Should I Train Boxing or Muay Thai | Kickboxing and Muay Thai and Boxing

[@Krufessor_Rad]

Which style of fighting are you interested in and why? Do you currently train in either of these forms of fighting? How’s your training going?

[@kayjay8077]

I like muay thai but muay thai should really have more focus on boxing

[@Krufessor_Rad]

@@kayjay8077 I agree. I actually touch on that a bit in the video. Thank you for the comment.

[@relaxandsleep6784]

I trained muay thai first. Then I fell in love with boxing. Then I decided to combine the two. Muay thai and boxing both have pros and cons as a single style of fighting. But when combined, it's just pure deadly. I have yet to use the combination method in an actual fight but the heavy bag definitely hates seeing me at the gym lol. When you combine the footwork, body movements, head movements, opening angles, counters, and deadly accuracy of boxing, with the on your toes, light on your feet, quick reaction, kicks, knees, and elbows of muay thai it's hard to go wrong.

[@alextop1850]

black mma fighter UK 🇬🇧 he was one that broke the guys skull

[@alextop1850]

interesting vid. from what you say I feel learning boxing first would give you foundation then muy thai and great take down defence and some of the most effective bjj moves with a bit of wrestling and maybe hubud lubud for knife 🔪 defence and sprinting 🏃‍♂️ your be a ninja

[@gunterdapenguin5896]

fun fact, Buakaw, one of the most infamous muay Thai fighters ever, after losing/getting cheated of his championship he started training much more boxing and incorporated it into his fights, it was a game changer, he started destroying fighters because he knew muay Thai and was a better boxer so in the opportune moments he would hook and punch much harder and faster than the other fighters while at the same time deliver devastating kicks, knees and elbows. Imo, muay Thai is better, but if you're already a good muay Thai fighter a little boxing will definitely help

[@davidevans7477]

Boxing just helps sure up the 2 limbs they don't work as much. They train the other 6 very well though.

[@เทพจ้าวยกล้อปล่อยมือ]

คนตะวันตกไม่ค่อยใช้เท้าเตะ กระดูกก็ไม่ปรับสภาพ ทำให้เตะไม่หนัก คุณต้องเตะให้มาก เริ่มจากเตะเบาๆ เพิ่มนำ้หนักไปเรื่อยๆ จนกว่าคุณจะรู้ว่าขาของคุณทนได้เเค่ไหน ถ้าทนได้ก็เพิ่มน้ำหนักขึ้นไปเรื่อยๆ

[@kendalgee5808]

No he didn't.

[@ynghuch]

​@@เทพจ้าวยกล้อปล่อยมือFootball is our national sport in Britain. Believe me, we spend a lot of time kicking.

[@andrewsocial9309]

What can you take from boxing though? I've thought about this a lot. I train muay thai in Thailand and there's not much respect for slips and twisting hooks. Partly because blocking and walking through everything scores better, and partly because elbows and knees to the face make a lot of Boxing technique dumb. It's impossible to deny the beauty and skill of a boxer's hands, but boxers do not fare well in free fights, almost ever. I personally would like to incorporate the head movement and hooks in an effective way but I'm not there yet.

[@P1015532oni]

If your goal is to just be “Billy Badass”, then yes, train MMA. Most complete. I did MMA for a few years for that very reason. Now I strictly box because I just wanna be an athlete/competitor and want to focus on one sport with the least amount of training “variables” that will also get me in the ring most often. From where I am, that sport is boxing. Also I think boxing is a beautiful art. I can always call on my MMA skills if needed to defend myself in a “real” altercation, but I got to be honest: I haven’t been in a bar fight/ street fight since I got out of the Army many years ago. Pick the sport you love. Stop worrying about these proverbial scenarios of streetfights in your head that will almost never happen if you have common sense to begin with. The friends I have with the most amount of street fights are also the dumbest dudes who find themselves in situations that can 100% be truly avoided.

[@stayingfitandfocused]

This is a really good answer. I like muay thai honestly and I did it once and even taekwondo and hapkido but man do I loveeeee the way boxing looks especially when the style is put against other styles in games or movies. The slips and dodges of boxing are like a painting.

[@Jmac1477]

Well put, honest answer. If you like grappling, focus on that but learn some basic stand up like boxing, muay thai, etc. so that you can protect yourself If you have to fight. And vice versa, if you prefer striking, whether it be boxing, muay thai, etc. and again, if you want to be able to protect yourself on the ground train some wrestling, BJJ, etc. for a while or even just basic survival with a friend who trains or a few private sessions. Or yeah, just do MMA. Everyone will be better at and/or prefer one thing over the other.

[@animadverte]

first comment I read that insists on the fact that street fight are mostly imaginary scenarios. agreed. unless you look for it street fight barely exist. it may depend on what area of the world you live in, but where I have been used to live they either do not exist at all (Asia) or they are criminal and armed aggressions against which martial arts are irrelevant.

[@tuananhphan6120]

If you want to defend yourself in some unexpected cases, train boxing as it will helps you to dodge serious damage. Believe me if you're not a pro, you won't prepare well enough to exert a powerful kick in those situations. If it's for having fun, burning calories, both are great. Stamina is a real deal in boxing if you stick with Ali or Tyson styles, your heart will be very healthy. But with muay thai, the best thing for me is the feeling of being not afraid. Your body will be tough, so as your mind.

[@JD-oe5uc]

Well a powerful low kick is pretty effective and quick to land. Jab to create distance, followed by a hard low-kick is my favorite combo.

[@iROChakri]

If you are a beta man, go with Boxing. If you're an alpha man that are willing to push to the limit of yourself, go for Muay thai.

[@tangerinesarebetterthanora7060]

@@iROChakri ironic you say that with a pfp like that.

[@iROChakri]

@@tangerinesarebetterthanora7060 Cus apples are better than oranges? Pretty much Boxing is better than TKD and Muay thai is better than Boxing :3

[@Ethan-xf4or]

@@iROChakri You sound like a person whose done a few classes of muy thai and thinks you’re tough.

[@Team_Detroit]

I feel like it’s way easier if you want to do both to have Muay Thai as your main and boxing as secondary. Boxing can create bad habits for Muay Thai like bobbing and weaving to avoid a hook you can get caught with a knee or kick from a Muay Thai fighter. Definitely easier to do Muay Thai and incorporate boxing into it than it would be vise versa.

[@Krufessor_Rad]

I agree. Good points for sure.

[@ronaldoooi]

Its better to start first with muay thai?

[@sportmuaythaiv1045]

Concur.

[@sportmuaythaiv1045]

Concur

[@Mewwom]

@@ronaldoooiyeah in my opinion, I prefer learning boxing as well because muay thai has some good punching but not as amazing as boxing.

[@dmnpizarro]

Boxing in my opinion should be a common foundation. It is probably the most important art form. Then transition to muay thai BJJ judo etc.

[@tomassmith1519]

I started with kickboxing. Gonna go to Muay Thai now. Do I miss out if I don't do boxing first?

[@SnowAngelfish]

Muay Thai in my opinion should be first and foremost because its the most complete and requires more training and skills. Then boxing to specialize on the hand work more and BJJ for the ground work. In that order.

[@CIA_Alien]

@@tomassmith1519 Muay is boxing... So, no, you're not missing out... Muay Thai includes western boxing.

[@CIA_Alien]

@@SnowAngelfish you're ignorant... Muay is boxing and already incorporates western boxing, so you do not train in Muay without training in boxing. If you are going to give advice, learn more about martial arts. You brought up BJJ why? It's not even a superior grappling art and it focus is sport grappling. BJJ derived from Judo and is not even true Jujitsu (Jujutsu) that originated in Japan. They have to spell it differently "Jiujitsu" because it's not the same. In short, BJJ is for the b1tches that get their asses kicked in tournaments that have open grappling without 1000 rules that do not work in a BJJ artist favor. Go to a BJJ tournament and tell me 1 that does not have tons of rules against using several different submissions. They get their asses kicked by true grapplers (Like JJJ, Sambo to list a couple) at those tournaments. I love facing the BJJ guys, I always use something that they hate like picking them up off of the mat by their face around the nose and eye socket area. Makes them tap pretty fast because they are babies that do not like real submission. And again, so it sinks in, Muay is boxing. Western boxing is included in Muay Thai.

[@Noirthodox]

All the moves that boxers need to learn rely on the principle that their leg are absolutely safe, which they need to unlearn later if they have the resolve to transition to whete kicks are involved. This is a harmful mindset to learn as the first martial art

[@Cinderblock1985]

I started in boxing. But after not having a coach I started doing Muay Thai but not traditional more like a mixture of Dutch style. We do a lot of boxing incorporated along with elbows, knees, and kicks. My advice is to learn Dutch kickboxing over traditional Muay Thai.

[@sportmuaythaiv1045]

I must admit that modern sport muaythai has progressed so much, a major part of it is because of western boxing. Boxing is so bio-mechanically developed. Muaythai adopted western punching almost 100%. Muaythai also adopted western method of training with pad work and heavy bag.

[@MuaythaikickboxingMMA1]

You want to go punch and kick banana trees instead? Boxing only helped make muay thai easier and more watered down enough for many people to practice.

[@Jmac1477]

Yep, I'm pretty sure it was initially the influence of the Dutch fighters like Ramon Dekkers that had strong hands via Western Boxing and that eventually made it its way into Muay Thai overall. I love and respect both Muay Thai and Western Boxing. The practitioner also has a huge effect on "which one is better: and as others have said, just focus on what you like better or what suits your needs.

[@mhaluuun93]

I personally think Boxing is the best striking art, but I have tremendous amounts of respect for Muay Thai. That shit is dope.

[@KingCrimsonRequiem336]

@@Джабраиловичwait so if no kicking they can use their knees or is it like no leg attacks

[@KingCrimsonRequiem336]

@@Джабраилович that makes sense lol, feel like i asked a real stupid question

[@KingCrimsonRequiem336]

@@Джабраилович i’m starting on muay thai, brand new beginner

[@akizaizayoi4763]

For me, it is good to make Muay Thai/Kickboxing as your base. But if possible, learn boxing eventually since in boxing, you will learn to be faster on your feet and to have better footwork. Most kickboxing fights that I have watched seem to lack evasive skills. It's like most of the time, it all comes down to on who is the toughest. I still believe in the hit and not get hit principle. Also, you are right. We should always remain students because we should keep on evolving and learning. Heck, I would even gladly incorporate Kung Fu techniques in my arsenal if I can (I was able to do standing rear naked chokes on most of my sparring partners thanks to me improvising my Wing Chun techniques and combining it with better footwork).

[@Krufessor_Rad]

I agree with you 💯

[@poriccrompton]

Difficult to move as much as in boxing in kickboxing or Muay Thai due to the lower body strikes you may just move into a head kick or knee strike as is common when boxers try MMA

[@LewisCho]

@@poriccrompton I think he may have been commenting on the overall motion of a boxer and wanting to translate that into a kickboxing art. Ducks, rolls, slips as one end with head movement, but also pivoting, cutting angles, stepping in and out, and shifting I think

[@colinb8332]

Thai boxers are explicitly supposed to be more square in their stance, and focus more on power shots in general. Naturally you’ll be a little less agile on your feet

[@Evilj82]

Kickboxing is still more movement based than Muay Thai, I think you’re talking about traditional Muay Thai where the scoring is different.

[@MrPookiexL3oi]

Doing both Muay Thai and boxing is important for stand up fighters. Thai fighters in Thailand do both some good ex. Sanchai, Buakaw, Rodtang, Sittichai etc..

[@LPrulezhard]

I do all 3 of them. Love the roughness of muay Thai but kickbox and boxing is also great

[@acethe8th]

Samart Payakaroon is a legendary Muay Thai fighter who crossed over to boxing and did very well.

[@boshirahmed]

Hard to teach though, as his the only one who teaches to move like that, he also was very flexible. there are different styles, you don't have to use one style.

[@ygbodybuilder3023]

I just got my daughter in Muay Thai and she is 9 I want her to be good with the hands should I take her out of Muay thai and put her in boxing

[@Krufessor_Rad]

I think Muay Thai is much more valuable all around. If she has the right coach she will learn some good boxing in the process. Or she can add boxing later after getting a strong foundation with Muay Thai. Good job getting your daughter into martial arts, sir. The benefits are many.

[@jedsteelwell2354]

Thai is much more rounded and deadly. What would really be best is keep her doing Muay Thai and sharpen her hands with boxing

[@iROChakri]

Nah, Muay thai is a superior version of Boxing.

[@CyclingMartialartswithMusic]

Enroll her to both if you have the cash.

[@Todo_fighting]

One day of boxing a week until she get good hands.

[@eddieguerrero2005]

Klitchiko brothers were kickboxers who switched to boxing. Top thai fighters as Somrak Kamsing was proficient in boxing and thai. He had won gold medal in boxing olympics. Samart Payakaroon was a muay thai and boxing world champion.

[@tonypaella]

Alexander povetkin too, Marco Huck too. Lomachenko is quite adept at Muay Thai and Caleb plant does some kick boxing. It's really interesting if you think about it.

[@nathanwilliams1316]

Samaart Payakaroon first muay thai guy that comes to mind. Other than being a Muay Thai world champion was also WBC boxing champion. Other names that come to mind Wayne Parr, Paul Briggs, Mike Bernado. All made very successful transitions to boxing just to name a few.

[@agookchild]

I plan on beginning boxing until my hands&footwork are decent and slowly incorporate muaythai, wrestling and Bjj classes into my routine. I have full intention of training mma one day

[@TheMusicLauncher]

Same :) i train boxing since february and in 1-3 years I'll either continue with bjj or with muay thai

[@damiangarcia2395]

@@TheMusicLauncherFunny we all have the same plan. Just finished training boxing for two year and I am now starting Muay Thai.

[@mysteryskate8996]

Great video. I do kyokushin and do some boxing and its a game changer mixing them both an upgrade to your arsenal. I originally wanted to learn muay thai but unfortunately some of the gyms i visited were watered down, i was able to find 3 legit gyms but my work schedule was changed and so i couldnt go to train at any of those gyms. I hope to one day train muay thai and add it to my arsenal.

[@arandomgodbridger3169]

Muay Thai has more tools then boxing

[@kickboxing3728]

The most famous example of a Thai fighter crossing into boxing was Samart - he ended up fusing boxing with Muay Thai to dominate the Muay Thai scene. There are a lot of other Thai fighters too (e.g. Somchai who was a lumpinee champ and also on the Thai Olympic boxing team)

[@HumanAction1]

Boxing for initial distance management. Muay Thai to close the distance and use leg kicks, knees and elbows sweeps and dumps. bjj/submission wrestling after dumping opponent on ground.

[@Krufessor_Rad]

good arsenal of skills

[@jonathanjohnson5216]

Rambo💡

[@Krufessor_Rad]

@@jonathanjohnson5216 oh man, I totally forgot that Rocky was fighting Muay Thai (sort of) in Rambo 3. That is a great connection.

[@cutthroatcorn2815]

Yea boxing MT and wrestling would make u not only very athletic but very versatile as well I’ve done those n I’m a killer I can take it to the ground n finish a person of stand up n walk them down all night , depending on how I feel but very good combo n if u can add Gracie jiu jitsu

[@locke8412]

@HumanAction1 congratulations you just discovered MMA

[@livestrong296]

The only useful video on KZbin which adequately answers the question boxing or kickboxing

[@Krufessor_Rad]

thank you for the positive feedback.

[@KungFoo1]

I came into this video, thinking about focusing on boxing or kickboxing. Absolutely fantastic breakdown of everything to consider. I am much clearer and will definitely be keeping both. I noticed the lack of footwork in Muay Thai matches, its quite shocking to see that the fighters just stay in strike range without moving. A balanced approach and one right for you as an individual makes total sense.

[@closeredge5198]

You really need to dive deeper into muay thai than just some random recent matches...footwork is essential and some of the most beautiful fighting EVER is in the golden era...Saenchai? Lerdsila? Somrak?...watch them and possibly expand your perspective

[@KungFoo1]

@@closeredge5198 you’re right!

[@closeredge5198]

@@KungFoo1 I should add to that Oley ( incredible evasion) , Chatchai ( technical beauty), and Namkuaban ( great anticipation and timing). Muay thai scholar channel is a treasure chest highlighting these masters

[@jasonlewing3239]

Troy Dorsey was a world champion kick boxer who transitioned into boxing and world title in boxing.

[@joaoii1082]

Boxing still valuable. After all we do have better punches, can create better angles and have better footwork. But Muay Thai way more versatile. I don't think the head movement would change much honestly, but footwork on the other hand, we'd have to learn to close in on muay Thai fighters much faster than we are used to.

[@sebastianrooks6778]

Excellent video. Thank you for sharing.

[@natekelly770]

There's actually quite a few muay thai fighters that went into boxing and did quite well. A few such as Sagat and Samart won world championships

[@jgoincomedy5837]

😂😂

[@AmorFatiistaken]

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[@closeredge5198]

Somrak won a gold medal in boxing at the Olympics

[@skullhead4003]

I like Boxing , K1 style Kickboxing , Muay Thai , Muay Boran , Sanda , Shuai Jiao , Savate , Hapkido , Karate , Japanese Jujutsu , Judo , Brazilian Jiu - Jitsu , Freestyle Wrestling , Greco - Roman Wrestling , Glima , Pankration , Combat Sambo and MMA..i love them all and practiced few of them , for striking Boxing , K1 , Muay Thai , Sanda and Karate

[@australienski6687]

One thing nobody mentions is pre existing injuries. Boxing is the only combat sport that doesnt aggravate my AC joint or slipped discs. Muay Thai is hard on the body, I'm always limping when i train Muay Thai. And grappling is a strict no unless I want to end up in a wheel chair. But I do agree pretty much 100 percent with all your arguments for muay thai over boxing.

[@azzcoulton123]

Brilliant in depth analysis

[@Krufessor_Rad]

Thank you very much for you feedback.

[@WillPea]

I’d say some of the key advantages of Muay Thai over Boxing would be: • TEEP • CLINCH • ELBOWS • KNEES • SWEEPS • TOUGHNESS …advantage of Boxing over Muay Thai would be: • ENDURANCE • HAND SPEED • HAND ARSENAL • AGILITY

[@kenaultman7499]

You should do muay thai. Trust me. It's an entirely different crowd. In my opinion, that's a big reason it's such a good martial art.

[@christhianborrero3623]

I feel the 3 of them are great to do as self defense or either as MMA fight as well.

[@DiogoInacio-x2t]

I want to thank you really much for making this video, I was doubting in which martial art I should do, I ended up thinking that I should practice or boxing or muay Thai and this video cleared my mind I clearly saw the perspective of each combat sport and I will try muay thai by my big height and because it uses more weapons as you said, I wanted to thank you really much, take care

[@Krufessor_Rad]

Thank you so much for watching and for the feedback. I'm so happy the video was helpful. thank you again.

[@barnabaeburrows3748]

I find the kicks kill boxers thing to be very true. I myself am a boxer and before I’d had any fights, I tried out Thai boxing for a bit but found this kicks very difficult to get past in sparring. Now I’m more experienced with boxing and I’m about to have my 5th fight, I’d like to take my experience to Thai boxing again after and see if I get on with it better then.

[@BrotherAnderson88]

I like your video and the way you explained the different fighting styles. I also agree with the philosophy of using what works and adding a few tweaks and making changes where necessary so adding some good boxing techniques to your muay thai is great if it helps make you a better and more complete fighter...go for it.👍🏽

[@JD-oe5uc]

After more than 10 years I still can’t decide 😉 Like the both. I started with judo as a child and later on Dutch kickboxing. One a week we also had training from a boxer to improve our hands and I like it so much I continued with boxing (also due to some leg injury). I think is also depends on the gym/teacher. I still like the footwork, head movement, endurance and tactical aspects of boxing. But I also really like low kicks, throws/sweeps, teeps, knees and elbows. So hard decision between boxing and MT. MT fight at least 5 rounds and don’t have that aggressive/explosive aspect that Dutch kickboxing often has and I don’t like as lanky, endurance fighter. One thing I learned is that kickboxers suck at boxing 😉

[@twentyonetortas5921]

I know that I want to learn Muay Thai and boxing before other martial arts and ground fighting so which of the two should I give a try: Muay Thai or boxing? Or both at the same time? Is it possible as an absolute beginner or would that be a bit much and I should pick one over the other first? And if kickboxing was there, which of three should be leaned in what order for absolute beginners? I know that you like both and already view that kickboxers suck at boxing so which one(s) should be learned first and last for an absolute beginner that wants to be powerful with their bare hands and also compete as a fighter someday?

[@cutthroatcorn2815]

Dutch kickboxing if available or muay Thai n then incorporate boxing if u can , there’s different styles of kickboxing like American which is more like karate base n Dutch which is heavy on boxing n thAi kicks so I would search for a Dutch kickboxing gym or thAi gym first if u find a Dutch gym u get the best of both worlds but u can’t go wrong with muAy thAi n boxing either

[@amarafie10]

I started out as a boxer but transitioned into muay thai. Took me a while but Im just getting good at it.

[@deltabravo1969]

Excellent explanation! Thank you.

[@Krufessor_Rad]

Thank you very much.

[@InstituteOfLos]

My cousin trained and fought in boxing and Muay Thai. 🤙🏼

[@ashwinraggs4226]

The "Perfect" video 👊

[@Krufessor_Rad]

🙏🏽

[@cruz6792]

I did muay thai for 4 months and feel well rounded

[@Krufessor_Rad]

that's awesome!

[@bille7585]

Go train more. Give it another few years and youll feel even more sufficient

[@cruz6792]

@@bille7585 I know I still have a lot to learn still but one day I'll go back hopefully soon

[@jerrymartin2275]

Samart Payakaroon famous Thai fighter that also fought in boxing, he was simultaneously a boxing and muay thai champion, in fact many muay thai champions from thailand in the 70's and 80's were also boxing champions. Tenshin Nasukawa a famous japanese kickboxer and boxer most recently had a exhibition fight against mayweather. It didnt go well for Tenshin, he just had never boxd someone of Mayweathers caliber before. But theres plenty of crossover

[@chvhndrtntlr3482]

9:08 how using 2 hands in boxing considered using 20% of your potential? I mean if we list: 1. Head butt, 2. Left hand, 3. Left elbow 4. Right hand, 5. Right elbow 6. Left leg 7.left knee 8.right leg 9. Right knee It should be 2/9×100=22%

[@Sergio_Gonzalez50]

Honestly I do both cause my gym teaches boxing and Muay Thai

[@Krufessor_Rad]

nice! It's great when you can do that. No reason not to.

[@PLONG12345]

The Dutch Muay Thai a.k.a Dutch Kickboxing and Japanese Kickboxing is the mix of the two while the dutch focus on much more mexican boxing style the japanese focuses on speed and outboxing style. If K1 was never inttoduced Dutch Fighters would probably still use elbows same as the Thais and probably would be dominating Thailand. Also Samart and Coban were two of muay thai fighters who are succesful in boxing as well as Dutch fighter such as Tyrone Spong

[@Krufessor_Rad]

great information. Thank you so much for sharing.

[@cutthroatcorn2815]

When talking Dutch style can’t forget Ramon dekkers literally the mike Tyson of kickboxing

[@Ajhmee]

I saw many comments about Samart but not Somrak. Somrak Kamsing was one of Muay Thai legend who also got Olympic Gold medal for Boxing in 1996 (Atlanta). He was in the same weight class as Floyd Mayweather, Jr. (Bronze) But Floyd lost to Serafim Todorov then Todorov lost to Somrak in the the Final.

[@closeredge5198]

All facts...Somrak is a pure legend, and that Todorov/ Floyd fight was possibly the worst travesty I've ever seen in sports. We were robbed of 2 future GOATS facing off against each other

[@JustinGarfield1]

Beginner of Muay Thai. Was training at a mma gym in kickboxing. The training seems so different. The knees, hooks, stance etc is so different. I just tell myself to shut up and learn their style when I am in class. I only take one class a week. That is minimum but don't want injuries because I am going to massage therapy school. 🙏 🙏. Thank you for your video. Man you have best martial arts videos.

[@Krufessor_Rad]

I love that you're expanding your horizons. Keep it up. Pocket as many skills as you can and then you can shape them into something you feel works best for you. good luck on your schooling as well. Thank you so much for the comment.

[@vinishvasam9137]

Fantastic video. Was in a dilemma whether to take boxing or muay thai. I have full contact karate experience for 10years. Gonna take muay thai and incorporate boxing skills which can get along with muay thai. Thank you sir! Oss

[@Krufessor_Rad]

Thank you for the feedback and think that is a good idea. 😊🙏🏽

[@metalface_villain]

my personal opinion is that a combo of boxing + muay thai + wrestling + bjj > muay thai + bjj > muay thai or bjj > boxing and i believe this ranking works as far as fighting/self defense goes and how they stack up against each other but even if boxing is last in this ranking it shouldn't be underestimated, someone with little boxing experience can beat someone with little mt experience simply because there are fewer things to learn and a boxer always has a chance because of their speed and power. one thing that i don't like about boxing in a self defense situation is that you can easily hurt yourself whereas a mt guy can clinch and knee, low kick, teep and use elbows who are relatively safe but in a life or death situation maybe the trade off of a broken hand is a good deal if u get to live. in the end all of these are extremely effective arts and you should learn whatever you prefer, all will make you a badass and way safer than doing other arts.

[@hakunamatata3758]

But if you were to combine these two sports boxing and wrestling and turn them into a martial art. would it be effective? Dodge punches and punching to get closer and looking for opening to wrestle him down and make a competition of this two it would be entertainment on another level. Greco roman style or freestyle.

[@ncalvert2442]

On crossing over between boxing and kickboxing I want to say Israel Adesanya crossed over into boxing for a short time in his kickboxing career.

[@Krufessor_Rad]

I didn't know that. That's pretty cool That guy has kind of done it all.

[@ncalvert2442]

@@Krufessor_Rad Oh yeah, already a living legend in any ring and doesn't seem to be slowing down.

[@scrawlin18]

Khaosai galaxy is probably the most famous Thai boxer. He switched from Muay Thai and started western boxing and became a champion.

[@Krufessor_Rad]

thank you for that info. I didn't know that. I will definitely look him up.

[@panamaharp]

@@Krufessor_Rad Definitely check out Samarat Payakaroon kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIHCg5qvocafhKM

[@juanjoserobreslluch5845]

I train boxing,4 years ago stay training in phuket muay thai and i like muay thai too💪💪

[@Krufessor_Rad]

That’s so awesome, brother! Keep doing your thing!

[@Blacksheep-kq6mm]

I had a background in Tae Kwondo because when i was growing up, it was one of the martial arts around. Been training muy thai, and I love it. I want to focus on muy thai but i definitely want to get some time in boxing for the footwork and angle changes that are somewhat missing in traditional muy thai. I 100% agree that having a broad knowledge of multiple styles of fighting makes you more versatile, allowing you to see and create more striking opportunities in a fight. That said, becoming proficient in any single form of combat, striking, grappling, etc puts you ahead of 99% of people out there. Train hard, train often.

[@kiwiunknown6890]

Did Muay Thai few years ago and just didn't like the way the way the gym and a big injury were going and gained weight now and been thinking about boxing so I'll go down to the boxing gym when they open up for the year

[@COACH_ANTHONY_MMA]

FROM ONE KRU TO ANOTHER WELL SAID. I HAVE BEEN PREACHING THIS FOR YEARS. NOONE IS BETTER THEN OTHER LEARN ALL ASPECTS OF STRIKING AND USE IT FOR WHAT YOU NEED.

[@Krufessor_Rad]

Yes sir! Thank you for the comment 🙏🏽

[@MrLEE-pf6fv]

Big fan of boxing mma an jitsu...but what if the boxer trained leg checks?.?.?. I've seen fights we're the boxer gets his legs recked by the Thai fighter. Let's say the boxer keeps training what he does but adds leg check training to see if he/ she can keep up.....kinda like in the beginning of ufc we're bjj dominated untill you got your wrestlers who started training bjj defense an started ground n pound... No disrespect here...again I'm a fan of all styles....I'm just curious how that could go...fights could of lasted longer maybe????

[@Krufessor_Rad]

unfortunately, it wouldn't be enough against a seasoned kicker. There are too many nuances and variables that a boxer would need to know how to effectively defend against several different kicks. Also, your question is specific to checking kicks which is a small percentage of the defense against kicks. there are body kicks and head kicks and then combos that hide the kicks. Lastly the boxing stance is problematic for checking or defending kicks. A boxer would need to learn how to shift their weight to defend and counter and that would change the way they punch. The only way I can see would be to learn and train muay thai or kickboxing and get the style down to a degree then you can add your boxing back in and find a way to blend them. I hope all that makes sense. Thank you very much for comment and question.

[@paulorawdogcosta3630]

Sorry but the combo at 20:02 was absolutely BEAUTIFUL

[@ABCDEF-uz9fd]

You’re beautiful…😌

[@winterpurple4587]

Boxing is a more practical skillset for street use. Nobody launches a kick in a bar fight. You need space for kicks. And a lot of street fights occur in tight spots. In a bar, at a crowded stadium, etc.

[@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh]

Knee or Elbows are perfect for Street Fights a Muay Thai Have many Weapons, A Muay Thai Clinch it's nasty and can really be useful in a street fight.

[@southpawcharlie5874]

Adding Savate low stomp kicks will make the kicking aspects more effective since they can be done from a clinch.

[@pierrefitch]

How many days a week you recommend training at 42 ? 4 to 5 days a week is that good or 3 ?

[@Krufessor_Rad]

I’m 45 and I train 6 days a week, but I do a lot between BJJ, Muay Thai, and strength and conditioning and I own a gym so I’m always there. I’d a say a minimum of 4 days a week is good but listen to your body if you need to pull back from time to time. I always looked at it like this. 3 or less and that’s just maintenance. 4 or more times a week to truly grow and see significant results. I hope that helps. Thank you for the comment 🙏🏽

[@pierrefitch]

wow thank you so much man will aim for 4 times a week and do some calisthenics 2 times a week @@Krufessor_Rad

[@neocloudmarts9613]

Nieky Holsken moves back and forth between Muay Thai, K1 kickboxing and boxing

[@elindioedwards7041]

When you say real fight are you referring to a street fight? If so then I would say boxing is the more fundamental skill required. Tight pants, spacing, footing considerations negate kicks. The hands are much more readily available. With all that said Muay Thai does have more overall weapons and the knees and elbows are very strong tools for self defense.

[@Krufessor_Rad]

That's a good assessment. From Muay Thai I'd say the clinch would be of great benefit in a real fight. if you understand clinching and how to fully control someone while also striking them and tipping them off balance and so on you could be extremely effective. But many martial arts are theoretical when it comes to real fights. All you can do is count on your fighting instincts above theirs. Which, if you train in combat sports or martial arts, you should have a bit of an advantage I'd think.

[@elindioedwards7041]

@@Krufessor_Rad clinching is absolutely a reality for real fights and Muay Thai in my experience does address that better than western boxing. There is no question that Muay Thai is the more complete discipline. From my standpoint though I would rather see a trainee get the boxing component down first. I switched from more of a Muay Thai background to straight boxing for about 2 years or so. During that time I felt my hands, head movement and footwork improved so dramatically. In addition I'm 62 years old now and kicks are much less a part of what I do. Appreciate your channel and perspective. Your advice on limiting head movement for kickboxing and the effectiveness of leg kicks vs straight boxing is right on the money. Good channel.

[@Krufessor_Rad]

@@elindioedwards7041 thank you very much sir 🙏🏽

[@MrColimon25]

I’ve noticed a lot of boxers doing muy Thai now my gym is a mix of both kick boxing and muy thai. People saying m it’s not effective hasn’t done it and hasn’t taken a kick.

[@yad2917]

@yad2917 0 seconds ago Ray Mercer was a champion boxer that fought kickboxing. Big Baby Miller is another. My fellow African, Frans Botha (South Africa) is boxer that switched to Kickboxing. Botha actually fought Mike TYson in a Boxing match. Also, few people know that Francis Ngannou was a boxer first. He switched to MMA, but I think he could have been a world champion Kickboxer if he wanted.... Great video.

[@MarcosAG90]

The way I see this is: Takin one narrow skill to its 100% VS taking 5 skills to 20% each.

[@Krufessor_Rad]

Well, that's not necessarily how I see it. I'm saying that one skill only uses 20% of the weapons available. I would rather use 100% of them, (this isn't even including the clinch fighting) and be very skilled at using them all by adopting practices that exist in the three striking styles I'm talking about. This way I'm skilled as close to 100% as possible as an overall striker. No one is, or will ever be skilled 100%.. I hope that makes sense. 🙂

[@Todo_fighting]

In mma you have guys that use 90% hands destroying complete strikers, of course they are aware of kicks and other elements.

[@andrew38617]

If you do Boxe, it easily transfers to the use of elbows. When you are a lightning with your arms, elbows just follow. Plus, the Footwork you learn by boxing and head movements are invaluable. You can use head movements when they are meant to dodge and at the same time immediately close the distance to do a takedown or pivoting to evade completely the central line.. All those things can be applied. You just need to adapt those techniques to the environment by using good intelligence. You need brain to fight, and a lot.. But the majority of people doesn't make good use of it.

[@mdyzward8553]

Yeah man I broke a boxer dudes orbital with a jump switch kick during trading I felt sooooo bad but boxers have some bad habits for combat as a whole

[@Krufessor_Rad]

yes, adjustments need to be made when kicks are added, but their habits are hard to change because they'd have to change their footwork and head movement significantly.

[@mechanicbeast6751]

Try with a judoka or bjj🤣

[@kangeraga]

This was great information and all but I gotta say you have an amazing haircut

[@Krufessor_Rad]

well thank you very much :-)

[@regisuarez3541]

For a mma fighter do you recommend for a fighter to do some amateur fights in boxing and muay thai/kickboxing as a form of training to better our striking game?

[@Krufessor_Rad]

Sure. That's a good way to go about it if those options are available to you. Some of my MMA fighters have competed in all things. BJJ tourneys, ammy boxing, ammy Muay Thai, and Kickboxing before doing MMA. Some just do ammy Muay Thai and BJJ tourneys and then do MMA. I think it's good to compete where you can as often as you can to get used to competing and learn all around about yourself and what you can do in there and how you can get better.

[@rages1896]

great video brother keep teaching youngers

[@livestrong296]

Krufessor - is kick boxing LESS tiring than boxing? I feel boxing is more tiring, because it involves arms and lot of footwork, so you are more tired v/s kick boxing, when your footwork is limited and you get to stand more upright which is less tiring.

[@Krufessor_Rad]

good questions. My students and I always talk about how we're more tired from boxing rounds than we are from kickboxing rounds, but I did a video where I wore a heart monitor and showed that kickboxing kept your heart rate higher for longer than just boxing. That aside, I can say I get tired faster when boxing only. This is from the footwork and constant body movement for offense and defense, and you use your whole body for every punch if you're doing it properly.

[@livestrong296]

@@Krufessor_Rad thanks for your reply. I feel that's why kick boxers have a slightly bulkier frame than a boxer, who is very lean. Maybe because the energy (calorie) expenditure is a bit lesser. Also kickboxing doesn't call for hours of jump rope, I guess.

[@Krufessor_Rad]

@@livestrong296 not necessarily. The training is similar and just as intense when it comes to the cardio aspect. Then it comes down to the routine of the fighter. Their direct training regiment, etc. Anyway, they're both intense and beneficial in their own ways. Thank you for the comments.

[@Noname47122]

Dillian Whyte, Florian Marku, The klitschko’s, Benny Mahoney all came from kickboxing/MT to boxing. Think MT fighter Nathan Bendon used to box at a decent standard too

[@bille7585]

The big difference besides sweeping opponent to the floor... are ELBOWS, KNEES & TEEEEP! that make Muay Thai more practical compared to Boxing

[@tnm1697]

Late to the party. I’ve been boxing since I was 13 but have a big interest in Muay Thai and was wondering if there is a by the book way to blend the styles or is it more by feel?

[@Krufessor_Rad]

there is no by the book way with any form of fighting or martial arts, so blending would be fully in the hands of the person learning both styles. I hope that makes sense.

[@tnm1697]

@@Krufessor_Rad absolutely. Looking at the basics you’ve showed in your videos, the knees and elbows would blend fantastic with my style. I appreciate the speedy comment on a older video though, earned the sub from me

[@ninjamaster7724]

Heaps of kickboxers and Muai Thai fighters have had pro boxing fights as well. John Wayne Parr is just 1 example.

[@avencebi]

I believe the Klitschko brothers were kickboxers also dillian white...I believe nicky holtzen fought in boxing as well

[@nonon0n0o]

There are Thai legends with Muay Thai back ground who is also great in boxing and kick boxing though, Buakaw and Sittichai is legendary in kick boxing, Kaosai/Samart/Somrak(who used to beat floyd mayweather in Olympic) but not much of the other way around, oh yeah IMP I think starting with Muay Thai is the best to way to go. I mean the conditioned body and mentality and you are better at defense too, plus most boxers wouldn't check the low kicks because of many reasons like they are not used to it and you don't really train your legs as much as Muay Thai or kick boxing.

[@msfkmsfk]

This was a great video.

[@Krufessor_Rad]

thank you very much.

[@Riosokkablackwolf]

For striking, I I learned Muay Thai first, but my trainer threw in boxing, so I would have good hands and head movement. 🥊🥊

[@AC-qh3kk]

im a beginner, i workout and have decent cardio. i want to learn self defence and eventually get a few pro fights in, which one should I learn first as my base as id probably be learning the other when I master the base

[@Krufessor_Rad]

I did Muay Thai and then boxing then kickboxing and my main training for striking is Muay Thai. It’s really in what you’re most interested in so you can find motivation and passion. From there you can build and stack your skills.

[@akonemanaba4183]

I like to start with boxing than train Muay Thai after

[@ayoung1]

There have been many Muay Thai fighters who have crossed over and won boxing titles. Many. I cannot spell the names correctly but Samart Payakaroon, Khosai Galaxy, Seansak Mangsurin, Chartchai Chinoi, Mungchai Kittikasem, Sor Rungvisai, and on and on. Most of them have been in week divisions and many benefit from fighting in Thailand, but some have been truly great in boxing. This kind of troubles me, since I am a boxing fan but the limits of the boxing rules make it more easy for someone to transfer to boxing from Muay Thai than the opposite, I think. Also, boxers only enter into MMA or mixed fights after they are way past their prime and needing a pay day.

[@JPAPA604]

Muay Thai and heavy punching style k-1 mixed with a lil bit of judo is the best

[@pnp8849]

MT has so much variation you'll never get bore. Add some karate side and speed kick to it for fun.

[@BogalaSawundiris]

There are dozens of Kickboxers and Muay Thai fighters that won MAJOR WORLD TITLES in Boxing !

[@MrNataphong]

Muay Thai to boxing and became champ was Samart Payakarun for WBA/WBC and Somrak Kamsing for Olympic gold(same year with Floyd with bronze) and Khaosai Galaxy and his twin for WBA😊

[@Aquitasz77]

Tyrone spong crossed over from kickboxing to boxing. But that’s due to him breaking his shin.

[@closeredge5198]

In the west, boxing is done by everyone, just like kicking in Thailand....learning muay thai, and adjusting to understand boxing is a good path, because its much easier to adjust thai stance and footwork to boxing than vice versa. I am a femur- technical fighter who has high level clinch, and i can frustrate opponents before even having to pull out my boxing skills

[@mikeo3151]

I have been thinking of boxing and muay Thai for a while. I joined a normal weight gym and just used the bag out of absalute rage. With adhd -memory wise which one is easier to sink into my brain please?? I dont want to go into grading or competitions.

[@Krufessor_Rad]

Whichever peaks your interest the most. Try a couple places. See what style and gym culture you prefer more. Considerations could be orice, coaching style, gym vibe, and travel time. Find what you feel will keep you enthusiastic about going to class. I hope that helps

[@b.benjamin5582]

As a sport, I prefer Boxing over Muay Thai, but I'd still give some effort to master at least one kick for my arsenal/repertoire so I can also rely on more than just punching when it'd come to fighting outside of the ring (street fights, bar fights etc.). Low-roundhouse kick seems to be very effective, useful and the simplest to master of all kicks.

[@r.s.334]

Thinking same way

[@OGFrontLine]

I trained in Boxing since 12, I tried Kickboxing at 16 but stopped training after a few months- but around 29 or 30 (Im 34 now) I picked Kickboxing back up with a focus on Muay Thai, however I do try to mix in some traditional MA like TKD, Kung Fu/Wing Chun, & Karate. I would say that while Im not in the best physical shape like I was in my 20s, Im by far the most dangerous fighter Ive ever been which is funny since at 18 Id fight regularly at the drop of a dime but now that Im getting older I do everything I can to avoid fights.. took awhile but it finally clicked in "fighting hurts" and not just that but fighting REALLY FUCKING HURTS

[@Sauci_4k]

Take vitamins bro and keep up on your calcium intake. As we get older, things don’t work the same but vitamins and extra calcium will help you stay ahead of the game .. or stay up to par I should say

[@TalesForWhales]

If worried about self defense just remember don't kick while wearing jeans. Men you will need jeggings now to defend yourself. Good luck.

[@daammexican]

I had to explain something similar to a friend I met in a boxing class. I started training in Muay Thai around 12 years ago (mixed in with some wrestling and mma) out of a gym in San Diego. After about 3 years I realized my hands weren't that great and started to practice boxing because my boxing coach literally said, "Mijo, you got some nice kicks but your hands suck, come to my class." 😅 It was only then when I started boxing some proficient boxers that I realized, "holy sh** my hands do suck." This was in comparison to them because I had that traditional squared up thai stance and all they needed to do was flick that jab. Now, 12 years later, I pride myself in my standup due to the incorporation of boxing into my muay thai. Long story short, Bravo! You hit the nail in the head with this video 👏

[@Krufessor_Rad]

🙏🏽

[@Graff_hub]

I’m a boxer and I’m thinking about training in Muay Thai but I’m not the flexible

[@WillPea]

Manny Pacquio actually had a kickboxing background (but also boxing)

[@starplatixum]

is sanshou or chinese kickboxing any good? I've heard it incorporates kickboxing and chinese wrestling (Shuai jiao) or something like that

[@Krufessor_Rad]

yes, i believe you're correct. I know Cung Li did very well in MMA coming from a serious Sanshou background and being very dominant there before switching over.

[@joshuarenfrey2665]

I trained in sanshou and I'm doing boxing ATM to build up my hands and going to take BJJ up as well for grappling and then look at competing in MMA

[@starplatixum]

@@joshuarenfrey2665 Is it good for a striking base

[@joshuarenfrey2665]

Yes it is

[@cutthroatcorn2815]

Sounds interesting I’m gonna look it up , kickboxing and wrestling are good combos , plus boxing if u can

[@wydrif]

Training Boxing & Muay thai at the same time. Good or Bad decision?

[@Krufessor_Rad]

it's good if you can manage it. I have done it from time to time.

[@jrpoverland]

@@Krufessor_Rad actually I am wondering that question as well. just signed up for boxing this week, and would still like to learn Muay Thai as well. Is it possible/ worth it? or is it counter intuitive to learn both at the same time?

[@Krufessor_Rad]

@@jrpoverland if you’re just starting our maybe develop a base in one of them so you don’t spread yourself to thin, but if you think you can manage it from a learning and retention aspect then go ahead and give it a shot. 😊🙏🏽

[@cutthroatcorn2815]

@@Krufessor_Radfacts but if u can manage it I would say box 3 days of the week And muAy thai the other 3 days and then rest on the one day

[@WillPea]

I’d say some of the key advantages of Muay Thai over Boxing would be: • TEEP • CLINCH • ELBOWS • KNEES • SWEEPS • TOUGHNESS …advantage of Boxing over Muay Thai would be: • ENDURANCE • HAND SPEED • HAND ARSENAL • AGILITY • MORE OPPORTUNITIES as a CAREER