O.U.R. "GAMBLERZ VS JINJO" - 2012 R16 Korea Eliminations - Finals

This footage was shot by the Judges View.
R-16 Korea National Championships
Final Battle
Gamblerz Crew VS Jinjo Crew
Judges:
Foundation: Lil John
Originality: Free
Dynamics: Blue
Execution: Puzzles
Battle: Storm
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www.r16korea.com

[@adrynori]

lil john, again and again

[@animiefansHQ]

When The End got a 2 for originality on his set.. that's when you know the judging is god awful

[@s_pick420]

IMO this is the best performance I've seen for Jinjo. Ironic cuz Wing isn't here. Hong10 definitely allowed Jinjo to pull off more stuff. That sidechair routine was sick...

[@user-pp2vp3yu1u]

thanks !!!

[@tremerin1]

That was really clarifying, thanks.

[@ngajakribut]

The best bboy in korea : 2000 - 2005 Gambler Crew, 2006 - 2010 Rivers Crew, 2011 - Until now is Jinjo Crew .. :)

[@sn299]

it is so good to see gamblerz bak and at it after all those months

[@CGDCBOYS]

thx

[@bboylivid]

amazing battle

[@Bb0yLilTh0M]

Absolutely agree with you there...big respect to this comment !!!

[@AlexDanceAdi]

ohh okayyy thanks for the info =)

[@SoloCap-Music]

2:26 when Vero picked up the hat and put it on, it was over

[@bboyeliandro6039]

gamblerz sempre em forma muita musicalidade

[@R16KOREA]

Yes ofcourse it's taken into account. It's under the "Dynamics" Category. It is part of the 7 Dynamic qualities: Strength, Speed, Balance, Energy, Flexibility, Risk of Injury, and Complexity

[@zealsmr]

gamblerz foundations 1 ? which are the qualities ?

[@pragyankaji8380]

korean ninja is best bboy vero

[@Bboypixelfrombr]

Great way to judge loved it

[@sixzeroninetk9498]

3rd music plz..? anybody know dat music??

[@xXMaBuHaYxKeOXx]

DOPE BATTLE!!!

[@flipone01]

What is the highest score you can get in each catergory?

[@ngajakribut]

what song at 08:17... plis, i need it ? :) respect~

[@CGDCBOYS]

What's foundation stand for?Could someone explain it for me?

[@NyctNyct]

Gamblers were getting a lot of 1's for foundation. That felt right seeing as Sick and The End weren't doing foundation. However that bugs me as I remembered how last year during the R16 solos BBoys like Taisuke did just as little foundation and was getting 3s. I also have a question. Are the points given out on amount or quality? Strictly speaking a routine could attain high points and the solo following the routine would just waste moves and do nothing to little to improve the points.

[@ConsciousBreaks]

Are all these judges briefed or told specifics about the judging, because I'd hate if it was just assumed that they automatically qualify as a judge.

[@votexmama]

great battle nonetheless!!!

[@Enforcer901]

ho9ly shit 8:25 is like one of the best routines ive seen. that timing man...

[@AlexDanceAdi]

yeah i just noticed that too, he wasn't part of them before right?

[@surpresaelemento]

KOREA MELHO DO MUNDOS BBOYS ADIMIRO MUIIIIIIIIIIITO

[@MrAzim42]

Is this the final battle??

[@iST0N3D]

A practitioner of this dance is called a b-boy, b-girl, or breaker. Although the term "breakdance" is frequently used to refer to the dance, "b-boying" and "breaking" are the original terms. These terms are preferred by the majority of the pioneers and most notable practitioners

[@TheEsclaw]

King So! Nice to see him battling.

[@ilamgdfg5251]

what song of 8.18 until 10.18 please???

[@BboyDonku52]

True, Nobody else can do his sets, but think about like this. how often do you see him do the same combos? example every time you see him jackhammer whats going to follow? either airflares of flares. Originality is about bringing something new and fresh to the table not just repeating the same moves you been doing for years...

[@burenproductions]

Yeah that's fine. I always have respected the old school and I love it. I have always thought that we have to be gratefull with them, because now that the new generation we have is because they worked hard in their moment(I have been actually dancing for 7 years old). But the question is that everything changes, time change things I'm still thinking is not a fair system at all.

[@andrepranata7720]

Plzz...tell me all of the song in this battle

[@ConsciousBreaks]

Anyone know the song when Octopus goes out?

[@R16KOREA]

Execution needs to have these 4 components distinguishable executed: 1. Complete confidence 2. A rhythm (weather power, style or tricks) 3. Clean form (style and power, no scrapes or stumbles) 4. Clean moves (no crashes must be sharp) All 4 must be executed from the beginning to the end of the ENTIRE round to score perfect

[@bangbang12993]

확실히 시간이 되서 그런가 ㅋㅋ 젊으니까 더 잘 한다

[@ConsciousBreaks]

I kind of agree with you, but that also goes into the Battle category, theoretically. Some people suggested a 1-10 scale to more accurately reflect it, but I think that's a bit too high.

[@XbboyztoneX]

nice song brother !!!

[@bboyyogurtify]

Wtf with foundation judge？

[@MrSonnyli]

Vero rocked!!!!

[@TheChromaticz355]

this system is good as long as the bboying is goin further in difficulties and styles...so we can judge the same powermove or footwork etc but takin notes to its precision and form

[@gwbenyloch]

What's the song from @00:50 ?

[@Yoklcxhj]

Who's the winner???

[@BreakerMFC]

Song at 3:18 and the one which starts at 8:18 plz????

[@wanshaarmizico925]

What the dance name at 8.32

[@DaRocknOn3]

Amen

[@BboySeoulFame]

i need the song list pleaseeeeeeee!!!

[@ConsciousBreaks]

Song list please!

[@GurungArjun20]

how can the end's set only get 2 for originality? WTFFF!

[@skateplusrice]

first track?

[@newflavorteam]

Totally agree, thats what exactly i wonder what if someone come up with a better and harder round than a "5 points" round ?

[@leoris87]

I was wondering why Strife TV didn't put up videos, but I see that they are officially covering this event. From other vids I saw Mis Lee working the camera at this angle.

[@XbboyztoneX]

link please !!!

[@bboybeginning73]

song at 8:18 and last song please !!

[@R16KOREA]

Points are given out by quality, not quantity. Yes a routine could attain high points, and the following solo can waste moves or do nothing to improve the score. Same can be said vice versa with a good solo can score high, and a following routine can actually bring it down

[@LilJohn_80]

i like how u said that.."we can't give point to art"..i agreed with u..it should be base on the judges's feeling..

[@ConsciousBreaks]

Anyone knows the songs between 1:16 and 4:53?

[@SuperNeowiz]

So Hong 10 is from Jinjo now?

[@LinLinIsMyFeyt]

i thought it will be a long wait, but i'm glad to see hong10 battle... it's as if he didn't join the army after all. glad he's here.

[@iMBbOyStEeLz]

what is first song :)

[@juniorsky2012]

first song name plz

[@ConsciousBreaks]

8:27 Song Name?

[@abtyang]

since their points are added to the same side they can balance each other out if they are very good at what they do. however, if one crew has power heads who have stronger foundation, not just specialized, then it makes sense that they should do better.

[@bststeepee]

fe is so awesome!

[@qprtx]

Of course Blue did a great job. I just think that sometimes when someone maxes out a category or two, the judging system doesn't leave any room for the opposing crew to top it in the response. That could be changed if crews were given scores relative to each other. For instance, the Gamblerz routine at 6:50 earned a 5 in dynamics, but one could argue that Jinjo's response was even more dynamic. However, there is no way for the scoring system to reflect that. O.U.R. is still great. Keep it up!

[@dreamskysang]

4:53 song name ? ~"~

[@lolapple]

Bboying isn't even about only one aspect of the dance. It's about the bigger picture and in the past, battles were judged based on factors like technique and others. Foundation and every other part of the O.U.R. system reps each aspect of the dance. Although parts of the world may disagree, the system hasn't existed that long yet. There are still parts of the system that are viewed negatively upon, but hopefully some changes can be made on how exactly each part is judged.

[@thophan6104]

good

[@uveress]

You do realize this system is still incomplete? They are still working out all the kinks and bugs such that it may include any and all styles of the dance.

[@jabbawockeez127]

nice battle Respect to Gamblerz And jinjo crew

[@asiandude256]

Competing in the r16 is like taking the driving test, everything needs to be how the judges score it.

[@fly9hi]

its so cool to see Jinjo have fun, win lose or draw:)

[@bboyariel1]

a lot of these comments have circulated around lil jon's judging, and some of the questionable calls he made that night. This is great. It proves the OUR system works, because it allows u to pick out one judge and see what he chose each round and allows us to examine whether his assessment was accurate. Regardless of whether lil jon made the right calls that night, the OUR system gives us the power to see who is capable of judging and who isnt.

[@itolegs2012]

wow is born battle.

[@bboynhoc392]

the song 00.50 please

[@BboySomar]

powerheads can get dynamics, excecution and battle view and can do powermoves with musicality and confidence such as (flying buddha) and there are powermovers that are creative and original such as lil g, the end, funt....

[@MiCKeeMoUsEe]

Lil John goes, "If there's one power move I put a 1"

[@user-ln3gd2lp8x]

우와..베로

[@XbboyztoneX]

4:54 song please !!!!

[@akirayoshidacompany]

True true true !

[@k1mgeeeee1]

song at 4:53?

[@QueensBoulevard]

Song at 4:54?

[@bststeepee]

hong 10 hasnt been this clean in so long

[@Bruce516153]

5:35 music?

[@Bboywind97]

jack hammers to airflare... TOO BEAST!

[@Plajaa]

6:03 Bboy The End's set got 2 for ORIGINALITY!!! R U KIDDING ME? Nobody in the whole phaqin world can repeat his sets! How the phaq he gets only 2 out of 5 when he does the powermoves which he invented and nobody can repeat it?

[@CalvinOh]

Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band - Bo Diddley 4:53

[@Erickson127]

I'm amazed by The End's power as much as the next person, believe me. But let's say someone somewhere in the world managed to achieve let's say jackhammers to airflares and has never even heard of The End. He's not biting since he's never seen a single bit of The End's powerhead style. He's just doing the same combo. At the same time, he's able to do something that The End can do. So really, powermoves can only make a small impact on Originality. Like I said, there's a Dynamics section for that.

[@Ragnarok8577736]

i like the score board =)

[@Giniboyable]

Vero had a crazy round

[@BboySomar]

youve got a point there actually!

[@TheDslide]

kind of true

[@AimFirhad]

yeah. i agree :D

[@BBOYDIVER]

who winner.

[@mark12345697]

Hong10 is in jinjo not in gamblerz -.-

[@uveress]

But yea, I do understand what you are saying. There are still a few flaws with the system, but it's an improvement on the judging system earlier.

[@abtyang]

of course it will always depend somewhat on the judge, so I assume that lil jon did not feel his flow was strong, or that his moves were connected with the right confidence etc. it's not just having creative footwork moves it's having them flow with the right swagger. and sometimes people with an abstract style can have flow that is hard to get into so I can see why a judge would consider that foundation weak

[@bststeepee]

r16 world championship semifinals > r16 korea > r16 world championship final