's easier to build prodfuction ready systems and companies are going to generally prefer it.

[@hanhngo2355]

I really love the way you explain. Thank you for your advice.

[@enriquevillagomez4700]

Thanks for your vídeos and your recomendations. Aldo I'd like wonder you what kind of programming lenguage do you recommend me if I'm starting as an intern in BI and I want to focus my professional career on BI and OR?

[@TheCareerForce]

Python is more dominant than R for that. You might also want to learn SQL. There's a lot of variety on the BI side depending on the specific company you're working for.

[@davidlanier7006]

I took a semester of Python in college. You mentioned SAS, what exactly is that? I've heard of it before but I have no idea what it is or how it's used. Is it a type of software or a programming language?

[@TheCareerForce]

SAS is a programming language focused on analytics, and they are also a software. They have options that range from a purely coding interface to dashboard tools similar to Tableau to options that let you do more complicated queries with a minimal knowledge of programming. The language itself is closest to SQL. They're not open source and can be quite expensive which is part of the reason that they aren't as dominate across the board. They have some fantastic tools though. SAS is the language I know the best and there tools are very well executed.

[@davidlanier7006]

@@TheCareerForce so I just can't go on Amazon and order a SAS programming book? You're saying I probably need to learn it in college? I already have a masters in business, do I need to learn SAS at the graduate school level? I had a database design class in college using Access with just a little SQL. I've read a basic book on SQL but I've never used it a lot on a database. I'm sorry about all the questions but I'm trying to figure out the direction I want and need to go with all of this.

[@TheCareerForce]

@@davidlanier7006 You can still learn SAS outside of a school environment. They even offer some training free on their website (plus more in depth classes). They have a free edition for learners here: www.sas.com/en_us/software/university-edition.html I mentioned the cost because it impacts the industries they're in and makes the training options more limited. You can absolutely learn it outside of college setting though. You'll see the language itself often referred to as Base SAS.

[@erikasuzuki480]

@@TheCareerForce Companies like mine are leaning away from using SAS. I just migrated a SAS code to Python recently, and now we don't have to pay for SAS to achieve the same.

[@muhammadomer5301]

want to develop a fashion designing bot i.e a software that can generate new apparels on giving instructions by a non programmer designer eg colour combo, age, gender, season etc. So which language should I choose for this project.

[@isodino1]

Thanks .. What is the best full course for data analysis and data science worldwide? practical one? with good credited certification.

[@TorpaQoff]

Hi. If I don't code, is it sufficient to use STATA and Tableau for data analysis? Is STATA a good substitute?

[@TheCareerForce]

There are definitely no code roles out there. I think that's a good combo.

[@walexia]

As an engineer I love using python because there are certain things Tableau won't allow you to do and won't tell you why.With python since I create the code, I design the loops, I design the direction of the iteration and all the advanced and complex conditions....then I can see where it went wrong and how to tailor a specialized dynamic solution to resolve the error

[@musajallow5013]

SAS or SQL? I'm already in the advance level with SQL and I find it amazing.

[@MasterofPlay7]

sql is only for data retrieval for data science, if you want to be DBA then is another story....

[@erikasuzuki480]

T-SQL definitely.

[@AnuragSingh-yx9uv]

As a college student which one should I take? R or Python. I have some experience in python.

[@eacardenase]

R.

[@soccerfp]

Python. Its more sought out after in the job market. More jobs will ask for python. Only a select few will ask for R. Plus you can do so much more with python than R

[@parkla4098]

That perfect bait at the start :)

[@jesflo4]

Stumbled upon your channel, loving your content, keep it up!

[@ChlorineSpot]

hello , great video , i want to learn how to create databases and use it , what should i learn?

[@namratapatel840]

Thank you Jen...you have explained very clearly

[@blackfootraw]

I've seen multiple job postings which say that are looking for people proficient in BOTH Python and R.

[@joannaquintero4265]

Hi Jenn, I have learned a lot from your videos. I’m currently taking a Data Analytics course from Simplilearn and it is the worst experience I’ve ever had. If I had known about Data Camp before, I would not have waist my money on such a bad program like Simplilearn. Thanks for your videos

[@michaelpanchu8738]

I'm more comfortable with Python. More so because I took courses on Python at my University. I'm currently taking some python for data science courses online right now.

[@MasterofPlay7]

yeah tensorflow baby xD

[@MohamedIbrahimEid]

Thanks Jen, I just start python, do I have learned earlier R. I feel that python is more powerful than R. Thanks for encourage me to proceed my path to learn python.

[@Reet_triple_charm]

I guess data analyst won't be more about knowing the domain with technology just being an enabler. Everywhere i find the focus is on technology and domain aspect is completely missing .... With that view, please suggest how to go about picking a domain, best resources for like DataCamp for Data Science .... all especially for an experienced person who would be making a switch !! ..

[@ibragim_on]

How about sas for data analysis?

[@grahamhilldrup1256]

Thank you; very helpful commentary.

[@stochasticdifferentialeq.1393]

I like R and I use R.

[@rocket1853-q9e]

Python Programming is my first choice

[@thoyo]

Learning Python as my first language.

[@bohebingbing1620]

Thank you. I like your videos, i like the way you talk.

[@sturmunro]

Thanks for another great video! Really appreciate it.

[@Mystery207]

Yeah the thing they don’t tell you is what’s being used the most. No one is using R. 😒. I fell for it and learned R now I have to learn python 🐍

[@bowendu5483]

Could you make a subtitle? I can't even see the subtitles automatically translated.

[@MiBienestarPersonal]

Thanks for this Video Real help. I am your fan

So sad I learned R programming for my thesis. Looks like it will be useful for my Master's degree but not for landing a job. 😔

[@DrLivingParadox]

Not at all!! Your R programming skills are really useful. A lot of job requirements, let's say data science field, would like you to have knowledge/experience in R, Python, SQL, and/or Excel. Check out a data analyst/science role at Facebook or Google, and you'll see! :) Python is great because it's a popular programming language in general. However, R is still super robust. The Pandas library in Python has a lot of similar syntax to R for selecting/manipulating data frames. I personally love R.

[@chriswayneecf9236]

All that matters is that you've made something useful that you love talking about. You should know 1-2 languages really well, but which one doesn't really matter. You have to be useful at SOMETHING to start, and can learn the rest on the job.

[@chriswayneecf9236]

I've been a software engineer at a large firm for about 2 years.

[@averyrobbins68]

R is super powerful! Definitely worth learning if you are doing data science or data analytics. It is in demand at many companies.

[@walexia]

You do know that the reason python is popular is beacuse its super easy to learn right? jump in!! you will have so much fun re-creating your Thesis in python...and be able to do so much more!!

[@miaroscfala]

Read the P of Python on your lips before video started and only watched up to 0:06 - soz

[@mainuddin6201]

thanks

[@artificial-alex01101]

Python all day

[@OZ88]

R

[@ManPursueExcellence]

Nice start 😂

[@travisrichards6788]

Are you single?