r1 SP Talents for Archon/Voidweaver in PvP! (3v3/Commentary)

[@layunin2941]

big props for playing sp man. i have no idea how you do it. this fury literally drooling on you the entire game and yet you still pumped.

[@StahpSP]

ya that dk rsham mage game was a good example of how tilting SP can be to play.. do everything to the best of your ability and the enemy team still shuts you down

[@certex6766]

What do you play @layuin2941? SP seems more doable than some other casters, but yes it's tough.

[@Relapse_TV]

hell yeah dude been waiting for this video. lets go ty Stahp

[@alanward3218]

I sometimes try to get rid of kicks casting flash heal if they are not paying attention reading the cast a lot of time, they will waste a kick on that and if not, you get free 10% damage reduction.

[@StahpSP]

good tips

[@HootsDefiasBrotherhood]

Honestly some really good gameplay here, I’m playing shatterplay with my friends aiming for glad this expansion and seeing this gameplay gonna help for sure 👌

[@StahpSP]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@ItsPulsing]

You can gem ur haste ring and put precog on it. It'll last you till you last replace ur ring with conquest :D I love when you said "this team has no idea what they're doing and they just shut me down for 1 min" or so. It's legit every sp vs every almost every matchup.

[@StahpSP]

Thanks I just did that it’s game changing

[@kerkertrandov459]

Gem that costs 200 mil gold

[@6Kips]

Liked before even watching cause these are always useful

[@ben_ger1988]

ty for the tipps, good video. I have seen a voidweaver guide with the mindbender spec. It seemed also very fun, he sometimes had 5 beners out. Maybe worth a try.

[@hecticzhabibi9122]

Hi nice videos bro Is a shadow priest pvp guide coming soon ?

[@StahpSP]

Yes, soon

[@alexsurface7393]

Good insight video as always brother, hard to really tell what's working and what's not when all we have are scrims lol Archon feels good, but I'm a shadow priest through and through so you know we gotta default on that voidweaver lolol

[@StahpSP]

some of those games were wargames vs glad/r1 xp people too

[@benzy648]

nice video,whats your talents for solo bg?

[@StahpSP]

i would prob use that 2nd spec in the video with apparitions and halo

[@federicothompson2299]

I thought Spriest would be tough to play because we cast so much, but it feels s-tier to me. Archon feels so much better to me. You can stack 4 mind flay insanity and get haste stacks quickly helps to mitigate having to cast so much.

[@kerkertrandov459]

Ure just biased cuz u play it so u subconsciously want it to be good. Nobody ranks SP in S tier

[@mistakai4226]

Try voidweaver with screams, mastermind, and ire taking deathspeaker over auspicious. Use the deathspeaker proc to sumon shafowfiends instead of voidwraith.

[@ogsh33n68]

Which race do you recommend for horde? I was looking for UD what do you think about it

[@StahpSP]

Goblin / panda both goated

[@KrillKutta]

SP is so FUN. i dont have much honor gear rn, but damn, so much utility and im smashing! Im going full send on Haste.

[@davidhalbach3241]

Awesome video ! Is that a weak aura that shows u when your cds on coming back ?

[@StahpSP]

Doom CD pulse addon

[@terhomarila4926]

Just watched all your old mop videos and loved every second of it, especially s15 ones. Cant wait for mop classic... Retail sp feels so weird 😬

[@StahpSP]

mop classic is gonna kill my social life lmao

[@InnerSun777]

What addon is it that has your cooldowns flash in the center of your UI???? Thanks for the upload, can't wait till season starts...Going to be a good 1

[@StahpSP]

doom cd pulse

[@rl8073]

I was top 50 shadow priest in solo shuffle last season, tomorrows my first day with TWW, very excited. Enjoyed your content.

[@ziggs123]

Void blast needs another 20% and some love to the dots would be lovely or at least harsher dispell protection. Make the horror effect a second longer or make it % hp dmg

[@StahpSP]

ya void blast with ire baseline would be decent just sux u gotta take like 3 talents to even make it viable

[@chrisburgess7066]

Hey bro I've been watching your vids for a bit now, I only play shadowpriest and have for years. Not much on arenas because of melee trains but was wondering if you had a good BG spec recommendation because I plan on going hard with Rbgs this season because that's what I have the most fun in. Thanks dude

[@StahpSP]

play the halo spec w/ apps i linked in description

[@ruubeen1000]

Sorry but is not very clear for me, which hero talents and play style is better for an affly/sp 3v comp? thanks! very nice video

[@StahpSP]

Archon all da way

[@tamantije2463]

so for the archon, which one is more pressure and better overall? mastermind or apparitions?

[@StahpSP]

Hard to say they are both good. Mastermind is more single target apps are more pad

[@anasameer]

As someone who plays classic but wants to get into retail, how do you not throw your keyboard away when you get micro ccd for ages? 1sec stun into 1sec stun into silence into root into kick (faked it, good on you lol) AGGHHHHHHHHH

[@StahpSP]

10 years of mindfulness meditation experience and I almost broke something on that dalaran game lmao

[@Lordoseven]

@@StahpSP Micro cc’s this exp has been the most frustrating thing ever. Played 2 seasons of SP in DF and it was not like this. ESPECIALLY monk, with warr/dk. Monk has knockups, legsweep, combined with warrs fear and stun, or dk’s stun/shield immunity and silence, don’t forget 2x kicks. Feels unplayable. And I only que into 3x melee’s. Shuffling between 1750- 1800 (was 2300 in DF) rating which is a little over top 50 SP in world atm, might be a little over my XP if you think about the current state of rating, idk. But it makes you want to punch through your monitor. Everyone goes with Archon, but I tried Voidweaver yesterday and it feels more tanky when you opt. with Void Leech and No Escape. Needs a bit of testing tho

[@Tooqwikman]

Could do an @ focus target macro for shadow crash since you’re just dropping it on healers all the time and they’re usually your focus target. Then you’re not having to change targets to get it off. Edit: lmao nvm you said it towards the end 😂

[@blakewaldrop6998]

That aff lock on your team is a god

[@StahpSP]

he is an sp gamer at heart

[@blakewaldrop6998]

@StahpSP hahaha it's me disemble

[@flavioromano8754]

so for bgs and stuff, archon is better? especially considering staying alive?

[@StahpSP]

Voidweaver has more survivability and single target dmg, I bet archon is better in rbgs for max aoe damage

[@marekmogielnicki6037]

Where i can find your weak auras and tellmewhen

[@StahpSP]

wago.io/fUIVJsZa3 weakauras, i dont think u can share TMW auras but they are pretty easy to make lmk if you have any questioins

[@RozitGaming]

would voidweaver be good with a frost mage or are people still gonna tunnel the priest?

[@StahpSP]

I think even when you’re not being tunneled archon is still better

[@adamcornell1186]

Why no insidious ire in the mastermind build? Genuinely curious.

[@temporary222]

probably because mind blast and void torrent both hit for jack shit as archon, so there's no point in buffing them with setup. archon is all about MF:I

[@StahpSP]

Correct yeah torrent super low on the hierarchy for archon; it’s basically a filler spell

[@rekai9858]

10:20 "i dont know why people like this game over cata" bro you rerolled out of sp in cata 💀

[@StahpSP]

I play sp in cata too

[@rekai9858]

@@StahpSP few times i tuned in to the stream it did not look like you were having fun on sp. also from personal experience cata sp is some dog stuff lmao

[@Notmytwin]

Precog would literally solve your hatred for that dumb ass dk micro cc problem so there’s that

[@Majestic-o3p]

I do not want to underestimate your skills, you are obviously very skilled, that's no doubt, but what I saw is that there were 14 stacks of healing reduction, so in my opinion its not how good is shadow at the moment, but rather how much healing was reduced until shadow stops sucking :) Everybody is good with that amount of stacks. The other thing is how you survived - so still applause to your mastery.

[@StahpSP]

Lol thanks

[@JamesBrown-xb7yi]

Screw playing my sp in pvp pve is great though for it

[@endofexistence2149]

Until voidweaver is better than archon shadow is not back in my eyes.

[@wolfcrendraven7249]

To quote a reddit thread about pvp content creaters and who is good to watch for every spec "stahp would be good to watch if he didn't cry about the game the entire time he's playing"

[@jayhovito]

i’ve been running a build without void torrent because it hits like a wet noodle and the channel is so long

[@mvpeteb1044]

Hey, love the videos. Wondering if u have done any testing with a mindbender+inescapable torment build with voidweaver and the spawn bender when deathing? something like this maybe: CIQAJSbRac/22NxZbHdYKOQzcAjZAAAAAAAAAAAAAwMzsMzsNzYZWMzMjZZmZ2sxsxMzMjZjZhZwgltxUzMAMmZwMLWma2MY2mllMmZjF

[@Krome2dadome]

So bricked rn

[@Jordan-dk2op]

Bro our damage is pitiful when looking at other classes. And really upsets me when a melee can just sit you and double the damage without having to cast a thing. There is no such thing as kiting anymore either so where is the advantage of being a caster these days?

[@philippjost5292]

the warrior u face is so bad....classic zugzug player

[@StahpSP]

war see sp, war sit on sp -_-

[@philippjost5292]

@@StahpSP im even tilt by watching these zugzugs play haha. imagine how theyd perform on a class with high skillvalue :-O

[@kevinc8955]

This looks miserable to play, NGL. Just sitting in CC the whole match.

[@StahpSP]

Honestly I’m bored already lol

[@Notmytwin]

We need a gearing guide next pimp skillet! I’m lost lol

[@StahpSP]

Check the newest vid

[@pale2502]

This game is dogshit compared to cata

[@StahpSP]

Yeah but cata isn’t active at all and it’s only one comp at high Elo. Can’t find qs ever so retail it is!