Is the 2025 Toyota Crown Signia a 2-row midsize luxury SUV worth the PRICE?

FIRST DRIVE: The all new Crown Signia is here and Toyota has some surprises. On the outside you will discover full LED lighting, 21in wheels and standard AWD. On the inside you will welcomed by a spacious interior, 12.3in infotainment screen and digital gauge cluster. Under the hood is a 2.5L inline-4 pared with an electric motor to produce 240HP. Is the 2025 Toyota Crown Signia a 2-row midsize SUV that is WORTH the price?
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[@RaitisRides]

Morning guys & gals! I’ve had to wait a long time to finally post the first drive of the Crown Signia! Make sure to let Toyota know what you think about this all new SUV. HAVE A GREAT DAY!

[@DarkJediChrisG-1425]

The 2025 Camry Cross!

[@RaitisRides]

@@DarkJediChrisG-1425I love what you did there!

[@davidvanaert6934]

Good morning Joe! Great review - I think this will be our next car. It checks all the boxes for me. I actually prefer the exterior looks of this vehicle over a Lexus. Thanks for your attention to detail, and I really appreciate your sense of humour. Cheers

[@Vannakyen85]

I hope they have a Hybrid Max option in the future😊 Thanks for the review😊

[@angel-pu6dh]

bring the real crown sedan

[@tjyoung4211]

Considered this, but just bought my wife a 2025 Lexus NX350h Premium with a bunch of nice options for less than that Limited. She LOVES it!

[@tamilhoward9708]

Food for thought.

[@gosman949]

should have gotten the Luxury with Mark Levinson speakers!

[@tjyoung4211]

@@gosman949 meh...not worth the extra cost to us. The sound system it comes with sounds great!

[@ballathug8404]

Nx is just a rav4

[@tjyoung4211]

@@ballathug8404 lol go drive one...we've driven both...the NX350h is infinitely better in every way...

[@ELPJM09]

The instrument cluster shows a fuel range of 562 miles on a full tank. That is impressive. Price is a little high but I think Toyota knows majority of buyers will be older who will still purchase regardless. The best thing about the Crown is they are built in Japan.

[@christopherclark6383]

The Crown is quite nice and maybe slightly better than normal, but with Raitis Rides doing this presentation this car is now Badass and your style is “The Best” never compromise. I think you are number one in this category

[@mickeybrumfield764]

The Toyota people know how to make a car for the US market that is destined to be popular. This Crown with the low top that you can just pile all kinds of stuff on top is something people are going to like. Simply a great review, Joe, you nailed this Toyota Crown.

[@RaitisRides]

You are the best Mickey! I really appreciate!

[@mickeybrumfield764]

@RaitisRides Well Joe, thank you but not quite because you're the best.

[@kaizen209]

Congrats on the 1 mil subscribers, JOE. Keep up the good work as the automotive world transitions into a new era...

[@MonicaHolly143]

I love that extra platform behind the seats useful for those who camp inside their suv

[@berniemadoff7837]

The holes are for reaching into the gear stowed in the foot wells like snacks and clothing.

[@IbHustln]

I just purchased a 2024 Venza limited, very classy and understated with all the tech you could ever want. This is too stylized imo but I think that's part of the sales problem the Venza had was being too "boring" possibly...

[@SBsupreme602]

My sales person said the trunk space was a miss w a lot of buyers specially the younger crowd but was very popular w the older crowd the Venza has a beautiful interior and outside design but this replacement (the crown insignia ) I can’t say I’m a it I prefer the outgoing Venza latest design plus it has better mpg

[@terryrichardson59]

Saw it at the car dealership this week. Gorgeous in person. People testing said it was one of the best driving crossovers they’ve driven.

[@DennisSingleton-vv5el]

I didn't think the Signia had reached the U.S. yet. Where are you located?

[@DarkJediChrisG-1425]

I would really prefer to see the Crown Sport brought to the U.S. next Toyota

[@RaitisRides]

You and me both Chris!

[@juliepoitinger5030]

I love the look of the Crown Sport. I wish it would come to the US, too.

[@Flashblade]

It's a Porsche rip-off.

[@El_Gato718]

That Sport is a work of art and it’s beautiful

[@nevercedes2070]

Don’t lose hope, we might get it as a new CHR

[@blueflameSM]

I really like the look of the Signia. I do wish the ground clearance was just a bit bigger, but it’s a nice car.

[@Nameless-lk8ld]

Thank you!! That was my first reaction. 6.1 is nothing.

[@hondajacka2]

@@Nameless-lk8ld Saids 6.7 on the toyota website. It's borderline ok for me.

[@daynevickers1079]

I must say, that is the best looking Toyota EVER, IMHO. Fluid, muscular and toned. Congrats to Toyota for getting rid of the strafing lines they normally use. Thanks, Joe, as always, job well done!

[@cbotten106]

Certainly, a nice job by the styling department at Toyota.

[@Vian_Cheung]

I ❤ the front fascia of this Crown Signia. I like Toyota new design language, pretty cool for me 😁 Thank you so much Joe & Steven 🙏

[@RaitisRides]

You are so very welcome Vian!

[@tmac2705]

Loved hearing your old man’s wise words about having to use all 12.3” 😂 Please don’t change, Joe!

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for letting me share it all with you!

[@cardo1111]

Always a comprehensive review. Regarding the wheel opening moldings, like the gloss black, a nice contrast over body colored moldings. They don't look cheap like textured plastic moldings. Agreed zonk to the bean counters for cheaping out on hood struts.

[@2JPOBRII2]

One item you missed, if you have a handfull to go in the trunk, you can wave your leg near the right rear corner and the liftgate will open after you here a beep. I just received mine as soon as it arrived, the Limited is very Limited, most dealers around the San Francisco area have plenty of the XLE but not the Liimited. When I saw the local Toyota dealership had one in transit from Japan, I put a deposit on it, I arrived and it is great. The Navigation system has been improved in that my previous 2023 Crown took a few minutes for the voice system to boot up, so you couldn't put your destination into it until it booted up. This Crown Signia so far boots up right away.

[@MR3DDev]

Kirk Kreifels: Lets test the MPG and see how much we can save on gas Joe Raiti: ON THROTTLE!! YEAAAAH!!!! PS: love both channels

[@RaitisRides]

You are so very awesome! Thanks for the great support!

[@marianchapla-breault4198]

I'd like to hear a comparison of front seats' comfort adjustability & internal road noise for Signia Ltd vs RX. Also a saddle/tan interior option. The exterior is a win all the way around.

[@alexcara5547]

Great car, 2.5 L engine is one of the best . It doesn't have a impresive power but it's still reliable engine, oil change every 5000 miles and do not overfill, the oil must be between medium and full line .

[@Anon_Tsking]

Good morning Joe ! Awesome content as always

[@MikeySoft]

Are there any issues if this hybrid car is parked for 2 or 3 months in a hot garage near 100° while away on a long vacation?

[@c.t.812]

It’s not a SUV - it’s a wagon!

[@nickpapagiorgio2253]

Thats what I said

[@garysenn1115]

Bite your tongue!! Station wagons are FUGLY! The CROWN is Beautiful!!

[@BigWolf_87]

My sentiments exactly. This is not an SUV....... Definitely a wagon.

[@cbotten106]

It's a TUV: Toyota Utility Vehicle. I stole that from Ferrari.

[@BigWolf_87]

@@cbotten106 that is innovative.

[@wisamputrus6196]

Great job Joe and Steven. In fact I like the gloss black not the flat black around the wheel well and the bottom because it blends with inside of the wheel well. Looks sharp with the red of course.

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for letting us bring this to you!

[@loxety]

Beating out The Fast Lane Car channel on this one! Great review!

[@RaitisRides]

I am so glad that I can bring it to you! I really appreciate it.

[@forcedhaircut]

sure hope they're not lying on paper data with this one bc i would buy that in a heartbeat

[@newsmedia-one9756]

I Think I will keep my 2021 Venza Limited........ NO HEADS UP DISPLAY, NO POWER STEERING WHEEL THAT'S A BIG ZONK FOR ME....... Amazing review Joe!!

[@smashtankful]

You need a power steering wheel? What is with these comments 🙄

[@newsmedia-one9756]

@@smashtankful it’s just luxury touches of the interior that were taken away. If you know, you know.

[@smashtankful]

@@newsmedia-one9756 no I’m poor I’ll never know such luxuries

[@Glideslopes]

Nice review Joe. Finish Line Red sure does pop.

[@RaitisRides]

You better believe it!

[@keepingup2952]

Is the AWD independent, or is there an actual driveshaft to the rear wheels?

[@toddgrimm9326]

love the venza replacement, but avoid the panoramic glass rooftops, they crack easily and very expensive to repair. check your glass policy b4 buying.

[@dondonaldson1684]

They introduced with this, but I foresee an F sport coming with full handling package, more HP and body trim to match.

[@johnheintz982]

I think it has its niche for the vehicle segment. Some of the small things you “zonked” are what keep the lines blurred between Toyota and Lexus. I’m not a fan of the rubber band feeling in the CVT or e-CVT transmissions - and the reliability concerns. I feel for the price you could also find the features that are “missing” in a Mazda crossover or SUV. Those Mazdas definitely hit higher than their price suggests when it comes to sportiness and premium interior quality feel. The Crown versus a Lexus? I think the Crown will be $10-15k cheaper than the Lexus. If someone is paying cash that’s up to them. As far as financing goes I’m a big proponent of leasing vehicles. My guess is that you could lease a Lexus for less than the Toyota. Even if it weren’t less the price difference would be so negligible I’d still take the Lexus. Great review! 👌🏻

[@noelsilva8887]

Like the color. Toyota is on fire 🔥

[@Adam_Star_0]

Finally the long waited signia ❤❤

[@RaitisRides]

I hope it has been worth the wait!

[@Adam_Star_0]

@@RaitisRides totally worth it 💯

[@cbotten106]

I was waiting for just a mere sign and, next thing I know, the whole Signia dropped.

[@marianchapla-breault4198]

Can you give some notes about how quiet the ride is in comparison to the Hyundai Tucsan Ltd hybrid

[@dantewhiterose1958]

I have a question Joe. I have the 2024 Venza limited and I just watched the new video on the 2025 Crown Signia. If they both have the same engine, the 2.5, why does the crown have more hp than my Venza? Thanks Dante

[@nevercedes2070]

Why everyone hating on rear wipers, I love em

[@stratolestele7611]

I think this Crown has a great stance. Love the tire/wheel combo. Great looking profile from all angles - except when I get to the front end. Maybe I could adjust, but I'm not sure. It's the grill. Just not diggin the molded look. I like the rear black panel. It makes it look, for lack of a better word, "cooler" and less 'suburbanite mom'. But maybe for the weekend when the hubby's driving it, maybe they could have gone with black satin - at least on the lower area where it bends around. That's going to be an area of a lot of dust, mud, road spray, whatnot. Hahaha, the "my dad always told me..."!! Nicely done, Joe. 🤣👏

[@adamstrachn]

Pretty dope looking! Very attractive indeed! Thanks for the video my friend 💯

[@juliepoitinger5030]

Another great review by Joe. I’m waiting on my 2025 Crown Platinum sedan in Bronze Age (not the bi-tone). It should be here by the end of July. I wanted the 2025 Camry until I sat in it and had to struggle to get back out. It sits way to low for an older lady with back and knee problems.

[@gloriousgearhead5367]

I’ll wait for a year to see customer reviews. Looks 🔥

[@noelsilva8887]

Nice design especially that front.

[@Sajikibara]

Really like this car, if they bring the sport engine from Japan over in this, I'll certainly be grabbing one

[@GiantMaster]

What a good YTber for Toyota! Equipped with older battery technology, nickel metal hydride, it can then be emphasized the focus on reliability. Funny! 🤣

[@scottab36]

The official body type for the Crown Signia is "Wagon". 😉 I purchased mine and the first road trip was from Martinsburg, WV to Mystic, CT. I drove no more than 5 MPH over the speed limit and the fuel economy for the trip was 40 MPG. It's a dream to drive

[@RaitisRides]

Not to sure about that.

[@scottab36]

@@RaitisRides I emailed you an image if the spec sheet.

[@BK-oc6lb]

So the ‘25 Crown has up to the Platinum trim which comes with the 340hp Hybrid MAX 2.4 liter. For the Signia, the top trim is a Limited and you get a 2.5 liter rated at 240hp? What’s the MSRP for this (it’s not listed on Toyota’s website yet)? The aforementioned Crown’s MSRP is around 57k, so I would think the Signia is going to be mid/low 60’s MSRP which, IMO is high, given what you get vs the competition…

[@RaitisRides]

I appreciate you sharing that great thoughts process!

[@emeyer6963]

Lexus prices for a Toyota.

[@flyvtec04]

Thx for the detailed review, Joe! You rock! I like how Toyota designed this CUV. It looks nice, especially with those 21 inch wheels. The trunk looks big enough where I can put 4 golf bags when me and my boys get a hall pass from our wives to play golf! 😁 I’m ok with the black bumper in the back. It slims the rear a little bit. Not sure about the ECVT tho. I’m not a big fan of CVT transmissions. But I do like the 39/37 mpg numbers, especially with the gas prices in SD. Did you grab lunch at Jamul casino, BTW? 😁 This car is on my Top 5. We are looking to get a new ride before end of year. Thx again. 🤙🏽

[@RaitisRides]

I so glad that I could bring your the details.

[@jeffs6090]

An eCVT is very different from traditional CVTs, especially the crap ones from Nissan.

[@flyvtec04]

@@jeffs6090 My wife drives a 2009 Altima 2.5L. You are 100% correct about their CVT! 👍🏼

[@ArthurBenetton]

Joe I like your consistency about hating black trim on cars. BUT here's a moment to learn a bit about car design, and this Crown Signia is the perfect example: black trim around the wheels, and on the bottom of the doors, gives the impression of ground clearance (and suspension travel). In "some" cases, like on this Crown Signia, it's actually intentional and visually beneficial. And in the case of on a Subaru, for example, the black trim of course has functional benefits of durability, but that's a different thing. I'm just talking visual proportion. And while yes, matte black plastic often is a cheap-car thing that saves costs and looks crappy, in certain specific cases like this one, it's likely the designer's choice. Squint. Look what the black does - on a car like this Crown Signia, which is fighting hard to be called a "crossover" and not a "station wagon", it's a visual trick. And why they, in this case, uses nicely-finished gloss black and not cheap matte plastic - to give you the black proportion of big wheel wells and extra ground clearance, while still feeling finished and expensive. An early, similar example is whitewall tires. Look at a car with whitewalls. Squint. It does the exact same thing, visually, as modern-day low profile tires. Great work as always and black wheel trim is still definitely a ZONK on most cars! :-)

[@mikejones-rc4lv]

Looking to buy this. I find my rav4 hybrid to be too noisey when cruising. Hope dound deadening features work. Eonder if the power mirrors have memory between driver 1 snd driver 2??? Test drive in the next 2 weeks. Suv available in november... Too cheap to buy a lexus...😊

[@darrellhorner500]

I LOVE THE RED BAR LIGHT ACROSS THE BACK... LIKE SOME DODGE VEHICLES! I WISH MORE TOYOTAS AND MORE VEHICLES IN GENERAL HAD IT!

[@igeekone]

I get that this is bigger than the Lexus NX, but the NX is a better value for the similar price.

[@MrCantBelieveit]

The question is whether this is good enough to lure me out of our Volvo XC60s. We have owned 3 XC60s and love them but getting an extra 10-12 mpg is a nice thing.

[@elsaandnoah]

I always enjoy your videos, thank you! I think the Crown Signia is a very handsome CUV-wagon. I would love it more if it had fog lights and more ground clearance like an Outback. Having said this, I love wagons! Volvo XC-90 has a lot of ground clearance I think 🤔 and looks good to me.

[@smashtankful]

It does not need fog lights due to the headlight positioning. The higher lights are daytime running lights, the actual lights are lower.

[@Lips801]

Toyota needs to advertise crowns better! Such great cars but I work at a dealer and everyone always asks “what’s this” they point at a crown.

[@suzanneflowers2230]

Love the exterior styling, great ICE, and wheels. I wish the interior had a two-tone color scheme. My friend's new Corolla is actually more attractive regarding interior color styling. Well thought out layout, especially for cargo.

[@RaitisRides]

I totally agree with the two-tone color interior

[@kovalm3]

Loving it. Thanks Joe.

[@RaitisRides]

You are so very welcome!

[@sonalmalhotra07]

You are doing work and enjoying!! 👍🏽😀😀😀

[@RaitisRides]

Thank you being on the ride with me Sonal!

[@sonalmalhotra07]

@@RaitisRides Welcome Joe

[@majed6956]

I was told by several dealers that the older demographic who bought Avalons did not like getting in and out of them. They were too low. Toyota must know this. They raised the "H" point (seating position), but the ground clearance in the Crown sedan is about the same as a Camry.

[@StrykerBeats]

Zonk that gloss black wheel well, it should match the vehicle 😀 And what’s up with the gray roof rails? Too many types of trim 😂

[@dusandestanovic5884]

Really good review, especially the driving part.

[@Hschlick84]

Toyota really making vehicles for every niche buyer and all demographics. I think its a good idea.

[@Aschoolbusandsimulatorfan]

Yes of course Joe & I think I might afford this.

[@acsquare24]

Thanks for the review, Joe. I really like the Crown Signia but am a bit confused - it's replacing Venza (more expensive) yet missing HUD, powered steering wheel, reclining 2nd-row seats, and a spare tire (despite having a larger cargo area) 🤔

[@fr3ddy1461]

As somebody whose waiting for the 4Runner, this may be a more affordable option

[@RaitisRides]

Not to sure about that!

[@nathangraham1760]

Doubtful lol

[@marioguisado2322]

Same. Almost a better option for me frankly. But do like that the 4Runner comes with the Max engine. Although I do love me a wagon.

[@NomenClature-o8s]

Are you really cross shopping this with a 4Runner?

[@fr3ddy1461]

@@NomenClature-o8s not anymore lol. Now I’m cross shopping the Mazda CX50 with the 25 4Runner. I have a feeling the 4Runner will be way out of my budget though zz

[@wisamputrus6196]

Joes is driving in Rancho San Diego towards Jamul… Did you guys stop the traffic behind you? It’s usually busy street 😊😊🤔

[@RaitisRides]

Yes we actually did!

[@philcass-m7w]

The head lights have rinse function so that channel allows the Lig to drain.

[@HunterXray]

I really like the Crown Signia. Also, Joe is the BEST!

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for having my back!

[@TrinaStephenson]

Had 7 Subarus including 4 Outbacks, one Crosstrek(least favorite), one Forester, and my original one the 1993 Impreza front wheel drive which I used studded snow tires on and it was great. I am considering this Crown Signia due to size, wagonlike bearing, awd, hybrid, and the fact that the closest Subaru dealer is 2 plus hours in every direction, but there is a Toyota dealer within 50 miles. I am like the grandparents from Calgary... but it is a little too rich for my blood and not sure about tires. I run all terrrain tires on my 2020 Outback with 75,000 miles. Bring on the Outback hybrid soon Subaru or I will have to seek alternatives as we are a one vehicle family living in the middle of nowhere and do not want to break down. Original cars in the 80's were Hondas but their CRV did not have a good enough AWD system and slipped in snow and got stuck in mud that the Subaru would have had no trouble with. Also had Civics and a Honda Wagon using studded snow tires in Vermont but now in altitude of New Mexico. A little concerned about ground clearance as well. We do not always plow or shovel our road in every snowstorm and it can have quite a bit of snow that we plow our Outback through just barely...

[@dominickirkwood]

Joe and Lori and Steve keep up the good work real true and I love the video 👍

[@ArthurBenetton]

I find this car to be very desirable. I think it makes sense - Toyota drivers are often wealthy boomers, wealthy but don't identify with the flashy Lexus label but wouldn't mind (and can afford) something nicer than their beloved Camry or Prius. And, GM had a lot of success with Oldsmobile and Buick, similarly 'not a Cadillac' for many decades in a different era - Toyota may be figuring out that same subtle market segment this time around.

[@Briangnc96]

Real leather option or rubber/fake leather? $52k for 240hp is nuts

[@AJY6396]

dayyuuuuummmm Toyota and Mazda really up their games this past few years 💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥

[@RaitisRides]

You are so very right about that!

[@Mike----]

I've had a deposit on the Signia for a couple months. Did they say anything about when the dealers will start receiving them?

[@johnerickson8785]

no heads up display on the top trim? 🤣🤣 i like the interior, though

[@c7406-q8c]

Toyota says it replace Venza…please make me understand, Why Toyota removed head up display, auto rain sensor, less ground clearance, heavier, slower, less fuel efficient than Venza. Longer, bigger than Rav4 but less cargo capacity... missing electric adjusted steering control which Venza is very convenient when you get off the car it will adjust for you to have more space and when driving it adjust back to the best driving position. Missing electric frost pano roof. Signia adds one safety feature which is very annoying facial tracking, if you not pay attention to the driving it will beep until you go crazy. Signia seems more morden look so that why price up-tag 12k than Venza? Many KZbinrs call it Lexus and SUV tickling toyota’s ear. They want to be invited next Toyota event. Staying in luxury hotel paid by Toyota which came from customers pocket!!!

[@ronaldholland2913]

This is a fine looking SUV. My wife has been driving Toyota and Lexus vehicles for years. The problem she has with the new models of most vehicles are the high window sills - can't reach out and down to use the bank and food drive-throughs, mail box, etc. These look pretty high. I know you can't address every unique issue in your reviews, but I'm just saying . . .

[@jamisonz3365]

What's the difference between this and the Venza or Highlander?

[@rickjames6867]

It's like a Camry wagon with AWD. Interesting vehicle. I am sure it would be a nice family car. Thanks for sharing and reviewing this one Joe. ☮️👍

[@cabbalaposhala]

I love the gloss black. It adds a lot of panache. This may be my next car.

[@JesseRiley-mi2tj]

The thumbnail pic kinda reminds me of an old 🗝️ dodge magnum 0:09

[@LuisUrbieta]

Joe, love the fake vents on the new 2025 Toyota Crown Signia because like I've said, it gives it style as to a plain & boring red bumper.

[@dblasphemy]

I saw that it has an EV mode button. How many miles can you go in EV mode and does it perform any differently?? Love the look of this ride!

[@RaitisRides]

That is such a great question.

[@trevorsutherland5263]

Wow, I did not like the Crown sedan at all. However this looks more like a wagon and I much prefer that shape to an SUV. I also am very happy the Prius powertrain is used here as that is guaranteed to be good for 300K miles; the new hybrid powertrain in the Tundra is having some major reliability problems. If Toyota made a TRD version of this with the hybrid MAX spec and that would be a poor man's RS6 if ever there were one.

[@RaitisRides]

That is an interesting idea Trevor!

[@bunmeng007]

As the US car volume sold in general is down, do they really another crossover model? This crown is just gonna steal market share from rav4 and highlander. Corolla cross makes sense as a subcompact but this crown is just confusing

[@CryptoEV]

Nice vehicle, but the Venza interior is Lexus quality materials compare to any Crown.

[@bmlove81]

Hey Joe, there's only one powertrain option for the Crown Signia correct?

[@Carlychege]

Very good review

[@baohoaily]

What a beauty! The Signia is nice too.

[@juliezipkin689]

It should have less gloss black (mirrors, bumper, etc.) and power folding mirrors with memory…like my original Venza (loved that)! When is this available? I want to compare it to the Mazda CX-70!

[@rocketman3158]

Subaru Outback or this? Tough call?

[@uzhoutx]

❤ Thank you Joe and Steven!❤️

[@Thebusdriverandgamermorefan]

Amazing review Joe.

[@shopwithaaron]

Any idea why the gaps above the DTRL exist...Feel a zonk coming on! Thx Joe!

[@jugb93]

It is very nice, and a great review, but I think $51,000 is a bit high for what this car brings.

[@beeslandscaping]

People get the venza before it’s gone best value

[@pt93music]

Look at a 2014 Toyota matrix and then look at this. It’s crazy to see how far Toyota has come as a brand.

[@DC-no3qt]

Isn't the reason the rear wipers are almost always at the bottom of the rear window to maximize visibility from cleaning / wiping where it's most needed? Which is at the bottom of the rear window, not at the top. Putting the wiper at the top will result in a circular wipe pattern at the bottom, losing visibility at the bottom corners. What if there's a child behind the car when you're backing up, and not looking at the monitor from the rear camera? Isn't it a matter of safety over style? Please stop zonking the bottom mounted rear wiper.

[@billwelsh5098]

I'm 6'4", will I be cramped up front?

[@RaitisRides]

Not at all

[@danieltovar6151]

I didn't see the subwoofer! does not have?

[@oldsnwbrdr]

Can always count on Raiti to be quick to the punch! I have a Crown, love it though interior is a bit drab in all black. Shame they didn’t give you one in saddle brown to review.

[@rogerborno9186]

We did not like it. My wife was ready to get Limited and myself XLE. We both test drove XLE. The car ride is boring, sorry. With a little exaggeration, it reminds me driving a bus or boat. Engine was little too loud when accelerating. Built quality is very nice, plenty of room in front and rear seats, seats very comfortable with perfect driving height. I would prefer car to be ~10 inches shorter and ~10K$ cheaper. It can be done - just replace leather with plastic and remove some luxury features - then call it "base" (and maybe call it Camry Wagon? - to avoid damage to Crown line prestige). Right after this test drive I test drove Kia Sportage Hybrid LX FWD (I don't like AWD, I hate moon roof, I prefer cloth seats). What a difference. Kia was sharp, quiet, tight cornering, almost zippy. I loved it. I am getting it in few months. For ~30K$ you get hybrid with 42mpg on regular gas - unbelievable. So wifey can get her dreamed RX hybrid (Iridium with Macadamia white real leather seats) - it is another "bus" ride in my opinion, but she loves these colors.