Raiden Vs Armstrong

[@MikeAbundo1]

Political debates would be so much more entertaining if they involved battle cyborgs fighting atop a giant robot.

[@Technical0Difficulty]

+Mike Abundo I would actually follow politics then!

[@muhdjeffry9345]

Mike Abundo /xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[@WeegeeSlayer123]

Mike Abundo Then everyone would actually vote.

[@flying_Night_slasher]

Then watch this kzbin.info/www/bejne/paHRhWitlLl7aLs

[@Leadblast]

Until you remember you cannot respawn or continue irl

[@scottforsythe37]

My theory is that the nanomachines only give him durability, and that's it. His strength is natural, and Texans in MGS are just Like That™️

[@Breakaway-ic5gj]

I believe it

[@openlink9958]

technically yes, it is possible for a person to have that strength, but our bones and skin would tear apart first since they are not designed to take that load

[@shioniiluxion6457]

@@openlink9958 which is why he has the nanomachines, it's perfect

[@theone-tg4ey]

It's cannon

[@valoredramack9117]

9:08 @Scott Forsythe It's easy to grow up big when you're not born poor and starving. That Texan's "natural strength" is nothing more than a product of an easy life that was handed to him. He didn't even deny the fact that he didn't grow up having to survive.

[@icebankmiceelf7950]

Love how at 8:00 Armstrong just seems so excited and goes to help a potential homie out

[@ClockworkGearhead]

Every. Vote. Counts. lmao

[@renren47618]

It's wholesome how he says "through" lol

[@JaggedBird]

That part still makes me laugh all these years later

[@paralysisconstrained]

yeah lmaooo

[@oy1290]

"Standing here I realise"

[@LadyCandy1]

Girlfriend: Don't talk to my dad about politics Boyfriend: Okay Boyfriend and dad after the third drink:

[@PlahaKumar]

That's got to be the most intense political argument ever.

[@RazzTheTwistedName]

"Try University of Texas. Coulda gone pro if I hadn't impregnate someone." "I think I'll pass."

[@ConfusinglySadFace]

"I have a dream" 💀

[@Elli-kc2yh]

My brother vs my uncle

[@millaz26]

I could break you in two with my BARE hands!

[@valterfara5027]

Say what you want, but the creators were having fun making this.

[@hyperlegendultra5983]

Valter Fara. you felt it too, right

[@asylumskp4391]

@RaozSkillz Elaborate?

[@irrelevanttroll3312]

@RaozSkillz If you are gonna say a game's shit even though you didn't even play it, researched it and i know damn well you are using the logic as an excuse

[@unusualfearlesss7591]

@RaozSkillz is this a troll?

[@mikaru9342]

@@hyperlegendultra5983 haha you mean Kojima

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Literally the only game where there's like 15 separate memes in just one boss fight, that's legendary status right there.

[@cat-bq5ln]

Yea

[@anikinskywalker7481]

Yep

[@The_Man_Who_Sold_the_World.]

How's just some guy with a mustache?

[@scattershotjd9823]

Well, they are the DNA of the soul.

[@Zandyneer]

Even more hilarious is the fact of the year in which this video game came out

[@polinttalu7102]

I'm more impressed with how durable Armstrong's glasses are

[@vladimirmakarov7475]

NANOMACHINES SON

[@Dastardly_Duo]

@@vladimirmakarov7475 LENSCRAFTERS, SON

[@kevinsmith6903]

Underrated comment

[@yoann5573]

Do not forget the shirt and tie 😂

[@asylumskp4391]

Glasses are durable as all hell, especially if they're high quality. I think I dropped mine like 10 times and it's only bent like a few millimeters.

[@mhelm0225]

Armstrong: "Fuck the media and bureaucracy." Everyone: "You know what, this guy isn't so bad after all."

[@marhawkman303]

heheeh, yeah he has good points.... questionable goals, but solid motives.

[@PraiseTheLordyourGodJesus]

Ephesians‬ ‭6:10‭-‬18 says, Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints. The bible is no old book. You have to really let Christ open your eyes; to see the world in shambles. Many people say it's a religion to lock up people in chains, and say it's a rule book.. why? Because people hate hearing the truth, it hurts their flesh, it's hurts their pride, it's exposes on what things have they done..people love this world so much, s*x, money, power, women, supercars.. things of this world. Still trying to find something that can fill that emptiness in your heart. You can't find that in this world.. only in Christ, the bible is no chains, it's a chainbreaker. Breaking your sins into pieces... Repent now, and turn back to the true Lord only.. God bless. ❤

[@JuanThaSilva]

You know he believes in a darwinism society.

[@Cool-Vest]

Nah, I don't f with anarchists. Can't trust 'em. And I'm not a fan of "The weak will be purged, the strongest will thrive." Although the theme of It has to be this Way is that, despite our differences in ideology, we can find some common ground.

[@Dubaikiwi]

Yeah, that's called 'Populism'. And just like when Trump says 'fuck the media', Armstrong is also a hypocritical bastard

[@felipedias427]

3:13 I love it when Raiden opens a tiny smile after realizing he managed to dodge and keep his chin intact for once Just to have it wiped on the floor two seconds afterwars

[@judgement_kazzy68]

lmao that makes me crack up, he also notices that his chin turns orange and grasps his broken sword with anger after the fact.

[@enyceiceberg]

Learn his lesson from JetStream Sam 👍🏽😎💙

[@88keysperfeel1ng9]

Shit i never noticed that i always thought he was like wtf hod did he break my sword what will i do now. I ve seen this too many times and would never noticed it

[@DynTravi]

@@88keysperfeel1ng9 I'm in the same boat. I've seen this scene countless times and never noticed.

[@кошимперия]

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[@danieldaw1778]

Lmao, I love how quickly he turns around, stands Raiden up and brushes him off when he thinks Raiden is on his side.

[@Goodbye_Crow]

Daniel Daw lmao right 😂

[@csarheras5587]

@??7991¿¿ no The same thing with liberals...They love blacks, women and gays but the moment they turn conservatives they are ruthless again them...

[@Username-wj8pz]

@??7991¿¿ no what would you say is your political affiliation, since you dislike both conservative and liberals?

[@soundtrack4328]

@BernieEinreb371 mans really was a darwinist not even close to conservative man held barely any religious values for what I could see and wanted america to progress

[@soundtrack4328]

@BernieEinreb371 Darwinist are off compass lib-right

[@Our_Remedy]

8:00 I love how he's immediately like 'Oh shit sorry I beat you up, let me help you up, clean you a bit.' just immediately sees him as a friend and respects him.

[@vodago]

I think he already respected him

[@urbainleverrier1]

Makes Raiden's betrayal more hurtful

[@quakeev334]

and then he's murdered afterwards, having the upper hand the whole fight for nothing..

[@RsRj-qd2cg]

Because Jack put up such a good fight, Armstrong could definitely see him as a powerful ally if he could convince him to switch sides. But Jack's resolve is just as strong as Armstrong's.

[@ChrisE-iy7ok]

can someone explain to me how raiden struggled as hell in this fight with his sword but then suddenly from nowhere beat the shit out of armstrong unnarmed like nothing after his sword had broken, makes the sword look pretty bad does it not?

[@personthehuman.]

Politic talk while fighting is peak gaming

[@stevencontreras84]

"KEEP POLITICS OUT OF MUH GAMES!!!!"

[@nobody-yk2hu]

​@@stevencontreras84this game gets politics right

[@stevencontreras84]

@@nobody-yk2hu That means nothing.

[@user-mc4pg8cp7q]

Shut up lgbt​@@stevencontreras84

[@PraiseTheLordyourGodJesus]

Ephesians‬ ‭6:10‭-‬18 says, Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints. The bible is no old book. You have to really let Christ open your eyes; to see the world in shambles. Many people say it's a religion to lock up people in chains, and say it's a rule book.. why? Because people hate hearing the truth, it hurts their flesh, it's hurts their pride, it's exposes on what things have they done..people love this world so much, s*x, money, power, women, supercars.. things of this world. Still trying to find something that can fill that emptiness in your heart. You can't find that in this world.. only in Christ, the bible is no chains, it's a chainbreaker. Breaking your sins into pieces... Repent now, and turn back to the true Lord only.. God bless.

[@bruzh6359]

Normal antagonist: "I wanted revenge... I have trained for years..." Armstrong: "Played college-ball, you know?"

[@Kazam100]

senator ballstrong

[@legiwpan9568]

@@Kazam100 senator deez nuts in yo mouth

[@ronterzi2540]

TRY UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS

[@W1nt3erWasHere]

​@@Kazam100real

[@ultrazonomega970]

@@Kazam100 Strong balls, huh? noice

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

Me: "Why the heck is a American senator doing a sumo move as his entrance?" *remembers that my favorite MGS game is MGS3 and that has a Russian general doing a Japanese proverb as his catchphrase for no apparent reason* Me: "You know what? Never mind."

[@l3ftie578]

nintendo b like

[@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961]

What was the proverb?

[@treacherousjslither6920]

@@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961 Kuwabara kuwabara

[@code066funkinbird3]

Nice

[@Oscarus4250]

@@treacherousjslither6920 And what does that mean?

[@Gemsverse]

1:48 I love how there’s a Crowd cheering for Armstrong out of nowhere XD

[@101trus]

I’d like to think that’s in Armstrong’s head just like he’s used to having people cheer for him playing college football or at his political rallies

[@saitama6204]

Lol

[@jetsilverseas5540]

He’s the epitome of american

[@angelic_disappointment7889]

Well that kick was definitely worthy of applause

[@awesomegaymer5786]

Reminds me of bowling alley screens when you get a strike

[@SaxyKnight]

It’s amazing how Raiden and Armstrong’s political discussion is more civil and respectful than any modern debate right now.

[@ultrapro8937]

I'd happily have Armstrong as the US's president.

[@mhscalculus2463]

@@ultrapro8937same here he’s a good meme man

[@ericv00]

It's also more strongly based in logic, reason, and principles. It really wish we had Armstrong and Raiden as the two candidates in the presidential race right now.

[@lucky6961]

they actually respect each other's talk without interrupting, which is surprising with the amount of hands and raiden being thrown

[@Kburn1985]

​@@ericv00it won't be a debate, they'd just fight on top of a giant mech, and pontificate their personal philosophy during ad breaks. It'll be awesome.

[@abrahamvanhelsing6723]

I like how happy Armstrong was when he thought Raiden agreed with him.

[@sergiogonzales330]

Funny because Raiden ends up agreeing with him anyway.

[@greywalker505]

Then he finishes his sentence, and the guy actually looks hurt. I’d feel bad if he wasn’t backing a company training kids’ brains to be soldiers.

[@kejiri3593]

@@greywalker505 Shocked face!!!

[@dabreadman9677]

Honestly, I wouldn't dare wipe such a smile off his face

[@orangesoda4535]

Radical action is often accompanied by a need for confirmation from others; and no confirmation is greater than that which comes from an enemy.

[@nexus8463]

Jack in cutscenes: on the verge of death Jack in actual fights: God mode

[@jrezecordero7943]

except on armstrong

[@sulphurous2656]

The inverse is true if you're playing on Revengeance difficulty, since he can game over you in a single hit.

[@godly__moonlord]

So in the verge of death, you could also say he also is... Close to it's last breath

[@phucanhjose9693]

666 likes wow

[@Bigmellow_]

Other way around g

[@Happycide]

I think probably the most impressive thing about Armstrong is how he's able to keep his glasses on for this entire fight without them flying off or being broken.

[@eren34558]

I think it's also cool that we have a final boss who keeps his glasses on during the whole fight

[@DrewCross]

Lens Crafters don't fuck around

[@glitchxedfix134]

@@DrewCross lenses made of fucking vibranium

[@Marcos-tk1sf]

It's a matter of style, either you have it or you don't.

[@assassinshadow2800]

"nano machine, son"

[@xinny4190]

Alternate ending: When Raiden and Armstrong hug each other, game ends and credits roll.

[@doodlehates_uttp]

Opinion: Accepted Argument: Dissolved Friendship: Made

[@wessmoore7894]

Alternate-alternate ending: Credits begin to roll and the screen fades to black on the hug, then you hear the “You’re batshit insane!” line, the video comes back on and the game continues as normal.

[@Radowid_V_Srogi]

Alternat Alternate-Alternate: after Raide Quote he says "nah just kidding bro" @@wessmoore7894

[@originalvox2530]

Alternate-alternate-alternate ending: Armstrong agreed that he was wrong, becoming friend with Raiden and going in bar with him.

[@tomjefferson8829]

Post-credit scene is them compromising where they want to, acknowledging the strengths of each other's arguments while agreeing to drop the parts that don't work, and ushering in a genuine golden age.

[@dashlambda6707]

I sincerely hope that technology progresses to the point where one person in biomechanical armor can punch another person in biomechanical armor so hard that the airliner-sized piece of machinery under him explodes and leaves a crater, but neither of them are harmed. That would be great.

[@hecodheadsrus]

Id cyrogenically freeze just for that.

[@themaverick7514]

thecodheadsrus 101 cryogenic freezing kills you

[@mouradait1838]

Dash Lambda Nanotechnology son !

[@ronaldmcdonald1501]

If technology dose reach to that point I'd say it would most likely be in 2030. I'm not sure tbh it's a cool concept however if anyone had powers like the senator we'd possibly be in serious danger. I'm the type of person who trys to make games have a little bit of realism so I played on revengeance mode because that's how it would be in reality one hit and you're dead, not to mention that you won't have self repair units. Plus in one of the Codec the doctor says that just because you're a cyborg it does not automatically give you the ability to pull off all those moves. I know this is just a video game but I'm trying to see how it would really work in reality.

[@stephenb3104]

It would still fuckin hurt though

[@bigmyke2008]

They actually put in a crowd cheering sound effect when he kicked a Raiden field goal. Best game of all time

[@altaccount4825]

you can tell the guys over at Konami were having fun when comming up with this

[@sausage6136]

@@altaccount4825the dialogue says it all lmao

[@emma6648]

I’d let him stomp on me like that anyday, yummy yummy

[@fuelsfornerds]

i didnt notice that it was a field goal sound effect 😭i shouldve known even after completing this game long back the only reason they would have that sound effect was because they talked about football

[@TenshinhanIsKing]

Best game of all time because of some cheering SFX? 🤨

[@TheRiku57]

The ONLY time where showing the main villain 20 minutes before the end WORKS.

[@horminmangfi5653]

It works well in video games, especially, I think

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

Yeah, games like this did well with that, but games like Undertale did very bad

[@horminmangfi5653]

@Jethus: the forgotten brother of jesus , because unlike other story media, we follow majorly one character's perspective at all times. You can't shift from antagonist to protagonist in view, in most games. Yeah, cutscenes exist, but most people play a game to play a game So, if you don't want to let the main villain keep meeting the MC, you can pull of something like this

[@M.J44]

@@AzumarillConGafasBv Ionno, we get a LOTTA buildup to asgore. It worked fine for me.

[@Bongbongo]

@@AzumarillConGafasBv wdym? There was a lot of buildup for Asriel lol. You literally meet him at the start of the game.

[@thepandasamurai228]

I come to see this every 4th of July 🇺🇸

[@ScottAndrew]

🎆

[@doodlehates_uttp]

I'm not even American

[@TerryHege]

Then we don’t need to know

[@blehkyin5655]

So how many times have you watch this?

[@thepandasamurai228]

@@blehkyin5655 last month marked my 6th year, so I’ve watched this video 6 times now.

[@heactuallyexists]

10:36 Raiden literally let him fix his glasses first before continuing to barrage Armstrong, what a gentleman

[@magicahegao1046]

in quanto qualcuno che vuole diventare un gentiluomo assumo che devo saper prendere a pugni la mia donna per essere bravo come lui

[@uncannypepethefrog9269]

@@magicahegao1046 do you play amongus

[@LegendaryITA]

@@magicahegao1046 Concordo.

[@NNYYLL]

It's literally like a lazy saturday boxing match for Armstrong tho

[@k1ngdan23]

Standing here I realized

[@tankhead2645]

> appears in 1 cutscene and is mentioned in 1 codec call. > brought up at the end of the game after killing sundowner, the guy who murdered the president > makes a bunch of iconic lines, some of which being ahead of their time > makes an actual point while still being a villain > becomes more well known than the protagonist, raiden > becomes the perfect final boss for the end of the MG timeline > refuses to elaborate further > senator grindset

[@punishediskala7314]

no I doubt he's more well known then raiden

[@JooblesMcgee]

@@punishediskala7314 who is raiden

[@IshijimaKairo]

@@JooblesMcgee Jack Raiden from Metal Gear

[@temp4743]

Didn’t even know dudes name was jack lol

[@karlwikman3874]

So this really was The final chapter in the timeline ?

[@taxinvasion260]

The way Armstrong reacts when raiden calls him bat-shit insane will never not make me smile.

[@thegiantrat4271]

Armstrong: >:O

[@yulianti3895]

Dude i was laugh nonstop cause Raiden call you bat shit insane

[@rahadianaryo5979]

@@yulianti3895 08:37 Raiden says it, Yuli! He's finally *SAID IT* though...😆🤣!!

[@rahadianaryo5979]

@@yulianti3895 10:12, 10:19 "Alright then, and this is where the fun *BEGINS HERE* ...👊💥!!"

[@kurukuru4120]

And then raiden just screams while performing a throw.

[@enomisv9830]

8:00 Armstrong is very reasonable all things considered. When he thought Raiden agreed with him he helped him up, brushed him off, even let him lean against him when he thought Raiden was losing his balance. He has a dominating personality, but with Sam and Raiden, he gave them the chance to join him. He's not so stubborn as to ignore talent and skills.

[@albertogt3935]

Amrstrong is socialist

[@Archedgar]

@@albertogt3935 Literally the opposite of a socialist aka a libertarian.

[@RoccoColandrea]

@@Archedgaryou gotta be losing your mind if you think those are the same thing 💀💀💀

[@Archedgar]

@@RoccoColandrea I said LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE. Reading comprehension is not a crime.

[@Cuiasodo]

I love how "nanomachines, son!" is both a meme and an extremely accurate explanation for like 90% of the weird superpowers people have in this series.

[@remnantofthefirstworld2930]

Except for when it's weird parasites and psychic powers. And that one dude who's literally just dead.

[@alienpl107]

@@remnantofthefirstworld2930 who?

[@remnantofthefirstworld2930]

@@alienpl107 The Sorrow from MGS3

[@KoB978]

They do a lot but they can’t fix that hairline

[@nickjaxon1317]

​@@KoB978 and eye sight

[@akorn9943]

I still can’t get over how this game focuses so much on the different armor and modifications the characters have to make them strong, and the whole time Senator Armstrong is stomping on Jack, he’s doing it *in goddam dress shoes.*

[@averageinternettroll]

Nanomachines, son. They're all I need to beat you

[@morphoose]

@@averageinternettroll that is the answer i expected when i opened replies, thanks

[@Muffinmurdurer]

And Jack's doing it in heels. We sure this ain't prom night?

[@Unknown_Anomaly]

@@Muffinmurdurer ACHTUALY THEYRE CALLED STELLETOS- just kidding I don't care. He can run in em

[@Breakaway-ic5gj]

@@Muffinmurdurer Average males dancing on prom night

[@mewhenthewhenthethewhen]

I feel happiness when Armstrong thought he convinced raiden but feel sad when he just got juked

[@horminmangfi5653]

Lol

[@Delicashilous]

That's how you doing an Villian. Good reason, overpowerd, and you actually feel for him, in some way of course.

[@Xx_TH_GHT_WK_xX]

same bro he got trolled

[@DropkickSuplex]

It's fine, he played college ball

[@Angushrothgar]

I like that as soon as he thinks that raiden is coming around he is gentle and respectful, Kinda shows that he isnt just blindly monologueing and trying to kill, hes actually trying to make a point.

[@Emacoration]

15:34 "And Besides... This *isnt* my Sword." i fucking love that line, so badass

[@Evilraptorus]

Its a fucking mistake

[@DemoniteBL]

Definitely one of the coolest lines in all of video games.

[@Eeethefirst]

Legendary game Legendary main character Legendary boss Legendary animations Legendary overall

[@Angelik_]

And Legendary masterpiece ✨

[@Eeethefirst]

@@Angelik_ w opinion

[@jeremiahoneal4288]

And memes

[@Chickenworm9394]

Yeah. Legendary memes

[@chadius_moai_]

@@Angelik_ you have summoned me I’ll tell you a fact Senator is better than all the American presidents

[@Shipx7]

8:20 This shows how awesome Armstrong is. As crazy as he is and as wrong as his ideals are he respects strength above all else. At the slightest hint that Raiden might understand and agree with him he tries to welcome him over to his side, picking him up and shaking his hand. I wish we could see more of Senator Armstrong.

[@lumberluc]

Like he said "I'm not one of those beltway pansies!"

[@romonemorrison1150]

Exactly, I respect him as a character

[@calebstephens6059]

And he actually tries to get shit done

[@Grandmaster-Kush]

His ideology was right for the world of MGR, that is after the patriot AI the world is being consumed by war, in entertainment, everyday life and no one knows what they are fighting for except personal profit, and behind it all is an AI trying to steer humanity in its direction. The reason Raiden killed Armstrong is due to the sick immoral things he did, using and harvesting children, trampling on the innocent, and as he adopts Armstrongs ideology with his own principles of protecting the weak he becomes "Jack The Ripper" and we never got MGR 2 so F

[@Jake-uv4sl]

@@lumberluc who would they be?

[@dugonman8360]

The greatest form of hand to hand combat ever made by mankind: college football.

[@Bloodletter8]

Meh, probably at some cushy ivy-league school

[@damiencaez1983]

@@Bloodletter8 try university of Texas

[@plotarmor8017]

@@damiencaez1983 you could've gone pro if you hadn't joined the Navy

[@Ale93371]

@@plotarmor8017 Not one of those beltway pansies.

[@plotarmor8017]

@@Ale93371 You could break the president in two. With your bare hands?

[@Mudafukka404]

Masochism, son. We harden in response to physical trauma. Please hurt me, Jack.

[@emblemblade9245]

You can’t kinkshame me Jack

[@ryze9153]

Murica, son. We harden in response to all forms of trauma. You can't out patriot me Jack.

[@roidblitzed]

😂 too good

[@redcarp9867]

I like how as Raiden or Armstrong gain an upper hand in their debate. They gain the lead in the physical battle. It gives their arguments more weight and more engaging to watch.

[@Neyreyan]

They even use the headbut motif wich is one of the great elements with hidden meaning in the matrix

[@кошимперия]

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[@fateburn]

this is just how shonen battles are tbh

[@Scotty-tl3jj]

Political unrest simulator

[@xynic]

He played collage ball yknow?

[@M.J44]

I like how Armstrong has aspects of being a sympathetic villain. Not EVERYTHING he's saying is wrong, but it's too idealistic to be true, and his methods are very polluted. Also I love how this is such a satisfying interpretation of ridding of a politician you dislike.

[@M.J44]

@RARAYAYA RAA Did you not read my comment? My point is that he's clearly yearning for a better America...but that his methodology is completely nonsense.

[@M.J44]

@RARAYAYA RAA It can also be applied to every sympathetic villian ever written, so...not exactly disproving me

[@M.J44]

@RARAYAYA RAA *facepalm* Because he clearly cares about his country & the people in it. However, his ideas are corrupt and therefore he's still a villain.

[@M.J44]

@RARAYAYA RAA Puttin' words in my mouth chief. Full stop, please fuckin' find something better to do.

[@bulkinggod3872]

@RARAYAYA RAA I think armstrong is diffrent cuz he was simply nieve. In his vision everybody is perfectly honorable and strives for honest improvment when in reality a lot of people are trecherous shits like raiden. Its quite intelligent writing if you ask me. You can see that when he bests raiden he picks him up only to be attacked by someone he though he made peace with. He compliments his rise from poverty when In reality he probably stabbed a lot of people in the back to get in front of the senitor from his birth, whom foolishly thinks he got there by the sweat of his brow. Armstrong only mistake was overestimating humans cuz quite frankly if everyone was like him in that regrard the world would easily function within his ideals with minimal problems but at the end of the day 80% of us are just arrogant animals that talk and refuse to truly think.

[@siema5710]

1:01 running in raiden 3:12 jaw slide 8:05 handshake 8:56 making the mother... 9:56 punching armstrong 11:03 nanomachines son

[@asampes]

you forgot when he looks under his legs after raiden throws him after they shake hands at 8:49

[@enragederic2472]

@@scenel-9066 your not the only one who thinks the the nanomachines look like buso hakis

[@welp5981]

3:08 I love how his chin being unscathed sounded so triumphant, ignoring that his sword was literally just broken with Armstrong's bare hands, and is about to get punched HARD.

[@ultrahappy6859]

@@enragederic2472 so u arent the one to think that he thinks that he only this its haki

[@roadabroad]

@JmatteoCG21 -Come on! -Okay. *Lets dance!*

[@nisnast]

Senator Armstrong continues to prove that people will agree and follow you if you just speak with enough conviction. That's why politics are fucked nowadays, people react way too much to emotion.

[@Meatball996]

Honestly. And the amount of people in the comments saying he's right too after he admitted to wanting to purge the weak. Even when presented as obvious bad guys people believe the guy who can shout the loudest and piss the furthest

[@ilyarepin7750]

he didnt say he is gonna purge the weak he said he wants people to be free to pursue their ideals and the strongest ideals will win which means if a lot of people want to make a nice safe country and nourish the weak into strong they can assert their ideals with strength. He wants man to return to his natural state and start anew to purge the rot and decay of society he sees as irredeemable. Its not a bad take at all, and properly implemented would certainly make America a much better place on the other side.

[@Meatball996]

@@ilyarepin7750 he quite literally said purge the weak

[@amspook]

@@ilyarepin7750 "Making the mother of all omelettes Jack, can't fret over every egg" That line alone implies that he's willing to throw anyone and anything on the mold so that it fits whatever the heck he is making

[@wafflehouse5289]

Honestly tho, without the whole “purge the weak”, he has some good points. It’s just that he’s bat-shit insane

[@bigshow5941]

8:00 The fact that Armstrong genuinely wants Jack to understand him is kind of heartwarming.

[@rummkacak]

Man said 🙂

[@outrider8569]

Well in the end Jack did

[@crofoegbu6535]

​@@rummkacakit actually is 😅

[@rummkacak]

⁠@@crofoegbu6535no no, armstrong’s impression in 8:08

[@Kisemo]

I mean, Armstrong has a point… I’d support him. Great sales pitch

[@Manly-Tears]

8:28 The look of sheer joy in Armstrong's face makes me wanna hug him.

[@sergiogonzales330]

If I were American I would vote form him

[@The_D_ray]

Finally, thank you. I thought I was alone thinking so.

[@santiagosantanaruge7928]

@@sergiogonzales330 you're bat-shit insane!

[@louisliu5317]

@@santiagosantanaruge7928 And then he pog

[@ZikriDanial]

He's bad sh*t INSANE!!! 😂

[@Sean-Johnson]

Now, for those who don’t quite understand, let me explain: Armstrong wishes to end war as a business and create a Social Darwinist utopia, where all the citizens of America fight their own battles and the strong survive while the weak perish. From a certain point of view, his arguments actually do make sense, and considering America, and by extension the world, were until recently controlled by the whims of the Patriot AI, it’s not hard to see where he’s coming from. For what it’s worth, he very much despises the Patriots; in fact, Armstrong is ideologically quite similar to fellow Patriot-hating politician George Sears, AKA Solidus Snake, who coincidentally Raiden also fought. Hell, much like Solidus, Armstrong also has some connection to the creation of child soldiers. Of course, it needs to be noted that while Armstrong definitely makes a good case, he is also a bonafide anti-villain. For those who need clarification, TVTropes describes an anti-villain as “a character with heroic goals, personality traits, and/or virtues who is ultimately villainous. Their desired ends are mostly good, but their means of getting there are evil. Alternatively, their desired ends are evil, but on a personal level they are far more ethical or moral than most villains and they thus use fairly benign means to achieve it, and can be heroic on occasion. They could also be someone or something whose desired ends or means are not necessarily ‘evil’ at all, but their actions simply conflict with that of whoever seems to be the protagonist.” While he does have good intentions and seems to genuinely want to better his country, the fact he resorts to terrorist actions, child soldiers, and ridiculous levels of violence makes him clearly the bad guy. At the end of the day, good intentions just don’t justify bad methods.

[@somerandommenace]

I appreciate the effort you put into that. You get a like

[@losercat1447]

And the fact that people are still talking about mgr until this day even 8 fucking years has passed and counting makes it one of the best games of all time. Also as silly and cringy some of the lines are, they're actually really deep and that's what i think makes this game a MASTERPIECE.

[@TheCompleteMental]

His vision of the world also just doesnt work, though his criticism of war as a business is valid. It's not just the means, but the goal is also ethically and logically wrong.

[@oRealAlieNo]

So basically thanos.

[@HonestFarmerLigue1Fan]

@@oRealAlieNo MCU Thanos. Comic Thanos is just a cuckold who got butthurt and abused his power, one often too many.

[@PiccoloJunior2013]

1:02 The Hell are you thinking! Raaarrgh 1:48 Aaaaah! Don’t fuck with this Senator 3:00 “Nice knife” 5:32 “Fuck this 24/7 internet spew of trivia and celebrity bullshit” 5:49 “Fuck all of it” 9:00 Making the mother of all omelettes here, jack 15:08 Damn Mutt! 15:12 Quinton Flynn: Armstrong!! Kenyu Horiuchi: Steven!!

[@mrdanfi4285]

i love that raiden at the beginning is so genuintely confused why the senator who apparently has no cyber enhancements wants to fight him head on

[@iaminsideyourwalls2021]

It wasn't until later did Raiden realise why Armstrong hasn't died yet

[@proxymaster5451]

Armstrong literally absorbed energy from his machine 10 seconds before raiden said that. How can he think that Armstrong had no cybernetic enhancements?

[@mrdanfi4285]

@@proxymaster5451 maybe i understood it wrong but they discused in the codec calls that they didnt know about his cyber enhancements. but i think raiden noticed when he was sucking up the energy, but was still confused rightfully so. imagine seeing the us senator making a weird pose and then sucking up the energy of a giant robot and raming into you lol

[@proxymaster5451]

@@mrdanfi4285I never looked into it from that perspective. Nice catch

[@TheFirstCurse1]

@@proxymaster5451 That's where the developers messed up REALLY BAD. Imagine how much more impactful and amazing this whole fight would have been if Armstrong hadn't done his stupid absorption thing? Raiden, and by extension you the player, would be so caught off guard.

[@respiratoryfailure3780]

11:42 I find it hilarious how it seemed like he sent Raiden flying to the stratosphere only to show us that he just landed 3 steps away from Armstrong.

[@broba3799]

Nah he did but Armstrong has learned to teleport like Jason Voorhees.

[@Vandarte_translator]

@@broba3799 It makes sense. After all, Armstrong is full of nanomachines, son.

[@MattyBudzzz]

You know whats funny. Someone whos never played any of the MGS games, clicking on this random video in my feed and seeing exactly what im seeing right now. This is insane, I thought this was a mod part way through, this is the funniest shit I think ive ever seen, this game is absurd lol

[@SirBarkingtonEsquire240]

It’s even more funny that jack landed in the opposite direction of where he was punched

[@Darkandroid213]

Actually, Armstrong was so fast that he teleported where Raiden landed and then kept on beating him up.

[@Vondad2004]

This game deserves a remaster AND a sequel!!

[@PARAMOUNTPHLOPYNATOR]

I agree

[@suprisebuttsecksspy5958]

Metal gear rising its already perfect. All we need are just sequel.

[@pitysquid]

It needs a switch port

[@thelel6591]

i love how people still ask for this to this day. cmon they could make huge money!

[@pustulio81]

Nah, they already gave us two games starring Kojima's ultimate brain-fart "Pretty Boy Raiden" and that's three games too many.

[@uranfromdis]

All these years later, and Armstrong's message hits EXTREMELY hard. Everyday the words becomes more and more true.

[@TheAlmightyLoli]

Best part of this whole fight is that Armstrong barely gets any buildup before it. You only just find out he's involved maybe a level or two before the end. But he shows up and steals the scene so fucking hard that he becomes the greatest in less than an hour.

[@malum1424]

Holy shit didn't expect to find you here

[@wisuslara1199]

Amén 🙏

[@ravnemagne9598]

Like, the actual buildup throughout the game is the confrontation with Sam, which was badass and memorable, but then Armstrong basically just makes the Spy "Gentlemen" and instantly becomes one of the greatest final bosses of all time

[@alejandroc7357]

@Alvi Syahri yeah it's totally unexpected. Thats what makes it badass. Then you end up fighting him in the pit while he throws giant robot parts at you.

[@JcoleMc]

@@alejandroc7357 If he can do that then why does he need the giant robot for ?

[@ShaeaGT]

"Try University of Texas" THIS MAN IS MY HERO

[@louiekim824]

You went to University of Texas?

[@Djnahuelito145HD]

Did you could have go pro?

[@creamdeluxe8740]

Could you have gone pro if you hadn’t joined the navy?

[@Masaaee]

Im not one of beltway pansies

[@faded_ink3545]

Should I not fuck with you, senator?

[@hydrasalesman9629]

Armstrong's reaction to Jack calling him insane will never fail to make me laugh

[@lies9927]

You are called JACK THE RIPPER, and I am insane? really?

[@dante75310]

Dont know why when jack called him insane it hurted me, it was like a betrayal

[@Spacebugg]

h u h?

[@Double_D__]

*"NANI?"*

[@binglecheese123]

He literally said : “😧”

[@박정환-v9v]

1:02 i can't stop laughing 😂😂😂😂😂

[@joao2479]

"My sword is a tool of justice, not used in anger, not used for vengeance, but this isn't my sword" such an underrated line holy shit

[@gen_edits]

Based Raiden

[@KorinIta]

It’s a fucking mistake

[@Classyboo123]

@@KorinIta you beat me to it!!

[@capperbuns]

Damn, so he gon' use the sword for me then?

[@Kirealta]

That's cringe jack.

[@juanjerez1609]

Armstrong literally shows up during the last bit of the game, completely steals the show, and is the sole reason this game is still remembered almost a decade later. THAT'S god tier character design, dialogue, and voice acting right there

[@dhdhjeje1501]

John 3:16 for God so loved the world he gave his only begotten son that whoever believe in him shall not perish but may have eternal life

[@MoreDevy]

Jetstream sam:😑

[@bruh-bn3ni]

typical american

[@rhettorical]

The game took me eight hours to beat... except for the Armstrong fight, which no bullshit took me another seven hours. I somehow never realized that I could dodge, or that I could alter my angle in blade mode.

[@TheFirstCurse1]

Get the hell out of here. He's not the sole reason AT ALL. He's a big reason, but the opening level, Monsoon, Jetstream Sam, Sundownder, Bladewolf, and Raiden himself, along with the games amazing music and themes of ideals and self awareness, are what makes this game memorable. Saying that it's all Armstrong both disrespects everything else this great game has and singles you out for not understanding how amazing it truly is.

[@glasspencil]

"Played college ball, ya know." What position do you think he played? 0:20 O-Line? 1:02 Running Back? 1:43 Quarterback? 1:48 Punter/Kicker? 5:08 D-Line? 14:56 Wide Receiver? 14:58 Eh, probably not 7:41 Coach? 6:05 Linebacker? 7:06 Vontaze Burfict?

[@S0RGEx]

Armstrong played every position on the field at the same time, he's just that much of an absolute unit of a man.

[@universalcadia64]

If his skills converts to the NFL level, anyone who drafts him, either the offense or the defense/secondary might as well be pumped full of nanomachines.

[@RAIDINGFRIDGES]

THIS IS FUCKING GOLD😂😂

[@brandont5264]

I love this comment.

[@notamobilesprout4175]

With a build like that, probably running back or linebacker

[@jeshonloonskin4176]

Ok, I know this comment section is mostly about Armstrong memes, but can I just say that the animation on the nanomachines hardening is amazing looking.

[@lemuelbecc]

8:16 The hope in his eyes, in his smile, in this moment he really believed he could make his dream of a better world become reality.

[@nevergiveu.up101]

yoo much like and no comment??!

[@Someonelol723]

​@@nevergiveu.up101 ikr

[@charlescourtwright2229]

unfortunately, that world would be pure anarchy

[@Flamelance_Accendo]

@8:57 And Raiden smiles at how stupid Armstrong looked lol

[@kapparomeo]

Armstrong actually isn't very good at persuading people. Like he said himself, "I don't write my own speeches". In the Sam DLC he just assumed that Sam would go along with him - reaching out his hand which Sam can't shake back because his has just been smashed - and barrelled on without consideration. He doesn't sell the principles, he just dominates and intimidates weaker-willed people through sheer force of personality. Armstrong just seems so inordinately, childishly delighted that someone actually agreed with him for once and he didn't have to batter something into shape like so many other times - dusting Raiden down, the eager grin, the quick energetic nod - you can tell this is a rare treat for him.

[@NickTheRedFox]

These 16 minutes are more cinematic worthy than many action films out there now. This is why this scene is so memorable.

[@xxmlgguyxx1167]

Well. It is Mr. Hideo Kojima1's work after all.. His reputation precedes to Death Stranding

[@lvbboi9]

@@xxmlgguyxx1167 I can't tell if this is an insult or a compliment to DS lol

[@nickmann3908]

This scene is memorable cuz it's a living meme, fucking insane and hilarious. Complete lack of taste and sanity and big budget, it's like the room of fight scenes.

[@Blackmorerainbowcatch]

🤓

[@Totally_Normal_AE-86]

His face very similar to Anies Baswedan

[@rto4988]

You gotta admit that the game still looks good even when it's older than the average mental age of a twitter user

[@IknowRight-yb8rd]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/raXFlJSNo96VsNU .,..,.,

[@Anonymous-73]

True

[@kujakubes241]

Most games from 2008 still hold up today graphically (ex. Sonic Unleashed and this)

[@jeixs]

The execution of this comment is formidable

[@memeskeyoch3375]

average mental age of a twitter user is like five

[@BlazeFiresoul]

Mind you, this game was for the PS3.

[@mekingtiger9095]

Games have barely changed since the end of the PS3 generation. Most non-indie games nowadays are just PS3 games running on better hardware, so to speak.

[@garcialyndon1134]

​@@mekingtiger9095 I feel like MGR5 is better than most present games

[@lucky6961]

@@garcialyndon1134 games became too focused on graphics, consequently mechanics are put in second. And trying to do both is complicated, cyberpunk tryed to inovate and have insane graphics, look at how that turned out

[@Ayyfren]

Explains the high quantity of cutscenes

[@novideoscorp]

senator is very kind, he hugged his enemy

[@LovesickJo]

But then his enemy used that as a way to throw him across the entire metal gear

[@alexht.9382]

Shame he had to die. I kinda liked that guy.

[@Bostonterrierslol]

Then kicks him like a football

[@hybrid9791]

He even brushed him off

[@nobilesnovushomo58]

Spared him too. That was his last mistake.

[@RogersBase]

Armstrong has armament haki confirmed.

[@mohammedbakry1785]

xD he should be a yonku

[@hatchhyjack]

lmao yeah and he's able to resist raiden's rokougan with it 10:50

[@shittynameblahblah2991]

Don't know what that is... But he's pretty much trump.

[@facundomelian4420]

+RogersBase NANO MACHINES SON

[@fahamedi]

HAKI SON

[@Sarged117]

2:12 “Objective Defeat Armstrong” Never have three words understated the difficulty of an objective in the history of the world.

[@Ice_type]

objective: survive

[@nobodywatchesnooby]

@@Ice_type this one does it in only two words lol

[@vittorioarioli9127]

Current Objective: Survive

[@mikaelhyttinen5750]

Nice pfp

[@Sarged117]

@@mikaelhyttinen5750 Yours is very nice as well 🖐

[@ORENONAMAEMITE]

3:00 "Stop that blade!" Rules of nature!

[@BustNutyear]

Can't nanomachines fix hairlines? Like, god damn. Armstrong's forehead is bigger than his biceps.

[@jacksonholder2987]

ROFL

[@hecodheadsrus]

The giant square forehead and hairline is what makes armstrong great

[@ZSwierczynski]

Just look at Vegeta muscle mass to his forehead. Same logic.

[@VaciliNikoMavich]

Bust Nutyear Can't fret over every egg~

[@pauldouglas8689]

Massive foreheads = genetic dominace 😧

[@TyrannosaurusChexmix]

I think my favorite part of this whole exchange is when Raiden challenges Armstrong's worldview. "You weren't born poor! You've never been hungry! You don't know what it's like to fight, and steal, and kill _just to survive!"_ And I think my favorite part of this is that Armstrong _doesn't_ refute this! He refuses to victimize himself to "beat" Raiden's childhood upbringing and pretend that he's struggled. He fully understands the difference between Raiden's life and his own, as well as his own rich upbringing. And then, as a counter-argument, shows _respect_ for Raiden's strength. "But you *did* survive!" He acknowledges that Raiden did have it worse, and that he's a super badass _because_ of it. And _because_ he struggled and fought and killed his whole life, he deserved to lead the life that he did, thus "proving" Armstrong's original argument to be righteous. Through sheer force of will, by following his own set of rules. With Raiden's own two hands, he became the man that he is. Solid fucking character, dude. Love Armstrong.

[@jimshotfirst4887]

And at the same time it further highlights the flaw in Armstrong's logic, which is that Raiden _didn't_ survive and get to where he was just through sheer force of will. He was just another starving street rat in Liberia until he happened to get taken in by Solidus Snake and trained to be the unstoppable killer he is now, with the eventual help of his cyborg body that was forced on him by the Patriots. That's not to say that surviving all of that didn't require an immense force of will. It definitely did. But Raiden very much didn't take back his life with nothing but his own two hands. If Raiden hadn't been lucky(?) enough to get randomly picked by Solidus to be America's Next Top Child Soldier, then it wouldn't have mattered how strong his will was, the only life ahead of him would have been that of a starving street rat in Liberia. Sheer force of will means nothing if you don't have the means to act on it. Raiden understands this, but Armstrong, who has gone his entire life without ever lacking those means to do as he pleases, doesn't. Or maybe he does understand, but he just doesn't care because he's a megalomaniac who wants to bend everyone else to his will. It depends on how genuine you think he's being in his "everyone will be free to fight their own wars" speech. (edit: grammar and formatting)

[@jimshotfirst4887]

Just to clarify btw, I also fucking love Armstrong, he's one of my favorite villains to ever exist in a video game, in no small part because of how insanely charismatic he is. Solid fucking character indeed.

[@kingkunta3753]

@@jimshotfirst4887 nah, any other regular joe schmoe would’ve been in the dirt by now if they had to live even one week of radians life, from child soldier to now, external factors don’t erase the sheer force of will that he has, with all that happened in his life he survived and continues to survive, proving Armstrong’s philosophy

[@jimshotfirst4887]

@@kingkunta3753 hey, point to the part where I said that he could have survived without his insane force of will. Trick question, you can't, because I didn't say that, in fact I said the opposite. The point that both you and Armstrong missed is that force of will wasn't what got Raiden out of the streets of Liberia. Solidus Snake was what got him out of the streets of Liberia and set him on the path to what he is now. Yes, Raiden's absolutely insane force of will was 100% necessary for surviving that path, and no normal human being could have done the same. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together can figure that out. But force of will wasn't what trained him to be a child soldier. Force of will didn't give him his cyborg body. No matter how much force of will he had, Raiden never would have risen beyond his life as a street rat if a greater power hadn't plucked him out of it and dropped him into the hellscape of war. He never would have become a super powerful cyborg if a greater power hadn't decided to use him as a lab rat. Force of will was what gave Raiden the strength to seize the opportunities he was given, but it was not the *source* of those opportunities. _That's_ where Armstrong is wrong.

[@kingkunta3753]

@@jimshotfirst4887 im not saying you didn't say that, i even used the exact wording im just pointing it out again. but this is what im getting at, you kinda miss the part where he still had to survive being a CHILD SOLDIER, a life of constant bloodshed, and eventually becoming a lab rat cyborg, armstrong or raidan for that matter weren't just talking about isolated times, its life in general! greater powers and external factors don't erase that for me, but you may have a fundamentally different view of it all

[@itsbosco1025]

This game was just too ahead of it's time, only after 9 years later do people realize that this game is legendary

[@madmannn9576]

shut up. ppl knew this game was good 9 years ago. just because you weren't old enough to be apart of that when this came out.

[@Weiss_Fudder]

standing here i realize...🎶

[@Emiya491]

@@Weiss_Fudder you were just like me, trying to make history

[@oddmeatgang]

@@Emiya491 but who's to judge the right from wrong

[@Crimzon_Nova]

@@oddmeatgang neither you or me nor any individual with even the smallest hint of selfish bone in them.

[@freezingfield2517]

After all these years, he is coming back in America Showa 😂

[@pedzad9528]

5:33 This line aged so well

[@MrProg-ey3tl]

Well it was just as true then as it is now XD

[@juanarredondo9763]

and shall remain as true as in the future

[@soar_dfuzr7514]

@@juanarredondo9763 and it must be stopped

[@salsamancer]

This was basically the thesis of Mgs2 as well

[@bestdadoftheyear7181]

@@soar_dfuzr7514 Fuck,ALL OF IT!

[@gukeoke6312]

8:37 Armstrong's genuine shock is golden

[@rahadianaryo5979]

Raiden 🗡🤖: "You're *b@t-$h1t 1n$@n£!* "

[@rahadianaryo5979]

08:40 Senator Steven Armstrong 💪😎: 😧

[@VenusTheMorningStar5]

😅⃤...Bet you don't have this emoji 😅⃤....

[@WHY-JUST-WHY]

he makes Ken's face from the bee movie from that meme template

[@yonkou4806]

Bro made a Minecraft villager sound

[@mettatonex7221]

This man's body is like if you maxed out all the sliders in character creation.

[@iambran]

My favorite part of this entire thing is how Armstrong never calls in reinforcements or tries to escape at the last minute; he stands his ground against Raiden for the entire fight and almost literally doesn’t give an inch of ground, further solidifying his philosophy of fighting for nothing except your own ideals in order to change the world

[@puppergump4117]

Although I think it's dumb. As admirable as it is to have someone like Leonidas holding back hundreds of thousands of enemies, he should have had more help to begin with to stop the Persian invasion. Society is not governed or changed by a single person, and should not be enforced by a single person.

[@barbussyasschandler]

I mean look at Armstrong he doesn't need help when he is just build different

[@somedude9316]

@@puppergump4117 Leonidas too was betrayed, which is why he didn't have the troops he needed to counter the Persians, iirc.

[@puppergump4117]

@@somedude9316 Yeah, he was only supposed to delay for a bit for the Spartan council to get their heads together. But he got cut off and couldn't retreat.

[@puffpuffpassmako]

One detail I LOVE is Armstrong adjusts his glasses constantly. Its a cool detail that is ignored so much. Most game protagonists or villains don't have glasses cause it isn't practical. I like the representation here. Really shows that even if you have poor eyesight, you can still be a badass

[@muqri.2745]

That's what you will get when you have Japanese developers.

[@mettawatkutaninwat5411]

I mean, Gordon Freeman wears glasses too and he’s a total badass.

[@jayhollowayii2]

He stole that from otocon lol 😂

[@saniel2748]

> Really shows that even if you have poor eyesight, you can still be a badass Imagine being so insecure that you write this kind of stupid shit

[@oh.2598]

That must be why he lost, he lost his glasses

[@AinsleyHarriott1]

"They'll make America great again!"

[@Drirock55]

Ainsley Harriott sound familiar?

[@almightygobhoblin]

... donald trump... hes now president

[@Drirock55]

Storm Catman yep oh well gonna have to deal with it

[@almightygobhoblin]

yup

[@moon_7567]

"How the hell did you get elected..."

[@ramzymilano4237]

Senator steven armstrong ❌ President anies armstrong ✅

[@Ethan_crx345]

Bahaya 🗿🥶

[@Evesdropper]

mas anies mas anies

[@ramzymilano4237]

​@@Evesdropper prabowo prabowo

[@ieusbdwasgu4641]

I love how heartbroken Armstrong looked when raided called him “bat-shit insane”

[@__-ic7si]

hilarious but sad.

[@Scaredmask]

Armstrong rn: *D :*

[@averagecheeseenjoyer382]

Hes just like >:0

[@entropyascending515]

@@__-ic7si the way he instantly snaps his head then thrown

[@tarekcat1]

He was like >:C

[@ZirahPastel]

I love how Armstrong is literally evil Mr. Incredible

[@SeaFR]

>fought for what they believed in >broke laws doing so >caused huge amounts of damage >beefy as hell >criticized by their enemies >have abilities that help withstand and give damage >have interacted with huge robots with long arms While all the similarities are there, personally, I believe that Armstrong's character in general is leaning more towards Syndrome's way of thinking.

[@trusivraj7777]

@@SeaFR lets not forget the big black ball he comes out of

[@rahadianaryo5979]

@@trusivraj7777 Yeah baby. And the Metal Gear Excelsus is basically a flarkin' *Omnidroid* 🤖 though...😏

[@m4lev0lentdem0nknightamv5]

He looks like the dad of a girl

[@theapexsurvivor9538]

@@m4lev0lentdem0nknightamv5 Why won't you let me date your daughter?! GPA, son.

[@oldomen3788]

I think this Armstrong was actually quite a cool politician.... Maybe our politicians should have fist fights with each other

[@2wongsdontmakearice588]

ummm no...

[@oldomen3788]

哦,它只是旮旯。簡單樸素的旮旯 Well sure... He is pretty extreme, think about., wouldn't you as a politician want to fight other politicians in the face to win wars. THE NEW UFpC (Ultimate Fighting political Champion) Eh.... I liked Armstrong, I really liked him and did not want to kill him but at the same time, I wanted to beat him in that game. He was a really cool villain for me.

[@Cyberium]

Well, there's Jessie Ventura, and fiction wise we have Mike Haggar and Armstrong.

[@oldomen3788]

Cyberium But... Would you like to see people like the leader of china in a fist fight with the leader of Britain, the leader of Nigeria fight the leader of Spain. The leader of USA with the leader Germany. Etc.

[@Cyberium]

Some fights would be unfair due to age and/or size differences, but we would at least know who'd pay the sacrifice for his/her nation.

[@icyliu1.4]

Love how majority of people actually agrees that Armstrong may be a boss, but he isn't a villain.

[@mannnyald3310]

He kicks him like a football and there's a crowd cheering lmao I always loved that part

[@allaboutsboyzz4737]

More kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWmZo6KqpbWIZ7M

[@mannnyald3310]

@@allaboutsboyzz4737 y tho

[@angelic_disappointment7889]

He played college ball y’know

[@JP-rf8rr]

Never played this game, but I like this exchange. I can actually appreciate some of the principles Armstrong holds, although I disagree with his conclusion. Plus him helping raiden up and dusting him off was a nice touch.

[@billylukito5522]

He is politician with set of Ideal,not cartoon villain. thats plus point from this game character writing.

[@joseaca1010]

@@billylukito5522 the guy literally took orphans, scooped their brains outs and plugged them into a simulation of what raiden experienced to turn them into killing machines too, he is a cartoon villain

[@joseaca1010]

The problem is everything he did before the exchange paints him as a psychopath, the exchange itself only makes him look delusional or in Raiden's words, bat-shit insane, and a huge hypocrite too, he wants to get rid of the weak when hes never experienced true hardship, he subjects others to this hardship believing its for the best, and when raiden points this out, he points at raiden saying hes the living example that his beliefs are correct, yet its clear if given the change raiden wouldve prefered a normal life, this is perhaps also the reason why armstrong finds acceptable to abduct third world children, take their brains outs, and plug them into VR simulations of everything raiden experienced as a child in order to turn them into cyborg killing machines like raiden

[@dugonman8360]

I love the fact that hes made into such a cartoony stereotypical rightwing politician you couls almost call him a propaganda piece (down to the balding hair and ciger) and then when you hear him talk and actually articulate his worldview it makes a lot of sense.

[@dugonman8360]

@@joseaca1010 its a theme with MSG villians that they're almost tragic villians who have noble goals yet evil actions. Solidus wanted to free america from the patriots, didnt mean he should land a giant battleship in new york. The boss was a covert agent but she still allowed a nuke strike on russian soil. Armstrongs roughly the same.

[@morbidantares1939]

Im just imagining armstrong saying are you winning son

[@PARAMOUNTPHLOPYNATOR]

My god that works

[@Scotty-tl3jj]

Perfect father body, mindset… mabye not

[@L0rdTonk]

3:08 broke his mewing streak absolutely despicable

[@Poke183]

10:10 The moment you’ve all been waiting for!

[@dnkakusei]

STANDING HERE, I REALIZE

[@roniwewo1192]

YOU WERE JUST LIKE ME, TRYING TO MAKE HISTORY

[@NeoEidolon]

BUT WHO’S TO JUDGE RIGHT FROM WRONG?

[@dnkakusei]

@@NeoEidolon WHEN OUR GUARD IS DOWN, I THINK WE'LL BOTH AGREE

[@NeoEidolon]

@@dnkakusei THAT VIOLENCE BREEDS VIOLENCE

[@nobodynobody7729]

I've never played this game before, so after watching this scene without any context whatsoever, I can confidently say that the US Nano-politician is definitely the good guy main protagonist of every MetalGearSolid game, and he has my vote.

[@christianlorrain877]

I mean he did enslave children to become killing machines (literally, putting their brains into incredibly strong mechanical bodies) and manufactured a war and a coup just to get elected to make America more anarchist but pop off I guess.

[@theultimatehomiegsenior3058]

@@christianlorrain877 isn't making children killing machines just warframe

[@jimshotfirst4887]

@@theultimatehomiegsenior3058 and NGE, and Ender's game, and a lot of other media too. Oh, and real life. Child soldiers aren't a new idea lmao

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

@@jimshotfirst4887 so hes just another human then

[@jimshotfirst4887]

@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 sure, I guess

[@XFanmarX]

8:06 I just love this part. It looks so goofy, with Armstrong's surprise and him dusting off Raiden as if he just fell off his bike or something. But though being a bit goofy, it was a heartfelt moment for Armstrong who thought he finally convinced someone of his (insane) ideals. Great scene.

[@Gabriel-all]

Insane? Batshit insane

[@thecatdragon589]

nah, hes dustibg him off like he *is* the bike.

[@stickplistick3643]

@@Gabriel-all part of what he said is true, but there are some insane things there

[@stickplistick3643]

@@Gabriel-all no I know, but I’m saying

[@yeaokay8476]

@@stickplistick3643 Raiden just plot armor loser, crying n nagging. Armstrong made valid true points. And till the end Raiden still works for others n not himself

[@Spartanoffaith]

I like what this really boils down to is: Raiden cannot associate or feel empathy for anyone that isn't like him, and the entire game is him learning empathy. 1.) Raiden was poor, a tool his entire life, and barely knew who he is. Armstrong was rich, a natural leader, and extremely educated. 2.) Raiden cannot equivocate that someone that separate from him could ever want the same thing, understand him, or want him to understand them, they don't hold the same view they can't be the same. Armstrong WANTS Raiden to understand him, and thinks he understands Raiden, he wants to understand Raiden, and he wants to work together. 3.) Raiden only thinks about the "weak" which in reality means "weaker than me" and nothing of them beyond an excuse to be used for violence. Armstrong wants people to all be strong so that there are no weak people. Break the cycle of violence by forcing civility through power, an armed society is a polite society. He's willing to sacrifice the weakest to make the whole stronger. Raiden refuses to see this as anything beyond soulless predation. All the bosses follow this theme with Armstrong being the biggest separation. All the others he could empathize with because they were child soldiers or as damaged as he was, because Armstrong was never forced to suffer, he assumed he could hold no compassion. The song nails it home too. They were just trying to make history.

[@PantherIsa]

Your argument is very interesting! People find it easy to misinterpret this game. The weak and strong is not about poor or rich. He denies this by praising that Raiden fought with his own hands and got to where he is despite all the difficulties, that is BEING STRONG. Sam gives the definition of weak in the DLC while talking to Steven in the elevator. Thinking he was just another one who sends soldiers to fire while he stays in the office. In the end, he gets there and there is Steven himself, in which Sam says he judged him wrongly. The weak is also defined in Steven's words before he dies, "people who fight for causes they don't believe in, for things they don't understand". I love the fact that people misunderstand based on Steven's way of speaking as well as his appearance. But what he means covers several facts about the Metal Gear games, especially MGS2 and MGS4. To understand the character ywe also have to understand a little about his creator, the screenwriter Etsu Tamari who made a big allusion to The Boss in this character (because he loves The Boss) and that's why he was the only one to come closer to The Boss's dream. The clues for this are in MGS3 and MGS Peacewalker. In the end, in the final song that belongs to Raiden, we realized that he understands Steven, but that there is no other way to end it other than having one last fight.

[@mr.voidout4739]

Raiden; one of the most batshit characters in all of fiction: "You've got to be kidding me."

[@deathripperfromhell7977]

HOW DARE YOU

[@maximussgrimm6319]

11:07 That part where Armstrong tears his shirt off and the nano machines spread across his chest…I can’t be the only one that thinks it’s all super satisfying to watch and listen. The sound of the rubber style crunching and the way it spreads across his chest, it’s just superb

[@wisekong6371]

Yeah

[@excitedmilk6046]

I felt uncomfortable tbh. Like imagine feeling blood pressure in your arm rising

[@traveel9409]

Nanomachines son!

[@CrnaStrela]

And he revealed the true Hp bar after that, infering the whole 100% you tried to shave off was just his shirt hp

[@Legacy0901]

The sound design for the cutscenes hold up extremely well considering how the game is almost 10 years old. The visual fidelity is also outstanding, the game looks realistic but it's also JUST cartoony enough to not fall into the uncanny valley

[@bloominjooj7541]

11:42 I love how Armstrong punches Raiden hard enough to send him flying into the stratosphere, just for the next shot to show him falling like 3m away from him

[@SaintEthanbaronNusjuro]

Armstrong is so powerful he realised he got a little too harsh against Raiden so he moved at light speed, caught Raiden and threw him on the floor close to himself. So fast we, the viewers, couldn't see.

[@patricktan624]

Doryah ⚡💪 EWGF

[@hiteshbehera5229]

He punched him so hard that he flew around the world and finally dropped in front of him

[@coldbluebrownie]

GAME DESIGN, SON!

[@waleedabdullahkhan5706]

​@@patricktan624I am not gonna sugarcoat it

[@LaymoSupraymo]

Watching this on Election Day goes hard, not gonna lie

[@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs]

What makes Armstrong such a great antagonist is that he geniuenly and fully believes he IS doing what is right. He's a man motivated by his dream and has the ambition to see it through. And that is all I will give him, because everything else is-as Raiden says- batshit insane.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

Yeah. You can genuinely believe something all you want, it still doesn’t make it justified. ISIS suicide bombers genuinely think they are going to paradise by doing what they do, doesn’t make it any less horrible.

[@Breakaway-ic5gj]

Armstrong is thanos confirmed

[@bruh_moment5100]

he was indeed right about people fighting for what they believe for, many young men get sent into wars, pointless ones, for the monetary gain of the government, by invading these countries they're doing the government's dirty work, they're sending fresh troops, right into a desert to fight people trying to get the invaders away from their country, they fight for freedom, something they believe in, but the young men in these pointless wars for oil when america can produce enough to hold its own is just bullshit

[@volmaaraldovahkiin5346]

That is the thing, yeah. It's so hard to hate him, even though he's insane, because he believes, really, in what he says. He's not wrong that the world is rotten to the core, but his vision for "saving" it is insane and deluded. But, he's being genuine with Raiden. It's so damn hard to hate someone who's being genuine, in a world full of liars.

[@jayhollowayii2]

Did you notice he used a trump line at the end -: make America great again I found that ironic lol 😝

[@qamo96]

The most amazing thing about this fight is how his glasses stay on and are completely unharmed 🤯

[@maksimoliukhov4865]

nanoglasses, son! oh my god, 18?! thanks!

[@ЧылгычыОндар-ю1о]

They do come off in the final phase though

[@user-lc5of7jh5g]

​@@ЧылгычыОндар-ю1оonly because he chooses to

[@gaelofariandel6747]

@@user-lc5of7jh5g Fitting, considering his speech.

[@SuperMerlot]

That shirt's fabric is also superstrong only him can tear it apart

[@megamanatee2351]

best scene in the game by far. It dances the line between genuinely badass and over-the-top cringe so well and I fucking love it.

[@exquisicy5429]

the lines are cringe but the game executes them perfectly

[@leonel392]

@@Camel_P_ox That is the cool thing about Metal Gear, they keep a balance between ridiculous shit and cool shit

[@matihaye]

@Austrian Painter bruh

[@Man_Aslume]

@Ghetto Dumbsville Making the mother of all societies Venom Kyle you can't fret over every degenerate

[@Schinshikss]

It's a perfectly cured extra large ham.

[@Haachamahusband]

Best motivational speech ever

[@pbsuite]

While kicking ass

[@Vespa-Due]

"What do you know about the weak? You weren't born poor. You've never been hungry. You don't know what it's like to fight and steal and kill just to survive..." " *_But you did survive!_* Through sheer force of will, following your own set of rules. With your own two hands, you took back your life!" Damn, Senator Armstrong took a good point from his enemy and turned against him by agreeing to disagree. A better political debate than any other else in recent years.

[@flintlol5166]

😭 ong

[@petricor1420]

SO TRUEEE THAT'S WHY ARMSTRONG IS THE BEST SUPERVILLAIN!!!!

[@emblemblade9245]

Of course, Raiden says after the Monsoon fight that he doesn’t want this for anyone but himself. Armstrong wants everyone to be like Raiden, and doesn’t have the first-hand experience to understand why Raiden doesn’t want that.

[@diccchocolate416]

​@@emblemblade9245it's kind of frustrating how many people miss the point of this game lol.

[@emperorpalpatine6239]

@@diccchocolate416 Media literacy is pretty bad nowadays

[@kavitator5083]

Armstrong: "I could crush you with just one fist!" *Punches Raiden*... ... *Raiden isn't crushed yet"

[@SidnerTheNiceGuy]

could is a keyword

[@kavitator5083]

are you still watching those chinese crtoons I know, just wanted to add some humor. I thought: "If he could do that, it means he's not even at 100 per cent... Dragon Ball fight and final form on the way!" XD

[@eon5428]

Kavitator he said, “could”.

[@Sinderance_]

*_Hmmmm._*

[@alexht.9382]

With just one fist, not one punch.

[@ShadowsK.Y]

"Fuck the media!" "Make America great again!" armstrong ahead of his time out here tbh

[@2006IZ]

Just cooler

[@vickfrankenstein]

Holy moly.

[@IndigoRyu]

Also not that annoying. Imagine playing MGR and getting a tweet from Armstrong every now and then.

[@TrueComboKing]

I knew I liked Armstrong for a reason

[@EyePatchGuy88]

@@IndigoRyu - Based?

[@NinjaMan47]

One aspect that really elevated this is how they pull a bait-and-switch with the Metal Gear and Armstrong's America #1 routine. Only for him to go "Lol, that was a lie" and pull a compete 180. He doesn't need the robot, he can pummel Raiden easily. He doesn't believe in America, he wants to burn it down! And despite Raiden tearing his organization to pieces he is 100% willing to just forgive Raiden instantly. So many people were mentally still trying to catch up to what they were watching and it was glorious.

[@jordanloux3883]

It wasn't exactly a lie. He believes that people do stand behind that America #1 idea... and he completely despises it and wants to destroy it.

[@Malzeno_9]

1:48 I NEVER REALIZED THERE WAS ACTUALLY CROWD CHEERING IN THIS PART, OH MY LORD THIS GAME IS TRULY A MASTERPIECE.

[@zakarycoldren]

Ty bc I would've never heard that 💀💀💀

[@Piece-Of-Time]

I thought it's the soundtrack