Raising the Bar for Realistic Milsim Yet Again

[@karmakut]

Some highlights from our recent MILSIM PvP events. We're running another test at 6:00 PM PST tomorrow: discord.gg/6pHTe2Jf?event=1054538473681473586

[@chadhudson7753]

Just wanted to say thank you for helping me get through yet another work day. Been hard without my kids these past couple years. Especially around Christmas. And thank you to all the people who post youtube videos and bring a little bit of entertainment to the world. Whether you like them or not, someone likes what they're doing. Keep it up man. Hope you have a merry Christmas and a great new year.

[@ngonzales3781]

Any tests that will be later? I dont get off till 7 most days.

[@adafutures8657]

@@ngonzales3781 +1

[@trenchgun]

If you're interested in force-on-force style TvTs, you could look into joining one of Arma Finland's bi-monthly PvP missions with a KOG squad. I've played a handful with several different units and its generally really good. Usually they get about 120 players, company vs company level engagements. Pretty good attitudes from attendees as well, very much a "wargaming" vibe rather than ultra competetive.

[@life_is_gr8]

this looks fun i'd redownload arma to play, would it be possible to play on the U.S. team against the 100 other players like karma did?

[@EzekielDeLaCroix]

"We're taking it a whole new level. One-life, IRL PvP." - karmakut a year from now chasing that intense adrenaline rushing near death high.

[@Girvo747]

“So here we are on the frontlines in Bakhmut…”

[@EzekielDeLaCroix]

@@Girvo747 Can you imagine him posting a selfie still with half his head blown off and still not being satisfied.

[@exudeku]

@@EzekielDeLaCroix and his chipped head get miraculously healed by wrapping bandages on his unharmed arm

[@RellimBeats]

"I was chasing a new mil-sim, but said lets drop the sim aspect of it"

[@Awesomeguy614]

He ends up joining the war in Ukraine against the Russians.

[@dorsets9295]

05:50 good old arma. Exploding cars, gun shots, grenades & the AI villager just casually wandering through it all

[@mosthole]

Bar raised

[@Decoy504]

You'd be surprised how many people walk away from a Hellfire strike lol

[@dorsets9295]

@@Decoy504 do they usually wander through it casually though. No panicking🤣🤣

[@jbed6]

too realistic. people walking around their homes like "what the fuck" even happens in police bodycam shit

[@Decoy504]

@@dorsets9295 that usually meant they are just dazed/in shock lol

[@Sky-vm3qw]

Loved that game. Honestly the last push that KOG did on our second Cache was probably the most hellish part of that operation for OPFOR. Trying to get those who had died back to the front lines from a respawn point roughly 2 - 4 Km away was a nightmare. But it really put it into consideration about playing it safe, and considering so many different angles of attack. GG bois.

[@rhaegars84]

Really love what you're making here Karma! I can really tell how passionate you are about this project just by your voice!

[@kennanobrien797]

That drone strike at 5:12 downed like 7 people, including me lol

[@lando1gamez473]

Noob momento

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[@Maa_aaV]

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[@chuttbeeks2716]

@@_._._._._._._._._._._._._.____ I am homeless, I am gay, I have AIDS, I'm new in town...

[@evanmclean4893]

This is probably the closest you can get to *real world* in a video game that I’ve seen, some moments of this video felt like they had genuine training value! Going to have to jump into a test if I get chance

[@mosthole]

*slightly nudges tank with atv and sends it flying* woah so real

[@Momo14198]

@@mosthole That stuff isn't that important. Im the Bundeswehr, when I was there, Joimt Fire Support used a modifed version of the arma platform for training.

[@evanmclean4893]

@@Momo14198 I’ve just come back from some training with the bundeswehr, specifically with a heavy company of the fallschirmjäger you guys are top blokes 🇩🇪👍

[@evanmclean4893]

@@mosthole yeah agree 😂 I just meant the use of supporting elements & even the proper use of voice procedure over the nets, simple shit actually work related

[@houdiniairsoft157]

This concept is very cool. Reminds me of a game they used to play at Paintball Jungle in California, where the resident team played against all the pickup players. Was generally brutal but always fun.

[@pragmaticplatypus]

Wow I used to be at paintball jungle at least once a month in the early 2000s and I remember those games

[@Eratrius]

how fast is fast baby. being a hornet in those games was some of the most fun I have ever had.

[@EntryLevelLuxury]

AH nice bro, I'm a hornet! Granted that was back in like 2002, but hornets 4lyfe XD

[@Wacky_Tobacky]

I'm so excited to see in a couple of years what kind of cool experiences you're going to create for the next-gen Arma game. As always excellent work Karma!

[@lavaavalon]

the guys in the specter gunship are so chill, they are so far away the opfor probably cannot even see it

[@rafiyumahmood2446]

Specter gunship crews are always so chill in the real world, funny how it translates the same way to the game

[@DrSpoon-iu4hs]

@@rafiyumahmood2446 exactly my 2?best buds one was a air tanker and 1 was a gunship operator

[@Raccoonaspie]

Arma 3 still looks like PowerPoint presentation instead of a videogame.

[@asovietplaytpus5828]

Sandbox power point simulator

[@WhoIsJohnGaltt]

? what does this mean

[@aboriani]

Im glad it does… it keeps fortnite and cod players away

[@DaniBoy-cb8le]

@@aboriani What tf are fortnite and cod players gonna do with the movement that arma 3 has lmao

[@aboriani]

@@DaniBoy-cb8le complain and whine about the movement

[@p.a.g3357]

Arma 3 is still the most insane looking milsim. I love how little glow and shine there is, makes it look more gritty and real.

[@calipto4605]

That's because the engine is so old it doesn't support glare lol

[@night5738]

it looks like a potato

[@analogsamurai9576]

@@calipto4605 good it always looks like garbage lmao

[@blocksberg3758]

@@analogsamurai9576 i cant be the only one that actually think this looks gorgeous?

[@Hansberch]

@@blocksberg3758 I mean, it was still perfect maybe up until half a decade ago. Nowadays it is kinda...

[@sharkbaII]

Dude karma this is actually next level wargaming, So much elements from realworld engagement can be brought into a match like this! Bravo!

[@Academixgaming]

this was so sick, from you the guys working the badly wounded in the field to your boys in the sky calling enemy positions. that was awesome.

[@woo9194]

Forces everyone to work and cooperate together more this way. Theory: games like these will actually help people realize no one should go about life thinking that there's another one afterwards. Live life to the fullest but also live life strategically.

[@Arukorstza]

Never gonna stop anyone from things about that pie in the sky. NO matter how much life sucks there's always something better that comes after. Whether that be nothingness, hell or some other afterlife.

[@MrAwesomecar123]

These events are so much fun, I'm looking forward to the next one

[@SidShakya]

Now this is a true realistic sim with actual humans shooting back and no one with the Zeus god complex

[@spiritorange8325]

I’ve ever actually seen that in random zeus servers if you join an actual unit It’s very unlikely something like that happens

[@ahuman2954]

This is an awesome concept .. Do ur best .. the only way to experience a full Arma 3 simulated experience of a real battle wish u the best luck 🤞 .. keep us posted and dedicate more to it its amazing

[@harrylee9289]

This is what I call realistic. All team efforts no lone wolf. It's really entertaining to watch.

[@brielslovak2649]

Imagine a suit you can put on that shocks you wherever you get shot. Or things that you set up a few feet away from and surrounding you that mimic the temperature and wind of your area. It can blow hot air on your side as you run past a burning tank, super cold air as you go through snow, the windier it gets the harder they blow etc.

[@Biscuits645]

They have a version of a suit like that for VR. Although it vibrates rather than shocks.

[@AgeofPC]

One life PVPs are some of the best ARMA experiences i ever had, really wish there was more of it

[@Tequn9q]

Amazing feel on this one! Hope to see more of it - or join if possible! Sidenote: Great advice to start practicing Advanced movement system for PvP

[@derez4902]

could not be more right about vaulting, mods can actually get the movement decently smooth.

[@Tequn9q]

​@@derez4902 Mhm! I saw Karma got stuck at a ruin while being shot at. Think that would be the perfect time to just hit space. Only downside maybe is that the slide looks a bit wierd - as you can change direction in the middle of the skid, but from the inside it looks really nice. And not to forget the roll to take away the damage from jumping from an elevation.

[@mattstever7387]

The cool thing is we use this exact system all the time in the fleet marine force. Vbs 3 and other simulations help fire support training when we’re not going live.

[@antonyab84]

Bro has been the principal Mil-Sim breaktrougher (i do not know if that's a word but now it is)

[@MelordJenkins]

Bro this is absolutely awesome, I say 20/10. This was amazing. You need to try this more, show have someone record in Zeus to show the enemy player tactics. This needs to get more notoriety

[@JB-gm3su]

Great video. 2 things. 1. Who says Aferm on the radio. I've never heard that in combat. Lol it was just roger over or roger out. 2. when your monitoring your troops overhead the bird stays with those troops and helps them avoid patrols or identifies, marks, and / or destroys opfor closest to the friendlies. The bird never leaves his troops to scout anything else. That's why you have more than one. Other than that great job. I need to get this game so I can play

[@osmanbarber3655]

Man, when I build my new PC and finally get this game I can't wait to hop in on things like these in my free time :)

[@thebattlefieldproject6013]

This seems like a good continuation of the Specops gamemode you proposed where one team was high tech vs a larger team of low tech. Great job! Love the video.

[@CRebel-by9fb]

The OpFor shouldn’t be allowed to respawn either. They already have overwhelming numbers and it would further encourage tactical play for everyone involved.

[@Slim_Ch4rles]

I think BlueFor still outmatches them by having recon, NVGs, better small arms and of course CAS at their beck and call so I think at least 2 or 3 lives not just 1 edit: beckon call -> beck and call

[@WhatsY0UTUB3]

@@Slim_Ch4rles should be beck and call, not beckon call btw

[@Dom-2332]

@@WhatsY0UTUB3beckoning call.

[@Slim_Ch4rles]

@@WhatsY0UTUB3 thanks that's actually good to know

[@storm14k]

This is some good shit. Never have the time these days to get into something so involved but definitely cool to watch.

[@thekillerkreeper3046]

my friend was a part of this, and his explanation of what happened only excited me for this video. Cant wait to see karma get domed

[@gabrielchcosta]

This is awesome. One life against Players is a whole other world.

[@spritemultipack]

Soy Karmakut : Has the best equipment money can buy, air support directly covering him , says shit like 'enveloped' and kills no one. GIGACHAD RPG Gunner : His weapons are 20 years older than he is, no cover whatsoever , says durka durka and kills at least 5 with one shot.

[@ggtt2547]

Damn that was absolutely amazing. Well done. Please keep us posted on the project!

[@SlightyStuupid]

I've always wondered why milsim games never have a 1 life type of game mode. Feel like it makes the most sense and is fun. Like a large scale search and destroy, or objective control.

[@Snowi_93]

Back in the day I had the idea for a SV with a no-instant-death script, but the player could only be revived at base, so you'd had to coordinate medevacs and such.The 'limbo' state would obviously have a countdown until permadeath. Could never completely try it out because there weren't a lot of us to play.

[@matiasbolig9040]

My favourite youtuber... Never stop making this! Cheers from argentina!

[@JeffNoel]

An idea for another scenario (although I don't know how feasible it would be): CQC inside a highrise or a bunker compound. 2-3 teams would be deployed against the enemy, which would be spread across dozens of rooms and corridors of various sizes, potential tripwires in dead-ends, etc. and the objective is to gather a specific intel in an unknown room (far from starting points, its approximate location could be known from the get go) and gtfo. Alarms could be triggered and more enemies could come (players ready to join)

[@Zorpazorp]

Far out mate this is fantastic. Lovely work.

[@cavalierr8029]

You should do a co event with global conflicts. They regularly host coop missions and tvt (team vs team) missions every weekend. Would be cool to see a collaboration

[@puotek]

Im suprised this hasn’t sprung to life and got popular earlier in arma. This is also perfect for things like doing ops with other clans than might even use a diffrent language

[@voidfalse]

This thing was there since the original Operation Flashpoint. It's just that this channel excels at advertising and video editing

[@EntryLevelLuxury]

The Friday Night Fighjt (FNF) group lead by the 2nd MRB hosts EU/NA 3-hour event (3x 1 hour rounds) every Friday. Nets up to 120 players not counting the streamers. Solo players are welcome, though the NA event is invite-only. Look up their discord!

[@butterm1lk]

Guys, congratz with internet connection. In CIS we play PVP 1 Life Arma events almost for a decade. Starting from OF then on A2 and now on A3

[@Carlos-vg5tp]

ONE live all the way, love to feel the fear in the voice

[@smoore6461]

I think this is a great idea, cant wait to see how this plays out going forward. Keep up the Good work sir!

[@arka181]

Would you mind posting your planning docs (phasing timelines, objs, etc.)? These mimic real-world tactical/operational planning docs pretty nicely and I'd like to use them as reference points.

[@f1rebreather123]

We got lots of good stuff right now. Dynamic directions on squad is back, we got this. Fun stuff

[@gunnerwilliamsofficial6942]

Karma, you probably won’t see this, but would you consider conventional forces vs. conventional forces? Maybe to balance, only give certain command elements like SLs and commanders blueforce trackers? Or a late Cold War fight like 90s or 80s where you have to strictly use maps to navigate without gps? I think it would be a little more fun for the players since, from personal experience, playing as a non conventional op for can sometimes be frustrating.

[@richpryor9650]

Some critiques, firstly, whenever SOF does operations like this they always have another squad or two doing over watch from a nearby hill. It would've most likely prevented your huge clump of guys from getting RPG'd.

[@TheRejected731]

Scared OPFOR engaging one another and recon by fire are two things you wouldn't ever get out of the AI, so this is beautiful to me. Then there are elements like the ability to hear a pair of helos nearby and know that likely means infantry being inserted, to register a potential mass cas as an opportunity to assault, and the ever-present "this is how I would attack me" thinking that leads to situations the AI could only make happen by accident. Really the only drawback to human OPFOR is that, in the timeline of an op, they always know an attack is coming.

[@MetalMachine95]

First rule of TCCC is to return fire and neutralize the threat before you administer care to the wounded. Something you didn't do at 11:47 which is why you were quickly killed.

[@ghostmortem5650]

what an amazing idea. i cant wait to see it polished man. something i would love to play with friends

[@K_Pyle]

Dang I was really hoping I got those two legit low crawled for like 100 meters to get up to them 9:35

[@Rozzco]

No matter how hard you tried to find something else Arma still is the man.

[@hitchcock_]

i love the cas element, their comms are really good. i wish we could combine arma (for ground units, with ace) and dcs for aircraft. that would be my wet dream :D

[@cabboflyer1076]

16:19 hey das me, the one getting blown up...

[@ollie3108]

3:12 what is that mod making the nvg look more pixelated

[@IvGorin]

Russian arma community plays perfectly balanced pvp arma games since arma 2. 150 vs 150, mostly established squads. Well-designed missions, 30-min planning and about 1.5-hour per mission. I was really surprised that western community doesn't really do that en masse. Check Tushino or RedBear games

[@kevingnomen6092]

Duuuuude this is so sick! I can feel the difference in the gameplay just from watching it. I need a pc bad so I can get in on this

[@sethstone545]

Hey @karmakut I love your content and I hope you have a great weekend

[@arifmeighan3162]

Radio during the AC-130 is so cool very realistic

[@king124kine]

I made a fully persistent PvP setup with building and full logistics. Basically ran it like 2 seperate units going against each other. Problem was getting enough people. You basically need double the people of a regular unit to do PvP.

[@29thEricksen]

Arma 3 PvP is out there you've just got to know where to look!

[@orphic7512]

Hi Karma! Happy holidays :D

[@Demonat865]

Makes me think of this tv show, Special Operations or something where a dude was solo infiltrating some tactical simulation and it was pretty corny, but the idea was awesome.

[@Black-kn9gt]

10:15 what is that mod makes your vision blurry on weapon?

[@HypeBeast764]

Hell yeah. Now the stakes are really high. This is dope.

[@marcusaurelius5560]

@Karmakut these JTACs are killing it. Heard plenty of JTACs in my time and these guys are 100% on par with ability to spit out those 9-lines and routing instructions. Of course, they're sitting in a computer chair with minimal external stressors, but even with that, what they're doing is insanely difficult if you're not professionally trained and requires a heck of a lot of effort in a dynamically changing situation. Good on you man, hope these dudes are the real deal and are getting some legit training out of this. I'd love to see this kind of thing implemented in training I'm used to. Edit: one thing they do miss pretty consistently is giving a timeline with type-3. I heard plenty of "cleared to engage," but in the 9-line, the engagement has to be given a window, called an engagement window, from x-y, usually from CAS TOT to Plus 5 or whatever.

[@edgymememaker2602]

Wym there’s barely any actual 9-lines being said, for the most part they’re going straight from gameplan to correlation, maybe sat for the Air Force, idk Marine corps jtacs do things a bit different and we do things more doctrinal 🤷‍♂️

[@marcusaurelius5560]

@@edgymememaker2602 I thought I heard a few gameplan/9-lines given. They may have skipped a few things, but for civilians, that's pretty dang good. I used to train young 0861s CAS employment as a JFO/non-JTAC, and these boys are doing it way better then some of those cats did haha. I'm no JTAC, but from the many I've worked with, I'm saying this ain't too shabby, all things considered.

[@fuyoki_san2692]

I loved this style of op, instead of AI it actually challenges blue-four to think and stay on thier toes

[@ForestBlue7]

Good to see HeavyLift Gaming with y’all. Fun watch, keep it up!

[@fry8362]

anyone have any clue what mod is used from 0:10 to 0:14 , it looks like an alternate combat pace animation mod and it has my eye, if anyone knows anything let me know please

[@amp4105]

thaiboy goooooooooon

[@BANDERSJR]

I feel like to make it a little more fair, hide a stinger or two somewhere in the AO so the low tech guys, if they come upon them, can knock a drone down every once in a while.

[@erer4011]

Now we need a VR version of this 🙏

[@mosaclipz6549]

those callouts were going crazy

[@sayjack1328]

What MED setting are you guys using? Like basic ACE or more advanced settings?

[@Amnpaterson]

I'm impressed with the comms. Makes me feel like im back in Iraq.

[@nazarvaskiv5030]

How hard is to join the unit and participate in those events ?

[@karmakut]

The unit it self is invite only. The events are open to all

[@nazarvaskiv5030]

@@karmakut thanks for the answer

[@TheCharlieFoxtrot]

@@bushman4689this is factually incorrect

[@arctic3038]

Cool vid but all the comms are nuts..

[@drgog4300]

Hoooly damn. This looks amazing and I'll def. try to get in on that even as an insurgent

[@vahakm8320]

Intense and realistic , soldier proceeds to walk while looking down at his own feet and right through a tree 😂

[@Uladh88]

does the public players divide into squads and have any command and control or are they just randomly moving around not communicating

[@gennarocresta7275]

I love how your thumb is literally in the flashlight

[@RavenTacticalGaming]

Once again Karma, My community would love to play against yall in a PVP scenario but seems I get overlooked.

[@gr1m375]

Join the kill kog event 😊

[@RavenTacticalGaming]

​@@gr1m375 The issue is I have approx. 20-30 people in my community and I dont want to "hog the slots".

[@gr1m375]

@@RavenTacticalGaming lol trust me you won’t hog anything

[@RavenTacticalGaming]

@@gr1m375 Well I'll put a Ping out to my community then. My guys like playing as OPFOR anyway as we play as a Traditional Line unit in our normal Stuff.

[@appelsap8219]

i have always thought to myself, what about a game where you have only 1 live, thats it. The game could be 100 hours long, or the game could be 30 minutes, depends on how you play it. But the one life aspect would give so much more paranoia and stress, it would be very interesting to see, this comes really close to that experience and i dare say i might see my "dream" come true

[@NexVoidGaming]

I appreciate you making the ease of entry so low, with no dlc or mid requirements.

[@notweaking5892]

Do you guy ever do arma reforger events?

[@gutenheim9371]

Love the audio in this

[@vanishaway]

This type of rp is why I bought Arma 3, but I never got to do it because of some difficulties. I'd love to try playing in one of these events in the future!

[@AG-is5vv]

damn the coms are crazy here....nothing like dayz lol. "yeah i dont have a job, gotta piss brb, i just got a dog, OH SHIT IM DEAD I GOT SHOT FROM THAT HOUSE"

[@NoFear1979]

Is the FLIR cam from drone or heli?

[@nohands7126]

Dude I would love more of these

[@TheTrueGrimReaper]

I found this early game in development called Direct Contact on steam seems right up your alley. It's not out yet but there's early access it seems like a pretty cool concept of running ops in a single player/co-op enviroment using a heli to deploy on missions from your FOB which you can upgrade a long with your character. Reminiscent of arma 3.

[@austinporter6701]

This was exactly like the gamemode on operation flash point dragon rising. This was just on alarger scale

[@EntryLevelLuxury]

Hit up the 29th ID for some good pvp toimes, and come hit up Friday Night Fights for exactly this. Been doing it for over half a decade.

[@FreshBoxLive]

Bohemian better be paying attention to this for Arma 4!

[@WrecklessLAW]

I don't know if you've ever seen the show "Special Ops Mission" with Will Willis? It's cheesey AF, but this gamemode would really suit that kind of thing.

[@KombatKrab]

This is great. I would love to play this mode.

[@claymore7773]

Great Concept!

[@StereotypicalShea]

idk if there's a mod for this as I don't play Arma 3, but could add some sort of Compass mechanic on NVGs that's hardcoded/zeroed to True-North at 0 degrees for call-outs kinda like they've done with Apex & COD:Warzone. In real life we use wrist compasses on the non-trigger hand and go off that for calling out enemy positions as well as regular land-nav. Probably would work on / go over some way to get regular patrol formations taught & normalized especially for ground-based combatants in heavy fire zones. Also, just work on Radio comms / standard op procedures all round for radios. This was pretty solid tho. Idk what loadouts Arma has, but it looked like you had an IFAK, Flak+Sappies, and Kevlar type equipment nonetheless. Get some archangel support to breakdown long/lat grid boxes & someone to go over CCP setup, also communicating suppressing fire at X degrees, and perhaps some sort of drag mechanic for downed characters. I'd list more but I'm half asleep, looks good tho.

[@demondefiled468]

I wish I could find communities like this.

[@Joshprout1776]

House flooded during hurricane Ian. Soon as I have a house that’s livable in February this will be first thing I do.