Rachel and Peter Disagree - The Bachelorette

Rachel and Peter have different opinions on what it means to propose on the show. (From The Bachelorette Season 13, Episode 9).

[@sadiegregory7659]

Peter is the type of guy that you really want but at the end of the day he will always be holding back

[@beyourself2444]

Exactly...

[@larissalaflore7202]

Unless you're someone he "really wants."

[@Fivetimesthree]

I honestly believe he wasn’t that into her.

[@zrlazard]

Y'all are so biased for Peter its ridiculous. How do you come on a game show where you KNOW there is a proposal at the end & then not sure you want to propose? When Juan Pablo didn't propose at the end of his season y'all skinned him alive. But Peter doesn't want to propose & suddenly he's "logical". Peter took this show from Rachel night 1. It's become all about him finding love and his happiness instead of Rachel's.

[@77bluegold]

zrlazard right. I'm sure Peter will be ready to propose when he becomes The Bachelor. He is full of shit and led Rachel on. In her blogs about the show, she hardly discusses Peter. I'm sure she is watching the show and realize that he checked on her awhile ago. When he told her that he thought about going home, she should have cut him there.

[@allisona.1047]

Peter didn’t go around talking about “fucking” Rachel and how he loves hooking up with her. Also didn’t tell Rachel about other sexual encounters with other women. Juan Pablo acted like a sleazy pig. That is why he was skinned alive for not proposing. It was a combination of his douchey behavior mixed in with no proposal and no I love you. Peter on the other hand conducted himself like the perfect gentleman and was dignified all the way to the end. Big difference.

[@mariemarin5347]

Idk if u don’t feel u it u don’t .. no one send u come on the show and don’t lose interest the end is a proposals he’s but it doesn’t mean u will stay all in .

[@emilyvalerio7941]

But like rachel made it clear she wants a husband from day one like why even sign up

[@newCreation7]

As much as I understand and respect Peter's practicality, if falling in love and getting engaged is something he needs an ample amount of time to do, then he shouldn't have signed up for a show where the time-span to do those things is squished into a few weeks. Has any bachelorette ever gone through this process and left without an engagement at the end of it? Rachel is a treasure of a woman, and I don't think it's fair for her, as the first black bachelorette, to have to beg for a tangible commitment from Peter. Maybe they could compromise and have a long engagement (like Shawn and Kaitlyn)? This is Rachel's journey. If Peter can't give her what she desires right now, then as handsome as he is, and as beautiful as they would be together, this isn't what's best for either of them.

[@mabelw7]

some people know they wanna marry someone after 1st date

[@anandiganguly3086]

@@mabelw7 but at the same time not every relationship is the same. You can't argue that a relationship needs a specific time to cultivate and solidify just because another relationship did. Every relationship, every person is unique and they should move at their own pace and not be dictated by examples which cite otherwise.

[@andreaturner9259]

Every single thing you said N.M.

[@HyunlixHearts]

It feels like he’s not really interested in pursuing the relationship. I think if Rachel knew his heart was in it, she would compromise. “I don’t want you to give up on what you believe it” is basically asking for an out, politely. He’d fight for her if he wanted her

[@jasminem4853]

Watching this back, I hate to say it but I agree

[@cheriedeparis5000]

He wanted a platform for his business.

[@ramblingrose6604]

Tell her you are MADLY IN LOVE with her and that you CAN'T LIVE without her or GET OFF THE SHOW and let BRYAN and ERIC have a real chance since they DO want to propose !!!

[@9188jenni]

obviously engagement within the context of this show is different. Peter acting like hes not on a show. I agree with Rachels definition.

[@Tootallqaf]

Peter talking about engagements take time, but also told the story of his parents getting engaged after a month. If the feelings are there it can happen in this time frame on the Bachelor. Like I've said before, Peter just isn't into Rachel.

[@claudinestlouis4631]

Tootallqaf his parents were exclusive...not one woman and 30 men

[@Tootallqaf]

Whatever. Peter knew what show he was going on. Every Bachelorette has been proposed to at the end. Some make it some don't, but if Peter saw Rachel as his possible wife in the future, he would propose. That's what I believe Rachel believes.

[@mabelw7]

@@Tootallqaf I agree possible wife gotta take chance

[@marcihodge3768]

He is right about an engagement though. She is ok with being a fiancé for over a year. That is a boyfriend.

[@sandragiant777]

No, that's not a boyfriend - if you're a boyfriend you're not a fiance. Most engaged people wait a year or longer to get married. People are still getting to know each other after an engagement. Why are people pretending that is otherwise.

[@britney598]

Roma Rodgers once your engaged to someone your committed to that person, you already know them and are ready to spend your life with them. Who get engaged and are still dating to see if their compatible, while planning a wedding??

[@tini96]

Yeah I'm kinda confused about that too. But then she said she wants to do it once, too?? Maybe it's because it's the show's tradition and she wants to get that traditional experience, to get engaged at the end.

[@mersikatrina2942]

if rachel picks peter, i really don't know why.if a man said something like that to me, i will know exactly that he's not that into me. simple. i watch this show with my husband and he said the same thing. he said there is no way a man will said something like that if he really likes the girl.

[@kallie1963]

mersi katrina so you would rather him throw out a fake i love you and give you a ring just to break up in a couple months??

[@mersikatrina2942]

+Kallie 19 no. i think if he truly loves her he will hope for the best. who knows what will be happen in the future? maybe they will get married maybe not but at least he should try. have you ever been in love before? if you do, will you say directly to the man that you love that you don't see a marriage with him?

[@claudinestlouis4631]

mersi katrina if I was peter i would have thrown out some fake i love and I see the moon the sun and the stars in your eyes..

[@mersikatrina2942]

+Claudine St Louis thank God i'm married and have a husband who loves me and he doesn't afraid to propose :)

[@StormyKid27]

Stupid

[@taneshacollins8187]

PETER WANTS TO FALL IN LOVE NATURALLY NOT ON A TIME SCHEDULE

[@abimckenzie4525]

Tanesha Collins I respect and love him so much for this but, I'm like bro why did you go on this show lol

[@taneshacollins8187]

Abi McKenzie AGREE

[@LovedByYou]

Tanesha Collins Then DONT go on the Bachelorette Bruh!!! ??????

[@Tojoj22]

Tanesha Collins - Then why come on damn show

[@blinkblinklittlestar83]

He watch this show since forever ..explain to us how on earth he's not aware what he signed up for ? And FYI he audition for bachelor 3 times ... end up in bachelorette and liked a comment about how he should play it safe come 2nd and become the bachelor ... don't you think this guy is a bit fishy ? or u refuse to believe he is actually the fake one ?

[@brandon33139]

She was basically saying to him, "It's you that I want! Please just meet me half way! Peter couldn't do that because, "An engagement is just like getting married?" Get out of here with that lame excuse! How many engagements don't turn out to be marriages? Exactly! This is just his way of backing out! He even seems like a different person (personality-wise) from when the show first began. It's really sad to watch because I like so many others just had such high hopes for them.

[@bec6384]

She just didn’t want to be the bachelorette to “fail” because she ended up not engaged.

[@orlaw.8213]

I'm with Peter on this, she is way too casual about the meaning of the ring.

[@sandragiant777]

I think this is editing. They edited Bryan to look like he excused himself from the table to avoid answering a tough question, when in fact he got up to go to a planned meeting with Rachel's father in the house. If Rachel just wanted a ring and a meaningless engagement, I doubt she would have had to come on this show and upend her life to get that. She sounded to me like she was trying to give Peter a chance to believe that it would be okay to propose to her because they would still have time to get to know each other after the engagement and wouldn't have to be setting a wedding date and sending out wedding invitations a month after the engagement.

[@mariejoseph9277]

I think after the time the know each and other peter gone asking rachel married

[@arichalevas2298]

If he is not ready to get married he shouldn't even be on the show! Obviously he dosn't think she is "the one" or not sure because she is so scared to take the next step with her! I feel like he is fake and just using all of that BS because he really didn't want to get married to her or engaged! This is not just a dating show it's a try to find your wife/husband show I am what did he think he was getting into or what kind of show? I don't think the dude is ready or even really wanted to marry her in the first place I do not think he could even see that future with her. To him it was just dating and he had fun on the show free trips ect. Plus I do think he likes the attention of being on tv even though he won't admit it and tries to play it off! lol He looked scared you could tell marriage or even engagement to her scared him.

[@clarak.mallah4137]

Peter was an entire mistake for this show! He didn't love Rachel.

[@IVYSTARR-i3k]

Well said!

[@jigiw]

he can self evicted? if is not like her.

[@OfficalSDVlog]

How dare Peter be logical and take engagment seriously? Like why even be on this show 😡 . . . Nah, but really. All the couples in this franchise are in a bubble and rarely ever think outside of it. That's why the majority of them don't work out. I honestly believe Peter is in love with her which is why he doesn't opt himself out and joined the show because he was genuinely looking for love. But I guess when it comes down to the wire, engagment is such a huge step and I think that got to him considering that he has only known her for 9 weeks (not even). Yeah I gotta go with P on this one. Wish this show didn't throw around the meaning of an engagment like it was nothing 😟

[@dorcasc.1479]

OfficalSDVlog AMEN! People seem so confused by the fact that this man CLEARLY cares enough to want an "engagement" to be meaningful and not just a superficial act, simply to wrap up a show...

[@MegaCadette55]

OfficalSDVlog he shouldm't have signed up fo the show.simple!

[@avabarrios9191]

Rosa maybe he thought that he would be in love by now before signing up

[@eunice286]

OfficalSDVlog I think he falling for her but he is not in love with her at this point.

[@eunice286]

OfficalSDVlog Rachel should not trust Peter with just a commitment because he already said he had issues in his last relationship .he left a woman he was literally still in love with .History is repeating itself ,he cannot completely let himself fall in love . Please go back to your therapist

[@Mimi48]

This was experimentation for Peter. Period.

[@ReinibaChan]

He was there for a good time from the get go, and to “see if he might end up being into her”, he was not there necessarily to pursue her.

[@alexandriat5950]

I feel like if this was any other guy, she would have sent him packing. she seems to be really into him to put up with his strong resistance. I don't think he is all that into her, but maybe I'll be surprised..

[@Lvcharm]

Marjee Tarr ... How would she have known to "send him packing"? They haven't had a rose ceremony since this conversation😒

[@bosstwouharvard2194]

Agree, I think if he was one of the black guy, she would have sent him home.

[@carolinagirl1864]

Dude better be ready for the hot seat with Chris Harrison because the way he ran his mouth about Bryan and now not wanting to propose....he is ABC's dream guy.They are going chew him up and spit him out. Peter did you not watch the show before you went on it??? IF he is not ready to propose on this show,that may be the reason he does not get the the bachelor gig? I guess it will be how the public reacts to him after the show is over.

[@clarak.mallah4137]

And she's right! Peter wasn't ready! Engagement means marriage, true but it can be broken! Peter wasn't going to propose in years to come. Byran was the best choice.

[@persephoneharrison3439]

If these men spoke to their girlfriends or other women in their lives, who love them the same way, they talk to Rachel and put all the effort into her, then they would already be married.

[@diemmarley1217]

Dump him, Rachel. He is not the one for u.

[@myfosterpets___3267]

Omg ...... and this is why she pick Bryan .

[@sandragiant777]

Jahaira, if Rachel ends up picking Bryan, it will be because Peter pushed her into Bryan's arms. As much as Bryan is pursuing her, you can see that Rachel actually prefers Peter, but Peter isn't giving her enough to work with. Rachel always has to be the one chasing Peter, Peter doesn't chase her or initiate, and that's not a good sign.

[@Vineyarding]

The editors have done nothing but use the show to PROMOTE Peter. Thank goodness both Rachel and Bryan are confident enough or they will need to be to endure the skewed editing of their story.. I believe she chooses Bryan but I also believe that if Peter had shown her his interest in her in a more demonstrative way, Rachel would have had a more difficult decision to make. Peter is making it easier for her by using his OWN CHARMS and good looks to his cool, calm and collected advantage. He has just sat back while Rachel pursued him ad he received her desire and interest in him. He worked very little to win her while Bryan worked his but off to win her heart since he wanted her before he even got to the show and he had no idea what kind of competition he would have. He was a man with a made up mind that Rachel was going to be his woman and thats why I believe he came on so demonstratively strong and confident. That was his way to fight for her!

[@sweetsweet273]

That's the main problem with this relationship and how it evolved through the show. . Rachel was too obviously into Peter and he knew it from day 1. She almost behaved like a teenage girl next to him which only comforted him without challenginh him into pursuing her and show her how much he wanted to build something with her. He's also the guy she was almost always begging to kiss her. However when the guy she was in school with politely asked if he could kiss her, she made a big deal out of it as if it was a proof of his immaturity whatsoever. I think he ended up developping genuine feeling for her but had she left him more space to come to her rather than the opposite, maybe he would have had to work more to get her and be more on synch woth what he truly wanted. Basically ot kinda went from you dont have to do anything and make any effort because I'm in charge, to you need to sacrifice your "values" for this lady you've just met and make a serious decision now. Talk about a roller-coaster.

[@CreativeLii]

Nothing against Peter. He Seems like a nice guy but he shouldn’t have come on this show if he wasn’t ready to propose at the end. And if he didn’t realize it until after he already came then he should’ve communicated that earlier instead of at the end. She sent a lot of guys home that would’ve gotten down on one knee for her at the end of this.

[@edrineernamagloire7899]

Peter is scared of making a commitment. That's the same thing he did to his ex girlfriend and then he regretted. He will regret not giving Rachel the assurance of engagement because she is so in love with him. And if he is the next bachelor he might not want to engage either. Well, that's not what the show is about. Its about getting a fiance' not a boyfriend

[@evattamach1699]

Maybe Abc forgot to tell Rachel that she had to support Peter to prepare for Bachelor only and not fall in love with him hence he had made his agreement with them already. Now he is in a tough situation.

[@mcwxiiiwhite8676]

Peter new the expectations before he agreed to be a contestant on the show. He knew that Rachel was looking for a husband. I hate it when men BS about commitment. He simply doesn't want to get married and he knew it when he agreed to be on the show; he should be disqualified based upon that alone.

[@dorcasc.1479]

DEFINITION OF ENGAGEMENT: A FORMAL AGREEMENT TO GET MARRIED, as defined by Webster's Dictionary..... I have to say, Rachel seems a bit confused & frankly, she's got ME VERY CONFUSED....In this scene, she's basically saying that she wants to "cultivate a relationship", which, to me means DATING/a monogamous Relationship, but she wants a PROPOSAL to do so....Peter is FAR MORE REALISTIC than Rachel. I can't fathom "getting down on one knee", just to "see where this goes", simply because I want an "engagement", that may or may NOT last, at the end of this journey. If Rachel wants to be engaged only ONCE, you would think that she would want to cultivate a COMMITMENT FIRST and then an engagement and, eventually a marriage. Rachel's definition of "engagement" is AWFULLY CONFUSING TO ME...She's basically saying that she wants to "date" under the label "engagement".....She and Peter are BASICALLY saying the SAME thing only one of them is defining it as COMMITMENT, while the other is defining it as ENGAGEMENT...These two are so deeply, emotionally connected that they should just throw away the labels and simply enjoy the beautiful journey they're on, allowing it to grow into a forever love story. They certainly have everything it takes to make things work -- they need to FORGET the labels and definitions....My hope is to see the best & most REALISTIC Bachelorette coupling I've ever seen, find common ground to build a life upon -- they certainly have what it takes....Hope springs eternal....Looking at them, I'm reminded of the song lyrics: " Passion is fine but passion burns fast, passion's design seems never to last. Better a match, better a blend; who needs a lover, I need a friend"...

[@liz5473]

Dorcas C. Exactly. Its not a "get to know you stage" you're already past that and have agreed with the other party that you are both ready for marriage. People on this show are very confused

[@queenadereign1600]

Dorcas C. How TF is Rachel confused she is trying to share her thoughts because she's still giving him a chance she is communicating to him where she is at right now and the whole point of her being on Nick's season and now her own is to find a man who is ready to be a HUSBAND!

[@queenadereign1600]

And don't be disrespectful this woman graduated from UT and is an ATTORNEY so that dictionary definition you pulling out is pointless to a woman who is the dictionary. You are the only confused person here 😒

[@kallie1963]

🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@myhulagirl2]

YES.....I think they should go the "high school" route and get, "pre-engaged", and she can call it whatever the F she wants!!! She OBVIOUSLY is NOT ready for a HUSBAND!!! She just said that herself, if you listen to what she said!!

[@rikerich1769]

Its loud and clear that Peter is unsure about his feeling for rachel, plain and simple. BUT Rachel is so obvious in love with him and its hard for her to let him go. In the next episode I believe that Peter still make it to the F2 and she will struggle with her own decision between keep him as the F1 or choose the other guy

[@bexcube8496]

How was this 4 years ago? Omg!

[@TheNewsWave]

cold calculated Peter.

[@MissAki1]

But why come on the show if you don't want to propose... like jeesh, just go on tinder or eharmony and date...Rachel definition of engagement is confusing because she is trying to compromise because he is backing down and she really wants to consider him and a future husband...NEVER SETTLE, stay true to yourself, go for what you want..don't be afraid to move on

[@swazidlomo3987]

peter just dumped her...

[@TrustinHewhoknows]

Swazi Dlomo sad but true... black women give of themselves the most and get zip!

[@77bluegold]

I'm sure Peter will make a magically turn around when he becomes The Bachelor. He told Rachel that he would tell her that he wasn't there yet before it got to the end. I wish Rachel cut Peter awhile ago. There were other guys there who wanted to be with her. Also, Rachel said on twitter that ABC edited that scene poorly. I doubt Peter would have even continued to date Rachel with the cameras off if she went around thoughts on an engagement.

[@jereventrentals]

I feel like she didn't want to marry Peter but the fact that Peter was giving opposition. I think that is what she was struggling with. Because all the other men give into her and Peter was giving her a run for money!! From the beginning she always praised Brian.

[@sumalife212]

He seems to be casual and in diff place

[@OneTwoTia]

I'm going to laugh when Peter is announced as the next bachelor and proposes at the end of his season after spending the last 2 months saying this process isn't enough time for that.

[@anniemitchell2436]

I'll bet he's not waiting on sex until after marriage. Where is the sacredness he claims when it's about sex? More sacred than being engaged .

[@sashiyamamoto2213]

Do the contestants not realize what show they are on?

[@Rbbajdjdbbx]

Rachel wanted a marriage, Peter wanted a true partner

[@queenadereign1600]

Ok so for all you Peter fans that have been missing the point since this man walked out the limo let me point something out for y'all if you can take a quick look at the logo for this show in place of the o is what...... an 💍 because that is the whole point Of this show and Peter knows this yet is now dumbfounded so please stop criticizing Rachel for her desires and hit up Peter once he is eliminated AND EVEN IN THE REAL WORLD ENGAGEMENTS ARE NOT SET IN STONE

[@queenadereign1600]

Like Rachel is communicating her feelings to him and has told him what she needs from him because she is still giving him a chance. And he is basically rejecting her yet staying in the house🤔

[@brittanybrow.n]

All these emotions I'm feeling after this damn episode is literally going to have me in a psych ward rocking back and forward like, "she should choose Peter, but what if he doesn't propose iddly diddly."

[@MusiqQueen6]

Peter fans are so stupid and blinded by his good looks. He is not that into Rachel but is hanging on for as long as possible so he can get the bachelor gig. That's why this is my second and last season of this show, barely anyone has good intentions

[@claudiabezaka3222]

When Rachel and Brian wore the matching watch in front of Peter and Eric, he saw the writing on the wall and pulled away. Eric saw it too.

[@survivor6710]

I have been team Peter up until watching this like come on Peter you know want the show is .. I just don't know.. he seems cold on this episode

[@claudinestlouis4631]

Hiwi Haile he should give her a fake i love u to please some of us

[@redamancy13]

Claudine St Louis he did say he was "falling in love" but he didn't say he was in love. Both eric and bryan have said there in love not falling in love so idk. I thought it was a bit suspicious how he said it right before meeting her family.

[@alemlajamir7854]

Peter came to the show for playing the game. He came just to earn fame and popularity with a motive become the bachelor in the next season. So sad, quite disappointed.

[@littlebird8346]

Your analysis is overly simplistic

[@theworldsonheroin]

Uh my heart!!!!! While I'm loving the hot tub scene this conversation should have happened way back them. Peter said 'we have so much ground to cover'. Now look pachel stans are about to be heart broken...😭😭😭

[@petalpusherfanvideos3107]

V I am staying hopeful. If nothing else, that is two more weeks of happiness, I get in my life. LOL Aug 7 will be a nail biter for sure! Stay strong. ;)

[@LovedByYou]

This is about Rachel and her journey! Peter can have his own journey when he becomes the Bachelor!!

[@Tojoj22]

Jessica O OMG no girl Peter is too weak for love, if he gets the gig Pachal fans will drag him to hell 😂

[@survivor6710]

TOJO J ikr if she doesn't propose to her and become a bachelor then it would mean that he wasn't into Rachel

[@theworldsonheroin]

Hiwi Haile I don't see him as that much of a sociopath. to lie to her and her family in hopes of becoming thr next bachelor.

[@taneshiadavis4275]

peter just want to be the next bachler

[@persephoneharrison3439]

What interesting is the show is about women who are single meeting the man is gonna be the one. If Peter wasn’t ready to get married, and the show is about finding husbands then why did he sign up?

[@mythoughts6229]

Peter should firmly ask Rachel "How do you feel about me at this point of time?" " Where do you see our relationship will lead to?" "How do I know whether you will say the same things to the other two guys?" Yes, she does know what she wants but with which guy?? That is why any sensible guys if being put into that kind of situation will not say those lovely things or empty promises, what if things didn't workout that way it should be and of course no one wants to be hurt and feel humiliated in the public eyes . Like previous Bachelor and Bachelorette episodes the final 2 always ended up one will hurt so badly because of he or she thrown themselves or invested so much love, in the end not being chosen. Rachel is not giving him a slightest hint or sign that is why he is still skeptical and that is nothing wrong to feel that way.

[@amandaebest]

I'm confused. Why did he go on the show? .......a proposal is an engagement for marriage, how are there multiple definitions for someone asking for your hand in marriage?

[@jigiw]

Amanda i'm more confuse he saids 3 times and more h's see him self married with rachel 4 life 1date?,sh's muse...now he have opportunity to put the engagement Ringggg! suspect is late bloomer!F1 peter is so hurt by woman is maybe scare bryan F1 and i realy don't know i understand him, but rachel repeat many times with nick too she want engagement not boyfriends!

[@shermagill8856]

Peter, you blamed yourself for walking out on your last gf. The Bachelorette was not the show for you. You should have excused yourself from the show long ago. Rachel did not go there to get a boyfriend, she did it for a potential husband, she is The Bachelorette and I don't think she should wait on you to fall in love with her, or is it a payback for she buying the watch for Bryan Lol.😂

[@elliehcain]

I'm on Team Peter and Eric. Part of me gives props to Peter for being the one logical dude ever. But then again, like bro, nothing is logical about this show. She dates like 30 men and comes back with one in only 9weeks. She wants to be engaged and this will be a deal breaker. I see his perspective, like it's 9 weeks, to engaged in 9 weeks is a lot. He only wants to get engaged/married once, and wants to get to know her more before he ties the knot. But Bryan was ready and Peter would've gotten the final rose, if he gave her reassurance that he would propose. But Bryan was just ready. I am still on team Peter and Eric

[@TrustinHewhoknows]

SorayaM24 If at the end of all this if he does not come through...He is a plain douche! Why even come on the show?! Heartless and self-absorbed is what he is😑 If they even think of making him Bachelor I will puke.

[@YankeesGirlxoxo]

I can't stand Peter. I really hope he gets sent home. Even his mom said he's not ready for a marriage..

[@tbaby6083]

They both want the same thing with each other just want to take different paths to get there.

[@enel9961]

I see your point, but tbh when a man loves a woman, he'd never dare to blink. I just don't think that's how it goes when it comes to loving someone... either you're into someone or you're not. simple as that, and people make love complicated only when they don't want to compromise or see the other persons perspective. Or, when they want to find excuses out of the relationship. Look at how many excuses he makes up. Peter does not like Rachel in that way! lollll...

[@madinamaxamed4928]

if he's not ready to get married then he should sing for the show on the first time

[@pourladentelle]

I think she sabotaged this one because she lacks patience and a sense of reality...I was incredibly confused by her definition!!!

[@77bluegold]

Frogs Dance Rhapsody on Twitter Rachel said that ABC did a poor edit. She said that she wanted to be with someone who wanted her and wanted to be with her. Peter is the classic "he not into guy".

[@arichalevas2298]

How much patience do you need? He is really into her and sees a future with her or he dosn't! This show are for people that are ready to get married obviously! And take that step further with someone and what he is saying he is just not sure she is "the one" I would dumb his ass too! Plus he is too materialistic and into himself

[@TheresaB-wg4ku]

This is why you don't marry after 3 months,shes getting a divorce now. Some get lucky and it works, but,you should never rush a marriage,but,also don't wait to long either or one may leave,of they truly want a spouse.

[@jimlivininoz]

who is here in 2024 after Rachels Divorce to Brian

[@prettyako33]

Peter you are slowly becoming sleek and you playing your cards right i see... I get his hesitation and all but i have this funny feeling he will accept the position of the bachelor if given to him! He is playing with her, probably noticed at some point her connection with Bryan and got his walls up, but for him to say this process is too fast....hmm(raises eyebrows) liar. HE is trying to win the people at home and end up being the bachelor! if that wasn't his aim to begin with.. Don't get me wrong i was the biggest Peter fan but his flip flopping is irritating and looks very disingenuous..

[@brownietime902]

Where was the black out SUV to pick him up and take him to the Airport, Mr. Walls Up. First engagement in his life would be to a black woman scares the crap out of him. You decided for your first experience dating a black woman to do it on National TV for 8 weeks. Date one of us off camera first. #TeamEric All Day. #lastmanstanding #TEAMERICFANS

[@bienfaitmboni]

ahahaha you just killed me ahahha

[@sandragiant777]

Cookie Tee, thank you. Funny and true.

[@karahd3545]

dumb statement.

[@brownietime902]

Karah D That would be you. My view, PERIOD! Go on another show with that BS!!

[@Lvcharm]

Karah D ... lol..you can say that again

[@tyracooley6782]

bye Peter

[@cmbutterbell]

Is Rachel for real! Hope she picks Brian. They deserve each other.

[@kristenpotter377]

I actually agree with Peter 💯 because he doesn't want things to be pressured or rushed, he did the right thing by not rushing engagement. He wants to be sure that he's doing the right thing because had he went along with the engagement stuff then him and Rachel might not have made it. There's a reason he is holding back because marriage is a serious thing to not take lightly. And look, even though Rachel married Michael we all see it didn't work out. So Peter did the right thing.

[@kristenpotter377]

My bad I ment to say Bryan not Michael lol.

[@phillygyrl34]

Damn it y'all....if this isn't a Twin Flame Soul connection.....I don't know what is....

[@calamity786786]

wait until two weeks from now. they stopped the conversation for drama. time will tell. they haven't gotten to the fantasy suite yet. Lots of editing again.

[@kiefercrowley4279]

I feel like she should pull a Brad Womack and get a serious do-over (with more respect from the producers) because this season went from great to awful.

[@LovedByYou]

This is the beginning of #SaintPeters downfall!. Look 👀 at his body language! He is not into his women! And regardless to how "realistic" his approach is that is NOT the show!! I watched this interview where Rachel says "that conversation brought up my insecurity of guys in my past who loved me but didn't want to commit to me in the long run" If he truly cares, he needs to push himself more, try harder and make her feel wanted!!

[@CMill-ni7dr]

He needs to run as fast away from her as possible, she sleeps with Erica and Bryan..This is real life..diseases...

[@LovedByYou]

Sheryl Louise 😘😘

[@LovedByYou]

C. Mill The fantasy Suites happen every season, for both the men and women! She has said many times she did not sleep with all of them! But even if she did.... Peter will get his fair share of fantasy Suites when he becomes the bachelor!! He would be LUCKY to be with her, let's get that straight!!

[@phillygyrl34]

C. Mill she doesn't sleep with all of them...

[@Tojoj22]

Jessica O girl I agree Peter can kick rocks send him to paradise can't stand him

[@ReinibaChan]

Lol Peter is the late bloomer lol

[@mmdmmj1]

Nope...Bryan was

[@judyugorcak8648]

Yeah, this is a conversation you have in the first few weeks, not at the very end. I'm a little surprised that Rachel did not address this issue with him early on. What a sad ending for Peter. I wish Rachel and Bryan all the best as they begin their new life together.

[@eunice286]

He is good at breaking up.

[@benoitrafeli8320]

OMG! This guy is sooooo annoying! ugh!

[@renatek7571]

after this conversation I have given up! my heart can't take this no more ! I am seriously thinking she chose Bryan now! !!😣

[@sadiobathily7087]

Renate k she did ! Her friend gave it away! She is having an engagement party in Miami !

[@DeMiiLoVaTorocks]

Okay, so for all of you saying that Peter shouldn't have gone on the show if he knew what he was getting into, here's the thing: He KNEW what he was getting himself into, he OPENED HIMSELF UP TO THE PROCESS, and only later realized that it wasn't something that would work for him which is why I don't think it was fair of Rachel to say he was "stringing her along." Peter made it very clear that he wasn't sure if he would propose fairly early on and as soon as he had real reservations, he said he would let her know, which he did.

[@valeriebuzaglo6838]

I agree with peters definition of an engagement 100% (=time between announcement of getting married to actual date of wedding). Whereas Rachel's definition of engagement is basically dating with hopes of getting married one day.. having said that, although i agree with peter, i don't believe he's into her 💯 and if he's not feeling it now I don't think he ever will. He might still turn around we'll see..

[@busisiwekgwedi8437]

I love how Peter is honest

[@Morgan41B]

If Rachel picks Bryan in the end (which I think she will), it will be because she and Peter couldn't get on the same page about this. Clearly she's falling hard for him, or he wouldn't still be there. I just hope she doesn't put the proposal and the ring above finding the right guy. If she is actually with Bryan they both should be mad about how their relationship has been shown, because their love story is not what is unraveling before us. It's Rachel and Peter's. Rachel should be bracing herself for the reaction if she does pick Bryan. If she's expecting people to just jump on board with it, I think she's really mistaken and production will be to blame. The editing this season has been a complete mess. Rachel says that this was heavily edited to the point of not portraying what she was really saying. I hope we get clarity about what engagement is to her during the finale, because in what we've seen it sounds like she's describing dating with a ring. Engagement is supposed to be enough time to plan the wedding, typically 6 months to a year, tops. I totally understand where Peter is coming from, I'm anxious to see the rest of the conversation. Again, I just hope Rachel does not let the expectations of this process keep her from the one she's supposed to be with.

[@lucyxu2618]

If you look at his body language and hers there’s a clear difference: both her legs are angled toward him (I am considering going all in) and one of his other leg is angled out (I’m not sure I want to, I’m hoping there’s a way out)

[@bienfaitmboni]

This dude isnt that into you Rachel, just give him a ticket out dear lol STOP MAKING SOMEONE LOVE YOU DUH

[@frannie7121]

I don't like Peter she should have kept Dean.

[@Tiffehhhhh]

I agree with Peter that the meaning of getting engaged is to get married and set a date. Rachel is confusing as hell, you can continue to grow a relationship without being engaged so I don't agree with her definition of being engaged. However Peter knew the time limit of the show and that you are expected to propose at the end so if that's not what he wanted he shouldn't have signed up... This makes me so sad he has been my favorite since the beginning but now I'm irritated that he's hesitating. :/

[@sadiobathily7087]

I hate Peter! Why is he on the show in the first place? Poor Rachel, she really wants him but he doesn't love her enough to propose! He is waisting her time and made her cry, I feel sorry for her ..

[@eliastta437]

Sadio Bathily I hate bryan

[@eliastta437]

also he said he has to make sure he's ready not that he definitely won't do it

[@sandragiant777]

And when is he going to be ready - a year from now, 5 years from now, 10 years? Is Rachel just supposed to put her life on hold until he gets ready, leave her life and friends and be exclusive to him, make his life comfortable like a wife would do, unti he gets ready?!

[@sadiobathily7087]

EliasTTA I hate Bryan too but she picked him. I'm so sad Peter couldn't get there ..

[@jozigalm8159]

I dont like him anymore either... sorry but hes an ass. He has serious commitment issues!!! Why'd he have to come on Rachels season, make her fall for him, only to come back with this shit!! If he doesnt believe in rash decisions then why da fuk he come on this show man!!! im so mad.

[@swazidlomo3987]

juan Pablo... they better not make him the bachelor. he need to go back to therapy

[@taneshacollins8187]

Peter is not ready. He will be the next bachelor.

[@maureenmucureezi7099]

So then he will be ready?? What's the difference??? Wierdo just fame seeker

[@EveCheks]

Time now to take a break of this freaking show.......Its indeed true. Rachel loved Peter but he wasn't into her just yet! Bryan won guys.....Respect to ya'll.

[@OGdcpatient]

Peter and Rachael wore me out !!! 😢😅😮

[@greasygemini]

I remember on mesnicks season the lady he proposed to was so furious because he took that away from her no one wants to be engaged then it taken back. Same with nick when he proposed to Kaitlyn she took that away from him. Peter is wise in standing by his convictions a proposal shouldn't be about let's get engaged and see what happens when you get engaged that means you love each other so much you can get married the next day. When my hubb proposed we got married in 5 months. None of this lets get to know each other let's see how it goes. Engagement means marriage I agree with Peter. She and other are dipping the bachelorette cool aid that is not real life. I admire his realism.

[@wendymutema4451]

I have been team Peter all this while but im just about done with this dude. In a way I get what he means but then again why even go to this show. It's not a secret, we all know how this works. If he wanted more than 2months then he should have meet at girl at the supermarket or park or something! You can't sign up and then act all brand new and call it honesty. This is not fair and not right. He shouldn't have signed up for this. He's being honest at someone else's expense. But I gotta give it to him...He's singlehandedly managed to make Bryan look good in less than 3episodes lol

[@jigiw]

juan pablo bachelor and brad bachelor not engaged with they F1Only 2 bachelor do that but never bachelorette ?anyways rachel said she in love she have fiancee and happy i supect is peter!i'm team pachel...

[@Etta319]

The way he was looking at her in the beginning. Ughhhh

[@queendd8387]

I'm getting a Desiree and Brooks vibe from their relationship meaning Peter might leave her heartbroken and her ending up with Bryan 😣😣

[@Candace-M-]

Ugh.. This gave me a headache while watching this scene.. This really is a big issue and a deal breaker in a lot of relationships... They both only want to be married once, but she is saying it's possible that after getting engaged that it's just the next step to see if it will work out and marriage might not happen... and he's saying that engagement means you are already committed to getting married and that is how I feel about it too. That's tough man... 😳 I hope they worked it out bc he seems to be a really good guy but if not then its for the best.

[@taneshacollins8187]

She sleeps with Eric and Bryan. I bet Peter doesn't want to

[@CMill-ni7dr]

Tanesha Collins She has conducted herself in an undignified manner, Peter should not sleep with her, he'll find the right woman for him..yet, they are holding hands..

[@taneshacollins8187]

C. Mill I AGREE.

[@LovedByYou]

C. Mill Um... Rachel is a beautiful, educated, fun loving woman! She is a catch beyond all means! The fact that you feel like you can call her at worst "undignified", makes me think you are someone who thinks highly of all the decisions you have made in your life and that those decisions are not worthy of judgment?!? People have this twisted. Peter is the lucky one.

[@liz5473]

Tanesha Collins I don't understand sleeping with Eric when you know you're going to eliminate him the next day. That's so wrong.

[@liz5473]

Jessica O You cannot talk about her as if she is a perfect being with 0 faults. Frankly, ive found an issue with many people on this show Including Rachel. They are putting snippets of their life out there knowing what it will bring

[@alaskaj9786]

Anybody else want to be in a long ass healthy relationship first

[@FineAfroHairHappines]

His body language is the opposite of the words coming out of his mouth...

[@bienfaitmboni]

i dont know man, Peter isnt just that into Rachel, it is sad but also humiliating for Rachel lol

[@aditikallyat7451]

they both want the same things but they want it very differently. & they both are at fault in their own ways. If peter knew he'd have reservations then he should've never participated given that a proposal and a fairytale unrealistic romance is the theme of the show. I feel Rachel is basically stating that she wants a boyfriend who'll commit to marriage but she also wants a ring in the end so that she doesn't look bad on national television. I mean all the other bachelorettes got it so she wants it too and that's fair but she's focusing too much on that instead of the relationship. Sucks because they would've been PERFECT together. #pachel

[@sacdiyaa1]

True.

[@AMinnie]

A lot of people come on this show very skeptical and before meeting someone, it is delusional to assume that you're going to propose to them. A lot of people do not value the intensity and depth of marriage anymore and that is why you keep trying fault Peter for not wanting to propose after a couple of weeks. His parents story gave him some kind of hope. The reason couples on this show don't work out so much (aside from obvious show related reasons) is because of these unrealistic expectations they all have. I mean how long have Kaitlyn and Shaun been engaged? That's not what Peter wants. But Rachel wants that. Peter wants the exact same thing but she wants to do it with a ring on her finger. There is so much I could unravel here but whatever. People who don't like him won't like him and will continue to lie that he just wanted to be the bachelor.

[@zarabee9573]

I WISHED & CRYED THEY WERE TOGETHER! HE FUCKED UP!

[@AM-mg7gj]

I agree with Peter. If you are engaged you are planning to be married and just need to set the time. What is she thinking??