Anton Chigurh’s Evil Explored

[@BrandonStewartCS]

This man is me when there's no milk in the fridge and I want to drink some milk.

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

👀👀👀👀

[@malikdageek1501]

😂😂

[@zacharychambers674]

Homelander relax 😂

[@bennygerow]

I like your haircut slightly better.

[@nonnonbutlove1642]

Anton actually expresses anger/annoyance at the gas station owner. He even wanted to kill him for no other reason than he viewed him as a parasite.

[@hardboiledfrog]

This is what I remember. It seemed like very strong disgust, but I took it more as disgust that the old man settled for that lot. Didn't even build it himself like the father in law. Just stepped into it and kept going. Not so much that he was a parasite, but that he is just so awfully useless.

[@Disgustedsaturation]

Anton wanted to kill him because the old man spotted him back in Dallas and so he asked him questions like where do you close, or at what time do you go to bed

[@bennygerow]

Funniest part of the movie is the trailer home manager who tells him something about LE not being there, he presses her, and she responds with a really sassy remark. The look he gives her is so chilling, but that woman wasn't shook one bit, and he just leaves. 1:11:19 I interpreted the milk scene as him putting himself in LE's shoes to try and think about what he'd be doing, but I know that's a stretch.

[@sqectre]

When he kills the cartel members in the hotel, he steps through blood and it gets on his socks. It annoys him and he makes sure he gets no blood on him when he shoots the guy in the shower. You then see him take the bloody socks off with maybe a slight hint of disdain. Then he kills Carson and they very deliberately show him avoiding getting the blood on his shoes. Then he leaves Carla Jean and checks his boots. She ded.

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

100%

[@malikdageek1501]

I don't understand how the cartel were able to track the money

[@vickiTHESECRET]

@@malikdageek1501the man who came to help the mom with her bags was a part of the cartel. She was answering all his questions about where she was going and that is how they found him once the tracker was gone.

[@americanandpinay]

"I got here the same way the coin did." By fate, but here is your chance.

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

🤌

[@americanandpinay]

@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ What other villains do you have around?

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

@@americanandpinay joker and Lecter

[@janestarr79]

The angriest he gets is when Carla Jean wont call it

[@LandonH117]

This “Analyzing Evil” series is so cool! I’m sure we can expect episodes on Hans Landa, Health Ledger’s Joker, and Calvin Candie one day

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

Hell yeah!

[@damianstarks3338]

This guy is one of the most iconic villains in movie history.

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

One of the most factual statements ever made 👏🏻

[@damianstarks3338]

@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ 🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@roxstarz2288]

“You pick the one right tool”

[@bigboss4993]

I think he definitely killed the accountant because of how he smiles and asks him if he see's him similar to how he asks Carson "if the rule you followed brought you to this of what use was the rule" and also how they just cut away when someone dies near the end of the movie

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

Great point

[@olgaferdina3869]

Вопрос ,ты меня видел? На самом деле ответ на вопрос , ты меня убьешь? То что он убьет бухгалтера так же понятно, как и то, что бухгалтер его видел. А улыбка Чигура это улыбка маньяка - убийцы который предвкушает радость от предстоящего убийства. Ему нравится лишать людей жизни, смотреть как они умирают, видеть в их глазах страх. Чем больше его жертвы его бояться , тем большее наслаждение он получает из убивая.

[@thedarkcloakartist]

Absolutely. That question had the same ring to it as 'Is water wet?'. If the guy had completely ignored him, there MAYBE would've been a chance he'd been dismissed by Chigurh. A very, very, slim chance... Or at least a coin toss moment. But he saw him. He noticed him. He saw his face. He interacted with him. And when Anton Chigurh notices you, especially if he knows you've noticed him? That is a real bad time. Case in point with the kids at the car crash - 'You never saw me?'. Kids understood the assignment (and at least made some video game money out of it!)

[@jasonspradling4688]

“Well done”……”friendo”!!

[@jackseditzzz]

By far one of my favorite podcasts yet from you guys! I love No Country For Old Men its an amazing film, the cinematography and acting especially from Javier, Chigurh is one of the BEST characters in cinema by far.

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

Thank you!

[@KP-vy9ro]

Yeah I was going to chime in about the whole milk theory, but my point was going to be that in A Clockwork Orange (its explained in both book and movie) that the milk is in 3 different forms called Milachol Plus. And the Plus is s because its either got alcohol, amphetamine or a downer in it

[@thehackmusician]

Great work

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

Thanks!

[@thekittydeity]

I'd love to know your guys thoughts on Billy Bob Thornton's "evil" character in Fargo!

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

Adding to the list!

[@robertdegiorno8690]

I never put together the juxtaposition of someone as evil and sinister as anton holding something that resembles innocence being milk. Great discussion 👍🏻

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

Thanks!

[@olgaferdina3869]

Чигур и молоко несовместимы! Молоко - символ жизни, а Чигур - символ смерти. Чигур не должен пить молоко, он должен пить кровь или что то похожее на кровь например томатный сок , гранатовый сок, красное вино и так далее. Но только не молоко.

[@joyliz3852]

Cormac mcCarthy and the Coen brothers are a weirdly perfect pairing

[@greenvelvet]

What do you think the scene with Anton shooting at the crow on the bridge and missing, signified or meant

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

Maybe he’s the perfect killing machine when he feels like he has a reason behind it

[@seanluby]

They call that in Westerns "a kick the dog the moment." Establishing how awful the bad guy is. The Coens were having fun with a trope

[@marcime174]

Is he shooting the crow as a trope or is a crow to him symbolizing misfortune and death. The coin toss to me indicates Anton is not only fatalistic but superstitious as well. It’s a clue into his character

[@seanluby]

@@marcime174 shooting or harming a helpless animal is the trope. Look at the scene in Blazing Saddles when Clevon Little knocks out the horse. Lol. That was for parody.

[@marcime174]

Maybe I'm reading more into it than was there. Thanks @@seanluby

[@marklightner3538]

He wasn't evil. Just really good at his job

[@marcime174]

Anton lets the coin toss create meaning for his existence within the amoral and indifferent nature of the universe. Carla Jean tells him straight up the coin plays no part and that it’s really his decision.

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

Great point

[@mplayer4621]

Has somebody ever made a puppet (toy)of this killer with all the weapons? That would be great 😂

[@mplayer4621]

Including a coin? 😂

[@Grnrvrklr]

You guys ever cover “The 13th Warrior”? I think it is a very underrated film.

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

Not yet!

[@skymabile2855]

It's not just a movie for Skyrim fans, it's an adaption of the novel ""Eaters of the Dead" by Michael Crichton of Jurassic Park fame. That's right, Jurassic Park was originally a novel!

[@1coven]

I like to think that the Coen brothers are just big Batman fans, and the writers of the story just based Anton Segurh off of Two Face.

[@Will-sj1kx]

Outstanding movie

[@misterboot6682]

He's not '' evil'', he doesn't kill for no reasons. He has his own mindset and agenda. And at the end of the movie he understands he could die anytime (from an accident and not people looking for him). This character knows death is not predictable. You tried to make it sound ''Ted Bundy'' vibes lol. The only way to spend a day with a guy like that is to act stoic, like you don't give a damn about anything. He will see you as useless. But if you show emotions and that you have something to lose, he will get intrigued.

[@asketillus8679]

Uhhh… so murdering multiple innocents isn’t evil? You have some strange morals my guy. Doesn’t matter what his reasons are, he flips a coin and kills people based on a 50/50 chance, and that’s only if he decides they don’t completely deserve to die. He was more than willing to kill because of convenience, and that is evil. Period.

[@misterboot6682]

@@asketillus8679 What I'm trying to tell you is that he doesn't kill for plaisure or to be evil or for fun. He just kills to reach his goals, no matter what the goal is, just like the coin tossing. He is a psychopath. A man's grandma dies and at her funeral people thrown thousands of dollars on her coffin. He sees that. The next day he kills his grandpa. You get it? The act is evil but he doesn't do it out of an evil sentiment. He just wants the money. If you ask any psychopath do you feel evil, they say ''no but I can see why others see it as evil. I just wanted to reach my goal''. Imagine talking about my morals from a comment. Have a minimum bachelor's degree in Criminology like me then we can talk. Have a nice day.

[@malikdageek1501]

Great movie 🎥🍿 i just recently watched it twice....i just don't understand how the cartel was tracking llyewen

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

@@malikdageek1501 they all had trackers too

[@pharaohsmagician8329]

Listen to the audiobook of this movie! Its on yt its a great audiobook

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

🫡

[@TheSaturnV]

Disagree about the exhale at the end of the choking struggle. I think he was just gauging how long his victim was going without air.

[@TheSaturnV]

Thought being his character seemed so indifferent about death and killing that he was being more methodical and machine like in his approach to eliminating the deputy.

[@peterolbrisch8970]

Getting your hands in front of you while in handcuffs is really easy.

[@thedarkcloakartist]

Anton Chigurh not 'making choices' about fate is sort of a way to absolve himself of having a direct say in things. Plausible deniability, in a way. He removes himself, his personhood in a lot of ways, from the equation of fate. Everything has to be 'just right' with him. It *is* all about the principle and order of things, including fate. Killing and the gratification he gets from killing is just a perk of the job, of being this sort of arbiter of 'fate', at least fate as he rationalizes it. Describing that the way he looks at people is absolutely as y'all called it - like he's an alien removed from the human experience, looking upon it with curiosity and mild fascination, but ultimately looking at something rather absurd and meaningless. Like he's outside the human conditiion. Carla Jean really messed with his reality though. Her refusal to engage with his world view of fate and chance, forcing his hand really, is where his downward spiral began. It really threw him off his game. It makes sense that shortly after this is when he gets wrecked by that other car even though he was doing 'everything he's supposed to be doing'. Obeying traffic. Going by the light. Focusing on the road. But it's like, once he deviated (or was forced to) from his assumed trajectory as an arbiter of fate - well, that's when everything got screwed up for him. The lady at the trailer park, I'm not sure he would have killed her. In a lot of ways, that scene was the meeting of two immovable objects, where in a lot of ways, he was thwarted by someone who was bound by principle and at least something that reflects his own warped sense of integrity which he furiously respected to an extent. Carla Jean doesn't quite fit that though, she did have to die which is why he brought up the coin toss in the first place, which he didn't do with the trailer park lady. Anyway, great stuff. Anton is a chilling and fascinating character, terrifying to think that there are people out there with similar psychological makeup to him.

[@georgenelawson9917]

Some things you saying about Anton like the higher power thing could be applied to Michael Myers? Maybe its not all random to Michael maybe a higher power is telling him who to go after who to punish seems like each person is guilty of some things that why theres the rules each of them broke a rule if not multiple rules it's all fate Laurie just happened to drop the key off when hes there it coincidence its fate lol

[@jimparker7778]

Davis??? His name is Moss

[@SonovaBish]

If you're good at something, don't do it for free.

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

😂

[@calderonjacob9]

It almost seems like everybody that doesn’t analysis on this guy has exactly the same thing to say in the exact way are these your guises original thoughts or did y’all follow some script I’m not talking shit I just hear the same thing coming from different people

[@robmann400]

You don’t have to do this...

[@cleanyot]

People always say the same thing, they say that his haircut is the scariest part of him.​@@robmann400

[@Will-sj1kx]

Other dude in red, stop adjusting the microphone

[@Will-sj1kx]

Dude, leave your sneaker alone

[@prestongeer3211]

Thanks for butchering my E.T./ATARI quote ANTHONY!!! 😠 😡 😤 UNSUBSCRIBED!! Nah… Just kidding. You guys know I can’t quit you!! Another great episode. And for Oscar winners playing Bond Villains, don’t forget about Christopher Walken (won an Oscar for “the Deerr Hunter”) and was the villain in “A View to a Kill,” which also showcases a young Dolph Lundgren.

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 oh shit you’re right!

[@prestongeer3211]

@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ Haha. He’s the only other one I can think of, off the top of my head. But I feel like there’s gotta be at least another Oscar Winner in there for Bond’s villains. Christopher Lee, Jonathon Price, Sean Bean, Robert Carlyle, Mads Mikkelson STILL haven’t won an Oscar. 😂

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

@@prestongeer3211 wild!!

[@aliendonkeyy4909]

This is just a rip off of @the vile eye

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

We have 400 episodes that aren’t like this

[@jackknowlton2399]

@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ Yet you have THIS one that is basically a rip off of the Vile Eye. Sooo yeah the other 400 episodes doesn't change that fact.

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

@@jackknowlton2399 we had never watched a single one of their videos, and only became aware of them after the fact by our fans

[@tobos8909]

People like you are why fair use and copyright laws are a fucking carnival

[@jackseditzzz]

quit hating this goes way more in depth about the character and in my opinion they did a fantastical job analyzing chgurh and all this power

[@deanwilliams8331]

Ant on sugar

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

Lol

[@JuanPNavarrete]

Imagine this set up to kill the protagonist off camera. That was pretty stupid and gay.

[@raidersofthelostpodcast_]

It’s actually how it happened in the book too

[@cleanyot]

It's called Anticlimax and it really helps to show that life ain't always as you wish.

[@JuanPNavarrete]

@@cleanyot that is what I have real life for.

[@cleanyot]

@@JuanPNavarrete Yeah and they wanted to show real life, ruthless and painful