Radius of convergence using Ratio Test

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@minecraftion25565
@minecraftion25565 7 жыл бұрын
I could've gotten this information in 135 minutes-worth of lessons, but I got it in 7 minutes on Khan Academy (in a way that I can actually understand). Man, I love Khan Academy. It's the only reason I'm passing my calculus class.
@AD-wg8ik
@AD-wg8ik 5 ай бұрын
was it worth it
@mrslovvet
@mrslovvet 10 жыл бұрын
Not that it really matters, but in the yellow line at the top where you expanded the series, the third term has a 4 in the denominator when it should have a 3 (n = 3). Otherwise, awesome video! These really help me study for my midterm.
@jasonvegan5761
@jasonvegan5761 10 жыл бұрын
Yea, the series wasn't expanded correctly but I think most people probably noticed the error so no big deal
@raycooper1943
@raycooper1943 8 жыл бұрын
+Jason Owen Yes, it was noticed, and it is not a big deal.
@sudiptoghosh5740
@sudiptoghosh5740 6 жыл бұрын
Yes it is quite conspicuous
@frettchen1498
@frettchen1498 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I was really confused at first
@sathvikswaminathan7933
@sathvikswaminathan7933 5 жыл бұрын
the values x=4 and x=-4 also need to be checked since at those values, the ratio test in inconclusive but by the p series and alternating series test, it can be proved that at these two values, the series converges. Therefore x belongs to [-4,4] and not (-4,4)
@masonbanas9864
@masonbanas9864 5 жыл бұрын
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@manuelhernandaz2147
@manuelhernandaz2147 6 жыл бұрын
I just want to say thank you for doing these comprehensive videos. My calculous teacher just can’t seem to explain it so it clicks, your really helping me save my grade and learn. Thank you
@thedarkgenious7967
@thedarkgenious7967 5 жыл бұрын
thanks. My calc 2 professor went on for 4 hours of drawn out rambling over 2 lectures trying to teach us what the radius of convergence/interval of convergence was and how to find them. I learned more in this 7 minute video than those lectures.
@chesterfieldtales1340
@chesterfieldtales1340 3 жыл бұрын
Same.
@magicguy1988
@magicguy1988 10 жыл бұрын
Technically you need to check x=4 and x= -4 for convergence since the ratio test yields no conclusion when L=1
@yongbowang1444
@yongbowang1444 7 жыл бұрын
Agree
@paulyu7739
@paulyu7739 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@nolanison6642
@nolanison6642 6 жыл бұрын
You plug those points in for x and solve that particular series for convergence.
@Grassmpl
@Grassmpl 5 жыл бұрын
Yep that's right. In this case both endpoints converge by the p-series test
@cortisol_induced_coma
@cortisol_induced_coma 2 жыл бұрын
I wish all professors could explain things as simply as you
@krazywyatt2638
@krazywyatt2638 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, you're a great teacher!
@zsolttildy5742
@zsolttildy5742 7 жыл бұрын
tryna do the question and the same time as sal and lowkey beat him then he starts pulling out the copy paste function and you know its game over smh sal
@sandeepchoudhary4065
@sandeepchoudhary4065 5 жыл бұрын
you my friend are a life saver Thank you so much.
@kazlee6909
@kazlee6909 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryan Maccombs!! Good video as always :)
@Copybook
@Copybook 2 жыл бұрын
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@shreeramaashokaadakoli6784
@shreeramaashokaadakoli6784 5 жыл бұрын
You're awesome sir Sal thanks a lot
@mazahiranjum175
@mazahiranjum175 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Khan academy
@edrinabenes9754
@edrinabenes9754 8 жыл бұрын
when n=3, isn't the second term of the denominator 3^4?
@windowslogo3577
@windowslogo3577 5 жыл бұрын
it is.
@Grassmpl
@Grassmpl 5 жыл бұрын
BOTH of what you boxed were the interval of convergence. The radius of convergence is the number 4 itself. Half the interval length
@luciazazel2683
@luciazazel2683 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing what you do!
@hurrdurr25
@hurrdurr25 8 жыл бұрын
but you didn't check the endpoints
@epicgamermoments4900
@epicgamermoments4900 4 жыл бұрын
As far as I'm aware, the endpoints don't affect the radius of convergence. The radius is the same whether defined as (a-R, a+R) or [a-R, a+R]
@priyanshmehta9988
@priyanshmehta9988 4 жыл бұрын
@@epicgamermoments4900 Yeah, it doesn't affect the radius of convergence, but he has to check that for interval of convergence
@stumbling
@stumbling 8 жыл бұрын
Is it accurate to state?: "For arithmetic series, the *difference* between consecutive terms is constant. For geometric series, the *ratio* between consecutive terms is constant."
@monicaelizabeth4069
@monicaelizabeth4069 8 жыл бұрын
Yes
@mahimakalani2647
@mahimakalani2647 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you is all I wish to say...
@aiicwyt6768
@aiicwyt6768 7 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to Mr. Achille’s class!
@ansarsultan
@ansarsultan 3 жыл бұрын
thank u very very very very much
@bowenjudd1028
@bowenjudd1028 7 ай бұрын
I'm in foundations and we defined R = 1/lim sup |c|^1/k
@terrienichols204
@terrienichols204 19 күн бұрын
Why do we not test the end points for convergence? In other words, could it be the case that the interval is not (-4, 4) but [-4, 4] or [-4, 4) or (-4, 4]. Shouldn't we address the endpoints?
@ZephyrCheez
@ZephyrCheez 3 жыл бұрын
You made a mistake in the beginning, the third one should have 4^3 * 3^4, since n is equal to 3 in that scenario
@cristianferretty6971
@cristianferretty6971 8 жыл бұрын
thank you so much man, seriously.
@cookiesizYumaah
@cookiesizYumaah 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great work!
@jackzheng8535
@jackzheng8535 2 жыл бұрын
you are king
@mechwise6811
@mechwise6811 Ай бұрын
The radius is 2, because it is always half of the interval
@Vathanaization
@Vathanaization 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@echessbee
@echessbee 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@freyappari
@freyappari 7 ай бұрын
W explanation
@whoisbobby3
@whoisbobby3 8 жыл бұрын
N=3 is wrong
@alexwhetstone4464
@alexwhetstone4464 Жыл бұрын
thankyou
@michaelfjmusic
@michaelfjmusic 6 жыл бұрын
Extremely helpful video, but I don't understand why he was able to simplify (n + 1)^4 so easily? It just seems too good to be true and I don't fully understand it.
@annie_adler
@annie_adler 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Judd actually, you don't need to expand it in full. As the video shows, the only thing you need to know about (n-1)^4 is that its term with the highest order is n^4. That's enough for you to simplify the limits.
@ivideos7348
@ivideos7348 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks !
@Redblade15
@Redblade15 8 жыл бұрын
thank you
@real_john_doe
@real_john_doe 6 жыл бұрын
The fact that he missed n=3 in the denominator in the very beginning makes absolutely no difference here. Stop nitpicking.
@zhangdingkang781
@zhangdingkang781 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@babingurung255
@babingurung255 8 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@musahamza5829
@musahamza5829 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. . .
@froh_do4431
@froh_do4431 4 жыл бұрын
how we are going to know that something has to be < 1 for convergence at 6:00? Is that a more complicated statement to show at this moment?
@tylerdee7529
@tylerdee7529 3 жыл бұрын
The Ratio test says that as long as the limit to infinity of the ratio is less than 1, it converges. After simplifying the limit of the ratio, we are left with an x-term. So basically the function converges if this x-term is less than 1
@RCstrava
@RCstrava 3 ай бұрын
Yay finally get it
@jacklazzaro9820
@jacklazzaro9820 3 жыл бұрын
0:59 That’s wrong. It’s 4^3 * 3^4.
@MrBoriskaful
@MrBoriskaful 7 жыл бұрын
HOW CAN I KNOW WHICH TEST I SHOULD APPLY WHEN I SEE THE QUESTION I AM GOING CRAZY AHHHH
@nishasingh-yu6ln
@nishasingh-yu6ln 7 жыл бұрын
but sir what about at point x =4 and x=-4 ...we have to check at end points.....
@harrisonbellis8178
@harrisonbellis8178 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't had lectures on this yet but intuitively I guess you should put x=4 into the expression for the general term of the summation to get a P-series which in this case gives 4/n^4 or 4 times the sum of 1/n^4 which is a convergent P series.
@candykiss024
@candykiss024 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, all you do is plug it back in and use some tests to see if it converges or not
@HowViolet
@HowViolet 2 жыл бұрын
I never listen to lectures anymore... and my grades couldn't be better.... is that bad lol?!
@drmichaelsunsschoolformath
@drmichaelsunsschoolformath 2 жыл бұрын
At the start when you say x=1,2,3.. u mean n=1,2,3...
@curtpiazza1688
@curtpiazza1688 Жыл бұрын
Great ! 😊
@titusadams5288
@titusadams5288 10 жыл бұрын
thank you!!
@arealhumanbeann
@arealhumanbeann 4 жыл бұрын
just exactly what i need lmao
@plasma8321
@plasma8321 3 жыл бұрын
what if its, the ones that gives you more than one number?
@priyanshu715
@priyanshu715 4 жыл бұрын
1:40 the third terms is wrong (silly mistake)
@BROBOTwithhope
@BROBOTwithhope 8 жыл бұрын
wrong im pretty sure, or he made an error in the middle and fixed it later somehow
@1Naif
@1Naif 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@m.sripadh4338
@m.sripadh4338 5 жыл бұрын
will you please tell me the software name which you are using?
@jinglemich4941
@jinglemich4941 5 жыл бұрын
Let's say...
@nihalgupta5009
@nihalgupta5009 7 жыл бұрын
sir,which software is this?
@stefanosadane977
@stefanosadane977 2 жыл бұрын
gonna burn down that useless text book
@rintumondal5658
@rintumondal5658 2 жыл бұрын
Oh ho ;)
@thenozar7603
@thenozar7603 8 жыл бұрын
n=1, n=2, n=4? Someone missed a 3
@marklvrd
@marklvrd 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my textbook sucks...
@markwilders5436
@markwilders5436 5 жыл бұрын
Fix you voice
@nosirrahonline
@nosirrahonline 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
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