RAeS Alan Bristow Memorial Lecture: An introduction to the Lilium jet

[@tonyblighe5696]

Excellent presentation. Having the test pilot talk gives far more depth than a sales presentation. Thank you.

[@XPLAlN]

“Manned flight from the beginning and hopefully, yes, it will be me. Erm….[evident quiver in voice]”. That’s reassuring then.

[@tomcockcroft9394]

Why don’t Lilium put in a range extender generator to double the range?

[@mariusmartinsen2064]

Very very interesting. Last question asked how it cope with few engines not working. Lilium showed this on Phenix by trust vectoring. Other engines can overtake failed ones duties

[@dtworldwide3419]

Amazing 🤩

[@XPLAlN]

The first manned flight is no longer going to happen this year, according to Lilium. The pattern of quietly slipping back tangible results continues. This latest failure should surprise no astute person who has been following the PR of this company for these last 10 years.

[@XPLAlN]

Now in administration. Never did fly a manned prototype.

[@aa777888]

No discussion about potential or target business cases for this product. Probably because there are no viable ones to discuss...

[@mariusmartinsen2064]

You have time for comment, but no time to visit lilium website 😂

[@aa777888]

@@mariusmartinsen2064 how do you know I haven't reviewed the website? In fact I did. Only a few pages on the business model available in the "corporate presentation". Bold claim of $3 CASM (cost of available seat mile). Multiplied by 6 seats that's $18 cost per mile at 100% load factor. Meanwhile Southwest reports $24 per mile and they have huge economy of scale in comparison. No discussion at all of revenue available per seat mile (RASM). Where are the analyses? Bold claims of 3700 aircraft p.a. There isn't enough viable (capable of producing a market) vertiport space in the world for that. Indeed, just from a pure real estate perspective that's extremely improbable. Make the analysis public, otherwise it's just all hand waving. The time savings claims in the corporate presentation are ridiculous. The Lilium times represent only air travel time. There is no door-to-door time analysis. Look at door-to-door and all of a sudden ground transport looks a lot better, and a lot less expensive. Nothing makes sense. The joke is on the investors...

[@CP-zi3eg]

Batteries and noise are subjects still poor covered by these manufacturers and very convincing public flights practically don't exist.

[@mariusmartinsen2064]

Do your dd especially about Lilium

[@abvmoose87]

God hes longwinded, takes forever to say anything. Frankly I would ve concerned having this guy at a chief position of anything. No wonder they havent gotten off the ground with s piloted flight yet while Joby is speeding ahead. I could only sit through 7 min til I nearly fell a sleep here.