Raleigh Rollover - Seattle Fire Department - Seattle Video Production - Nuvelocity

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[@tonyjay6457]

Highest respect! Admitting failure is absolutely the most difficult thing ever... This department is headed for great things! Congratulations again!

[@NJCommutr]

Looking back on 43 years as a volunteer, and a driver for most of that time, there were moments when I was very lucky that this didn't happen to my apparatus. I'm thankful that this crew survived, in reasonable condition. Every firefighter and every driver/operator should be required to view this video.

[@FernandoFlores-xi3mh]

So true

[@josephdillon7420]

Lessons are learned by hands on experience!This was it for this crew. This includes everyone!!! Happy that all survived!!!

[@generybarczyk6993]

Admirably honest descriptions of a near-tragic but certainly devastating and, at the very least, profoundly embarrassing incident. Both the individuals involved and the organization that employs them ought to be commended for making this painful public appraisal. The lessons drawn and corrective training that followed show a maturity of leadership too rare in America today.

[@SpartacusColo]

Well said.

[@lisacolbert5987]

@@SpartacusColo I clicked to say “well said” .

[@DCBELLAFAIRY]

So painfully correct I miss how it was growing up! mannerisms ethics morals integrity seems to become a blur I was raised to respect our Elders never to argue with your parents let alone your siblings and as kids we would fight but oh boy howdy did we get disciplined when we did also if someone was in need of help we had to run to tell an adult

[@bell4289]

The tiller came within a few feet from hitting the street light pole…the outcome would have been far more tragic! This crew is extremely fortunate!

[@gritsngranola]

The last part of the video are points that ALL drivers should pay attention too. Thank you for your service!

[@RTD8481]

Good lesson to learn! Seatbelts! Seatbelts! Seatbelts! Effective Driver Training!!! Sometimes it takes lessons such as these to learn something valuable! Im glad these members made it through and went home to their families! I teach this in my Drivers Training class!

[@firejam78]

Can't believe the speed they were taking that turn, poor decision

[@wyattscheerer6469]

Do u wanna then to go fast or go slow during a home burning

[@firejam78]

@@wyattscheerer6469 you drive to arrive and to the conditions of the road

[@yoboi6236]

U gotta pay attention and drive 50 at least

[@SpartacusColo]

@@wyattscheerer6469 If you don't get there, then you don't get there. You can't help people if you don't get there. That speed was way fast for just a passenger car, let alone a tractor-drawn vehicle.

[@Madmac96]

@@wyattscheerer6469 If you don't get there, you are useless to the call. He was going WAY too fast for that turn. Maybe you should watch the video before commenting.

[@jamesdillard3583]

I used to be a volunteer fireman for St.helens Oregon for seventeen year and I can't believe how much things have change in the fire service.

[@kerryward6896]

holy cow guys, glad to see every one is ok ! i will def. keep this in mind when responding from now on !

[@robertf3479]

A word to the wise is sufficient. Thank you for your service.

[@kenmeinken8115]

"It was a structure fire and you always go a little faster..." WRONG! The more critical the run, the more important it is that you actually make it to the fire! When I used to drive, I probably went a little slower on a code 3 run...you have to get there!

[@alexandersalarms5380]

TYFYS

[@robertf3479]

I'm a 'civilian,' meaning my experience driving ships doesn't count for jack on this subject. I have witnessed I don't know how many times, Engine and Ladder units blowing through intersections in route to calls. I once heard a cop describe the boost to the adrenaline levels your own siren gives you, how it makes you think "gotta go gotta go gotta go!" in situations where you really should be slowing down for safeties sake. Yeah, that big diesel motor can MOVE that apparatus (seen several Engines accelerating, pretending to be sports cars,) but if YOU crash you are not doing anyone any good even if no one is hurt in the crash and all you do is bend metal. The Ladder 4 crew was very, very lucky once the laws of physics took over control from the crew ... no one died.

[@alexandersalarms5380]

@@robertf3479 When its a red light go slow when its green light go slow when its stop sign go slow dont go super slow but go slow enough that you have time to stop. thats what i tell myself

[@Sheppart92]

I can understand if they get nervous and want to get faster to an Fire if they also got a Report that People might be missing. But even then those Driver need to be calm and dont drive to fast. Its something that every Firefighter in Germany and most of Europe learns when they train for a Driving License, especially if they got a Truck License ( especially if they learn to drive rather heavy trucks over 20t for Special Vehicel)

[@robertf3479]

@@alexandersalarms5380 I hear ya shipmate. It never fails to amaze me when people blow through intersections in front of Fire or Ambulance units when it's obvious they are on a run. As I understand it, a small (older) engine can weigh 10 Tons with a full blown trailer borne ladder rig up to 45 Tons. They CAN'T stop on a dime. While it wasn't a Fire rig, I came across an accident scene where a 4x4 pickup cut off a loaded tractor-trailer. It took a while to pry what was left of the pickup, driver and passenger out from under the tractor. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to picture something like that happening with 'Big Red.'

[@xXBLACKxxHAWKXx]

Agreed, WAY to fast for that turn.

[@alphamonkeeez23]

They try their best to save your asses, so try to be a little grateful for the hard work they do for you every day for countless hours a year

[@fsmfac1]

Great job making something good out of this unfortunate accident. Glad to see all our brothers and sisters made out ok.

[@CRBeaver60]

I have been a volunteer FF for 25 years and everyone likes to drive the big rigs. Most of us have never driven anything bigger than a pickup prior to getting behind the wheel of a fire apparatus. So in our department we spend about 25% of all training hours on operation and driver skills for our apparatus. Driving skills should be as fundamental as donning your gear. Especially in a volunteer department where response is sometimes limited and anyone who shows up at the station could be tasked with getting an apparatus to the scene. We place plenty of emphasis on surviving the deadly elements of a fire, but how about how to survive the equally deadly ride to the fire. I am extremely glad that my brothers and sisters from Raleigh survived this potentially deadly lesson. Let us all learn and vow to make a real change in our driving habits and our preparations and training to make us as safe as we can. Remember...Everyone Goes Home.

[@dragster2085]

Exactly I saw the video and it's painful to watch

[@charlesrudish9147]

I can remember my FD days, back in the day (60's and 70's) fire academy's were lacking in a LOT of areas and Drivers training was pretty much a suggestion. The Lt or Capt would yell at you if you were going too fast or too slow. It's a wonder there weren't more accidents and roll overs. We should all have driver training centers like the one the FDNY puts their drivers through.

[@mattarrowwood6047]

Hell we had common sense back then

[@machia-mw1lm]

PHILADELPHIA has tillers too . NEWARK had them but newer rigs can negotiate the turns there . PHILADELPHIA streets have some extremely narrow ones however . Tillers are not in anyway obsolete .

[@2rowdygirls]

Always easier to drive from your recliner. Like the arm chair police officer that tell us what we did wrong. This is a great department and it was an accident. You don't fire or remove outstanding employees for one misstep.

[@paytonstory6352]

jrrbrts1 that was a very nice comment!

[@Nout-qu6gi]

Preventable accident

[@juliemodun4149]

Your right 2020, totally preventable! I don’t think the driver even tapped the brakes entering the intersection at least from what I can see on the video, hopefully this apparatus operator has gone back for some much needed re-training.

[@SuperBigblue19]

I got 28yrs driving tractor trailers all over N America. 0 accidents & if I rolled my rig I would be fired in a heartbeat no matter if I was driver of the year. In fact drivers who drive large vehicles are held to a higher standard & get fired for less then what happened here. This was no accident, it was 100% preventable . Would it still be a "misstep" if people got killed?

[@michaelthorin7908]

Preventable? Yes. Fire them? No. I would be surprised if most of the people that are either bashing this crew or saying they should be fired had never done something as a driver that could have caused this. It’s awesome that they are doing this video, and that they aren’t making excuses. This is what we are supposed to do in the fire service: learn from others, and the mistakes we make today, we pray that we will not make again tomorrow. I would say that from this day on, this AO is probably the most cautious driver on the department. Hats off to these firefighters.

[@Howard3S]

Another thing to consider, is that these runs are usually over relatively short distances. You can try this experiment (with safety measures in place).... take a 4 mile run staying not much above the speed limit and at least slowing down at cross streets enough that you could stop if needed. then do the run again at a speed flirting with breaking friction with the street, and rolling thru every intersection and red light. The difference in a 4 mile suburban or city response is often not much more than 30 seconds. The mission is to get there (main mission - get there) quickly (but not so quickly that you may not make it.) The other thing is if you allow yourself to get full of adrenaline anticipating the call, you will experience tunnel vision. Your mind is refocused on what is right in front of you and the (less threatening) peripheral vision gets muted ...(I never saw that bus coming). One thing about the "armchair police", they are calm and focus their thinking on driving. Operating an engine, getting radio updates, figuring out your route, etc. are very distracting from the 90% plus that the driver should be focusing on DRIVING. When I see videos of heavy equipment blazing down a midday street leaning on the claxon I just cringe. They are NOT getting there that much faster and might not get there at those speeds. The only way to truly, safely get there sooner, is to rush leaving the fire house (leave sooner). The videos where fire fighters are slowly walking to the rig, talking, and then mount up and drive like crazy is backwards. Leave sooner - rush into the rig, drive moderately. NOt the other way around.

[@Howard3S]

Mister X Thanks. in some way I was bracing for a rash of sarcasm. I've also done long distance motorcycle competition when younger. same concept applies...leave sooner. If I was more in the game I'd push to teach this as a concept.

[@Firemandave911]

30yrs retired and I can still remember way back in engineers school they pounded it into our heads, No matter whether it's a red or green light at an intersection you slow way down then half way through my years my Dept went to a stop at all intersections before going on. I never had a problem because of these rules. It does no good to the people waiting on you to get there, if you don't !

[@margief1798]

Whether.

[@Firemandave911]

@@margief1798 Thx......... lol

[@yoboi6236]

Exactly

[@glcmranger421]

So refreshing to hear other firefighters agreeing that this wreck could have been prevented with reduced speed and a careful driver. It’s the truth.

[@jackh577]

In my opinion stop at every intersection is not going to work in the inner city. It would cost more lives than it would save. Slow down and proceed with caution works good for me. If you are saying stop at all red lights, that's more feasible.

[@Bishop2155]

As they say cameras don’t lie. You was going too fast

[@SpartacusColo]

OMG, ya. Way too fast. Driver Effed up bad.

[@gmctech]

wow. that's a wreck where usually nobody comes out of it alive.... but it was so incredible to see how humble these firefighters were and huge respect for them each taking responsibility for their part in the situational breakdown that led to the crash. but it wasn't an accident folks. it was a crash. it was preventable but I digress. I'm just glad these firefighters are still alive to save lives.

[@sitesofshreveport]

Whoa! That was an amazing video in many ways. Sure glad to see that all involved have made a full recovery. As a former racecar driver, I know how easy it can be to drive over the edge without a second thought. This video will be an asset to many. Well done!

[@jospeaches8533]

GO SEATTLE!!

[@notthatdonald1385]

This video should be played at many volunteer dept's across the country. I took pride in my driving, and pump operation, etc. I never "stepped it up" to save a few seconds..

[@jamespinckard4210]

Truly amazing that no one was injured. Glad everyone was o k. We here at our house love all of our emergency personell. My son is a paramedic for 28 years.

[@davidhickmon70]

You may have saved more Fireman and others in all walk's of life that is a blessing. God Bless You All.

[@notthatdonald1385]

Around 1980 we had a mutual aid for a MVA in front of the next towns' station 2. Driver took off lost control and hit a big oak tree. There was a guy on the back step with his air bottle on. He was crippled from hitting the road. Another farther away dep't had the same ALF pumper as we did the driver took down 6 utility poles with minor injuries.

[@uncfred1]

Message from the Chief...agree with the comments about training & time behind the wheel. Bus drivers are on the road all day, & get very good at driving large vehicals. We don't come close timewise in our driving, so do tiller practice in a mall parking lot before or after their hours monthly-.keeps you sharp. Oh yes, 30 years ago I rolled a brand new Wheel Coach ambulance when I was cut off - but I learned just like they did to slow down. Adrenaline is a powerful drug - learn to control it!

[@jimbernard71]

Accidents happen so people learn and survive the future! Well done video and Thank GOD everyone is well now👍👍💯🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@roylafferty973]

Thanks for what you guys do. Stay safe

[@packingten]

I drove tractors,delivered trucks,drove tow trucks,We had a 35 ft tour bus I drove....The problem here, The Firetruck was going WAY TO FAAAST!.. It look like is was @ least 30/35 mph going around that corner!,That heavy ladder made that trailer TOP HEAVY!.

[@jantodd484]

Wow! So glad everyone is alright. Seatbelts, ladies and gentlemen!!

[@Are0hEssEss]

Guy in the SUV: "Holy...omg! I...am gonna miss the cutoff for breakfast at McDonalds! *floors it*" -.-

[@tm13tube]

Firefighters are a valuable resource. I always say a little prayer for their safety.

[@tonypuntillo4931]

So glad everyone survived.

[@aaronmichael7116]

WINDSOR, CANADA....Across the Detroit River from Detroit, Michigan, USA. Almost exact same accident. A rookie driver out for some driver training. A clear, sunny day. A call came in for a medical emergency a few blocks away. There were 4 personnel on the engine. The Captain told the driver to drive to the call, considering it was a few blocks away, and it would have taken longer to switch drivers. As they approach an "S" turn, the driver doesn't slow down enough, and the engine's water made the engine turn over. It landed on its side. In the end, it was

[@aaronmichael7116]

It resulted in the driver being paralyzed from the neck down for life, a firefighter with severe arm lacerations, and a long lasting PTSD

[@megaweld7018]

This took much courage for them to admit their mistakes & tell their stories. Thank God they survived this ordeal . Tillers have their place particularly in the tight streets of large cities up here in the NE but the question is have they become a show piece for many departments who really don't need them.?

[@AZditchdoc]

Thank God no one died... Good video!

[@deanlabbe9952]

Always remember when responding that it is someone else's problem. Haste makes waste, it's better to be a couple minutes late than becoming another situation.

[@jackryan9218]

TDA fire trucks are very important to those fire departments they serve. There is no doubt, based upon the video of this particular accident, that training was either lacking or practically non existent at the time of the accident. The good news is, these brave men and women will live to fight another day and that they will ensure a more safe response. Tiller trucks are essentially tractor trailer type rigs. The only major difference being, the rear axle is steerable by a tiller man. Balance, especially when turning, is crucial to the rigs ability to navigate safely through turns and of course unexpected obstacles. It appears they were indeed in a hurry and no one on the rig thought about the consequences of rushing. Every single fireman lives to fight fires and save lives. However, they must first get there safely to do that. This is a very well done video and it clearly demonstrates the need for all fire departments, utilizing these TDA apparatus, to train constantly. I hate seeing fireman hurt. It bothers me greatly. They risk their very lives to save others and that should be praised and respected.

[@larss592]

Everybody makes mistakes. We are all human. Extra training helps but does not eliminate the human factor.

[@cmcer1995]

You have to arrive to do anyone any good and without a doubt this was a hard lesson, but one that won't be forgotten either. That was scary to watch.

[@robertdunn5825]

Awesome video glad everyone made it out ok.

[@curtistucker8514]

I am glad all of you are ok.and doing ok

[@dansisson4524]

The safety precautions that Pierce took into account in designing and building the cab kept the roof of the cab from crushing the crew.

[@yoboi6236]

Pierce look at www.ferrarafire.com this is what my dad sells the windshield in this would’ve moved cracked maybe but the roof would have stayed Pierce is a bunch of cookie cutters look at Ferraras safety

[@justanotheraviator2357]

@@yoboi6236 nobody matches Sutphen safety though, they only make one cab for a reason

[@Videoguy2129]

WOW so Glad everyone is Okay it could have been Alot worse God Bless u all

[@robjones9691]

31 years as a fireman/emt and fire mechanic. The number one thing I've learned is that firefighters will do dumb things, get caught up in the "excitement", thats why they have unions. To protect them from learning from their mistakes and needed punitive measures. There are exceptions of course but not often enough, Volunteer dept.s tend to be quick to react and retrain. Large dept.s have things either lost on the way up the chain or expect situations to be handled in the shift/station. Put something on the news and all hell breaks loose to CYA and offer up a body/group. Its the nature of the beast. BTW, Seattle Fire is a decent dept for the most part

[@williamhowe1131]

Looking forward to tiller training this year or next... good heads up safety video

[@camburton4109]

totally blew the solid red light ! there is no excuse responding like that What good are you if you don't make it to the call !

[@ColRAPR]

Speed Kills !

[@benth162]

Interestingly enough you can see how the back-end driver straighten up his wheels when he should have kept them turned to the right, thus allowing the back end to find it balance point, but by straitening up the steering he allowed the weigh of that back-cab to continue to move in the direction of its inertia which was now perpendicular to the movement of the wheels. I know it was only about one or two seconds to react, but by the time he straitened up his wheels it was too late and the weight of the rear had no where to go but over rather than following the wheels if they had stayed turned to the right for another second or two. Unless you have had practice with that type of moving inertia on those rear wheel steering trucks, you can make a bad decision in a micro second that you then cannot recover from.

[@blinko656]

Thank you for that info...

[@Bishop2155]

It’s common sense 🙄

[@MrNice1966]

great vid. at least no one was killed or apparently seriously hurt. they did lose a truck tho I am sure, but mechanics cud probably salvage some of the rig for parts. I didn't know they still operated trucks like that - with a tiller - I don't think we have that here in Toronto. I have noticed our trucks all the time - stop for everything, unless its plainly obvious they don't have to. As a driver myself, I was surprised to see them drive fast thru a Red light and around a corner, perhaps if the tiller opertator wud have turned the wheel hard right, instead of left - he might have been able to save it..but that's pure speculation. Glad they all made it AND didn't get fired. Driving ANY vehicle - its essential to practice practice practice until u have it perfect or close to it, before u hit the streets - I say that as a professional driver. I underwent hours of driving before I achieved my bus license.

[@chubbz5150ify]

MrNice1966 when the driver of the truck turns the steering wheel to the left, the tiller operator turns his steering wheel to the right. Had the tiller operator turned his steering wheel the opposite direction at that speed, the truck still goes over. It's all about weight transfer and making sure it's a balanced act when doing so. Sounds easy, but definitely not. That is why they slow down at all intersections no mater the colour of the lights. But at least the firefighters accepted responsibility for this accident and have gone out of their way to improve their own safety and that of the public they serve as civil servants.

[@IcelandEmt]

Great video. Be safe out there my US family...

[@curlyfries3651]

Damn, that’s really really sad I’m from North Carolina and this is a day before I was born.

[@D_in_DC]

That accident was caused by full time members, not volunteers.

[@petefoster941]

Traffic lights: Approach expecting to stop - Look to go

[@OpporTUNAtySportfishing]

Tiller killer...nice!!!

[@austinmcguire8518]

Happened in Raleigh NC

[@CShivery]

AND he was turning that fast on a red light.

[@user-peach408]

Wow, car just drives off like nothing. Unbelievable the people that just drive by and not stop to offer assistance. WOW.

[@mellothejello3285]

At 12:02 you can almost see that tail operator reacting to them about to flip. I might be going crazy but that’s what I see

[@arthurdietrich]

The focus on the seat belt issue instead of the unreasonable speed and reckless driving is a mistake. It's not a mistake when you blow through red lights and don't control your vehicle, it's very predictable. It's a matter of time. Glad Raleigh learned there lesson without killing someone. Hope our Dept does the same.

[@wallym66]

going too fast to make the turn. drop 10 before you go in,large vehicles that are top heavy roll very easy.

[@FeartheCyr611]

Ive lived in raleigh nc for about 12 years and dont recall this happening

[@westwasbest]

Glad everybody is okay, but as a professional commercial driver with a clean license for over 40 plus years including driving Fire Equipment, I can tell you that turn was taken much too quickly and speed was the culprit and Driver error was the reason

[@kevindel7765]

after watching this video , I feel that the narrative is to make a Hero out of Zero. many mistakes and missteps were made by many featured in the video but yet the somber soundtrack plays and the commentary of the sorry mistakes were over played.

[@mikewhipkey6863]

I didn't know Swift responded to house fire's..

[@sissyturd8021]

That's so crazy I hope you guys are ok :)

[@darrens.4322]

Speed too high for turn and conditions.

[@tiger2338]

Seatbelts for sure! Maybe airbags as well.

[@tbugher62]

Going way too fast for a corner turn.

[@Iwannaseerunlic]

the back tiller tire caused that

[@l.a.firefighterparamedic8031]

Truck 4 & Rescue 2

[@TowMater603]

Dear Chief ..............

[@maxmummaxmax912]

That SUV just drives off..

[@blinko656]

I subscribe to LOOD and I tell you not a week will go by where Volunteer Firemen are killed going to fast and rolling the equipment. I read it week after week. I love the volunteer guys but somebody has to tell them to slow down... Retired

[@limemonster2295]

Shore go fast BUT NOT ON TURNS

[@rohnkd4hct260]

TOOOOOO DAMN FAST!!!!!

[@blinko656]

I just watch this again. You should not even address this rollover due to high speed on KZbin. It’s embarrassing for your department. The captain should’ve been on the driver’s ass. Hope the driver of that rollover is not an engineer any longer.

[@remowilliams623]

From the video, the main Driver was going way to fast to make that turn, if you don't make it to the call then you are the call. Glad no one died, You got to know your limitations. You failed, so learn from it.

[@Giantsfan981]

Why did u 2 people dislike this video? Like really, have some dignity

[@Carter-dv4hz]

Great you guys yeet it around a corner and screw up now everyone else has to take extra training.

[@Scottdrums]

give it up to cape cod for that bag of chips staying sealed.

[@SNS8R03]

and the public just drove on by ......

[@happyjack880]

SLOW DOWN!!!

[@pigjubby1]

Simple: Took the turn too fast. It happens.

[@mrwonderful2142]

8:29 no, if you had your seatbelt on......

[@glcmranger421]

Wow! The guy wearing his seatbelt says he’s be dead without, yet the two not wearing seatbelts lived! Don’t make stupid statements. Seatbelt use does not guarantee life just like not using them guarantees death. I’ve investigated many crashes and I’ve seen dead people belted in and others walking around after being thrown from the vehicle. My job was to determine how they died, not why they lived.

[@patriotreno6279]

Who you gonna call

[@tazcountry4828]

It appears that the driver was going to fast in my opinion why is he still on the job I don’t know but that’s all government for us you’re a government worker you screwup you still get to keep your job job

[@agentderekanderson8356]

That sucks they were too top-heavy the tanks need to be closer to the ground

[@jimlincoln1283]

Driver was speeding to fast for the turn

[@Carter-dv4hz]

So let me get this straight, they admit to not wearing seatbelts, driving distracted, blowing through red lights with no regard, they rip roll your ladder truck, and you still don't fire them?

[@wnaburgencesante]

Did their Engineer receive discipline outta this ?

[@aflaz171]

Well here's an armchair expert giving his opinion. The vehicle was going to fast to take that corner safety! There you have it.

[@patriotreno6279]

I know what happened wow ready I believe he was going too fast what do you think. Maybe he drives a sport car

[@jamiecampbell3068]

9 years later .. .. algorithm ensures me that Captain Peyton Manning .. .. errrr', whoops .. .. Captain Steve Page, and crew are good.

[@dennismcclintock3154]

First of all as being a certified CDL truck driver of over 30 plus year in construction and heavy equipment operator and a 20 year FF/MED YOU ALL DID EVERYTHING WRONG. YOU MUST SLOW DOWN WAY BEFORE MAKE AN IRADICT TURN YOU ALL FORGOT ONE MAJOR THING YOU ARE A TANKER WITH 500-750 gallons of water plus fuel and all equipment on board but most import that truck is TOP HEAVY MEANING CENTER OF GRAVITY IS NOT YOUR FRIEND CRANKING CORNER WEATHER YOU HAVE REAR STEER OR NOT ALL THAT WEIGHT PLUS LOAD SHIFTS TO the HIGH POINT THATS A NO BRAINER .I DO KNOW BEING IVE DRIVEN SEMI DUMP AND SEMI CONCRETE MIXER AND HAVE SEEN MANY OF OTHER COMPANY DRIVERS LOADED WITH 23 ton of stone and not slow down enough for a curve and flip and roll the semi you are no different Glad to see everyone walk away for most part glad you did not kill anyone, GOD WAS ON YOUR SIDE THAT DAY .MAIN THING YOU ALL NEED TO REMEMBER IS YOU ARE TOP HEAVY also I know about being a ff I was and engineer on a engine and also know about the tones going out for a structure fire and the pure ADRENALINE RUSH BLOOD PRESSURE GOES UP AND THE THINKING IN FASTER BUT NO!!!! That when accidents happen gotta try an keep your witts about ya and I know also how you hope no one gets hurt in the fire you or commrads or people in structure fire by also know the high if coming back in quarters wreaking of smoke on jacket and bunker pants kinda like a trophy been there loved what did do for as long as I did for SUBURBAN DEPT OUT SIDE CHICAGO, IL

[@turbowarp]

And they all still have jobs?