Radio Track Test : Sanwa versus Flysky

[@kevinwest1607]

Noble is taking over at my track. My son runs it,and loves it. We have been running it since December and the build quality is second to none. It's plenty fast as well.

[@netcruzer]

Hi Phil, great to see you on KZbin and thanks for testing this! My last test was with a Sanwa MTS in FH4 1way mode with SSR vs a Noble NB4, and I also found the Sanwa felt a bit more responsive and on high speed video it did react quicker to input, so the Sanwa is lower latency, but they are within 1ms so it's a very minor difference. Looks to be similar moving up generation newer to FH5 protocol on Sanwa vs a Noble Pro. They both got every so slightly more responsive and refined.

[@RC-Engineering]

Hi John, much appreciated! While latency is important, there is more to the feel of the controller. How the A-to-D and D-to-A converters handle the info stream is the major influence. Sanwa has typically been a leader in this (explains why many pro drivers that don't have a radio deal choose Sanwa). The purpose of the test was to see if I could detect a difference and I was pleasantly surprised with the results. Sanwa is still great but it's also good to see the Noble Pro is a real option, especially at the price of their receivers.

[@chowettgoes]

Appreciate you taking the time to test these handsets and sharing your findings, super useful 👍

[@gainsrc]

Good to see people coming around to the NB4. For me it was Futaba 4PM or the Noble NB4. After holding both in my hand I chose the NB4. Been very happy with it so far.

[@asif34]

It was exactly the same with me i was debating thr 4pm or thr noble. Deciding factor for me was i prefered the noble interface was far more user friendly and intuative. Raced with the noble this week for the first time and felt great.

[@jn8218]

NB4 and NB4 pro are truly bang for the buck !

[@chriskline980]

I just recently switched from a sanwa also. I got my throttle feel back by switching the "throttle mid" to 70% throttle 30% brake

[@dennisbeck2521]

Thank you very much for compiling and sharing this info.

[@roberttruesdell6151]

If you use the New recievers (B) models they are enhanced and I believe with the newest firmware it supports the faster servos

[@power21100]

you have to check out the Radiomaster MT12!

[@style26062]

I've been racing 1/8 scale off-road with my Noble Pro since I got into racing about a year ago. I'm very happy with the performance. I've tried a few Sanwas at the track and I think I'm too used to the adjustable steering wheel on the NB4. I drive with mine at around 45deg. One tip on your throttle feel. You can adjust both the trigger tension and the trigger position to get a better feel ergonomically. I also typically reduce the neutral position to 6% on my ESCs. Really enjoyed this comparison, keep up the good work!

[@elliotbaltazar]

Great comment Paul. Have you compared the NB4 Pro to the NB4 or did you get the Pro straight away?

[@RC-Engineering]

Thanks for the throttle tips. I have the spring tension low (as anybody who's picked up one of my radios can attest to!). I've been told about reducing the deadband in the ESC and will experiment with that :)

[@chickenfist1554]

Here in the UK you're not allowed to race unless you're using a Sanwa transmitter. (sarcasm)

[@joeo8396]

Great video, Im thinking of getting the flysky pro. Tell me more about the cars you are running and what track you are racing at. I have a xray t4 2017. A new indoor track just opened near me. I will have time the beginning of the new year to practice during the week. I like the flysky because of the price of the receiver too. Nearly half as much as the sanwa and the futaba. When you have several cars it make a difference.

[@elliotbaltazar]

Great commentary! Thank you.

[@warracer03]

CTSR ? I race there haha , such a cool RC complex

[@ParkerBay-v1z]

Really enjoyed your detailed comparison of the radios. I own a MT5 and am still trying to get the most out of using SSR with their compatible Servos. I am moving away from 1/10 Off-road towards TC and possibly F1 chassis. When I came across a Tekin (transmitter binding )ESC problem with my MT-5 I started looking into a NOBLE NB4. It was interesting hearing your legacy of your transmitter usage. Would you say moving to a Flysky would better suited to a Noble Pro vs the NB4? Not to alarm any NB4 users here, I am just at the pulling the trigger (no pun intended) investing wise. My model count/kit builds has ramped up recently. I will be racing indoors this fall and have the summer to tool and test around each. As you did and provided some great A/B comparisons. Appreciated the detailed overlap of your results. Great Work. Thanks Cary Canada P.S. Any comments out there about steering dead zone problems of NB4 vs the Noble Pro. Or perhaps not enough to worry or compare. It came up in my research comparing the two models.

[@RC-Engineering]

I haven't tried the regular NB4 and was specifically looking for the small advantages built into the Pro. My thoughts are that with the very small change from 2-way to 1-way improving the overall feel in my testing, I'd think any gains in the changes made for the Pro would translate directly on track.

[@ParkerBay-v1z]

@@RC-Engineering Since my comment I ordered a Noble Pro and a Flysky FGR4S (as per your comparison) I noticed the FGr4 has a sensor port where the FGr4S does not. Would this matter in using the 2 way features. So far my Noble Pro order includes them both. Are you satisfied with the FGR4S on its as per your testing for this video? Btw RC Champs! TO...I race off-road at Elite Racing (North Barrie) but looking to the fall to join on road indoor. Thanks again for the helpful comparison and your reply.

[@denisjanjos6637]

​@@ParkerBay-v1zthere are also enhanced receivers with a "b" at the end as an indicator. They are at least a bit easier to bind and they let you also Set different hertz for your electronic. Just in case you didnt know

[@RayRivvy]

I have just stepped into RC specifically Associate RC10B6.4D 1/10 2WD which runs at our local track. As a beginner with a descent budget what would be a couple of recommendations ?

[@simonpeterdalangpan9761]

Sanwa has joined the chat room 😅😂

[@fred1606]

Do they have one where the wheel can rotated for left hand operation- right hand/finger on stick/trigger?

[@RC-Engineering]

The Noble radio (regular and Pro) is BOTH left and right. When you take it out of the case the wheel is pointed away in the center and you need to rotate it to the side you want. It's "stiff" to rotate so it doesn't move when using it. It also means that you can adjust the angle you want, being able to offset like other brands need plates to do. When you look under the screen, there is a protractor to show the angle you have it set at to easily set it back at that angle every time. Quite a simple and smart solution :)

[@agfeos8789]

What is the Nobble Pro like today in 2024. Is it better than a Sanwa M17

[@MX-CO]

What is everyone's thoughts on a flysky fs-g7p?

[@MX-CO]

Is a flysky fs-g7p ok for racing for someone on a budget?

[@speedup]

i run only the internal battery and remove the bottom battery

[@rogerserafin]

For the Noble Pro, how did you customized that screen ? I like the look of that as it gives a different look compared to the original screen.

[@RC-Engineering]

On the main screen, you can "turn off" seeing the channels you don't use by pressing anywhere in the lower main screen and a menu to change what you see in the lower portion appears.

[@meudrone4k369]

Chique 🏎💥💨😎😍👍🏻💪🏼🤛🏻

[@robertshelton2605]

What is the price point on both?

[@LJoel]

The pro price point went too far. The original is the sweet spot of value

[@BlakeJinesStorey]

Where do you get the Silicone wheel?

[@RC-Engineering]

It's a Vigor silicon wheel. I've had it for years, on several radios, and don't remember where I got it. It cleans with a quick wipe of anything other than a harsh chemical and provides the same feel run after run. Highly recommended and I don't really know why more people don't use them 🤷‍♂️

[@gqp4800]

M8 rules in '90s. Ran Schumacher, hpi tamiya long long ago

[@musaedalqattan8976]

20 years i use futaba one month i go ti nb4 pro nathings like nb4pro

[@TheCabledawg1]

Google can't seem to translate this to english. I think you used Futaba for 20 years and then something about nathings....did you mean nathan?

[@warmfreeze]

flysky protocol is completely flawed.. they gain latency with distance.. literally every flysky I've ever had after a few hundred feet you will notice huge delays between your input on the controller and the car actually doing something.. i even noticed it on the track.. our local track has a jump and then a tunnel in the center of the jump.. i notice the controls getting a bit limp around that mount of dirt and even somewhat at the back of the track which isnt far.. :/

[@roberttruesdell6151]

BS. Just a hater. I have Futaba 7px, 10px, M17, NB4, RC8x I prefer the NB4 feels better and no issue with range or latency. Already sold the Radiolink, and Sanwa and seriously considering selling the 10px for the Noble Pro.

[@warmfreeze]

@@roberttruesdell6151 yes because i stated my personal experience and multiple other peoples experience at the local track i am a "hater"

[@phmaximus]

​@@warmfreezewhat model? I hope you are not comparing a gt3 with the old AFHDS to the Noble?

[@kennysilvers-z4x]

I doubt the nb4 has the issues you mentioned considering that Mugen Seiki, David Ronnefalk, and RYAN MAIFIELD signed with FlySky after trying the nb4 pro.

[@user-rx8qq8sk9ydv1ce5ib]

I got the Sanwa m 12r but disappointed about its cheap plastic 1980s quality, plus heavy weight. I sent to sanwa japan a complaint and they didn’t care.

[@aaronperelmuter8433]

Well, why would they? I mean, what exactly were you expecting them to say/do? Did u think they’d send one of their latest radios to u for free or something? Seriously, they’re a worldwide, multinational company so why the hell would they care about someone complaining about cheap plastics on a product that’s been out of production for, what, nearly a decade now? Not to mention, u complained to the Japanese site but I’m guessing u didn’t bother using Google translate and sending your message in THEIR language, as in, Japanese? You need to be realistic when dealing with big companies and complaining about discontinued products. What were you expecting them to do mate?

[@JohnStenborg]

…Radiomaster MT12 with open source EdgeTX multiprotocol and or ELRS protocol and internal and or external module and totally open programming with no restriction or forced into closed brand-protected limitations and forerunners and inventness and futureproof and both faster and longer range and a lot lot lot cheaper and friendly community and five star customer feedback and warehouses globally and no chinese plastic toy design nor mock fancy chinese android mobile phone look and…

[@marcoscimbom]

😭

[@roberttruesdell6151]

And it’s ugly as sin huge and overly complex to set up for no reason. No thanks. When they streamline it more then I’ll give it ago. Until then it will be strictly drone protocol