Quinn reveals his own experience with Aster and explains his tweet:

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Күн бұрын

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@BlueLoveYT
@BlueLoveYT 8 күн бұрын
At the end of the day, since Quinn and Aster were coworkers, Quinn’s words hold more weight than random Aster fans defending Aster
@AceUkiyoGeatsIX
@AceUkiyoGeatsIX 8 күн бұрын
Other than a select few good eggs. Most niji vtubers don't have actual fans. The only people still defending him are the nijisister cult and if they don't fire him they'll be violating laws in several countries and get banned from future conventions.
@sassyfrenchpotato
@sassyfrenchpotato 8 күн бұрын
Non of them hold weight really, Quinn said that he doesn't really know either, it's just that he didn't liked him and he doesn't like some other livers too but that's it, he never was a fan of roleplaying, at the end of the day the only ones that can say for sure is an external legal investigation, because if there was/were, is/are victims they won't be able to disclose anything yet, due to contractual limitation. We can't pretend they are saints and put our hands on the fire for them, but we can't also judge things as they are right now, much less with a video made by FalseEye, which is also a groomer.
@crimsonachan6676
@crimsonachan6676 8 күн бұрын
Are we SERIOUSLY pretending that Quinn didn't bring in 39IQ to defend NijiEN after the Selen Shock happened? Or all that stuff with Sayu? Are antis seriously going to forgive this guy just because he's turning on...let me check my notes...one of NijiEN's lowest earners that no one in the company likes? With vague, non-committal statements that won't get him sued? The leaks were out there for weeks and he only said something after False's video. He's obviously an opportunistic parasite chasing clout because he saw the easiest target possible, trading a handful of fujos for an army of Niji haters, and you're saying his words have weight? Hell, if it's that easy to change antis minds, Riku should just come out and say he hates Anycolor! That's apparently all it takes!
@Boywithglasses-ok4qw
@Boywithglasses-ok4qw 8 күн бұрын
​@@crimsonachan6676My guy is going delulu for funny black company and funny vtuber lmao
@Tharja-iBW
@Tharja-iBW 8 күн бұрын
@@sassyfrenchpotato They definitely hold weight when he states he's seen him acting weirdly sexual and aggressive around female talents, specifically the younger talents which is what the Raziel document stated months ago. Quinn has no reason to verify that document, infact he has more to gain by going against it because that would debunk the document that she and false made, instead he corroborated it.
@jannik-x
@jannik-x 8 күн бұрын
I'm glad he said it. He should have said it. There's nothing petty or stupid about calling out creepy behavior. Even if it was vague it's better than staying silent.
@mar-nyan
@mar-nyan 8 күн бұрын
Exactly. He doesn’t have to be one of the victims to call out someone’s creepy behavior if he’s witnessed it first hand
@Kas_Styles
@Kas_Styles 7 күн бұрын
This
@redbeeans
@redbeeans 8 күн бұрын
the amount of people in his chat who tried to get him to stop talking about it was crazy. not only that but talking about this doesn’t really benefit him at all, he is saying it because it effects his friends. he knows how niji is, if nothing is said, nothing is done. hell, even if it is said, half the time the STILL do nothing. he is stating his side so that there is a higher chance for justice. regardless of what reason y’all hate him for, he is not doing this for himself and that is obvious. he wants his friends to be safe.
@voiceactorchimera3171
@voiceactorchimera3171 8 күн бұрын
I think some might be worried that he could get into legal trouble with Niji. As he and several other livers had to sign NDAs that are questionably legal. Never mind the hell storm that might come from hardcore Niji fans.
@Pokemaster-wg9gx
@Pokemaster-wg9gx 8 күн бұрын
​@voiceactorchimera3171 Kuro has directly said before that its only binding for 6 months though lel There was even a bit where Kuro basically went "wait how long has it been? Its been 6 months, chat I'm not under contract anymore. i can say things but I'm *choosing* not to" because he knows it would just bring more hate and struggle to his friends Even Sayu after leaving said she doesn't want to burn it down for her friends I think only Doki actually wanted to lash out and be public about it at first because she was hurt and not fully thinking
@GeebusCrust
@GeebusCrust 8 күн бұрын
​@@Pokemaster-wg9gxwell, that and she needed to clear her name. They intentionally silenced her so they could control the narrative. Once she said her peace, she stopped talking because there was nothing to gain by keeping on. Just extra headache and heartache for no benefit to anyone at all.
@oguubear
@oguubear 8 күн бұрын
I think he has good intentions but he saying and doing too much. He should of just tweeted an apology and ended at that instead of living streaming it. And if chat actually would trying to stop him, this is when he knew he should stop. I don’t think he needed an explanation as to why he tweeted that, just saying apologizing would have been enough. He seem pretty anxious with how people perceive him especially his antis. I do hope he’s okay cuz he seem like the person who would be put off with people who don’t like him that much.
@GeebusCrust
@GeebusCrust 8 күн бұрын
@oguubear you mean apologize and shut up? So people could continue to draw conclusions from what he said? Nah. He needed to make it clear *why* he deleted it and that it was uncalled for. He did apologize and try to stay out of it, he did the stream because that didn't quell people's anger. He did the right thing explaining that he was being petty and bandwagoning to vaguely air his own grievances. Anyone who was telling him to be quiet is either worried about him tanking his own rep, or the rep of Kurosanji. If it's the former, we'll it's his livelihood and he can risk it if he wants. If it's the latter, they never had his best interest in mind from the start.
@SimplySwayze
@SimplySwayze 8 күн бұрын
Quinn always struck me as someone with a chip on his shoulder, and that initial vaguetweet was _absolutely_ an impulsive mistake on his part, but I’ll admit that this was probably the most mature way he could’ve gone about laying this to rest. Very well-spoken.
@Kittenlover113355
@Kittenlover113355 8 күн бұрын
But are we not glad that he still spoke up about Aster being creepy?
@Hxppx
@Hxppx 8 күн бұрын
I really hope this is a sign that he'll learn to handle these sorts of topics with more care in future
@TamagoSenshi
@TamagoSenshi 7 күн бұрын
It's never a mistake to throw dirt on someone you know is a sexual harasser
@RenaissanceMotoko972
@RenaissanceMotoko972 7 күн бұрын
I'm glad he did, I thought it was a foul joke from his part, but it wasn't. I shouldn't have mistrust one of my fav vtuber :)
@Ghosst_writer
@Ghosst_writer 7 күн бұрын
It's not unreasonable to be triggered by sexual harassment
@luked5504
@luked5504 8 күн бұрын
Quinn explained his tweet very well. I don't think he was downplaying the allegations at all.
@RJB_TV
@RJB_TV 7 күн бұрын
to go even further, he confirms he has witnessed such behavior from the accused person. He confirms such behavior happened to some degree. 5:45
@gerardofb2994
@gerardofb2994 7 күн бұрын
But he was
@b33p241
@b33p241 7 күн бұрын
@@gerardofb2994 he already explained in this exact video that he understands that his tweet wasn't needed nor appropriate for the situation. he did it in the heat of the moment, not to intentionally downplay the allegations. im pretty sure he gets how stupid it was and has already apologized for it. what's done was done and it was addressed fairly so it's time to let go.
@LanaUsagiVO
@LanaUsagiVO 8 күн бұрын
This was worded very maturely by Quinn. I got the same vibes from this person just from watching them so none of this surprises me.
@Swordfish728
@Swordfish728 7 күн бұрын
The only issue is him repeatedly putting himself down unnecessarily - in legal speak he's a character witness, his testimony goes towards the personality of the accused, it's something that's still seen as valuable even though it doesn't directly address the allegations, it's not meant to - it's not that kind of testimony. A good portion of the people telling him to shut up are doing so in bad faith, to protect the accused and the company.
@yijitng8711
@yijitng8711 8 күн бұрын
vtuber clarifying and not vague posting is an actual game changer
@kopiko91021
@kopiko91021 8 күн бұрын
never been a kyo fan but rn he just gained my respect, he's a real one for this pretty sure he has laws and NDAs but he still talked about it, and he didn't held anything back goddamn he's thhe goat!!
@kidrobot.
@kidrobot. 8 күн бұрын
sure bud
@N1CH0_N1N3
@N1CH0_N1N3 Күн бұрын
Yeah, sure Kyo/Quinn The guy who can't stay quiet for a week without reviving a topic that's been dead for months.
@m1churr0
@m1churr0 8 күн бұрын
I can't help but think that this is one of the most sincere and thoughtfully worded apologies/statements I've seen, especially in the online space. he admit responsibility, explained why he thought it was wrong, what made him do it (but not necessarily to justify himself since he admitted that was petty and irresponsible), and what he'll doing moving forward. I've gotta agree that he didn't say anything crazy to make it worse, either.
@m1churr0
@m1churr0 8 күн бұрын
he definitely could've been more direct, but the repeating didn't take away from the actual premise
@TonyBomboozled
@TonyBomboozled 8 күн бұрын
The vague Tweet was an unwise decision, but I definitely appreciate hearing Quinn share his point of view on-stream. Even if he wasn't sexually harassed by Aster, Quinn's statement about Aster's behavior lining up with Aster's leaked DMs with Scarle is important information.
@tobi79777
@tobi79777 8 күн бұрын
More men should call out this incel behavior even if its not their business. Im glad he said this.
@DarukaEon
@DarukaEon 8 күн бұрын
We're only human. You're good, Quinn. But yeah, good on you for catching your mistake and owning up to it. Handled well.
@super_nurd
@super_nurd 8 күн бұрын
I always thought Aster was gay. Definitely a wake up and realizing he’s just playing a character. And with Quinn saying it happened to his friends then it was probably Enna.
@kilbert666
@kilbert666 8 күн бұрын
You were supposed to think he was gay. That's how he gets close.
@Hoka1201
@Hoka1201 8 күн бұрын
He have more friend than Enna, it could be anyone at this point. She just best friend doesnt mean she the only one
@kingyorin
@kingyorin 8 күн бұрын
He is friends with scarle
@DarkestVampire92
@DarkestVampire92 8 күн бұрын
Pretty much all of the male Vtubers look and act gay to appeal to the female audience, much like how many female Vtubers play a role that appeals to a male audience. Its just playing pretend, marketing, and make believe. Mostly marketing in agencies.
@vencelfoldi8236
@vencelfoldi8236 8 күн бұрын
It's a really common "nice guy" shtick. Acting romantically and sexually uninterested towards women to such an extreme that you'd question their orientation, just to pull a complete 180 once someone has warmed up to them a little.
@brianwalsh1339
@brianwalsh1339 8 күн бұрын
To the people casting doubt on Quinn… yeah I don’t like the guy either, but what does he have to gain from pissing off a large percentage of his fanbase? I’m gonna his word in this.
@VisualEnjoyer9756
@VisualEnjoyer9756 8 күн бұрын
Bare in mind he was and still is VERY young and immature so I can see this as him "showing his age" and making a brash decision with what he tweeted and then deleted. Sitting down and reflecting on how to word things is a thing that comes with age and sadly sometimes that lesson has to be learned by fucking up like he did here. He pissed off a lot of people but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because of his young age. Now if the story later unfolds that he was truly just being a "mean girl" and saying shit to stir the pot well, then he deserves no chances then, he truly should reap what he sews
@voiceactorchimera3171
@voiceactorchimera3171 8 күн бұрын
Quinn has always come off as an annoying little brother type to me. Still... with the track record of Nijin's dealings(Or lack of) with SEVEAL other livers, it doesn't surprise me there is Sexual Harassment. Wasn't there also a producer/Company they had to stop working with because of Sexual Harassment and pictures of Livers being leaked too?
@pezzo7089
@pezzo7089 8 күн бұрын
@@VisualEnjoyer9756 He's still in his early 20s isn't he? The brain continues to develop and mature into your mid to late 20s. I'm in my late 20s and I'm a much different person than I was even just three years ago. I think he's learning, and when you're a public figure of even modest clout, learning is going to be a volatile experience for yourself and everyone around you.
@nagajule7715
@nagajule7715 8 күн бұрын
His words hold more weight than the average Aster fan.
@Dressup_Doll
@Dressup_Doll 7 күн бұрын
@@pezzo7089He’s 21/22, I think.
@Yenrei
@Yenrei 8 күн бұрын
He's pretty articulate. I don't like vagueposting, but I do like how Quinn handled his opportunity to be less vague, but not to the point to endanger any victims directly. Especially like that he didn't let the tribal sisters silence him. Btw in court, you can expose someone's character in a separate issue and potentially use that as proof of motive for the tried issue. Granted, the prosecution has every opportunity to rebut that, but I don't think Aster has ever displayed such redeemable traits to override the fact that he's a predator.
@Handleoriginal12
@Handleoriginal12 8 күн бұрын
The way he describes Aster immediately made me think of the stereotypical incel and some people I’ve personally known who weren’t good people. I don’t know the first thing about the individual since I never cared enough to look into him so i don’t have the acumen regarding to legal allegations. Regardless, why is it so hard for people to just be normal? Just be a normal decent human being and you won’t need to manipulate people to like you.
@Kittenlover113355
@Kittenlover113355 8 күн бұрын
LITERALLY. i think Quinn was too soft on him in this stream, like Aster is a fully grown man and he knows what hes doing. You dont pounce on new girls without bad intentions
@TalesOfGod
@TalesOfGod 7 күн бұрын
I think he dug himself a bigger hole in the way he described it. I shouldn't need to say this but a socially awkward person is not a bad person. Calling someone an incel means nothing nowadays when it has become the default insult for anyone who disagrees with a woman online. I do think that Aster has been involved in issues but what Quinn is saying is counterproductive to his point.
@Kittenlover113355
@Kittenlover113355 7 күн бұрын
@ does the word incel mean nothing??? Or are there just a LOT of incels and men with incel-like qualities??
@pippip4911
@pippip4911 8 күн бұрын
i feel really bad that Quinn is getting so much hate for telling his truth, specially by his own fanbase... like it or not he doesn't win anything by lying, he is losing so much just for being truthful... i've never watched Nijisanji livers before but i started watching Quinn as himself because i stumbled upon him after he debuted in his current persona (i learn who Kyo was because because he hinted about his past life). I've heard of all the Niji dramas but i'm still an outsider... and as an outsider who doesn't know who this other people are i think he did the right thing... As a viewer of streamers/vtubers i don't wanna watch someone who is potentially creepy towards women. I don't know if the allegations towards this other streamer are true, but if Quinn thinks the guy could be dangerous i'm glad he spoke out. His viewer base is mostly women as well, it would be irresponsible if he pretended that his ex-coworker was a saint just to please their fanbase. People are treating Quinn on twitter as if HE was the one with allegations... it's really sad i don't know what to think about his fanbase (the bytes) now. They all seemed really nice but i can't believe they turned on the guy instead of turning on the other person who could be a predator, it makes no sense.
@Pokemaster-wg9gx
@Pokemaster-wg9gx 8 күн бұрын
Its kind of a boy who cried wolf situation People made such a big deal about the smallest shit for so long that when big stuff actually started coming out lots of people assumed it was just more Niji hate and smearing It doesn't help that people loved to hop onto any unsubstantiated 4chan rumor they could so less people believe actually valid stuff
@pumpkin7079
@pumpkin7079 8 күн бұрын
To be fair im sure its more niji fans in general than the bytes turning on him for this, because as someone that watches him pretty regularly i think most people wouldn’t be against him giving his perspective on it if he witnessed his friends being made uncomfortable
@kresentiaadela9489
@kresentiaadela9489 7 күн бұрын
I like Quin when he still work for his previous company and until now, and I can say he's an honest type, he always being genuine to people, and well people sometimes cant bear the truth or how he spew some truth to them, that's why many people hate him.
@pippip4911
@pippip4911 7 күн бұрын
@@pumpkin7079 im glad to hear that then! it just when i logged on twitter after this happened a lot of "bytes" i follow where condemning him for calling out the other guy and it made me really sad thinking his community was backing up a possible predator...
@pumpkin7079
@pumpkin7079 7 күн бұрын
@@pippip4911 oh god maybe some of them are then 😭 thats really too bad and hopefully not the majority at least
@kas_ualties7692
@kas_ualties7692 8 күн бұрын
Well now we kinda have the answers as to why Aster is kind of excluded in nijisanji social events. I always just assumed he didn’t mesh well personality-wise (which is partially correct.) Like you would never hear about him in big gatherings or karaokes, I think only recently did I hear about him spending time with Finana and Claude in person. Even on his birthday stream I think only Fulgur showed up for a bit. I felt suspicious but also bad, so sometimes I would pity-watch if he wasn’t playing league.
@VezkiDqqww
@VezkiDqqww 6 күн бұрын
Yeah literally that's how I felt. Almost never in events and collabs. And even though I didn't watch Aster separately I remember a series of collabs between Zali and Aster and they were always strangely unpleasant to watch. Now I get why
@kas_ualties7692
@kas_ualties7692 6 күн бұрын
@@VezkiDqqww I didn’t watch him often either, I think a collab I did like was with him, shu, and enna playing Tetris but that was like 2 years ago lmao. I wonder why you thought zali and aster collabs were unpleasant, context?
@VezkiDqqww
@VezkiDqqww 6 күн бұрын
@kas_ualties7692 no particular situations, just a general impression. Or maybe I just can't perceive Aster objectively after all the new information about him, that's possible too
@Kittenlover113355
@Kittenlover113355 8 күн бұрын
I'm so glad that despite deleting his tweet, he's still speaking out against a man who is clearly a creep!
@Kittenlover113355
@Kittenlover113355 8 күн бұрын
tho dissapointed that he kinda downplayed it. like Aster's a grown man, if hes being weird to girls and pouncing on them, he knows better.
@Ladyラヴェジャー
@Ladyラヴェジャー 8 күн бұрын
I’m not surprised at this point, knowing Nijisanji’s recent events
@Piyayei64
@Piyayei64 8 күн бұрын
NijiSisters when Quinn talks about the Ex-Liver Sayu: YEAH!! SPILL THE TEA ABOUT HER!! Also Nijisisters when Quinn talks about the current Liver Aster: REEE!! WHY ARE YOU SPILLING THE TEA ABOUT HIM!!
@lostpotata5567
@lostpotata5567 8 күн бұрын
-> Her -> Him Sister Classic Nijer
@yanowic9107
@yanowic9107 8 күн бұрын
​@@lostpotata5567 woah, not the hard -er
@casteanpreswyn7528
@casteanpreswyn7528 7 күн бұрын
I've never understood the "nijisisters" nickname for the apologists. Is it just casual misogyny or is there an actual reason?
@andrehashimoto8056
@andrehashimoto8056 7 күн бұрын
Holo has Holobros. Niji has Nijisisters. Fitting enough, both corpos have their MAIN AUDIENCE being the very gender those terms imply.
@casteanpreswyn7528
@casteanpreswyn7528 7 күн бұрын
@@andrehashimoto8056 I've legit never heard the term "Holobros" in the 6 years I've been watching Hololive. But alright. Lol
@LuizenL
@LuizenL 8 күн бұрын
1:56 I'm not fully aware of this particular situation, but this is a very common issue with Twitter. Even when someone does something bad and gets called out for it, people often jump on the bandwagon and start bringing up completely unrelated and often minor things, which end up taking away from the actual issues. I don't know much abt Quinn, but respect for realizing he was playing into that.
@RutgerKresnik
@RutgerKresnik 8 күн бұрын
im not a quinn fan but bear in mind he's probably still under a nda of some sort so he can't come out and say aster is a creep who did everything he's accused off so he needs to dance around it the way he does wile being vague as to not bring the niji wrath down on him
@voiceactorchimera3171
@voiceactorchimera3171 8 күн бұрын
According to a Lawyer, some of Niji's contracts and NDA's could be illegal even within Japan. Quinn could 'spill the tea' but a drawn out (BS)legal battle with Niji would be a lot on an indie streamer anyway.
@Pokemaster-wg9gx
@Pokemaster-wg9gx 8 күн бұрын
Kuro has said before it only lasted 6 months but both he and Sayu chose not to say stuff because they were being considerate of their friends still in the company and knew people are like sharks with blood in the water when even the slightly Niji drama happens so they don't want to unleash actually big stuff
@Kaimine08
@Kaimine08 7 күн бұрын
It's not about NDA. He didn't dance around anything. He simply stated yes, it's possible, but I don't know him enough to say if the recent allegations or true or not because I kept my distance from Aster. If he stated it was true and he has no actual real evidence to back it up and it was found out to not be true, Quinn can be sued for defamation not only by Aster but also by Nijisanji because Nijisanji owns the rights to Aster.
@XavierVA24
@XavierVA24 8 күн бұрын
I'm genuinely glad Quinn gave his 2 cents on the matter, as should anyone and I really hope he's doing better than he was at Kurosanji
@uboaappears
@uboaappears 8 күн бұрын
This was incredibly mature and well-worded. This is personal growth right here. I don't watch Quinn much but I gotta hand it to him for acknowledging his mistake and considering so many different people when trying to fix it by making this statement.
@-Raylight
@-Raylight 8 күн бұрын
Nijisisters are just scary, they'll defend their oshi even tho they blatantly harass innocent people in front of them Nijisanji just couldn't let Hololive took this month's drama huh xD
@Aceshot-uu7yx
@Aceshot-uu7yx 8 күн бұрын
Holo drama is people leaving the company and going on to success in the indie sphere. Niji drama is like watching an oil spill.
@lloydearlofpudding9536
@lloydearlofpudding9536 8 күн бұрын
​@@Aceshot-uu7yx man if someone leaving their company on good terms is considered drama, what is niji? A nuclear crisis?
@Aceshot-uu7yx
@Aceshot-uu7yx 8 күн бұрын
@@lloydearlofpudding9536 I think the Doki situation was the worst. I never want to get on the bad side of the dragoons. I get the feeling my house will have enough bricks thrown at it to build a new one.
@lucidreality2563
@lucidreality2563 8 күн бұрын
Nijisisters are beyond from getting help
@date5960
@date5960 7 күн бұрын
​​@@Aceshot-uu7yx The Holo drama is not even drama. Just naive people exaggerated about a very simple workplace situation.
@lisaminase
@lisaminase 8 күн бұрын
Aster was my kamioshi since debut. I was hoping that these allegations were not true. I knew that he was different irl and his character is all an act, idrc ik it is what sells in this community, but i thought he was at least a decent human being. But after Quinn spoke up, I can’t cope anymore. I’m done being a vtuber fan, was fun :>
@lisaminase
@lisaminase 8 күн бұрын
Is it my luck? Why do people I like/enjoy watching turn out to be weirdos😭
@karonuva
@karonuva 8 күн бұрын
honestly i think there's still a lot of vtubers you can watch, but i feel at this point any male niji talent should be treated as radioactive waste since the company seems way too happy to enable or even reward that type of behavior
@kresentiaadela9489
@kresentiaadela9489 7 күн бұрын
well glad you know now, it's better than later, not all vtuber bad, some really genuine to their fans and makes a lot of sacrifice for them, but its like searching for needle in haystack.
@kotorandcorvid4968
@kotorandcorvid4968 7 күн бұрын
@@karonuva There are many male talents with little to no controversy. Many of the former female livers still interact with many of the former male livers, most notably Kuro/Mysta
@date5960
@date5960 7 күн бұрын
​​@@lisaminase Your mistake was limiting yourself with Kurosanji. Go out there and find new oshis. There are tons of amazing vtubers out there. It's not worth quitting everything because of this company which we all know is garbage.
@KCknifecentipede
@KCknifecentipede 7 күн бұрын
I'm just impressed how introspective and articulate he's being here. I don't see that from people every day
@Waeva777
@Waeva777 8 күн бұрын
Quinn is really really well spoken, im actually really impressed tf
@TheNidface
@TheNidface 8 күн бұрын
Still feel bad for Quinn. The amount of hate he received was absurd.
@KaoKacique
@KaoKacique 8 күн бұрын
Unfair that he received this amount of hate. I'm not a fan of Quinn, but if he really witnessed Aster being inappropriate, he's courageous in coming out despite knowing he would get flak
@RotheAlien
@RotheAlien 8 күн бұрын
I understand some of the hate because the way he went about it made the attention shift towards his drama with A instead that towards the victims, I DONT condone the hate that he received for simply talking about this, he has every right to speak up about this
@kresentiaadela9489
@kresentiaadela9489 7 күн бұрын
you can say people can't handle the truth very well, and maybe they think it need to be hidden ? people so weird
@kresentiaadela9489
@kresentiaadela9489 7 күн бұрын
I already like Quin since he worked from his previous company before, I like how he say what he need to say
@hwangeuratt8737
@hwangeuratt8737 8 күн бұрын
I love how he sets his own boundaries. and that is fucking important in life, okay people?
@theredwilly5325
@theredwilly5325 8 күн бұрын
Keyword "Predator"
@nova1153
@nova1153 7 күн бұрын
This was nice of Quinn to coin into. After his part on the Sayu disaster and then his rant about her, I didn't think he would ever speak out against any of the other Niji members regardless of the truth. Even if it was vague this helps so much against another real problem inside the branch that up until now was being disregarded as nothing but a rumor, likely a photoshop. Hopefully something good comes out of this and Niji doesn't punish the person who spoke out originally. Although maybe getting kicked out of the company would be more of a blessing at this point tbh.
@TheLeviathan1293
@TheLeviathan1293 8 күн бұрын
Quinn just said he does not know if Aster did all that but that he's a creep anyway. That's the summary.
@turtburgler8990
@turtburgler8990 8 күн бұрын
I don't think Quinn needed to apologize for corroborating reports against a predator content creator who missuses their platform and status for such disgusting things. No more apologies we need action/results.
@howiethao277
@howiethao277 8 күн бұрын
I know this is completely unrelated but KZbin just for real threw a 22 min full episode ad at me. Like wtf
@kaiMikail
@kaiMikail 8 күн бұрын
Should've kept the tweet but knowing the company, he had to keep himself safe basically. Personally, if you're out of it, keeping it vague is the best thing you can do as a bystander (meaning you've witnessed it) ffs
@SubtitleCat
@SubtitleCat 8 күн бұрын
I hope fans don’t speculate or assume about the identity of possible victims and hound them for answers or pity them ahead of any clarifying news. Just be there for them. They should be allowed to deal with this in private, with the least stress possible. As Quinn said, the choice of whether or not to bring light to specific details of the matter should be made by the (possible) victims. Trying to pinpoint the identity of the victim/s is not helpful imo since there is already an investigation being done, and the involved parties may not like to acknowledge this issue in a public way. Although the pool of possible victims is really narrow and can be easily speculated, I hope fans would not preemptively react by buzzing all over the livers regarding the issue.
@elementceaser9813
@elementceaser9813 8 күн бұрын
This is really intreasting to me. I've always been a big fan of Iluna and it feels like that illusion I had cracked. I know i should have expected it to crack but never in this way. It's strange I want to look back and try to decode Quinn's feeling see if there was any signs. I want to hear the rest of Iluna's feelings too. All the livers always felt so strong to keep going on in a company like that... I really want them to find a better opportunity than that since they are so talented
@kresentiaadela9489
@kresentiaadela9489 7 күн бұрын
They can't do that because of Niji's motto is "Nijisanji is family". Talk bad about others is no no except they who against Niji. They won't tell how they really feel to each other.
@elementceaser9813
@elementceaser9813 7 күн бұрын
@@kresentiaadela9489 I know that which makes me feel upset how trapped are. I think they deserve to say their opinions but I know that will probably never happen
@st.haborym
@st.haborym 8 күн бұрын
"You are the master of the unspoken word Mr. Wu. Once it is out of your mouth, it is out of your control."
@2407ari
@2407ari 8 күн бұрын
Looking at the person before debut really concerning yknow? It all makes sense now
@Flor_piom
@Flor_piom 3 күн бұрын
I honestly like how Quinn talked in that stream, he explained his point of view over and over again, did not trip over his words and made his stand clear. About Aster, he's a creep. Period. It's not looking good for him and I hope he gets whay he deserves. And I wish Quinn doesn't receive repercussions from that shady company or deluded fans. All my support to the people affected
@jacewisoul
@jacewisoul 8 күн бұрын
I agree it's really impulsive of him fot tweeting then deleting it, but it's better for him to delete the twt than leave it out. Things will get worse than him deleting it
@ahmadfiaz3
@ahmadfiaz3 8 күн бұрын
One thing that's refreshing however is that quinn knows he can be really stupid and that at times a person just needs to shut up.
@edadankmemes
@edadankmemes 8 күн бұрын
honestly, the last person i expected to be the first major cancellations of a corpo vtuber. like aster came out of the fucking blue, that’s crazy
@kidrobot.
@kidrobot. 8 күн бұрын
just goes to show that you shouldn't idolize these vtubers. because they are all playing a role and you don't know them in real life
@edadankmemes
@edadankmemes 8 күн бұрын
@ oh i didnt. i was just observing.
@raccoonchild
@raccoonchild 8 күн бұрын
"I didn't expect this mushroom to be toxic! That's crazy" "This is why you shouldn't go eating every random mushroom you see" Mf cannot read... But I agree with you. I thought he was the most boring vtuber from NijiEN and a waste of a good design, concept and name (yeah I love space). Criminal behavior never even crossed my mind... I just thought he was just a random femboy struggling to make himself interesting.
@TipsyTae
@TipsyTae 6 күн бұрын
Good on Quinn for explaining his side.
@GM_Lemmy
@GM_Lemmy 8 күн бұрын
I will reserve judgement for when more evidence comes out... Sadly, while the allegations are not out of the realm of possibility, it's also important to keep in mind that the internet is FULL of false allegations of this kind of action/behavior... Many of which are motivated by anger, bitterness and/or a simple inability to understand that some people simply aren't very good at communicating with the opposite gender. I don't personally like or dislike Aster or Quinn, TBH. I have no horse on this race... I just hope the truth prevails, based on objective facts, not just allegations... And if someone turns out to be guilty, they should be punished appropriately. That's all.
@toms7219
@toms7219 5 күн бұрын
They made scarle do that forced collab with him. Pepperidge Farm wishes it doesn't remember but it does.
@NSouka1123
@NSouka1123 6 күн бұрын
He explained and handled this quite well
@chaeripie888
@chaeripie888 8 күн бұрын
Some of your guys are crazy. Just because you don't like Quinn for certain things, it doesn't make aster right. Two wrongs don't make a right. 😐
@sumomanify
@sumomanify 8 күн бұрын
What did Quinn do?
@timpointer6664
@timpointer6664 8 күн бұрын
@@sumomanify Quinn was a close friend to clique member Enna and basically their 'yes man'. Unless i'm mistaken, he was bragging on an alt after the Sayu termination and i think was also responsible for doxxing her. Quinns a piece of work, but he doesn't have much to gain but a lot to lose for fingering his former co-workers. I wouldn't say he's redeemed himself yet, but it's a start.
@Kittenlover113355
@Kittenlover113355 8 күн бұрын
bc they literally only dislike him cuz he left NIJI and spoke out about the company
@kresentiaadela9489
@kresentiaadela9489 7 күн бұрын
@@sumomanify state his opinion about someone
@thunderowl
@thunderowl 7 күн бұрын
@@sumomanify He's jealous of Sayu.
@conniewrixon1511
@conniewrixon1511 5 күн бұрын
Quinn has a perspective of Aster that we are lacking, please stop trying to silence him.
@ADION_NIGHT
@ADION_NIGHT 7 күн бұрын
He put on a good image, it was fun while it lasted. Now that there are leaks it's hard to cover.
@songetc-wi5wm
@songetc-wi5wm 5 күн бұрын
As a dragoon, i always wonder why selen never collabed with aster even after he let everyone know that he a master apex player. As we know selen's 2434 challenge, she will literally collab with everyone and a collab with fellow master player will really fasten the challenge. But still didn't collab 1 on 1 with aster. He just manage to join on big events selen hosted
@Lucky_RFMDA
@Lucky_RFMDA 7 күн бұрын
As Quinn said, he doesn't want to get sued, that's why he needed to be vague about what he said and probably that was the main reason he deleted the tweet. He saying "he" was inappropriate towards female coworkers and he does see him doing the things the allegation said according to what he has witness. I really hope for the victim or victims to came out of this fine, as Niji may try to punish them for leaking information, although they where force to talk to people external to the company after management did literally nothing.
@EepyAi
@EepyAi 8 күн бұрын
I find it interesting and slightly funny how all the livers, ex company livers, ones with new companies, indies, they all say “please, don’t hate. It does nothing and it will only create more problems in the future.” Or they say “this is unneeded, you do not need to stand up for me or hate on someone saying it was for me.” And then, like, half the community from each liver starts hating on others. Like, kindly, get a life. You are only hating because you have nothing to do with your time and all you do is sit on the couch with your nose in your phone watching vtubers.
@galeria_m
@galeria_m 6 күн бұрын
This begs the question, what should a bystander such as him do in such a situation?
@karonuva
@karonuva 8 күн бұрын
While I can agree since the tweet was vaguely phrased and people love assuming shit it can muddle things, overall speaking up about it was better than not. Helping lend credence to yeah this guy is AT BEST a giant fucking weirdo who talks like an incel, it's good to have people verify that they've personally witnessed this type of behavior, I think it helps glue any separate accusations together if someone can verify it was happening often.
@TacticalHamsterDance
@TacticalHamsterDance 7 күн бұрын
Sounds like he was rocking the boat and he didn't want to rock the boat. It is not always (I'd say only rarely) a wrong thing to do so but it's his wishes...
@Alex_245.
@Alex_245. 8 күн бұрын
i'm so sad because iluna was the one who introduced me to Vtuber and Nijisanjien, i was really depressed on a round 2020 then i discovered illuna was my first ever introduction to vtuber. I thought nijisanji was the group of friend that i want but never have but after the selen situation i can't see it the same way that's why i stop supporting nijisanji but i will support the talents just not nijisanji and now this i thought there were good friends but i guess it was all just a lie😢
@kresentiaadela9489
@kresentiaadela9489 7 күн бұрын
Nijisanji motto is they are a big happy family. Well from Selen situation (her genmate throw her under the bus) we clearly know its not the truth. Of course its more like company rule to make it they seems okay when they clearly not.
@SeiryuNanago
@SeiryuNanago 8 күн бұрын
lilbro about to get sued
@_Crush__
@_Crush__ 5 күн бұрын
apparently, the argument with Scarle was not an isolated case or just “ friends argue. what are you gonna do?”
@rxvengg1377
@rxvengg1377 6 күн бұрын
W quinn
@oof7711
@oof7711 5 күн бұрын
Why are people shitting on him for talking about a person who sexually harasses others…? And why is it “stupid” to call a person who harasses others out?? Vague, because he doesn’t wanna get sued, keep quiet and everyone would stay quiet and the harassers doings would never see light. I don’t see this as a mistake, when ur friends are going through harassment are u suppose to pretend it doesn’t exist because ur acting as a character? Tf this isn’t Niji anymore
@aariff_b.
@aariff_b. 8 күн бұрын
Aster need to get out from Niji fr fr.Dude is a creep.
@olivertism1
@olivertism1 6 күн бұрын
guys I’m so confused what’s going on?? I’ve looked all over twt and no one is giving context
@yameatinwolf
@yameatinwolf 5 күн бұрын
The prev video by false gives more context but tldr; it got leaked that aster arcadia has been sexually harassing women both in and outside of nijii
@olivertism1
@olivertism1 5 күн бұрын
@ Omg😭
@plotfinder5640
@plotfinder5640 2 күн бұрын
Not to be rude, but I wasn’t really surprised, if you knew about Aster’s past life, unless he changed you probably could’ve seen this coming.
@tsutei5136
@tsutei5136 8 күн бұрын
i'm just saying, the person playing aster WAS a 1 million points kassadin main. just saying.
@raccoonchild
@raccoonchild 8 күн бұрын
Really glad I have no way of knowing what this means.
@tsutei5136
@tsutei5136 8 күн бұрын
it's a league of legends thing. kassadin mains are... a little infamous. just a tiny bit
@cow_tools_
@cow_tools_ 7 күн бұрын
Why does he keep saying "I won't say anything I shouldn't say anything, anyway here's me saying everything."
@JoyceKim-j1n
@JoyceKim-j1n 3 күн бұрын
I THINK he's saying: I shouldn't say anything, but since it's already out there, the least I can do is give a bit of information
@TamagoSenshi
@TamagoSenshi 7 күн бұрын
Anyone saying he shouldn't have spoken up is saying that that it's bad to speak out against sexual harassment. The initial tweet may have been petty, but are you really going to complain about someone being petty towards a sex pest? He's under NDAs, but still chose to spoke up as much as he could, what are you complaining about?
@amirah6710
@amirah6710 6 күн бұрын
my opinion people who hating on him bcs of this some maybe bcs they were worried about quinn and some probably just indenial bcs their fav vtuber grp actually not really in a good term irl🤷‍♀️ my opinion tho
@XdLOLXD400
@XdLOLXD400 7 күн бұрын
>doesnt want to get involved >*gets involved* it takes a special kind of stupid but at least theres more info because his words has more weight
@wa_akii6873
@wa_akii6873 7 күн бұрын
nijisanji fans shouldn’t be defending aster at all… it baffles me that they do. if you love the livers so much you shouldn’t be okay with a creepy coworker being around them :/ like i cant believe these ppl go crazy when male & female vtubers interact as friends but when theres an actual creep they are silent!
@Hyrou
@Hyrou 6 күн бұрын
DiddySanji
@QrincessQri
@QrincessQri 6 күн бұрын
I know a few people trying to silence him we’re just being genuinely worried for his well-being. They probably don’t want him getting into trouble with that hellhole or a company, and it’s rabid defenders… but like people have the right to speak their truths, consequences be damned. If he had a negative experience with someone he deserves to speak about it, even if vaguely for obvious reasons.
@kiyoshi-o2z
@kiyoshi-o2z 7 күн бұрын
Bro nijisanji went down the moment they terminated selen now dokibird
@Alilina10
@Alilina10 8 күн бұрын
Tbh I still don’t know what happened What happened?
@pippip4911
@pippip4911 7 күн бұрын
a Nijisanji Male Talent was a accused of sexual harrasment by another talent whose identity is being kept private (check FalseEyed video). Quinn sent out a petty tweet against the accused talent and deleted it, he apologized for tweeting because he was out of line and later made this livestream to explain himself and his experience with this person (he says he saw him being creepy to his female friend). Some of his own fans and Niji fans turned against Quinn after this livestream because they think he is throwing the other guy under the bus just because he doesn't like him. Currently Nijisanji is making a third party investigation on the case to see if the accusations are true. We are currenly waiting for the results.
@RotheAlien
@RotheAlien 8 күн бұрын
On one hand I totally understand if the allegations are true and his behaviour was making ppl uncomfortable he has the right to speak about this, on the other hand I do think Quinn could have put the focus on the potential victims and not about drama and clout, his words and he admits he was petty on purpose :/ I think your annoyance towards a coworker is a lesser problem if he’s actually hurt ppl then he’s a straight up threat Personally, as someone who also is a csa survivor, shielding your petty behaviour behind your triggers is immature however I understand why you’d feel triggered in this situation. I think Quinn is still immature but also I his reaction is not that big of a deal if the allegations are true
@kjarakravik4837
@kjarakravik4837 8 күн бұрын
He wasn't shielding his petty behaviour behind his triggers, he openly admitted he was being petty and provided an explanation for his actions. Also, why in the world are you asking that he put focus on the victims when they don't want any focus to be put on them in this situation?
@raccoonchild
@raccoonchild 8 күн бұрын
It really can't be this hard to understand a few words...
@Kaimine08
@Kaimine08 7 күн бұрын
I don't know any drama that is happening in the last six months and I honestly don't care. Quinn realizes he could set himself up for a defamation lawsuit and he walked back his post and he did so really quick. He explains himself and basically mentions Aster and him don't get along and the general reason as to why. You'd be surprised how many vtubers don't get along with each other even if they work in the same company or even in the same gen. As for the allegations against Aster, Quinn mentions he saw some weird things (Most likely against Enna since they're good friends) and he cut ties with him and probably told his female friends to do the same. Quinn saying he wants nothing to do with the vtuber community and it's pretty easy to understand why...
@HattieJosh
@HattieJosh 7 күн бұрын
You don't care about sexual harassment? Get outta here
@Kaimine08
@Kaimine08 6 күн бұрын
@@HattieJosh If it's actual sexual harassment, then he can be criminally charged. I haven't followed this situation at all but the fact he's still streaming and not in jail means whatever sexual harassment he's doing, no one is trying to put him in jail for so honestly, I don't care one way or another if the supposed victims don't care either.
@HattieJosh
@HattieJosh 6 күн бұрын
@Kaimine08 you are very, very weird
@tropicalAzure
@tropicalAzure 8 күн бұрын
Huh
@jaqu9001
@jaqu9001 6 күн бұрын
male vtubers don't start drama challenge mode impossible
@아핚핚핚-v5w
@아핚핚핚-v5w 5 күн бұрын
Watch Gavis Bettel or holostars. Theres little drama in here
@Wanky_Woop
@Wanky_Woop 8 күн бұрын
Some people say Quinn's being "mature" but god i wish he didn't blabber on for 20 minutes and just said what he really feels because the implications are pretty clear anyway. Basically Aster was being creepy and manipulative to women, especially newbies. Got it.
@kresentiaadela9489
@kresentiaadela9489 7 күн бұрын
i can say he's actually immature, because he's not like adult who likes to hide things, he just say what he need to say
@BubbaBearsFriend
@BubbaBearsFriend 7 күн бұрын
Quinn is wrong. Witnessing harassment makes it one's business. Turning a blind eye to it just allows it to continue. It's quite obvious that he was instructed to apologize, but he did it in a way that confirmed his witnessing and not approving of the alleged harasser's behavior towards women in general. I doubt that's what management was expecting.
@jaydenlour123
@jaydenlour123 4 күн бұрын
imagine defending a predator😂😂
@JoyceKim-j1n
@JoyceKim-j1n 3 күн бұрын
Instructed by who? He's not in a corporation anymore (I'm pretty sure)
@srdjan455
@srdjan455 8 күн бұрын
For a guy who doesn't want to get involved, he sure is getting involved.
@crimsonachan6676
@crimsonachan6676 8 күн бұрын
So what's the reason you were collabing with him less than two weeks before your graduation, Mr. 39daph's friend?
@chaeripie888
@chaeripie888 8 күн бұрын
They were in the same gen. It would cause drama if he collabed with everyone from his gen before graduating excluding aster.
@Boywithglasses-ok4qw
@Boywithglasses-ok4qw 8 күн бұрын
​@@chaeripie888Yeah like His job literally forces him to play with his colleagues And knowing Nijisanji, even though he might not like it they would force him anyway.
@borpaLick
@borpaLick 8 күн бұрын
collabs don’t tell everything about two streamers’ relationship, it’s just part of their job. it was probably an obligation on his hand to collab with his genmates because he was about to graduate.
@ponygrrrl
@ponygrrrl 8 күн бұрын
Because it was his job??
@Victor-mi2py
@Victor-mi2py 8 күн бұрын
least shallow sister take
@ceresbane
@ceresbane 8 күн бұрын
Honestly Quinn just comes off as using this as an opportunity to make himself relevant again and proceed to make this about himself.
@AA-ed6ek
@AA-ed6ek 8 күн бұрын
Lol.
@BRBingeDrinker
@BRBingeDrinker 8 күн бұрын
Bud this just sounds like someone who's giving his own experience with the person in question. I'm sorry you think every single thing is about "becoming relevant" or some nonsense.
@holographicwing
@holographicwing 8 күн бұрын
He's like 22 he impulsively tweeted. it's not that deep.
@kresentiaadela9489
@kresentiaadela9489 7 күн бұрын
probably ? well it sure hard to receive all that backslash and hatred from someone who cant handle the truth, who in the right mind want that kind of attention ?
@JoyceKim-j1n
@JoyceKim-j1n 3 күн бұрын
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