This roll was played by the composer! Rachmaninoff’s Prelude in C Sharp Minor on an AMPICO player piano.
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@angellohector Жыл бұрын
2023: learn coding with Python 1923: learn piano coding with Rachmaninoff
@evifnoskcaj Жыл бұрын
Now this actually sounds like how Rachmaninoff plays! The rubato, dynamics, and sensibility is all how Rachmaninoff actually played. Incredible technology!
@toronado455 Жыл бұрын
It's very sensitive playing.
@frazzledude Жыл бұрын
What is truly amazing is that it was done without any electronics. The only electric component was an electric motor that ran the vacuum pump. The system that recorded and reproduced the pedaling was invented and patented by Josef Hofmann.
@elias7748 Жыл бұрын
Dynamics on player pianos are not accurate, but the rubato is.
@bobdagranny7431 Жыл бұрын
@@frazzledude hofmann himself played what i consider to be the best recording of the piece lol
@evifnoskcaj11 ай бұрын
@@frazzledude Wow! That is a fascinating bit of music history! Wow...I knew he was a brilliant pianist, but now I'm aware that he was quite the prolific inventor, as was his eldest son, Josef Anton Hofmann. Thank you for imparting your knowledge.
@grandcarriage1 Жыл бұрын
I wish you could talk a bit more about the piano. It's not merely a player grande. It's a reproducing piano, with a lot of extras that allow it to authentically reproduce the actual performance, including but not limited to tempi, dynamics, etc. It's REALLY REALLY COOL.
@marquamfurniture Жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, Gershwin made a made a piano roll on a recording piano. Are there others? Does anyone know?
@thomasturrin8984 Жыл бұрын
@@marquamfurniture Gershwin definitely recorded reproducing piano rolls - exclusively for the Aeolian Duo-Art, the primary competitor to the Ampico system shown in this video. Pianists of that time period often had exclusive contracts to record rolls for either Ampico or Duo-Art just as had for making records (for Victor or Columbia or other label).
@marquamfurniture Жыл бұрын
@@thomasturrin8984 Oh yes! Who was the guy who made rolls under 5 or 6 different names? .... But it's really the recording piano rolls that are the most interesting. I think Ravel may have made one.
@thomasturrin5509 Жыл бұрын
@@marquamfurniture That guy was Frank Milne. He used a number of pseudonyms. He was a very talented musician to have been able to create a vast output of intricately arranged of popular music rolls I agree the best rolls, in my opinion, were the hand played rolls that were recorded
@marquamfurniture Жыл бұрын
@@thomasturrin5509 Thanks, Thomas.
@Hashbrownsandsausages6 ай бұрын
It is almost terrifying in a way, that Rachmaninoff, a dead composer, can still be heard preforming his own pieces 80 years after his death. It is equally incredible and rare to have Rachmaninoff's own recording of himself playing his own piece. Amazing. Just amazing.
@hedegaard86 ай бұрын
You mean like when we hear a CD?
@charliewhiskey84406 ай бұрын
@@hedegaard8 more like an (analogue) midi recording
@agamaz56506 ай бұрын
omg same thoughts oldschool midi, the piano roll is the midi and the piano is pianoteq xddd@@charliewhiskey8440
@hauerhsieh5 ай бұрын
heard of recordings? 😅
@charliewhiskey84405 ай бұрын
@@hauerhsieh A typical recording records the sound waves as it appears at the mic. This seems to be is a recording of the force and velocity (I may not be 100% correct here) the composer himself exerted on the piano keys. This would be quite different material not generally available.
@finnianreilly18316 ай бұрын
Amazing performance. The technology was incredible for it's time. I wonder how they captured the dynamics.
@MichaelAChang Жыл бұрын
That's a unique interpretation for sure - I have never heard anything like it!
@PiotrBarcz Жыл бұрын
That's the composer's own recording, it's incredible!
@AidenMartin Жыл бұрын
It's incredible that is seems like Rachmaninoff could reach the low C# with out rolling the chord in bar 27 and so on. His hands must really have been huge.
@solitarymusician Жыл бұрын
Love listening to composers playing their own work. Thank you for sharing!
@mvmarchiori Жыл бұрын
I imagine Rachmaninov's ghost like playing invisibly in front of the piano, thinking he should do some poltergeist stuff to the prelude roll and be done with it forever haha
@pjotrkolster Жыл бұрын
Oh I just got this in my recommended. Such a neat player piano! Wow, hearing Rachmaninov play this is so interesting. Usually composers do play their own pieces a bit differently than they're notated, and this was really interesting to see/hear! :)
@PiotrBarcz Жыл бұрын
Fancy seeing my dutch doppleganger here xD
@pjotrkolster Жыл бұрын
@@PiotrBarcz hehe yes. ;)
@darknightfawkes1028 Жыл бұрын
If you could get the piano in tune and set up some stereo large diaphragm microphones and get more rolls of recorded performances from Sergey rachmaninoff then my heart would melt.
@ExSkyCyclePilot Жыл бұрын
I think that has been done. Search for Rachmaninoff's Ampico recordings!
@frazzledude Жыл бұрын
@@ExSkyCyclePilot I believe they are available in the "Window in Time" series of audio recordings.
@michaeltutty15406 ай бұрын
The piano needs both tuning and voicing. The modern hammers are a bit too hard. Ever so slightly softer would make a richer sound.
@petermacleod57106 ай бұрын
Agreed. The tuning is DIRE, I could do better than that and i have only ever tuned my own Bechstein
@jfulysse9629 Жыл бұрын
I love your smile !! You look so happy with your player piano. Thanks a lot fot sharing that !!!!
@Ghju5108 ай бұрын
It’s so creepy and amazing! imagine if you was sleeping and suddenly it just started playing I would run for my life .
@lawriefoster55874 ай бұрын
At 71 years old I want one of these. Just imagine......!!
@MootPoot6 ай бұрын
crazy the technology we had 100 years ago, thanks for sharing!
@VetsrisAuguste Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed watching you enjoy the performance. Your body language says it all.
@kalynnscompositions Жыл бұрын
How wonderful! This is really cool! (:
@Lone_Rocket6 ай бұрын
Humans are incredible. No computers, nothing but gears and moving parts, zero software, its reading off a sheet of paper with holes in it for crying out loud. I haven't the foggiest of clues how you not only record on one of those but how that piano reads and translates it. Freaking 100 years ago. Simply incredible.
@TheLifeisgood725 ай бұрын
Fun fact: we still don’t know how early piano rolls were recorded. The tech was lost in WW2.
@PeterKharitonov Жыл бұрын
Simply super great! Thank you for uploading and sharing!
@KeyNotes-qu9zh Жыл бұрын
This is so amazing. Thanks for sharing, you're wonderful! 🤗
@homay91566 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing.❤
@jamesnicholson3313 Жыл бұрын
Lovely reproduction, I love this on the AMPICO, I used to restore these instruments in AUSTRALIA and enjoyed the result. Jim from AUSTRALIA.
@simongross3122 Жыл бұрын
How wonderful
@DidierGuillion7 ай бұрын
Amazing ! Fantastique !
@joeschu7794 Жыл бұрын
Very Interesting. Thanks for sharing
@owl-on-a-skateboard Жыл бұрын
Interesting! Thank you!
@danypiano7822 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful 👍
@ColtDee6 ай бұрын
lovely.
@BsktImp Жыл бұрын
Raises that already well-trodden colloquy on whether or not the composer-performer is the best interpreter of their own work, and also of the evolution of interpretation. I would bet that piano competition juries would likey mark down Rachmaninov's performance if played today by a young competitor.
@toronado455 Жыл бұрын
You're probably right! Nonetheless, it's a legit interpretation, no one can argue that! And at the very least it is an interesting time travel back to before the interpretation evolution on this particular work began.
@BsktImp Жыл бұрын
@@toronado455 Oh don't get me wrong; if it appeared that I was negatively critiquing Rachmaninov - far, far from it - then I apologise.
@toronado455 Жыл бұрын
@@BsktImp Not at all. It didn't seem to me you personally were being judgemental about this performance. Rather, it seemed to me you were merely pointing out the fact that composers are not always regarded as the best performers of their own work. My comment was more a defensive response to anyone who might be critical of Rachmaninov's interpretation. And I was agreeing that a student performing in a similar manner might be subject to criticism, perhaps unjustly. So, no apology needed! 😊 🎹🎼🎵🎶
@tooleyheadbang4239 Жыл бұрын
@@toronado455 Rachmaninov's "interpretation" wouldn't be an "interpretation". It would be the original. That said, other people might "interpret" it, with more or less acclaim. Just because you wrote it, doesn't necessarily mean that your performance is automatically the best. Look at Springsteen, for instance. Or Tom Waits...
@TB-us7el6 ай бұрын
@@tooleyheadbang4239 it's still an interpretation, because he has to take the written music and make it into sounds and, presumably, it would be at least marginally different every time.
@giuseppecardarelli36665 ай бұрын
Bellissimo!
@owwtdooradvenchurz45097 ай бұрын
Now this is a roll piano!!
@claudiog.nogueiras23235 ай бұрын
better than DVD!
@geiiger6 ай бұрын
My favourite dayum. This appeared also in TV series Lost for those trivia buffs :p - Items to buy when I win the lottery....
@golfer59905 ай бұрын
This is cool. Rach is one of my favourite composers.
@monicabrondo4149 Жыл бұрын
Que hermoso legado!!!!....Es muy emocionante!!!!....❤
@GilbertoAlbino6 ай бұрын
This is real mechanical engineering with no computer AI to blame for!
@miguelleiton36459 ай бұрын
Ese Rollo es una joya......!!!!!!
@SonatasysInc Жыл бұрын
Amazing time machine
@thomasturrin8984 Жыл бұрын
Very nice - Knabe Ampico "A" grand - reproducing piano. ... Your piano sounds great and looks great. The Ampico reproducing system expresses very nicely. Knabe pianos of that time period (1920's) were very much top of the line.
@PiotrBarcz Жыл бұрын
Knabes, Chickerings, and Mason & Hamlins are the best known producers of Ampico grand pianos.
@philbarone46036 ай бұрын
Awesome! Woo hoo!
@RockyStonester17 ай бұрын
the sound of ghosts
@LevTVision Жыл бұрын
It sounds lively and very suitable, but the thought does not leave me, how would the jury of a modern competition evaluate this game if an unknown student was sitting at the piano? (I don't speak English, sorry)
@MegaLajeunesse7 ай бұрын
Travail de restauration magnifique
@kenji1968x Жыл бұрын
Big like ❤🎹🎵😊💕
@patrickshanahan75056 ай бұрын
I studied this piece using a manuscript notated by the composer. My piano teacher was a colleague of Rach, a student of Leschitizky. He told me the story that Rach said was the inspiration for the piece, which I visualize when I play it.
@captaindestruction93326 ай бұрын
Used to have a upright piano that would also play music from the scrolls, you loaded it up top above the keys(had a closeable cabinet areas). Was a fun item to show off to friends or family. Bit weird to have live acoustic Piano music playing in a house full of people who had no idea how to play even the most basic Piano music.
@IvanRevi Жыл бұрын
this was wonderful, I only wish we could see the keys better as they go
@tooleyheadbang4239 Жыл бұрын
It's an American thing. British player actions don't move the keys, but you can feel them if you rest your fingers gently on the keyboard.
@DanaClarkDana Жыл бұрын
wow - early MIDI
@nikitaw19827 ай бұрын
i want one.
@pianoplayingfishkeeper2094 Жыл бұрын
This is so cool! But it's kind of creepy at the same time and ghostly too
@tooleyheadbang4239 Жыл бұрын
Rachmaninoff can sound a bit 'creepy', along with other Russian composers. It's probably a cultural thing.
@RPRsChannel5 ай бұрын
*_I've always wanted one of those. Not sure if I should bother to look up what the price would be._*
@underzog6 ай бұрын
I think Rachmaninoff had a gas with these player pianos. I read where he was happily pumping out one of his songs on a player piano. The Ampico are real high quality and expensive to maintain. That is why they fell out of favor during the great depression.
@ioannamarkopoulou-3364 Жыл бұрын
ΑΠΙΣΤΕΥΤΟ……..
@vinimagus7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the video. I'm happy to see how happy you are. What is the name of the song, please? Kind regards, V
@yorusaka35546 ай бұрын
This is Rachmaninoff’s prelude in C-Sharp minor, Opus 3 no 2
@zaolodyckm22966 ай бұрын
Thats amazing. How does this technology works?
@DrQuizzler Жыл бұрын
Well hey!! I've always said, nobody plays Rachmaninoff like Rachmaninoff!! This kind of felt like watching a scene from the Disney movie "Fantasia". How does the young lady operating the player piano fit into all this? Does she also play?
@alainspiteri502 Жыл бұрын
Rachmaninov plays with many rubatos , it's necessary for all melodies ( said Samson François )
@delawarepilot7 ай бұрын
Is there velocity in the notes? seems like they are played with the same force. Still amazing to hear Rachmaninov play that. Very cool.
@yasuoyone62465 ай бұрын
There is
@PiotrBarcz Жыл бұрын
I'm curious, is this your piano? Because if it is, I don't think you know just how lucky you are to own one of these, they're rare and hard to get as heck! I've been after a grand reproducing piano for years, these are the pinnacle of mechanical music. I've heard that Gershwin, Fats Waller and a few other pianists learned how to play some of the pieces they made famous from using the dropping keys as a guide!
@LittleSailboat Жыл бұрын
The piano has been in the family for 50 years!
@PiotrBarcz Жыл бұрын
@@LittleSailboat That is so cool!
@IvarsBezdechi Жыл бұрын
That piano needs a tune.....bad! Thank you for posting this video....
@orangejraffe Жыл бұрын
Your face needs a tune…bad
@RCanning78 Жыл бұрын
What did that cost to restore? Can see it's rebuilt beautifully. Needs a tune though.
@JoeLinux2000 Жыл бұрын
Super. Maybe some people can say why the piano sounds old other than it is old. What could be changed to make it sound like a new piano?
@PiotrBarcz Жыл бұрын
It sounds like a new piano to me
@toronado455 Жыл бұрын
Tune it! The piano is very out of tune. It probably is difficult to keep the old piano in tune, so it's understandable.
@darknightfawkes1028 Жыл бұрын
@@toronado455 may have to replace the pins on older pianos, but that should be the only reason they go out of tune faster because of slipping in the peg board.
@PiotrBarcz Жыл бұрын
@@toronado455 it's not that out of tune, the noise reduction is what you're hearing
@michaeltutty15406 ай бұрын
It is definitely in need of both tuning and voicing. Some of the hammers are harder than others, and all are a bit too hard for a piano of that vintage. I own a 1903 Gerard Heinzman and great care was taken to make new hammers the same hardness as the originals.
@kelvinbrown8136 Жыл бұрын
100 year old midi on that paper
@CarrosEmMovimento6 ай бұрын
nah the piano plays better than me, oh ofc he is a piano :|
@marccollins19668 ай бұрын
This piece is commonly referred to as The Bells of Moscow…..
@audi4444player6 ай бұрын
it makes me wonder if there are any impossible to play rolls, much like midis that people create today.
@alexrostovsky Жыл бұрын
This is amazing! Thank you for sharing. Does 'played by the composer' mean that Rachmaninov actually recorded this prelude in the same tempo and intonation as we hear it on the video?
@LittleSailboat Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@PiotrBarcz Жыл бұрын
Yup, this is a perfect reproduction of the composer's own playing, carefully coded dynamic punches are responsible for the accurate reproduction
@konczel24656 ай бұрын
Man who was creating a script for it actually never played the piano
@i20010 Жыл бұрын
What sorcery is this?
@cannedmusic Жыл бұрын
true digital/analog tape deck...(or does this count as a punch card?)
@cvmslvt420 Жыл бұрын
Ye olde Synthesia
@dagreenslime98956 ай бұрын
How much does that player worth, prob a lot
@ednaldosilva44135 ай бұрын
😅😅😅😅 . .😅😅... M 2:12
@gtwfan526 ай бұрын
That's not a player piano. It's a reproducing piano, a totally different creature. It uses perforated paper rolls like a player piano, but they're not interchangeable with player piano rolls. Reproducing piano rolls don't just record the tone and length of the notes, they also record the volume each note is played at and the pianist's use of the pedals. To this day, they're considered the most accurate way to record piano performances, as electronic recording techniques can't accurately cover the piano's wide dynamic range.
@user-fe2zx7zp8x6 ай бұрын
Stimme bitte einer das Klavier………
@sharky_spike5 ай бұрын
its too bad that rachmaninov grew to detest this piece from his very young period meant to imitate the church bells...he was constantly asked to play it as an encore
@flylooper7 ай бұрын
That old Knabe needed a tune up badly. If that is really Rachmaninoff playing I have to say that its just terrible! I know he hated that piece (Mostly because it was always requested when he was on tour.) and it sounds like he's in a horse race to get to the end. Hard to believe it's really the master. I played this piece in my first recital, maybe 70 years ago.😀