2019 Scatpack Vs Hellcat .. 0-60 on the street - are you serious?

[@pops55650]

I noticed the same thing when I traded in my Scat Pack for my Hellcat Redeye. Off the line, on the street, I didn’t notice much of a difference, but once you get going and that boost kicks in, the Hellcat starts to scoot. Just shows how good of a street car the Scat Pack is

[@RacerX9]

Yes i fully agree with you

[@chriswalker955]

MEOW

[@renelepage2078]

Good way to show how the street is a good equalizer!

[@zayneverestfrancis]

I didn’t know Stone Cold Steve Austin started cartubing, good shit man🤣

[@RacerX9]

Thank you brother 👍

[@rotekkable]

That was a spinfest and that's the bottomline. can I get a Hell Yeah ?

[@jamesfeeley274]

ZFR Cars hahahahaha

[@JR10_RR]

WHAT

[@rowdyj9991]

@@rotekkable thats the bottom line because RacerX said so!!

[@willbar1961]

Drag racing has always been that way. If you can't get it to the ground it doesn't matter how much power you have.

[@RacerX9]

Agreed Will

[@russkiytube]

It depends if you have AWD or RWD also, there is certain amount of torque or power after which RWD became pointless or not enough.

[@thelifeofBrian8]

@@russkiytube So explain Demon....

[@russkiytube]

Higany8 demon is simply overpowered (some videos even shows exploding rear differential on it). I’d ask you to explain how bmw M5 competition will less HP but AWD accelerates almost as much fast as Demon. Imagine what Demon would be if it was AWD.

[@thelifeofBrian8]

@@russkiytube 3.1 seconds is quite a lot slower than 2.3. Or what 0-60 do you have on the M5?

[@quickbrick2594]

Great vid brother! You went through A LOT of effort swapping out all those tires to get folks some very usable and practical information.

[@RacerX9]

Thanks buddy.. yes this one was quite a bit of work

[@anoint426hemi6]

@@RacerX9 thanks for all your effort

[@Pilot545]

Quick Brick Great point! I was thinking the same thing while watching. LOTS of effort there! Bravo!

[@GamertagO1]

I think you convinced me to get a new scat pack instead of a used hellcat. I have no intention of hitting the track, just random street racing lol.

[@RacerX9]

You will love that Scatpack 👍

[@PressurePlayerStudio]

I advise to stray away from "cheap" high horsepower used cars

[@devn3813]

NGT OI i want a scat pack and eventually a hellcat but it’s crazy that the scat pack runs only a second slower in the quarter mile

[@GamertagO1]

@@devn3813 I was looking at the charger scatpack but wanted to wait for the widebody since it'll come with the 11 inch wide tires that come on the Challenger widebody. The tires your can get from dealer are at widest 9.5 inch on both Challenger and charger without widebody option. Even the hellcat!

[@Lem0nsquid]

@@GamertagO1 good idea man. hold out for that widebody and you will be happy about waiting when its in the driveway

[@SickeningGojo]

Man, I'm not even gonna lie, I drive a damn Infiniti, but your vids are just fun to watch. I love the unbiased, informative attitude and the fact you reply to all your fans. Good stuff, man!

[@mistressplettetko]

Racer X dropping a hot plate full of badass Dodge knowledge through real-world experience in our laps. Every time I see a notification pop up from KZbin with Racer X in it, I know it's going to be good. As always, Keep Smiling

[@RacerX9]

ForNoRaisin .. thanks buddy! I appreciate the support 🤜🔥🔥

[@mistressplettetko]

@@RacerX9 just returning a little of the love you give all of us by taking the time and energy to make these videos. It's not anywhere near as easy as a lot of people think it is to come up with the kind of content you make. All of us Xcessiv Fans appreciate all of what you do. As always, Keep Smiling

[@BradBLundstromSr]

I currently own a Scat Pack 2017 automatic. My first dead stop 0-60 with stock tires 4.3. Didn't even use launch control. Grip vs horsepower equals fast 0-60 every time. Goodyear supercar summer tires 80 degrees outside. Love this car! Dodge is got a winner at a reasonable price on used car lot!

[@rkalla]

Shooting and editing this must have been a hell of a lot of work but damn it was interesting - thanks for taking the time and putting this together!

[@The69GOAT]

Legend has it, he's still modulating the throttle to this day...

[@hellonwheels9149]

Legend has it, the legend has it line has been played out. Time to move on to another catchy phrase.

[@scottescobar1522]

I have a 2019 Challenger 392 T/A and this info is good to know, Thanks for taking the time to do this.

[@RacerX9]

No worries Scott 🤜🔥🔥

[@braney56]

Well made video. You proved that 1000 hp on the street is overkill. The Scat pack is an awesome car. I have a 2016 6spd. manual, damn it's fun to drive!

[@RacerX9]

Brian R absolutely .. the Scatpack is a blast for sure 👍

[@ScatPackRob]

Can't say I'm surprised at the results. 1000 HP is not really useable from a dig on the street while the Scat Pack with 485 HP and a sticky tire makes for a sweet spot for traction. I've never raced on the street but at the track I've beat a lot of cars with more HP and less weight. I want that Redeye but if I get it I'll need to learn how to drive 😀

[@RacerX9]

Bob I say you get the Red Eye and come join us in the land of Spinsanity 😆.. yes I think the Scatpack hits the traction sweet spot

[@jamesbecker5428]

This video says it all guys. I had a scatpack challenger and traded it in for a Hellcat charger, thinking there would be a dramatic change, but there really wasn't. After 2 months, I traded the Hellcat back for a new 2019 scatpack challenger. I think that the Hellcat's are way overrated, especially for a 25k price difference.

[@RacerX9]

I think both are great and they make power very differently

[@forrest8139]

When I first got my 275 Firestone Indy 500's I did about 6 0-60 runs in my Challenger Scatpack. Put the transmission in Track, left it in 1st, and left traction control on Street. Doing that got me three 4.2's, and then a few 4.3-4.4 runs. With stock 245 tires I was consistently 4.5-5.0 seconds.

[@RacerX9]

Forrest that sounds about right.. very respectable times my friend 👍

[@devn3813]

Forrest i want the Indy’s and was wondering how they do in 0-60 runs. I cannot get below 4.8 with the Goodyear’s. It’s spins literally the entire time even with traction control on

[@forrest8139]

@@devn3813 I'd say go for the Indy's man. I got 275/40/20 on mine and they perform great and look great too. When I had the 245 Goodyear's I was frustrated seeing everyone get low 4's while I was doing 4.8 and sometimes 5.0+ haha. Like I said, I got these and 3 out of the 6 0-60 runs I did I hit 4.2 with Track mode and TC on, the other ones were 4.3 and 4.4. Handle much better in the rain too.

[@DJGRoc]

Unless you got an SE, SXT, or GT Chally; those 245's just aren't gonna cut it off the line. I traded up to 305's on 10.5" wide rear wheels as quickly as I could! I'm actually running 315's now, & couldn't be happier!

[@pops55650]

I need to do that on my Hellcat Redeye, I didn’t get the widebody option

[@DJGRoc]

@@pops55650 I don't have a wide body either, although the kit is on my wish list of mods. I still love the look without it though. Just wish I could get Sticky Mickey's in a 315/35R20...

[@DP-hn6rl]

Another thing to consider in this comparison is that your cat makes waaaaay more power than stock. So a stock hellcat may be able to hook better and run a quicker 0-60 on the street than your Demon-Killing Cat😈 so a stock hellcat might be able to pull off a 3.9 sec run in the same conditions 🤔

[@RacerX9]

D P3 .. great point my friend... yes my car has been nastified and set up for the track which makes it essentially impossible to hook up on the street 👍

[@markjones2185]

I see hell cats get spanked by 400 horsepower to the wheel cars in the street all the time. 0 to 60. they don't hook well 0 to 60 so the fact of the matter unless you plan on racing over a hundred miles an hour where the Hellcat really shines! it's pointless to spend the extra money for the Hellcat. you might as well save and go Scat Pack. the 700 horsepower is just bragging numbers. It isn't usable on the street. therefore it's a waste.

[@RacerX9]

It is definitely tough to hook all that power on the street.. although mine is highly modified so it may not be the best representation of how a stock hellcat performs

[@fallback8314]

this is a great dam point

[@robwwhit3453]

@@markjones2185 Dumb, if you can afford a Hellcat you can afford Drag Radial tires. I get 3.6 to 3.9 0-60s with a 18 Hellcat Charger, 275 /40/29 M/T DR...

[@michaelt2071]

Just got my scatpack and I'm in love with it.

[@RacerX9]

Awesome.. what’s not to love 👍

[@GamesArt86]

No one does what this guy doing! Appreciate your effort and tests, it helps a lot! I think that's the IT gene, hehe, keep them coming!

[@GOATEDHUNTER144]

People normally tackle how much HP they can get but one thing alot of people forget is that Torque matters just as much if not more when it comes to drag racing

[@thomasburns3345]

HP is a derivative function of torque...

[@GOATEDHUNTER144]

@@thomasburns3345 there's a reason they have their own category buddy

[@thomasburns3345]

@@GOATEDHUNTER144 Yeah, your torque curve demonstrates acceleration characteristics, and can help you “see” how a car feels when accelerating. It can help with getting up out of the hole faster (assuming unlimited grip). A car with a flat torque curve that’s lower can be faster than a higher torque car that’s peaky and has a narrow band though. Turbo cars especially these days often are faster than their number would suggest because they begin peak torque very low, and carry it through or past to when HP more so becomes the number you’re looking at. That’s what makes my car so fun for me (Supercharged) is that it’s a linear torque and HP curve, no torque spike, just constant growth to the top of the gear. Ultimately though if the car is geared well and driven well you’re mainly looking at HP since you’re likely staying close to or above 5252 rpm after first gear. I’m not saying you’re wrong, in fact you’re right and I agree with the idea that most forget torque and that it’s important. I do think saying it’s more important than HP is a stretch though... maybe in diesel applications because the power and is so short and low?

[@Sheer_Tazieh]

Wrong 😂

[@d9103365]

I just upgraded my scat pack to 275 pirelli p zero nero tires on hellcat 20x9.5 wheels...you've inspired me to see what it does. I can tell you that the hellcat wheels are a lot lighter than the scat pack wheels.

[@keepout7439]

I wonder what the 0 to 60 foot times would be ???, Or from a 40 to 100 on a roll ???, Just throwing ideas out there for a possible next test, That was interesting and great content, I'm Impressed with the Scat Pack, I think real time, No prep, On the Street, The Scat Pack won that test , That is Street " Not Track ”, No Heating of Tires, Peace brother 💯💪👍👍👍

[@RacerX9]

Agreed Chris 👍.. I think the Scatpacks power is just more usable on the street.. it seems to hook right in.. although X-Cesiv is probably not the best example of a normal Hellcat since she’s got so much power over stock.. kind of an interesting test 👍

[@19hundoc47]

Ya but everyone who buys a car like this is probably going to regularly enjoy 40-120mph pulls and there the scatpack doesn’t stand a chance. Good video

[@mrrandy1009]

Best launch I got in my scat pack was on 275 P zero's and it was 3.9 seconds also great video really helped out a lot understanding the difference between tires on the street

[@RacerX9]

Thank you Mr. Randy 🤜🔥🔥.. 3.9 is stout on a street tire 😵

[@johnstephens3638]

I'm really glad I stumbled onto this video.......I have a 2012 GT500 that I have done many bolt on mods too, last step was to put a larger VMP Super Charger on it but this video made me change my mind. I don't drag race, don't swap tires around etc... if you can't put the power down without spinning it boils down to HP measuring up :) Great video by the way.

[@RacerX9]

John Stephens .. you got it my friend .. the surface is the great equalizer 👍

[@maximusdecimus474]

Got 305’s on my Scat Pack, I’d put it up against any car! Love it

[@spencerhull7784]

did you have to upgrade your rims from the stock rims to do this?

[@lirrfan3879]

Very informative video! Appreciate the multiple configs. Goes to show you that all MFG posted 0-60 times really are done on prepped surfaces, various tire combos, etc. Best I’ve done in my 19 Mustang GT with PZero Nero is 4.4. The street itself has so much variation. Surface type plays a big part. Gradient is also a huge factor...even a slight incline/decline can create drastic changes.

[@RacerX9]

Your absolutely right.. real world conditions make a big difference

[@djlilbone]

WOW! A VERY detailed video! I appreciate that!

[@RacerX9]

Thank you Damion

[@LocalHauntsShow]

I have a 2019 Challenger Scat Pack 1320. On the factory Nexen Drag Radials I have hit 3.6 to 60mph on the street in good air here in Florida. I consistantly hit 3.8 on a hot day. That is with 35lbs in the tires. So between the Demon's suspension and the drag radials which are 275's it looks like the 1320 is the fastest Challenger on the street to 60mph consistantly. Great video as always.

[@andyclark3611]

Great content & dedication doing multiple runs / tire changes

[@RacerX9]

Thank you Andy 👍

[@chiefsun25]

New to this channel and loving it, just subscribed! Thanks for all the info. Currently own an SXT and will soon be trading up to a 2021 scat pack widebody and impressed by your videos concerning your scat especially. Thanks!

[@hemihead392]

What you experienced with your SP is on par with mine. I now just run 305 NT555r's on the back as daily drivers, it's a great all around drag radial that isn't bad in the rain. Mine came with 275s and the best I could do with the 275 Pzeros was about 4.4 on the street. With 555r can do 4.1-4.3 all day on decent surfaces with occasional hero runs of 4.0. At the strip on prepped surface I get 3.7-3.8 on average The NA 392 is a great engine with a lot of low end kick. 👍 👍 👍

[@RacerX9]

Hemi Head .. I fully agree with you 👍. Sounds like your getting some solid pulls out of those Nittos .. they are a great all around tire

[@stevesmith6236]

FYI, the stock computer in my 2023 Dodge Charger RT showed a best ( drag strip) run of 4.8. In reality, the DRAGGY used on that run showed it was actually a 5.1 run. This run was with the stock 245/45/20 Goodyear tires.

[@jorgesalcido7707]

Awesome video! I suggest Arturo tires for the scat pack. Amazing tire for the price. I have been able to get a 4.2 on the street in my shaker on the Arturo tire.

[@RacerX9]

Jorge Salcido .. that’s a solid time my friend 👍

[@joeyn7399]

I wish you had the ability to do this with other cars. This is super helpful.

[@TheBlackScatPack]

The best I've ever gotten out my Scat was a 4.5 on atturo az850 and a 4.7 on the skinny 245. It takes some practice to get them off the line with minimum spinning

[@seancole8359]

Takes some practice to get off the line with 305’s! Lol I did a 4.0 today. I’ve only got 1800 miles

[@anthonyscarfi3381]

Best I’ve gotten is 4.0 on a stock 2019 scat pack

[@juanmoreno8343]

@@anthonyscarfi3381 that’s great for stock. Best I’ve done is 4.6 stock as well.

[@junkiexl86]

392 Scat is around mid 4's. Not sure what's going on in your testing. The difference between the Scat and Hellcat is 1 second. In both 0-60 and 1/4 on factory tires.

[@willpowers4762]

I love my '00 Camaro Z28, it's all stock with drag radials. It's perfectly balanced and always hooks and books on the street. I beat many cars from zero to sixty that have way more horsepower than my LS1.

[@RacerX9]

Definitely.. a well sorted car is tough to beat on the street

[@randomuploads1015]

Your 0-60 is probly a constant 4.8-5.1 thats a njce take off and would deff keep you next to almost anycar on the street

[@strikeeagle6871]

I have a SRT8 2008 Challenger. Great juice . I thoroughly enjoy quick bursts on roads but zero racing. Roads where I live are too crowded and personally I don't want to die to prove a point. I have so many posers wanting to race me and I tell them you won . Pisses them off and I love it .

[@jackandblaze5956]

Crud - I thought it was going to be Hellcat vs a 1970 440 Scat-Pack Challenger with modern tires.

[@bluesman7475]

Interesting match up.

[@44Angelblue]

Just to say - and here in the UK we are not quite as obsessed with 1/4 mile times as you guys - but the 0-60mph time IS everything here. A lot of performance car manufacturers actually gear their (manual) cars so they'll hit 60 before you need to grab 3rd purely to get a more eye-catching 0-60mph time to shout about... And yet.... On the STREET - which is what this video was talking about - for me at least - its all about upper end power - 50-70, 70-90 and so on. And that's where all those extra horses pay off. I've just traded in my 2008 SRT8 Challenger for a 2017 Hellcat - both a rarity over here - and whilst I'll agree the 0-60mph times in real "street" conditions probably aren't as dramatically different as you'd expect - probably a second at most - planting your foot at 50 or 60 in both is like night and day. The only time I've really felt a pull like I do in the Hellcat is back in the day when I had the use of my bosses 2003 Porsche 911 Turbo before he sold it. It was a twin turbo and when that second turbo kicked in, it accelerated from 60-100 in less time that most "fast" cars would do 0-60. My SRT, when booted at 60 would make a lot of noise - and - yes - pull ok too - but the Hellcat - when at those starting speeds traction is far less of an issue - absolutely leaves it for dead. Forced induction - whether supercharging or turbos - makes all the difference once you're moving at a decent pace. I miss the driveability of the SRT8 - I used it in all weathers - whereas the Hellcat is just plain dangerous in the wet unless you baby it all the time - but the rush of that upper end pull - absolutely intoxicating... No regrets here.

[@RacerX9]

44Angelblue .. hope your loving that cat! I know you get a lot of rain over there so I’m sure that adds to the challenge.. I certainly can imagine you get quite a bit of attention considering hellcats are really rare in the UK 👍

[@44Angelblue]

If you don't like having your picture taken - don't drive a Challenger in the UK! The SRT8 was Hemi Orange - I added black full-length side-stripes just to break up the wall of colour on the side which worked really well; the Hellcat is Plum Crazy with the twin black stripes over the top. It was always going to be that or Sublime for me (or at a push Go mango) as these are (at least here!) cartoon cars and need in-your-face colours. Plus my teen years were the'70's and its like a trip back down memory lane colour-wise. These cars make even less sense over here than they do there - left hand drive in the UK is no great hardship - until you get to a drive-in or a toll station. Or get stuck behind a solid vehicle like a bus or a truck that you can't see through to see if its safe to pass. And the size makes them completely impractical - I think they are considered "full-size" even over there - but here they are just too big to lug around as everyday cars. Plus our fuel is STILL way more expensive here. I have a daily driver so the Hellcat, like the SRT8 before it, is a weekend thing - but not just for shows (which I DO attend quite often) It gets the shopping every weekend and anywhere and everywhere I go at weekends its the default vehicle. Though as i mentioned before, the weather here IS a handicap. The SRT8 was ok in the wet (ish!) - the Hellcat just isn't. Its all too easy to end up in a big "moment" without meaning to and I've saved for too long to wreck it so if its wet it stays home. Which IS limiting. i managed around 2500-3000 miles a year in the SRT8 but given weather restrictions I think 1500-2000 is more realistic in this. Once I've paid off the loan balance on it, I'll definitely have the Widebody kit fitted and the wider wheels and tyres on. Apart from traction it just LOOKS so damn good! Budget wouldn't stretch to a Widebody here yet - and I was sick of waiting so - its for a later date.Your upload was really interesting and came as no huge surprise to me given direct personal experience (though I think it will for many others). But that upper-end power once you are well and truly underway - THAT'S when you really feel it. And hear it of course!

[@728GT]

Those 245's are TRASH

[@RacerX9]

Agreed my friend 🤜🔥🔥

[@PacoRobbins]

Couldn't agree more. Even with the 5.7 245s are too little. The best I've ever been able to pull out of mine is 5.7 0-60.

[@frazerholland6180]

I just put 255 on the rear of my 5.7 challenger. Still doesn't hold perfectly. 265s would be perfect I think

[@PacoRobbins]

@@frazerholland6180 I actually was going to do some overkill and put 295s on the back, but the wheels I was going to buy were supposed to be discounted but ended up not being so I backed out. It doesn't help that I have an open diff and not so great tires either.

[@frazerholland6180]

@@PacoRobbins Oh, dude. With open 295s would have been awesome. I've manged to get a flat 5.0 0-60 in my 2018. I'd like 275 but I think I'd have to upgrade my rim's, right?

[@DP-hn6rl]

This is a great great video for folks trying to make this choice. I rented both and I couldn’t justify the 20k difference as someone who doesn’t run at the track and “tries” not to exceed 140 on the reg. I put 315s on 10.5” rims on the back of my scat and it still spins through third, so I feel for hellcat owners on the street.

[@RacerX9]

D P3 .. thank you my friend.. yes now imagine 300+ more hp and trying to hook that on the street 😂.. coupled with a 3.09 gear and a nasty trans tune 💀..

[@DP-hn6rl]

RacerX I can only imagine, but I could see in the video, when you launch the cat, it literally looks like a race boat launching😆 controlled slide through 4th gear👌🏻 I was going to go with the 555r but after this, I’m going with the MT Street SS. You saved me $600 on the 555r. Thanks!

[@anoint426hemi6]

@@DP-hn6rl on the street, asphalt age makes all the difference. I used to take my m6 scat pack to different areas where I live in the country to see how it hooked with 275 555r tires. The new pavement was wheelhop city whereas rough 10-15 year old pavement it spun the tires banging through the gears and was off to the races. My stock Hellcat on 315 G2 Nittos on the same old pavement chirps in low and is gone.. haven't tried the new pavement yet.

[@RacerX9]

Absolutely the surface can have an impact as well 👍

[@andrewpaul7441]

Makes sense but I want to see if your doing better than the traction control in these cars. Great job!

[@RacerX9]

Andrew .. I have a new video coming tomorrow about that lol 👍

[@of_rice_and_men]

Ur videos are keeping me satisfied till this Saturday when I go pick up my 2021 scatpack challenger !

[@doithigh9213]

I got 305 on my scat pack and my best is 4.0. With constant 4.2

[@RacerX9]

Solid times my friend 👍

[@doithigh9213]

RacerX thanks that’s on 32 psi . I’m actually looking forward to dropping it to 25 and doing some launches

[@lordeddy6027]

I have a 2018 charger scat pack 392. Do the 305’s fit the rims it comes with?

[@rkalla]

Which 305s did you go with?

[@stevenp3176]

Lord Eddy 305s are way to wide for a 9 or 9.5 inch wheel. That being said with the right offset you can fit a 10.5-11in wheel under the rear fender of a narrow body charger. On those wheels you can put a 305-315 depending on the tire. 315/35r20 is the same height as a 275/40r20.

[@ericmel0930]

Great Review Racer X! Really enjoy you're channel. Huge Mopar fan. Love all the different reviews you do. 👍🇺🇲

[@bryanlecuyer5685]

More hp gets you a faster top end speed. They will be pretty equal on the street doing street speeds.

[@RacerX9]

Brian.. yes it’s all about putting the power down effectively 👍

[@ethanking3223]

I just love this guy and his videos my dream car is a Dodge Challenger and this guy has one in literally every video and I love it!

[@98SST]

Great comparison! I have a 2015 Challenger Scatpack. I have Nitto NT555Rs and have ran a 3.9 second 0-60 on the street. About 65F temp and about 500’ elevation. At the track, I cut a 3.6 second 0-60 with the same tires. Equated to an 11.8 second 1/4 mile.

[@RacerX9]

Good work my friend 👍

[@whatiwant8898]

I'm so jealous of you at 500 feet. I'm up at 7000ft and the best I can muster with stock tires is a 4.8 on a slight downhill. On flat ground the best I could get was a 5.2. Missing 100hp really hurts. Edit: I have a 2017 392 Scatpack Shaker 6m btw.

[@RacerX9]

Nice .. yes that elevation is definitely hurting you

[@BearsDenGaming]

This is the best ad for the scat and those Mickey's I've ever seen lol.

[@b5beast611]

Mickey Thompson 💪💪 Great comparison video👍

[@RacerX9]

Thank you my friend 🤜🔥🔥

[@surfj9009]

Great video. Appreciate all the hard work you put in for us

[@kertamo6721]

A very informative video. Great work!

[@RacerX9]

Kertamo .. thank you my friend 🤜🔥🔥

[@_LEONKING_]

It's good to know I'm not the only Challenger owner who can't get anything below 5 seconds on bad tires, I did get a 4.2 with my Mickey Thompson 305 street comps but I burnt them off like 3 days later 😂 I might try 305 Mickey SS next time but people keep telling me the best street tire to run are the Pilot SuperSports, I'll ready a bit more about them and make a decision.

[@korydodson9288]

dope video man, great explanation and everything just earned a sub!

[@RacerX9]

Thank you Kory.. welcome to the channel 👍

[@ironbull2003]

That is why i went with a TT set up vs root style SC for my mustang. It is all about streets ability at the end of the day, do not need all that torque.

[@RacerX9]

Twins are the peeps track application 👍

[@marionlee5900]

First of all another great video. But you and I both know that the power your kitty makes had absolutely no chance of putting it down. Still enjoyed the video tho. ? Can you still use your black key for less power. If so you should do a comparison with SP.

[@RacerX9]

Marion Lee .. thank you .. great idea! Perhaps that 500hp mode is worth a try! X-Cesiv is impossible to tame on the street in normal driving mode

[@Hobbz786]

Possible best of Both worlds.. Track red key... Street Black Key. agree with Marion Lee

[@ShamusCars]

Great comparison - I love that you actually tested some different tires. I have a '15 SRT 392. Running Contintental ExtremeContact Sports on it. Have done 4.2 seconds twice. Have done 4.3 seconds multiple times. Can regularly do 4.4-4.6 seconds. I have my custom drive mode set to sport, but with street traction control. Frankly though, I get my best times by modulating the throttle off the line, and then burying it. The Continental tire is very under-rated in my opinion!

[@RacerX9]

ShamusCars .. I think if I had continued to practice I may have been able to get that time down some but it’s still a challenge under those conditions 👍

[@mikepoint4983]

Great comparison , what size and what type of muffler are you using on the hellcat ? I love the note it sings 👌🏽

[@RacerX9]

Thank you Mike.. it’s a custom welded exhaust called a tunnel ram with no cats and custom 5” tips 👍.. it’s really aggressive but it’s nice a deep which I really like

[@skipdippity]

Thanks man...that was very interesting for sure. Nice to see the comparisons with the different tires on both cars. Just wondering what kind of time the scat pack could muster if the transmission wasn’t in sport. Like maybe wouldn’t break the rear end loose between 1st and 2nd..! Again nice video..!

[@RacerX9]

I actually tried a couple of days later and got similar results. The road I was making these pulls on is less that ideal so that may play a factor

[@bretashby7068]

Consistently pull 0-60 at 4.1 in my 2018 Challenger T/A. Dynamics Package with 275s on Michelin PS4s.

[@RacerX9]

Stout times 👍

[@bradwalbolt2324]

T/A 392 or T/A?

[@bretashby7068]

@@bradwalbolt2324 T/A 392

[@NothingButTheNews247]

Great video from beginning to end. SUBBED. My takeaway: For the street and daily driving save the money and go for the Scat pack and use the difference in price from the Hellcat on Mickey Thompsons.

[@RacerX9]

Black Conservative Patriot Channel 2 .. certainly one way to look at it 👍.. welcome to the channel

[@milesonewheelwinter]

Brother why don't you tell us what size rims you're using? Because if you're using the stock 9 inch rim it's no different than a 9 inch rim on a 245. I know your results show slight difference but if you were running an appropriately-sized Rim such as of ten or preferably 11 I imagine it make a tremendous difference

[@RacerX9]

Miles Eston .. the rim on the Nitto was a stock 9.5 Hellcat rim and the MT Street SS had an aftermarket 9.5” rim .. they weigh about the same .. good observation 👍.. didn’t think to talk about rims

[@DeryckAllen]

Wanted to leave this comment to say thank you for the work you did to make this video I really enjoyed!!

[@RacerX9]

4 Doors or Die 🤜🔥🔥

[@clints8731]

This was great information. Doing diferent tests and comparing different tires. In my mind I'm always comparing my scat pack to my buddies hell cat. Obviously he's gonna chase me down every time eventually. But he spins alot. All in all super interesting.

[@RacerX9]

Thank you Clint.. yes I thought this might make for an interesting little test 👍

[@johndoe-ly8jt]

If you think about it the scatpack is a great bargain considering it’s olny 20mph slower then the hellcats top speed. 180mph 40,000$ car is a great deal lol.

[@hu3.789]

No surprise that the Mickey Thompsons would provide better traction than the Nitto 555rs. Tire quality grade standards were established by the Department of transportation (Uniform Tire Quality Grade Standards (UTQG)). Nitto 555rs have a wear rating of 100. They typically last about 10-15K miles depending on how you drive the car. The Nitto 555rs aren't a true drag radial. It's more of a street tire that you can take to the dragstrip. The Mickey Thompsons have a wear rating of 0. If you're lucky, you might get 5,000 miles out of them. Although they have tread like a regular tire, they have the same compound as the Street R tires (R2). The only purpose the tread has on the MT S/S is so that you're not taking your life in your hands if you get caught in the rain going to and from the dragstrip. M & H Racemasters are also a pretty good drag radial.

[@ReedLovesBiscuits]

You just convinced me to buy a 6.4

[@RacerX9]

Scatpacks are tons of fun 👍

[@hellonwheelz3317]

Thats what I did. You won't regret it.

[@Barkleefan]

I tend to agree. I traded SRT Durango fir HC Durango. Same takeaway. While the cats power is undeniable, the instant torque from the 392 is missed. Especially for throttle blip downshift to decelerate. It's just not predictable with the cat. With 392 engine braking was science. With cat it's more witchcraft.

[@hank3284]

I have the 19 scatpack Challenger as well, on 245 eagle RSA 2 my best street time was 4.4

[@hank3284]

Also have the 3.09 gears as well which you should have in the scatpack too

[@RacerX9]

Wow.. that’s an incredible time on those small tires Frank 👍.. I was spinning like crazy trying to get that sucker out of the hole

[@johnnykilroy9399]

My best with the trash stock tires was a 4.5 had to warm them up and still smoked them off the line. With my nittos I still smoke them but I usually get 4.2-4.4

[@RacerX9]

I think I was in that same range 👍

[@anoint426hemi6]

@@johnnykilroy9399 I think there is a sweet spot on spinning the tires. Spinning gets the car moving faster and the rpm is up to keep it pulling to the next gear. To much spinning and you lose time. It's finding that spinning sweet spot

[@brunodog39]

I have a 2017 Challenger SRT392. Could never get better than 4.6 0-60 on ONE Pirelli PZero Nero all seasons. Would even break traction when nailing the gas at 30-40. But I needed all seasons. Went with Pirelli PEarl All Season Plus, which is a new and improved version in the PZero family. First thing I noticed was the ride was much improved. Then I hit the gas...minimal wheelspin and tires hooked up quickly. Now, 0-60 is 4.2 on the street with all season tires. Can't complain about that!

[@brunodog39]

Meant OEM, not ONE and meant PZero further down. Stupid autocorrect

[@RacerX9]

Sean Pendergast .. yes 4.2 is a solid time 👍

[@Edsrt-]

Good afternoon my friend hope you're having a great week👍👍👍👍👍

[@RacerX9]

Thank you 300SRT-8 .. it’s Friday fun day 👍

[@tommelin7634]

Hey bro, I want to change the tires on my 2019 Challenger Scat Pack and I want ONE set of tires for the street and the track once-in-awhile. What tires do you run on your Challenger when you're not at the track? What you recommend to drive on the street but hold their own on the track too? I live in Michigan so I only drive my car in 3 seasons, it's put up from the first snow until Spring so I'm driving in moderate temperatures, moderate compared to TX, I do drive in rain but never ice or snow. I have fact checked much of your advise and you've never been wrong yet, you're one of the most trustworthy KZbinrs and I've never seen you "push" any particular brand and THAT's one of the reasons I value your advise and why, when I want to know something about my car I scroll through your videos FIRST. Thanks for your videos, they've been VERY informational.

[@richardcerritelli9657]

That's why all-wheel drive is so much better for the streets cuz you always hook up critical for short races light to light when all these punks have their Subaru WRXes LOL

[@RacerX9]

Richard.. yes all wheel drive is king for the short stop light to stop light runs..

[@16srt392]

Might sound like a dumb question but is the 19 Chally Scat the only one that has electric steering? Or do the 15's and up do as well?

[@buckeyeman7631]

555's are garbage on high hp cars. Get the 05R's. I dead hook on the street in my E85 '18 A10 GT, 4.2 with only 490 wheel. I'd chew a Hellcat up rollin' around town...I don't fear them with my set up.

[@RacerX9]

Mustang Man .. I tried both the 05R’s and the 555R’s and they seem to hook about the same on my setup.. although the hellcat makes power very differently than the stang.. 890tq @ 2500 rpm will make any tire feel less than ideal lol

[@buckeyeman7631]

Yeah bud, my lack of torque helps dramatically leave the line easily. For sure. Not sure I'd agree with a 555 being equal to an 05R though. My 05R's hook a lot better than the last set of 555's I had. I think your problem (which is a nice one to have) is all that power you make, especially down low. @@RacerX9

[@amordeweso]

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[@fallendrez]

Wow racer x I ran consistent 4.1’s in my 2020 Charger scat with steering in sport transmission in sport and traction in street and factory 245’s all the way around all while spinning like hell on takeoff on street, the best way to do this is on older asphalt where you can feel the pebbles a little but not loose just textured. It spins too much on new smoooth black asphalt find aged grey asphalt for consistent 4.1’s

[@SRTRELL]

I’m gonna say the scat will win

[@carolinatim]

I just gotta know how you go back to the house and change those tires out in 100 degree heat and not a drop of sweat on you in the next shot. My shirt would be drenched. Maybe Mrs. X changed them for you? Thanks for the videos man, love them.

[@mikemurphy4173]

The scat packs are quick

[@RacerX9]

Yes they are.. 🤜

[@rickeybarnes6471]

What a great detailed review . I own a 2012 Boss302 and 03 Mach 1 and this review was very helpful ! Subscribed!

[@RacerX9]

Welcome to the channel Rickey 🤜🔥🔥

[@cababy1296]

Most random street race situations are going to be spur of the moment from a roll 30 40 50 60

[@RacerX9]

Cababy 12 .. I think I have had anything from a dig to an 80 roll

[@CrazyAboutVinylRecords]

This is a must watch video for all of those guys who think that buying a Hellcat turns them into a street version of John Force or Don Garlits.

[@RacerX9]

Lol.. the street is the equalizer

[@CrazyAboutVinylRecords]

@@RacerX9 And just to be clear I am not down on the Hellcat. I came pretty close to buying one myself. But I walked away from it after considering just how much of that 707hp I could put to use on the street. I have no interest at all in bragging rights...there will almost always be someone out there making more power than you are. My car is strictly a street vehicle and it will never see a drag strip or track. So after kicking that around I decided to save some money and buy a 2019 Challenger Scat Pack Widebody and have no regrets at all.

[@RacerX9]

Nothing wrong with that my friend 🤜

[@anoint426hemi6]

@@CrazyAboutVinylRecords why does owning a Hellcat have to be about bragging rights? You shouldn't stereotype Hellcat owners. Every person has their own reason for what they drive. Ive owned Hemi cars for nearly 50 years and heard that garbage from Chevy guys decades ago but a MOpar guy.. really. I bought a new scat pack challenger and it was a GREAT car but I'm a hp junky (always have been) and needed more so now I have a Hellcat and love it.

[@PowerofPlacebo]

Awesome video bro! Had been blessed to use one of these for a week! Was totally stock 5,000 miles! Was able to get a 4.3 on the street 0-60! & had it up to 151mph🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽yes those same type of tires as well! Have a blessed weekend! No more cracked windshields! 🤷🏽‍♂️👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽FYI this is was all done in Cali!

[@RacerX9]

IKILLEDJESUS .. thanks buddy! 4.3 on the stock tires is impressive 👍.. sounds like you gave that thing a workout lol

[@PowerofPlacebo]

RacerX yes! Was @ night below 75 degrees! In the Bay Area! Was blessed through a national car rental hook up! Black one! Love the new 2019 Hellcat hoods! Only paid for a full size rental & got the 392 instead! 🤷🏽‍♂️😈👍🏽👌🏽🤟🏽 if you master the art of applying pressure to the pedal! & not focus so much on the initial take off! With what you have! 😱🙇🏽 YOULL HAWK MOST FOLKS DOWN,,, except maybe the TRACK HAWK! Pun intended lol! Btw love the wife’s art work on the Scatty!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@PowerofPlacebo]

FYI I leased a 2018 Hellcat 2yrs who! black on black! It had red Brembo brake calipers resonator delete & K&N filter only! With those dark grey 5 spike rims! Not the usual hellcat rims! OMG that whine & 707 is no joke! & regardless what folks think IT HANDLES! Look up Saratoga highway (9) to Santa Cruz (California Santa Clara county) to 1! Straight yeah ok! But curves n corners just how I love women! I digress, the Hemi 5.7 is Goldilocks zone for most! The semi serious & curiously talented drivers! Up for the 392 & or hellcat! Depending on $$$ usually! But a 1,000hp Hellcat? 🤦🏽‍♂️😱😱😱😈😈😈🙇🏽🙇🏽🙇🏽

[@PowerofPlacebo]

Lastly I’ve driven the 2016 2SS! Fast yeah! Very uncomfortable to me & im 6-1! After a hour uugghh! Same for the 2019 SS! Quiet ass V8’s lol! IF AINT MOPAR ITS NO CAR!!! Yes even you V6’s out there! 🤷🏽‍♂️😂😂😂👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@PowerofPlacebo]

ELI JOHNSON that’s your humble opinion! To you matters! But to me not so much! Have a great day!

[@charleshixon1458]

have you tried adding weight to the trunk? Some bags full of concrete or something?

[@hemichallenger3643]

Great video! I loved it. The comparison with tires was equally neat.

[@RacerX9]

Hemi Challenger .. thank you my friend 👍

[@ttcookn8246]

If you can’t get the power to the ground- doesn’t matter how much power you have👍

[@ByKareem]

Lmfao

[@mizell7000]

Mr. X I recently picked up a 2020 Scat Pack...fired off a 0-60 in 4.1 tonight...where do you think I'd be with the addition of drag tire? Appreciate the input and keep pumping out the awesome content!!

[@jakedcoby9]

I love that growl when it grabs that next gear reminds me of my srt8 magnum no where what these new srt cars are doing but it was good for it's time great comparison on the tires

[@RacerX9]

trashy truck stop mechanics .. yes I love that sound as well .. it was a fun little test

[@crankychris2]

Good practical street advice. A fresh pair of M/T's and plenty of practice produces good hole shots It's great your lady loves racing too, man you got a keeper!

[@powerboatguy2308]

The moral of the story is the most cost effective mod you can do to your Challenger if you are not planning to be a drag strip guy, but a stoplight street racer is to get the some good tires. On the flip side, big waste of money putting a lot of power in your car and not going to the track.. Well, I guess for roll racing that power would come in handy. .

[@hxdcml83]

The challenger auto is super quiet. I have a 2019 challenger scat pack shaker manual and it’s super loud and fast AF.

[@jayflex1000]

This is great video. The first mod I would do if I bought a car with lot horsepower is wider and sticky tires. That’s before intake exhaust and so on. My 170k miles 02 mustang GT 5spd with intake exhaust TB and dyno tune makes 250whp 285tq with short shifter and 315s in rear and I have a good suspension actually will hit 60 in About 5 sec flat which I find pretty good for a car with that many miles and not a lot of horsepower

[@RacerX9]

jay02gt .. the street is the equalizer.. power doesn’t always translate! It’s sort of like a golf swing.. controlled and dialed in works better than swinging as hard as you can lol

[@demnuts3145]

Great vid brother. Awesome, great job

[@markjohnson4643]

Im amazed they put less than 265s on cars with 300 or more HP. Especially on a car that's supposed to be performance oriented. 245s used to seem so wide to me back in the late 90s/early 2000s but even back then i knew 300hp is too much for a 245 tire in spirited driving. When i'm driving a compact car, 215s are the minimum I feel safe with. Skinny tires make me feel like i'm on ice skates, especially in the wet.

[@timosaarelainen8431]

Thanks for the great content, taking the time and doing the work. One of the best videos!!!

[@RacerX9]

Thank you Timo

[@ttjeepjl5146]

Been watching your videos, good stuff Have a question,? Where did you get the seatbelt cushion that you have on your scat pack ?

[@RacerX9]

T & T R/ T 5.7. Toby. B Baca .. thank you.. I actually found those on Amazon for like $15 or so..

[@ttjeepjl5146]

Thank you

[@zachfabbian1441]

great video very detailed, well explained and to the point. Keep up the good work.

[@adammeek2280]

I just bought a 2020 challenger scat pack with the 245s on. What's the widest tire I can safely put on the stock rim?