Nice review! I used these three times two years ago and they were amazing! Being a bit of a tinkerer and not leaving well enough alone, I made a modification after thinking they were a bit tough to open. I opened them, looked at the retention method and thought “hmmmm”. I sanded the bottom of the blades with 1000 grit paper, then 1500 and finally 3000. They opened fantastic and had zero damage on the three deer.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that.
@brentbarnetthuntingАй бұрын
Because of your videos John, I'm going with the Exact Archery 4-blade this year. Good luck to you!
@LuskArcheryAdventures20 күн бұрын
They’ve done a great job with those. Heard of some people getting them only the blades were not that sharp. They’re not very difficult to re-sharpen, but when you order them, you may want to ask if there’s anything they can do to make sure you get the sharpest ones. And remember you can use my discount code to save an extra bit.
@dansmith504622 күн бұрын
You are great! I love the quick videos but thorough review.
@LuskArcheryAdventures21 күн бұрын
Thank you, Dan. That’s really kind of you to say. It’s hard to find the balance of being really comprehensive, but not too wordy. I still get a number of people complaining that the videos are too long or too short. I know I can’t please everyone but when I hear words like yours, it makes me smile.
@terrynicewonger54342 ай бұрын
Any real hunter can appreciate the time and expense you put into trying heads…. Thank you Sir
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@richarddean31542 ай бұрын
Thanks for the honest review.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thank you. That’s my goal-showing the good and the not so good.
@ericlind35692 ай бұрын
Great accuracy, great sharpness, but after seeing confirmation of the blades not functioning properly…I don’t know why anyone would trust these heads. I work too hard for opportunities at deer to launch a question mark at a deer.
@brockmeschiati29612 ай бұрын
Same here, as a chital (axis) deer hunter the opportunities just aren't there to risk using mechanical when 2 blades work so well.
@yournotthatguypal97492 ай бұрын
They will not disappoint you one of the best broadheads made they aren’t crazy expensive either and the blood trails speak for itself
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@ericlind35692 ай бұрын
@@yournotthatguypal9749 I’ve tried them many years ago and recently Turkey hunting. Not really impressed.
@OzarkPursuit7883Ай бұрын
I lost two deer with these, pass through shots. Went back to fixed blade and never had a problem again. I don't think they opened on the deer, ruined my mindset on mechanicals. Great test, thanks John!
@LuskArcheryAdventuresАй бұрын
Thanks for sharing that experience!
@Danyang12 ай бұрын
Probably one of the better rage heads. Penetration and durability on these heads aren’t the best but like you stated, the blades are so close to the point. I’ve shot these heads and it’s been crazy blood trails. Used the same broad head on 3 deers. Just sharpened the blades and the retention mechanism still worked. Not a bad broadhead overall
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that experience.
@greekmaster10012 ай бұрын
Liking your video before they even start means something
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
:) Thank you
@garrettschienschang78982 ай бұрын
It’s because he is consistent enough to always give good reviews
@chickimac12 ай бұрын
Love watching your broadhead testing. Really helps when deciding on a new broadhead to try. Just picked up a Swat X1 myself. Neat little crossbow
@2daysoffproductions8872 ай бұрын
Same
@jeffreyfred48172 ай бұрын
That’s what I’m saying
@tripplebeards342717 күн бұрын
Thanks for the review. Rage sent 2 packs of the NC to replace the red collar version that didn’t open at 400 fps. I figured I’d try them this year. The chisel tips are super dull. I figure they might push the hide in a ways before poking a hole and cause a bigger entry hole….hopefully. I was pleased to find out they hit in the same POA as my Nap TI 2 bladers. Tried the Nap last year. They worked ok but not like I expected them to like the old Rocky Mountain gators from yesteryear.
@tripplebeards342717 күн бұрын
Forgot to mention I only had one blade open in my block target on entry and both opened in my target vs the red collars wouldn’t open and completely pass through my target and deer for that matter. So hopefully the NC version opens on entry “on deer”.
@tripplebeards342717 күн бұрын
Well, I couldn’t help myself and had to sharpen the tips on these. They were as dull as butter knives with burrs so big I could see them. Don’t know how they got past quality control like they were. Stoned each edge a few dozen times. The tips now feel sharp and grab on my finger when lightly brushing across them. No where near razor sharp but the tips would actually cut something now instead of poking through with the blunt tip.
@LuskArcheryAdventures16 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing that experience.
@tripplebeards342715 күн бұрын
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I ended up sharpening the tips. They were so dull they drove me nuts. Nice and sharp now. Hopefully I didn't jinx myself and they dont zipper as wide of a hole because the tips will cut easier and not "push" into the hide (with the dull tip) before they start cutting.
@kenraterink2 ай бұрын
I had one open mid way on an elk..cork skrew in after that and missed. I prefer the collared versions, but switched to completely different head after that
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that experience.
@matthewhomesley52302 ай бұрын
They are who we thought they were, little tougher than I thought it would be though actually.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Yeah, me too. The ferrule was strong; but there are blades that are much stronger on some other heads.
@randyferreira52652 ай бұрын
I have used the regular hypodermic and just like the no collar the blades are the weak point.Penetration is also not great but not terrible either.Great test John once again!
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience, Randy.
@Wackmaster69-c4p2 ай бұрын
Would love to see the new g5 t2 perform in your testing. Love all your videos and time n effort you put in. Thanks john!!
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thank you. I posted that vid about 3 weeks ago.
@garrettschienschang78982 ай бұрын
My dad shoots a new tenpoint and loves these. I shot a trad bow and wouldn’t even consider it.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Yeah, they flew great.
@palumbo7815 күн бұрын
I’ll be bow hunting with a Barnett 405 stalker for the first time. Out of these 100 grain rage hypodermics NC or the Swacker 100 grain for this crossbow? I’d appreciate your feedback 🙏🏻 great video!!
@LuskArcheryAdventures14 күн бұрын
They would both work. Personally, I prefer a Sevr. But either of those others will likely get the job done.
@diegodeluna43642 ай бұрын
I watch every video no matter what. These are for some reason entertaining and maybe I see something that will switch from SEVR 1.75. I doubt it though 😂
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
:) Thanks for that encouragement
@Kai240i2 ай бұрын
I remember the Drury brothers used to use and sponsored by rage(maybe they still do) and was all they bragged about. Yet I watched their DVDs and non would get a pass through lol. Rage stand for big entry, no exit and no wound channel.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment.
@wesr14902 ай бұрын
Have to admit the durability was better than I expected. But is that necessarily a good thing with a blade still breaking? I'd never shoot a rage at a deer though after all the horror stories I've heard.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Yeah, it did better than I thought. But there are mechanicals that hold up to the steel much better. And that penetrate much more effectively.
@kylepietschmann22832 ай бұрын
As soon as you showed that the blades don’t lock open, I was thinking that the resistance against the small tabs couldn’t be as great as the resistance of the blades themselves. Lo and behold, they don’t stay open all the way in gel. Seems like an obvious design flaw for a long-lived company. They need to either lock open or operate like Schwacker where they cannot fold shut while moving forward.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Yeah, it will make a big entrance hole for sure...and penetrate well because the blades may contract like that. Then when they hit the hide on the other side of the animal which is taught, they reopen...if they get that far.
@AnthonyJones-p9n2 ай бұрын
Love the video not the broadhead
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
:)
@AnthonyJones-p9n2 ай бұрын
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I was wondering if you could do a video annihilator xl single bevel 100 gr
@HSeaward32 ай бұрын
Mechanicals like this are so tempting, but after so many failure to deploys I’ve learned my lesson and will be sticking with the QAD exodus
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Yeah, fixed blades have their strengths…and mechs have theirs.
@Jmanp9202 ай бұрын
I stopped using these after penetration issues on whitetails. I was only shooting 64# at the time so it's most likely on me for using a mechanical all together. They prob work real well for those shooting upwards of 70#. I have had buddies who had deployment issues though
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that experience
@Chasintail112 ай бұрын
This! People will screw these on their 380 grain arrow and shoot them out of their 50lb bow and complain about penetration. I wouldn’t use any 2” mechanical if I was shooting under 70.
@simonsilvagno49002 ай бұрын
You must have gotten a good pack. I bought some a couple years ago and they were butter knife dull.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
That's disappointing.
@quintonmartin55072 ай бұрын
I have watched them get stopped by a shoulder blade, and the blades closing on exit is common. Went away from them for those reasons.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that experience
@progradepainting37552 ай бұрын
I don’t no about this version, but I’ve definitely had a similar experience with the older iteration of this head.
@michaelpoplawski32462 ай бұрын
I was surprised to see the point hold up in the concrete block, but it is troubling that the blades did not stay open in the gel. There are better options available.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment.
@Ratt-ln3mk2 ай бұрын
So the real question is what happens after they pass thru hide ? Do they close up, i know the gel puts resistant on the blades but what about tissues ?
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Yeah, in softer mediums I fear they will close. They’d mostly open on hide and make good holes-unless they hit a super soft spot in the hide.
@Ratt-ln3mk2 ай бұрын
@@LuskArcheryAdventures yep I concur.
@rickyanke94072 ай бұрын
After two failure to open on two different bucks, I decided never again. Fixed blade only and zero regrets.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that experience.
@carltrano13252 ай бұрын
This is why the rage will never find a place in my quiver ever again. I am for ever a fixed blade man. If I ever for whatever reason had to use a mechanical broadhead, it would be a sevr.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Yeah…the penetration and blade strength are issues I wish they’d fix.
@ThirdLawPair2 ай бұрын
These are great for crossbows where penetration is not a limiting factor. Don't think i would use them for a compound.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that
@KTMsoldier19882 ай бұрын
Hoping you can get your hands on some of the all stainless steel afflictor hybrids.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
I tested those several years ago. They didn’t perform any better than the aluminum ferrules honestly.
@KTMsoldier19882 ай бұрын
@@LuskArcheryAdventures the mechanical version?
@craigjones37832 ай бұрын
Please test the NAP killzone maxx, i know youve done the killzone but ive had a ton of luck with the killzone maxx
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
I should do that in the future.
@michaelzernzach5319Ай бұрын
they are a one and done broadhead. I've have blades break off inside my target.
@LuskArcheryAdventuresАй бұрын
Yeah, durability is their biggest liability.
@brycekearns2072 ай бұрын
One of my favorite heads
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that.
@jolookstothestars63582 ай бұрын
I was really surprised by the sharpness.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Yeah that was impressive
@frankbrowning3282 ай бұрын
Nice that they were able to eliminate the shock collar. However, the penetration is very poor and it's blades don't lock in place when open and are thin enough to be damaged easily. It's a good selling broadhead but in my opinion it's not one of the better broadheads.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that.
@RG-ut7fu2 ай бұрын
How did these score higher than the gravediggers? I’m not sure I understand in side by side comparison.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
I don’t remember the scoring of the Gravediggers. All the test scores are in the video descriptions.
@judefuselier2 ай бұрын
Whoa Nelly!!!
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
:)
@keegan_mcwethy2 ай бұрын
I have a genuine question. Why would someone chose the rage over a sevr, beast, shwacker, or even the Deadmeat?
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
That’s a fair question to ask.
@keegan_mcwethy2 ай бұрын
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I’m not trying to be negative or condescending at all I’m just very curious as to the reason to chose rage with so many great 2 blade mechanical heads on the market. I personally shoot the G5 Deadmeat and after watching your video on the Sevr Ti hybrids I picked up some of those to add to the quiver for my hunts this year.
@nickyPayne882 ай бұрын
I’ll be honest John, your testing with this head and the +p NCs scare me. My field results with these heads were amazing. Insane, almost comical blood trails and fast recovery. Never had a bad experience with a rage head. My primary head is the standard v2 deadmeat, got a lot of rage heads begging to to ride the quiver too tho haha. Despite the non deployment in the gel, I’ll have a rage or 2 with me this year.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that experience. It scored in the 80s…which is good. The blades opened on impact, but closed in the gel. That’s rare. But that only cost them a point. The ferrule is very strong. The blades were very sharp and it flew fantastic. The penetration in cardboard and the blade strength is just quite a bit less than several other mechs. But again, they got a “B” if you will; they did well. But they didn’t get an “A” for good reason.
@fairviewman39242 ай бұрын
I must be the unluckiest guy in the world. I took 4-5 deer with the Rage that had the normal "holy crap" fire hose blood trail. Then I took a hard quartering away shot on a nice buck and had the blade open prematurely with no penetration, arrow dangling, no blood trail. Then I had a Rage open up in flight and literally bounce off the chest of a forkhorn buck. Lastly I had a very big 9 pointer under me, facing away, at 4 yards. I was using a very adult 600 grain aluminum arrow, and hit him between the shoulder blades. Just about drove him to the ground and off he went. Found the arrow 20 yards later. Both blades broke off, inch and a half of penetration, no recovery. Loved the good blood trails when I got them, but couldn't accept the failures on shots where I did everything right. Been on the fixed blade train since and not going back.
@therealdilloutdoors6162 ай бұрын
This head has blades that are designed to fail. In other words, the scallops in the bottom of the blade are made to allow the blade to bend backwards intentionally if they encounter hard bone. Unfortunately, this doesn't score well in your test, however, in Hunting I would rather a blade bend back allowing continued penetration.. Not my favorite head, but it did exactly what it was designed to do in your test
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Yep. And it only got docked one point out of 100 for bending back a little. The poor penetration in cardboard and blades breaking in the 22 ga steel plate cost it more. It still scored in the 80…like a “B”.
@JimSmith-o1o4 күн бұрын
Used them for years...no problems...u gotta pic your shot
@extremesam92 ай бұрын
Had one open mid flight. Never using them again!!!
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
I hear that every now and then. Thanks for sharing that experience.
@UserFormelyKnownAs_hjkh9 күн бұрын
Not trying to be a jerk by asking this but how would you know that?
@kenbaker26892 ай бұрын
I want to see the excalibur trailblazer 150gr
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thank you. I’ve already filled up my quota of heads to test this year, but maybe next year.
@edwardberns13412 ай бұрын
Only did good in sharpness and I was very surprised on that. At least they have 1 good things going for it. Well I guess flight as well so 2 things. Rage has stepped up their game
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Yeah, they flew well; they did better than I thought.
@rockybass98642 ай бұрын
John if they only made one broadhead for you to pick for deer and hog what would be your choice
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Sevr Hybrid or 1.75 and Exodus.
@tripplebeards342710 күн бұрын
The more I watch this, the more I think they need to make their blades at least 2 to 3 times thicker and then they would have one heck of a broad head.
@LuskArcheryAdventures9 күн бұрын
Yep. I’ve long thought that if they invested 50% of their marketing budget into better blades, they’d have an amazing broadhead.
@155michaelx2 ай бұрын
i would like to try that on a turkey hunt
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Would be a good turkey head.
@melvinsacromentoe2 ай бұрын
Probably works fine but there are other two blades out there with better designs
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Yep.
@ParkerToural25 күн бұрын
I can tell how to find out if you should shoot rage broadheads. Buy the same head tested in this video, and use your fingers to bend the blade… i can almost snap it off.
@LuskArcheryAdventures22 күн бұрын
:)
@rwmack35232 ай бұрын
Blew through a doe shoulder joint last year at 31 yards, full expansion, great blood trail and bo problems here.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Good to hear that. That’s how it did in the MDF as well.
@DarylShepler2 ай бұрын
I’m all FCC or test. Ass long as not out crossgun
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Well, I only use the crossbow for flight…and it’s at 300 fps, which is compound bow speed. It allows me to minimize human error in the test so the true flight due to the broadhead can be tested.
@Crayz9192 ай бұрын
They are highly & overly marketed but that's why they've killed and wounded more deer than any other Broadhead due to research ... STR8FACTS !
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Fair comment.
@frankspataro97142 ай бұрын
I dont like the no collar rages but man have i killed alot of deer and turkey with the 125 extremes was my favorite for a long time switched th the g2 mega meat now they both ride in the quiver but man the mega meat is wicked good on game
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that experience
@natet.58132 ай бұрын
Who else came to watch another Rage head get destroyed? 😂
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Haha. They did better than I thought.
@d123avek12 ай бұрын
New Rage head test. Well, this comment section should soon be fun 😂🤺🥷
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
:)
@josephr11982 ай бұрын
Rages get a lot of hate, but it did pretty well.
@zzz7zzz92 ай бұрын
It closed on the gel. How is that good?
@josephr11982 ай бұрын
@@zzz7zzz9 I don't know how you came up with that being good, sounds like a you problem. I certainly never said such things.
@zzz7zzz92 ай бұрын
@@josephr1198 you said it did pretty well. Good is another term to describe pretty well. It did not perform 'pretty well'.
@josephr11982 ай бұрын
@zzz7zzz9 you shouldn't assume what mean, you do not know me. I meant good, j would have said good. I did not, so I did not say good.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Yeah. They have some great strengths and some weaknesses. Overall they scored in the 80s, which is like getting a B
@tobpitbull2 ай бұрын
These have put more game down that perhaps any other broads made.
@SlimPickins_072 ай бұрын
Gotta be a joke right?
@tobpitbull2 ай бұрын
@@SlimPickins_07 gotta be a joke? Drury brothers and all their staff, Lee & Tiffany, Tim wells, Tom Miranda, the list goes on … not kidding. Dudley as well with nock on…rage is the leaders, others have just perfected from them which is great one being G5, here in the mid west, Ohio, Ky, in, are deer are big… rages will put them down
@shootdeer96622 ай бұрын
@@tobpitbull Do you realize that there are people who are not on tv who shoot deer too? The people you listed shoot rage because they are paid to; not because they are good heads.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Yeah, they spend more than 90 % on marketing…and they did fairly well; just not as good as some other mechs.
@vfonte2182 ай бұрын
Just because some big name people use them don't mean they killed more deer than other heads. Muzzy, nap, wasp...etc.
@W_and_K_Archery2 ай бұрын
Mechanical 2 blade heads that do not lock open generally do not fair well in your mdf/gel test. They initally make good cuts in the foam but are then forced closed once hitting the gel (I know you have also mentioned that in the past and wish you wouldve in this one for the new folks just finding your videos). That model rage has done well for us personally and those we have set up with it. After the intial “slap cut” on an animal, we have not heard of nor seen one close back up through penetration. Well we have heard folks say it never opened but yet never recovered the animal nor the arrow so those claims are hypothetical bs lol.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that experience.
@allenr66872 ай бұрын
The hyprodermic +ps were the best rage built in my opinion. Shame they were discontinued
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience.
@ericwolbert32562 ай бұрын
What today’s choices of broadheads I cannot understand why anybody whatever you such a thing
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
:)
@HucksDad082 ай бұрын
These cost me a nice buck with a placed shot. Lack of penetration through upper rib cage. Also have seen ferrule break hitting buck scapula (so much for the titanium ones)… garbage
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that experience.
@evansnipes74732 ай бұрын
Rage=Trash
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
They did better than I thought they would.
@jerrywelch13702 ай бұрын
If these were made from S7 tool steel, single bevel & were 150grs, with .60 blades; they would be pretty hard to beat - LISTEN UP ,,, RAGE manufacturer........
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Yeah, other mechs have figured out how to be much stronger.
@austinphillips99662 ай бұрын
Keep trolling
@vfonte2182 ай бұрын
Hard pass for me.
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@jeradlene17322 ай бұрын
On all the deer I've shot with these no failures no broken blades and massive holes on both sides all these tests people do and have poor results. on deer they will leave massive holes and they dont go far cant go by these tests people do they are not realistic
@allannesss77822 ай бұрын
Are you new here ?
@colbykinney56332 ай бұрын
He does apples to apples comparison on broadheads. It's purposely set up to test strength and weaknesses of the heads.
@brownitsdown2 ай бұрын
@@allannesss7782 he owns you boy
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that experience. They scored fairly well; in the 80s. I’d say people’s experiences are similar-about 80% are pleased and 20% not pleased.
@danielcrow1012 ай бұрын
Junk!!
@LuskArcheryAdventures2 ай бұрын
They did fairly good. It’s just not as good as some other mechs.
@woodsmanfarms9678Ай бұрын
All Mechanicals are bad, every single one. Maybe beast could be acceptable, but they all are unethical and cause pour penetration compared to a fixed blade. In 10 years 3-5 deer with a bow a year, i had one arrow stay in a deer. If you think you need a mechanical to bow hunt deer your sadly mistaking and just need get out there and practice more and get better.