Radeon 610M Gaming Benchmarks - The WEAKEST RDNA2 GPU...

Radeon 610M graphics are probably among the weakest of the integrated solutions available for modern systems, so are they any good for gaming, and if so, what sort of visual sacrifices do we have to make?
0:00 Intro and Test System
1:26 The Minisforum MKB i83 Keyboard
2:10 Counter-Strike 2
2:59 Elden Ring
3:23 The Finals
4:12 Grand Theft Auto V
4:43 The Witcher 3
5:12 Red Dead Redemption 2
5:44 Cyberpunk 2077
6:27 Fortnite
7:14 Final Thoughts
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[@Beisepimp]

This iGPU is maybe good for older games in a small mini pc. I've expected that it would perform better... I want to see the difference between the GT 610 and this 610M :D

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Now that would be interesting 😁

[@marlon.8051]

nah even for that its dissapointing, the ryzen 3 igpu is better

[@shepardpolska]

@@marlon.8051 Ryzen 3 you speak of is probably an APU, thus better iGPU

[@NoThisIsntMyChannel]

The GT 610 was barely any better than the IGPUs of 10 years ago, so it should be an easy win for the 610m

[@nastronomical]

Does it do 4k 120hz. Just for desktop usage.

[@fluf201playz]

I am surprised how "well" it did in Cyberpunk 2077, I was expecting alot worse.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah that one was an unexpected result

[@uncleKai_SWW]

If not for the quotations around "well", you’d have probably had 1billion negative comments. ( by now )

[@Maximus20778]

​@@uncleKai_SWWwhy?

[@alenko4763]

@@RandomGaminginHD Why though... RedEngine used in CP2077 is extremely optimized, both cpu and gpu wise.

[@b127_1]

Dragon Range is actually the same silicon as the desktop ryzen 7000 parts like the 7700x or 7950x. The only difference is the package, which is slightly smaller and doesn't have an IHS. The cores and IGPU are exactly the same. 2 CUs really isn't enough for any modern games, but I'm impressed how well you managed.

[@jameshare1848]

Looking forward to you getting hold of a mini PC with Meteor Lake inside

[@gustersongusterson4120]

Wouldn't a static pressure fan be better than an airflow focused fan?

[@KarlynGR]

Heya would it be possible to test the Intel GPU found in Core Ultra processors like the i7 155H? I'd love to see you test it!

[@inhotwater457]

What are those two coax connectors on the motherboard for? Wifi?

[@user-pi4cr1fh9j]

nice to see The Final's added to benchmarks, I'm curious as to how the chaos caused by destruction could effect lower end hardware

[@user-pi4cr1fh9j]

I did a bit of research and turns out the destruction for this game happens server side. Very nice to see devs think about lower end hardware it certainly helped my 980ti before I upgraded

[@brett9000]

RDNA2 Graphics is why I love my steam deck as it has a 8CU RDNA2 GPU and I am amazed at how much it can play. I have even been playing starfield on steam deck

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah same 😁

[@brett9000]

@RandomGaminginHD I am always amazed by amds igpus. I have built so many pcs over the years that started with an amd igpu, then got upgraded later, and they always had great performance. I actually still have an old PC sat here for sale with a AMD A10 7850k first gen kaveri chip and my brother used to play things like fallout 4 on it when it launched.

[@shepardpolska]

Steamdeck is pretty good because it has quad channel memory. More bandwitdh for the CUs. Z1 Extreme is not as good as you would expect from the specs because it only has 2 memory channels. 128bit vs 64bit memory controler.

[@kingkrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa4527]

​@@shepardpolska Both the Rog Ally and Steam Deck have 128Bit memory interface. The steam Deck just splits it up into 4 32Bit channels as opposed to 2 64Bit channels so bandwidth isn't really too different between them. The Steam Decks APU was designed for low power consumption in mind and the ROG ally was a laptop chip put into a handheld.

[@oo--7714]

It performs how you would expect, it has the same tflops as a. Series s, the memory bandwidth is just limited compared to consoles.@@shepardpolska

[@zevilaga]

Great video again. Would you consider making a series, where you test such low performance gpus differently? Instead of sticking to all the same current triple A titles you should test older games, where even these gpus can shine. I mean games like Just cause3, sleeping dogs, saints row4, Dirt rally2, etc? Just to show that they are good for gaming, but with other great games.

[@jon-paulgrainger1303]

Have a good Christmas dude.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

You too :)

[@T.Lspitz]

I actually LOVE the look of that keyboard and the size/layout is my usual preferred keyboard layout. My only complaint is it needs a knob/wheel for volume and other media controls.

[@JikoMuskato]

I never used an AMD iGPU - but is it possible to overclock it via Afterburner?

[@regisegek4675]

How is it compared tommy2016 laptop with N3700 plus Nvidia 920 M?

[@goregejones7248]

Hey would you compare 680m igpu vs gtx 680 ? It would be awsome to see

[@timmyp6297]

Hey dude I was thinking of something that would make a good video, and I thought you might want to look into it. I dont know if its video-worthy, but it might be. A DLSS-FG mod was just released, that converts FSR3 into DLSS-FG. It works very well, and my impressions after much time with it is that it is about equivalent to DLSS-FG, especially right now in Witcher 3. This mod is a dll drop into the executable library (Nukem9 I think is the dev) and the DLSS-DG option becomes enabled. This apparently works all the way down to 16 series! Now, onto the interesting question: Is FSR2, combined with DLSS-FG on the 1660ti/s, enough for RT effects on a 1660 in Witcher 3 (and anything else that might be a good example if it exists)? You might think its a stupid question, but then realize a 1660 can run RT and can enable RT in Witcher 3. Its close, but not there. Is it now?

[@ipoopmuffins]

i just got one of these, love it so far. but have you noticed that temperatures hit 90 degrees for a second on startup on your example? i may just have to try new thermal compound on mine if not.

[@funderburke43]

If it's only at startup and the come back down and it doesn't happen under load it's definitely not your TIM causing it

[@ipoopmuffins]

@@funderburke43 yea i havent had much time to test it yet, but im hoping its just at start. when i get more time to test it i will, just wanted to see if anyone else experienced that on their example too.

[@mandogvan4513]

The Minisforum keyboard didn't improve your noob shooter performance. Really enjoy your vids, ty

[@ivanmartinac31]

Hi I am building pc for my little brother and he only plays minecraft and roblox on my pc😂 So I am wondering can it go to 60 frames on normal settings on roblox and to 60 frames on normal setting on minecraft

[@derphael_4337]

Im slightly confused. How can Minimum FPS be higher than 1 and .1% lows? Isnt Minimum like a "0% low" if you will?

[@jtenorj]

The minimum is the lowest number of frames recorded in a single second's time. The 0.1% low shows how low the frame rate gets 0.1% of the time. This includes tiny stutters which happen in a relatively small fraction of a second, where the frame rates on either side of the stutter(if looking at a frame time graph) are relatively much higher.

[@dodgydruid]

Like to see how Return to Moria handles on various levels, on my R5-2600 machine with a RX580 it looks and plays abs brilliant, very very well optimised game considering the sizes of some of the playfields like the Dwarrowdelf which is not just long and wide but huge up and downwards too and you can see orcs right off in the distance. Imagine a game based on Lord of the Rings, mixed with some Elden Ring combat mechanics, add in a super easy to master aspect of building from Minecraft and you have RTM.

[@estraneo_d]

did you try enabling AFMF?

[@michaelwoods7770]

Hey interesting video idea here: test an MXM to PCIE gpu adapter. SO basically a laptop gpu that fits into a standard motherboard.

[@kaisercaesar]

This little igpu(mendocino zen2 6nm + 610m)is used for low end laptops.Its not a gaming apu but it does a decent job for older games.

[@BTS_technician]

Now THIS is content 😊

[@diegoleiva7242]

So somewhere between Vega 3 and Vega 8? I didn't know the 610M was cut down all that much.

[@shepardpolska]

610M only has 2 CUs after all, Vega 8 has 8CUs. Effectively Vega 8 has roughly 2 times the compute power. 610M is basicly a video adapter.

[@diegoleiva7242]

​@@shepardpolska Interesting. I've got a Vega 3 laptop as a spare and it's definitely slower than this 610M despite having 3 CUs from what I read. I guess that's down to having DDR4 instead of DDR5 available. Also it's got a measly 1 Ghz core clock speed which apparently is not overclockable on laptops, so it is what it is. Cheers.

[@shepardpolska]

@@diegoleiva7242 I don't think memory plas that big of a role here, at this CU count I am guessing that both DDR4 and 5 have enough bandwidth. 2 RDNA2 CUs have slightly more compute power then 3 Vega CUs. Navi also dealt with the architecture bottlenecks that all GCN GPUs suffered from.

[@WayStedYou]

its clocked at ~2ghz so it would surely beat the 1ghz vega @@diegoleiva7242

[@Maximus20778]

​​@@shepardpolskavideo adapter? Hmm nahh I don't see a video adapter playing cs2 at all

[@DaddyBleach]

would love to see sea of thieves added to the benchmarks list, it got a update to allow offline pve

[@BReal-10EC]

Is the power correct for the CPU and GPU? I figured the CPU power would be for both the CPU and GPU combined. Always wonder how the shared DDR ram hurts an iGPU's capabilities.

[@shepardpolska]

with 2 CUs, probably not a lot. You need bandwidth to feed the CUs, the less CUs you have the less bandwidth you need.

[@BonusCrook]

2:10 are you using a controller?

[@pweddy1]

The 7745HX is just a 7700X in a laptop package. It’s literally the same die. Which makes us a very odd product.

[@FFXfever]

It's odd to me that the igpu range is either a 2CU 610m or 8CU 660m. The 2CU is quite competent, but for alot of 7 series, even the higher mid range ones, it feels lacking.

[@cloudycolacorp]

I wonder why there’s even RT cores in it. Is it a chiplet thing where it’s a slice of a bigger chip?

[@deadruins]

Probably, Yeah. It’s not worth spending extra money and effort on designing a iGPU that have no tasks beyond display the image on monitor. I think it’s safe to assume that as heavily cut down version of other RDNA2 gpu.

[@shepardpolska]

They have RT cores, because the RT core shares function with Texturing units. It isn't really dedicated hardware, they made it so the Texturing units can accelerate Ray intersections. Taking out the RT cores would mean redesigning the Texturing units, which would be pretty pointless. It's not cut down, because it doesn't have anything dissabled on it. It was just designed with 2 CUs.

[@cloudycolacorp]

@@shepardpolska That’s interesting to know, thank you!

[@WayStedYou]

because rdnas compute units are used at RT cores, you cant take them out Its just the desktop part of AM5 parts put into a laptop, the 2CUs is really only for displaying and image on your screen.

[@shepardpolska]

@@WayStedYou more precisely, they build Ray acceleration into texturing units, and there is little point redesign that part for no reason.

[@TheDude50447]

This 2 CU gpu without dedicated vram performed way better than I expected.

[@vrocs3225]

Im running Dragons Dogma Dark Arisen on a similar laptop, getting 50-60fps on medium settings, kind of surprised!

[@bobysteorists]

That's actually what I need

[@UncleMikeRetro]

I came for the resounding "NO" and was surprised at the results.

[@rinsenpai135]

It's still technically "NO" if you aim for 1080p Native Lowest settings. Outside of GTA V, it was below 1080p for all other games.

[@naamadossantossilva4736]

It is amazing for what it is.But of course,we need a proper AM5 APU.

[@capoeragames2081]

it's tempting to build a mini pc and play 7th gen tittles, like a mini console, i'm surprised with the performance, i mean, imagine having that instead of a Graphics Media Acelerator back in the days hahaha

[@agamaz5650]

please can you try Dolphin and PCSX2?

[@CrocoDylianVT]

why 1080p 70% instead of just 720p

[@SHUTENSEPC]

That keyboard looks sleek

[@skewuulman3174]

Hey steve. I wanted to take a bit of your time because im confused. My computer has 8gb 3200 cl22 ram 1.2v. Im broke and found a. Cheap ram its also 1.2 volt, its a diffrent brand, has the same frequenvy and CAS latency. Should i mix it with my current ram ? Thanks in advance. Also my motherboard reports my current 8gb stick is running at 1.210 volts so im skeptical if these two rams will work in harmony with each other. Thanks appreciate it if u answer

[@raulaispuro4597]

It should work

[@MoultrieGeek]

As long as the frequency, timings and voltage are the same you *should* be okay but I'd run some memory tests just to be sure.

[@skewuulman3174]

@@raulaispuro4597 thanks I was really confused

[@MapOfEurasia]

That's great performance from that little GPU! Can you test it with Alan Wake 2? ❤

[@RandomGaminginHD]

I could try, but it will be a disaster 😁

[@Detank2002]

​@@RandomGaminginHDoh we love to see a good disaster, give it hell lmao

[@MapOfEurasia]

@@RandomGaminginHD Lets goooo 😁 now there's even the DLSS to FSR3 Frame Gen mod so free performance boost! LOL

[@whateverwhatever8902]

I used to play with a intel hd family graphics as a kid if i even had this back then I would've lost my mind, the good old days of 800x600 sub 30 fps good times

[@Nightingale1887]

Imagine this in a few years with matured DLSS/FSR support. Should, could and will be great.

[@andrewmutavi590]

Imagine if ut came with the 680m or 780m with support for 6000mhz ram?wouldn't that be something?

[@EcksGamer]

With this system i would pair a RX 6600 to it just to be a little bit better for 1440p gaming but would like to see how this would run using a RX 6400 in it.

[@exaltedb]

2:47 I see the bots are learning

[@HairyScrambler]

I can’t believe you the hardware guru hasn’t owned a mechanical keyboard. It’s fun to get into on the side I’d love some keyboard reviews from you

[@Trick-Framed]

Hardware Guru? I do not think he would call himself that.

[@HuntaKiller91]

Amd really should shift their focus towards the betterment of igpu I won't care much bout ipc if 5700x is still decent for 1080p gaming At least give us 8cu rdna3.5 for nxtgen igpu and max it at 16cu to make it be rx6500m level

[@Boyer316]

"We can see the enemy players" in The Finals with not a soul in sight 😂

[@Fabulos1]

He meant the icons on screen when he jumped down.

[@markjovan123]

Still no Alan Wake 2?

[@vladyk34]

❤

[@pauls4522]

How does this compare to the onboard graphics on the 200GE or the 2200G from several years back? Obviously with those older chips you will be using a much weaker CPU and older memory subsystem. But since this is only 2 CUs, despite being RDNA2 that really sounds like a massive intentional bottleneck to block people from attempting to budget game.

[@Snowdonaras]

Around 18 months ago I got back into PC gaming by buying a second hand prebuilt with a 2200G. It ended up performing surprisingly well, managing 1080p high at or near 60fps in quite a lot of modern games so long as you turn off AA, which to me felt like a much better experience than dropping both the in game settings and the resolution to have AA

[@xXx-ui8eu]

Brother i bought a case is this good or no? Cpu i5 6500 Gpu rx580 16gig ram 1tb hdd Ssd256 Psw dont know what but 650w For 220usd

[@corruptedpoison1]

Good for 1080p

[@exaltedb]

For $220 that is kind of a steal

[@andyshtroymish4997]

​@@exaltedb Wouldn't say that but not that bad for older games. CPU can be upgraded to some Xeon E3-1230...1270 relatively cheap and the beast is good to go for some few years ahead. As is, though...

[@MapOfEurasia]

Resell the i5 and the RX580, throw a nice Xeon 4c/8t and an RX6600 in it and you'll good to go for the newest titles 👌

[@cristod1904]

Wait hold on, just fyi Xeons don't work on regular 1151 boards iirc, so better check the CPU support list on the motherboard before grabbing an upgrade.

[@easenst1978]

recent UK eBay have a £60 Dell RX 6300 😎 maybe a interesting card

[@kai84m]

2 CU of RDNA2, does it mean it is the same iGPU built into the Desktop Zen4 chips?

[@shepardpolska]

Zen4 chips use the same layout, 2CUs of RDNA2, but the one on the Zen4 boosts to 2200Mhz instead of 1900Mhz and is somewhat faster because of that.

[@WayStedYou]

It is zen4 just put onto a mobile package

[@ehsanyaquti1341]

I want to see "Radeon 610M vs. Intel UHD 7X0."

[@SteelRhinoXpress]

How does this compare to say a vega 7?

[@shepardpolska]

Vega 7 would be around 70-80% faster. Vega 8 is almost twice the speed.

[@WayStedYou]

it doesnt.

[@Maximus20778]

​@@shepardpolskayet they perform badly compared to the 610m?

[@SkyBeyondSkyVM]

how much difference with 3200G vega 8?

[@FFXfever]

Different tier. Vega 8 is atleast 50% faster if both have no tdp limit.

[@SkyBeyondSkyVM]

i see my R3 3200G Vega 8 still Holding on

[@Rmm1722]

nice

[@wertywerrtyson5529]

I have this in my 7320U laptop. I wasn’t expecting much but it should have been better than Vega at least.

[@SteelRhinoXpress]

Still better than Vega 3 so i mean, there is that, I suppose. but what do you expect from a low tier cpu. be like being disappointed that a intel N300 Xe igpu with 32 compute units has a hard time playing anything remotely modern.

[@WayStedYou]

Why would it be better? it only has 2 compute units its the integrated graphics from a regular desktop part

[@FFXfever]

​@@WayStedYou 610m is on a newer architecture. Vega 3 is much slower than this, even if you overclock the pc version (good ole reliable athlon 3000g)

[@Maximus20778]

​@@SteelRhinoXpressthose chips aren't optimized for gaming in no way

[@FitzGeraldGamingJr]

The Finals runs the same on my 3200G Vega 8

[@pauls4522]

The Finals is probably more CPU Bound than GPU Bound. The Athlon 3200G is a much older, slower Zen+ish generation of CPU which is a lot slower than Zen 2 and day and night difference from Zen 3 and 4. The GPU is technically stronger, in the 3200G because more compute, but because the CPU is so much slower it sort of balances out. The conveniently similiar to what AMD did with other APU generations past 2000/3000G era. That is reduce the CUs, but bump the GPU clock a little, to further limit the potential of the GPU side of things to sort of "Cap" overally APU gaming performance to be in line what we saw back in 2018/2019.

[@nsawatchlistbait289]

My laptop has it. Ryzen 3 7320u

[@TheSpotify95]

So basically, this iGPU is no good and only really suited towards general usage tasks, so you'd have to go for the dedicated graphics if you wanted to game on this MB. Trouble is, this MB only has one PCIe slot, so if you use it for a GPU, you can't use it for SATA additions. Ultimately, that board should really be best avoided unless you want a multimedia PC, or don't care about SATA... For a multimedia PC you can probably get something else cheaper anyways.

[@Deathdemon65]

If they provided like 2 or 3 more compute units it's would be much much much more capable but I guess that would turn into a APU rather the. A cpu

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah this is basically for simple tasks really. Nice to see it can game though!

[@WayStedYou]

but that would require them making an entirely new part, this is just reusing desktop parts

[@imac5834]

This is still better than my pc 😂

[@f0x4nn3]

For The Finals, i saw better a performance uplift with XeSS then FSR2.

[@lepyti]

I bet this is more powerful than the nintendo switch 😂

[@NukaOrQuantum...]

The "Weakest" is better than the $800 office computer I'm currently watching this on...

[@burrfoottopknot]

I think i had vaseline all over my screen, a blurry and horrible scene from "upscaling" infected my screen?

[@Chill_Mode_JD]

Keyboard kinda reminds me of the razer huntsman

[@Trick-Framed]

AMD is not making super fast APUs due to agreements made with console manufacturers. They sell more to them then they ever would on their own but interestingly enough, Intel saw this years ago and started making dGPUs so they could eventually launch the type of APUs that AMD can only dream of while supplying console makers. And I have this really creeping suspicion that Intel will start to outsell AMD when they hit market.

[@tyre1337]

seems to be on par with an intel iGPU

[@dovahkiin2108]

That Jew'o channel ddr5 really helped that igpu.

[@markman090]

link?

[@oo--7714]

Slower than my 3500u, grim

[@garyzzz]

That big heatsink could handle bigger cpu so i think this is a bad choice from amd.

[@maverick6c631]

Pretty depressing. I want a low watt profile gpu with RX 580/570 equivalent cost around existing second hand pricing ( 50$-60$) .

[@JoseLucasd]

We're not jesus to do miracles. But u maybe found some rx6500xt at this price huh, but u need pcie 4.0.

[@Reploid-dj9jc]

You can get a 1060 6gb for around that price , performance is close enough to what you want. ,

[@maverick6c631]

@@Reploid-dj9jc 1060 are same gpu generation. AMD Polaris and Nvidia Pascal

[@JoseLucasd]

@@Reploid-dj9jc 1060 hasnt a low power consumption and isnt lp.

[@mver191]

This card is so random. It performs relatively(!) well on games that are demanding like Cyberpunk and then completely craps itself at old games like CS2.

[@voltazh]

Kinda funny, it behaves almost exactly the same as my old AMD APU 7850K

[@25myma]

The 610m might be OK on a low enf R3/R5, for office work, but on an 8 core Ryzen 7?? This is worse than the previous Vega7 and 8 they had, and this while we literally don't have entry level GPUs anymore. Make decent APUs AMD, or gamers are much better off going for a 5600x and a vega56/1070ti on the used market.

[@ElGracindo]

Buy a gaming laptop not this, easy

[@WayStedYou]

its literally just the desktop 7700 in laptop form why are you expecting it to be anything else

[@PongWithBreakout]

GTA 5 in 1080p at 40 fps? There's something wrong here...

[@NexXxus86]

gosh. isn't the steamdecks igpu already better than this?

[@JoseLucasd]

This is worst than a rx550

[@pikkyuukyuun4741]

i once owned a nvidia gt 610m. never again

[@qx1381]

This is running like an old Ryzen 2200G

[@CrocoDylianVT]

the fact it's weaker than the Vega 6 is just sad

[@qx1381]

If only it has 780m with 12CU.

[@TrusteftTech]

Finally an AMD APU playing like an Intel one. Ha!

[@nailil5722]

please test GTA 4

[@mikenewbold1699]

i use to watch this channel years ago you must be depressed doing same thing over and over. i like when you branched out to reviewing cars

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Car reviews will be back next year. Going to put a lot more effort, time and most likely money into getting that channel going again

[@mikenewbold1699]

fairplay mate only so many 100's of graphics card reviews you can do you must be exausted@@RandomGaminginHD

[@WayStedYou]

almost like some kind of... job?

[@markman090]

The fact that you posted a insensitive drunk comment says more about you than the channel creator.

[@TheBeach14]

At first i thought it was gt 610m

[@manurz1]

it perform like vega8 apu

[@JoseLucasd]

Hell no. Even zen+ vega 8 is better than this.

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

Nah, i get batter result in rdr2 than this on vega igpu on my laptop igpu

[@WayStedYou]

no it doesnt

[@takehirolol5962]

Just please, when you review the RTX 3050 6 GB, please don't recommend it.

[@christianmino3753]

Third comment woop LMAO

[@RoderikvanReekum]

Yes Yes Yes a solid FIRST FIRST FIRST 🥇🏆🍾🥂👏🇳🇱🥳

[@Unboundiing]

You’ve got it king

[@christianmino3753]

god damn you lol i was THIS CLOSE

[@RotcodFox]

This seems to be about on-par with a GTX 1650, maybe a tiny bit weaker. Still impressive for an APU, I bet it's pretty decent at emulation

[@tyler6602]

techpowerup says the 1650 has 600% more performance and i know it is way better than this from first hand experience

[@NextRetro]

nah, he performs worse than my 5600g

[@theinktician]

,..what? 😂 Is this a bot?

[@acwbit2368]

Please be joking 💀

[@RotcodFox]

@Duuh_Eazy Nah the 780m is closer to a 1660 Super

[@babushka10]

Day 10 of asking for a PC for my college. (⁠˘⁠･⁠_⁠･⁠˘⁠)

[@minhajulislam2295]

I thought this was a gt610