RAM 1500 ECODIESEL Review ** From Heavy Diesel Mechanic** | EcoDiesel VS HEMI

[@paladin11C40]

I wanted to buy the Ecodiesel in my 2020 Rebel, found the one I wanted, then found out the dealers in my area were marking the Diesel up by almost 10k dollars. I did the math and found that in the 7 years to pay off the truck, it would not make up that amount of money in savings between diesel and gasoline, so I bought the 5.7 instead.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

not to mention the price of diesel right now is quite a bit higher then normal gas.

[@paladin11C40]

@@TheGettyAdventures Now I am looking at selling my truck due to gas prices. I am looking at a Rubicon 4xe or just the 2.0L turbo. I want something to take off-road, without costing a lot for a daily driver.

[@drunkhusband6257]

@@paladin11C40 A wrangler gets worse gas mileage than a ram lol

[@paladin11C40]

@@drunkhusband6257 My Gladiator Rubicon gets better gas mileage than my Rebel.

[@drunkhusband6257]

@@paladin11C40 But....it doesn't

[@magicdio32]

I got the 2017 and towing 7.000lbs 33ft travel trailer and it’s working great. By the way we are from the northpole and no problem starting during winter season -30 🥶.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

like the town of North pole in Alaska? if so I've actually driven through lol pretty unique town! But that's pretty sweet it starts up with ease in such cold temperature.

[@magicdio32]

@@TheGettyAdventures Sweet! Actually I live up here in Yukon Canada, and the next stop that we usually driven are Alaskan town and cities..

[@michaelmappin4425]

2016 Ecodiesel bought new. Just rolled 100,000 miles, 80% of that was towing a 9500 lb travel trailer. Oil changes every 7500 miles, diesel and air filters every 15,000 miles. Tires at 65,000 miles and battery at 90,000 miles. It had 1 CEL at 70,000 miles and was fixed under the emissions warranty. All software updates are complete and I still get 28 mpg on the highway. Runs and looks great. Yes, my trailer was too heavy but the truck handled like a beast.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

right on sir. it does seem that these engines like to be run hard. but you also seem to be on top of your maintenance which is also important. but hey can't complain with 28mpg's

[@Grant3758]

Considering getting one and would be doing a lot of road trips with an rv. Did you ever feel like you would have been better with the 2500 towing that 9500 so much? Thanks for the help!

[@michaelmappin4425]

@@Grant3758 during our travels throughout 38 states the answer to that question is a bit complicated. I usually got around 13 mpg while towing and between 24 and 28 while stationed and unhitched. A 2500 would probably get less than that. Over 100,000 miles, I would estimate the cost differences to be around $1,000 in fuel. I would never get a hemi (gas) 2500 though; that amount would at least double. I knew that I was towing at or above my GCVW so I used a $2000 Pro Pride hitch and kept it at 62mph always. There were probably 3 stretches of road where the grade slowed me down to around 45mph and I noticed transmission and oil temperature climbing to the point where I wondered if I was going to need to pull over. In each instance, we crested the hill and everything returned to normal before there was any real issue. Finally, the Ecodiesel isn't really capable of towing anything but the smallest 5th wheel, so upgrading trailers wasn't an option. I still have my 1500 to this day. I love it and am very proud of the job it did. It continues to be completely reliable and perfect for my current non RV lifestyle. The 2500 wouldn't be as good of an unhitched, around the local area truck but it will give you a lot more towing confidence and trailer options. Also, a 2500 costs more to buy initially. If I had to do it all over again, I think I would have bought a used HD truck (I couldn't have afforded new at the time) and a used 5th wheel trailer. When unhitched though, I would have to hear my wife flat out refuse to drive or park the bigger truck. After leaving the life for our current condo, we would have to get rid of the truck. Again, because my wife would complain and make me take her everywhere. I'm sure there are wives out there that wouldn't mind. Hope this all helps. Happy and safe travels and via con Dios.😉

[@Grant3758]

@@michaelmappin4425 that was really helpful. Thank u. I don't think we'd be doing 80% towing but like u mentioned we'd be stuck trying to find a smaller 5th wheel if we had the 1500. Thats really impressive you towed that heavy trailer for that many miles and had minimal issues. I think well check out which travel trailers we like and probably go from there. My wife is already hesitant about having a large truck and rv combo so i definitely understand where you're coming from:) it'll probably then come down to if we want one of the larger 5th wheel rvs with our animals and dirtbikes and what not. Anyways, thanks for the help sir. Have a nice weekend!

[@michaelmappin4425]

@@Grant3758 I agree, choose the trailer first.

[@tct9mm151]

Had one, loved it! It was a 2014 first run in the Ram. Amazing fuel mileage, good tow manners! No complaints here because I parked in a garage during our northern Manitoba winters and I have a long history with owning Diesel engines and always ran Rotella 0w40 synthetic not that expensive Euro crap oil.

[@scotthackett4500]

Rotella!! #1

[@umadbrooo6947]

You use 15w40 for diesel

[@spencerelsbury9110]

@@umadbrooo6947 ya 15w40 in the summer and 5w40 in the winter

[@normanflint8757]

​@@umadbrooo6947no ,15-40 is the Cummins engine,,,,t6,5-40 is for the 3 ltr..

[@stp196719]

Got mine tuned and EGR deleted. Increased power and picked up 4 to 5 mpg. Also regens went from about every 3 days to about every 3 weeks. Also without the EGR, the oil stays way cleaner. Also solves the problem with the map sensor sooting up, intake has cleaned itself up after 10,000 miles of driving after tuning. Great engine tuned, crap with stock tuning

[@TheGettyAdventures]

I believe it 100%, a solid tune alone on these trucks would solve a lot of issues. an EGR delete is also a probably a great way to go.

[@zxej6879]

I have a 2016 Ram 1500 Quadcab 4x4 3.92 ratio Ecodiesel, lifted 2" with 33"tires. My wife has a 2018 Ram 2500 Crewcab 4x4 3.42 ratio 6.7 Cummins, stock height with 33"tires. The main bearing issue on the ecodiesel comes from drivers turning off the engine with a hot turbo. I use a Bank's iDash mounted on the pilar. To tell me how close the coolsnt and the oil temperatures are. When both are in the desired range, I will shit the engine down. My truck sees a lot of highway miles on speed control. The engine has 162,226 miles. With 56 idle hours and 3285 drive hours. I did not drive it much in the last year. Because I bought a new Dodge Durango. To deal with a tighter parking situation a my job. But I did take a trip in the past 2 weeks that took me from California to Colorado, then up to Northern Idaho and back to California. I did have a little side trip, towing a U-haul trailer for a nephew. That I went from Colorado into Southern Washington after first going to Idaho. And then back to up to Northern Idaho. A total of just under 4,000 miles. The truck ran beautiful, with lots of power. The truck does have a Bank's silencer delte kit. And a Flowmaster 50 series Big Block 3" inlet and single outlet muffler. The fuel economy used to be outstanding. But I let a tire shop change the oil when getting new tires. And they overfilled it. Then the PCV picked the excess oil. Fouling the intake. And with the EGR issues, the intake got very gunked up. If I did not use Hot Shots Secret products in the fuel. The DPF and the SCR would be gunked up. I understand from some friends with the gen 3 Ecodiesel. The engine now has an 8 quart sump capacity, rather than 10.5. And the EGR gas is taken after the DPF and the SCR. I shouldn't really complain about the fuel economy. I averaged 23mpg, even with the trailer and going over many high mountain passes up to over 10,000ft. I averaged 65-70mph as allowed. The only thing is on a similar trip in 2017. I averaged 28mpg. And that included driving 105mph across some of the flat parts of US-50 in Nevada. And 80mph, as posted in Utah. With 75mph in the spots that 75mph was the speed limit. If my parking situation had not changed. I would have bought a 2020 Ecodiesel. But keep in mind. Diesels are lean burn engines. They love lots of air. And to get out and run with a load! Idling is not a diesel thing.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

So it seems like you run your eco diesel in the perfect way lol. long drives to get everything up to operating temperature. You seem very knowledgeable about the engine which is awesome and probably why you won't experience issues. But imagine the average person just buying an ram 1500 with an eco diesel simply because they want good fuel mileage, without knowing anything about how to properly maintain them. that's where I think a lot of these issues arise. is the consumer thinking this engine is just like any gas engine. As for the main bearing issues I'm curious why you say a hot turbo causes that.

[@zxej6879]

@@TheGettyAdventures I have a class A drivers license. When I drove for C.R. England when the electronically controlled diesels were introduced. The Cummins N14 manually discussed this problem. And the operating procedure to prevent it. I currently am a Stationary Engineer. The emergency generators at the facilities that I work at. All have an automated procedure for shutdown. That cools the turbo.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

@@zxej6879 very interesting. I mean I've always heard that you want to let the turbo spool down before shutting down the engine( if lets say you were high idling the truck) But i guess it does makes sense you would want a cool turbo

[@cocainechestpains]

I think it's worth noting that , you can't really compare this engine to a Hemi in the same way that you would drive the Hemi. This goes for just about any diesel in my experience. Its worthless to just mat the throttle in a turbo diesel , in this case ...an EcoDiesel or Cummins for that matter, like how you would with a 5.7 or 6.4 gas engine. I recommend that you roll into the throttle rather than just hit it where ever you want it at quickly, and at 3/4 throttle roughly, not full to the floor. I guarantee you will absolutely notice a difference in the way your diesel feels under load changing the way you operate it like I just described.

[@Mile2Marathon]

100% agree - " I recommend that you roll into the throttle rather than just hit it where ever you want it at quickly, and at 3/4 throttle roughly, not full to the floor"...it's a diesel.

[@devinstetler6874]

I agree, I have found that it performs better if you don’t hit the throttle but go smooth on it. I have squawked the tires 🤣

[@AmericanSurvival001]

Well, he hast to compare to something because Ford does no longer sell the “mini power stroke, which was a piece of junk! And only sold in the most expensive Ford vehicle which was 80+ thousand they stop selling them two years ago my friend had one it lasted three months and blew up. He did nothing but drive back-and-forth to work never pulled even a pair of jet skis with it. Ford ended up buying the truck back because they did not want to do an engine swap because the same thing would’ve happened to the next junk mini power stroke engine.

[@MrNismopro]

I had a 22 Rebel EcoDiesel and it did lag, however once it did hit, it would cycle through the gears so quick. Now I have an EcoDiesel Jeep Wrangler with the Banks Derringer, and holy moly, this thing pulls so hard that the left side tweaks on acceleration. You can see the twist in the body looking out the windshield. But both of these are 3rd generation variants of the 3.9.

[@Tac0312]

Had a 2014, best 80000 miles I ever drove in a truck. I have a 3500 Dually now and I miss the comfort of that ecodisel. You are spot on though with your review. I drove 45 mins twice a day to work. The truck never even mentioned anything about Regen or had any issues., But the previous owner had it bought back from FCA at 10k miles because he drove it to the grocery store and back. This is a commuter truck.

[@seanbutler2291]

So you got rid of it before it was even at 100,000 miles, I don't know how that proves anything for you, any vehicle should be able to do 100,000 miles trouble free. I mean it's cool that you enjoyed it but it certainly doesn't mean that it's a good engine or reliable because even the shittiest of engines these days should be hitting at least 100,000 miles fairly trouble free. Also a "commuter truck" is an oxymoron.

[@Tac0312]

@@seanbutler2291 A commuter truck because no other half ton was better on mileage. Not even v6 gassers. It was better on the highway than my wife's CX-9, so yeah it was a truck and better than most cars other than tiny eco cars economically making it not an oxymoron. I upgraded campers so a half ton want appropriate anymore. Not all modern engines last 100k, and people were complaining of cam failures and engines failing well before 50k hence the post.

[@glebglebglebgleb]

My EGR cooler started leaking.. decided to do a full exhaust delete... WOW what a difference. No more lag, better fuel economy and 80 more torque.

[@philliprader6298]

That's awesome. How much more mpg?

[@glebglebglebgleb]

@@philliprader6298 they say 5% improvement. Never really calculated it but I'm around 10-11L/100k combined city.and highway

[@joshkristenblankenship7695]

I had a 2016 ram with the eco diesel and once the recall was done on the emissions stuff it would take 2-3 seconds to accelerate from a stop when cold. Once it was warmed up or about 5 minutes of driving it wasn’t as noticeable. I ended up getting rid of it once the tone wheel broke in half, which is what helps with timing. This was replaced under a recall notice that FCA had for this known issue. Great that it was replaced at no cost because the transmission had to be dropped in order to replace it due to the location.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Yes, the difference between accelerating in the HEMI vs the Eco diesel from a stop was night and day. I mean at least FCA did fix the issue under warranty. I've heard some horror stories about FCA refusing to replacer stuff under warranty for whatever reason.

[@jamesbriseno4705]

Bought a 2015 eco diesel 05/2020 w/52k. Had a consistent leak and after 6 times in the shop, 4 water pumps, come to find out it was the top end hose! Yes, has the initial lag, needs to warm up. Over all, a good truck, tows well, runs like a champ on road trips and gets 30-33 mpg running clear. I am nervous about it because of track record and will be purchasing another warranty if I keep it. It is different, one has to want it or not. Great video Amigo….just can’t compare it to a Hemi. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos….👍

[@billmalec]

Had one. Had zero problems with it. Pulled a 7,000lb camper great, actually better than my 7.3 Excursion! It needed a better cooling system though,as temps would rise if you went near 70 mph while towing or went up steep hills. Other than that, it was great. Could get better than 30mpg driving it easy and 12 mpg pulling the camper, where the 7.3 was about 9 pulling a camper.

[@chuckk458]

I got a Jeep gladiator with the new 3rd gen ecodiesel, and so far (7k miles) I love the darn thing. Here’s hoping it keeps running just fine for many years to come. I drive 40 miles round trip to work and back, so I figure 20 miles there and 20 miles home is probably enough to keep the filters clear.

[@davidmopar8446]

Thats awesome, ive been looking at one and dont know if i should go with the gas or diesel. Im just a bit nervous about that diesel engine.

[@chuckk458]

@@davidmopar8446 I totally understand the nervousness.

[@alekseyabramchuk6718]

7 k miles???? Are you serious

[@mrconductor144]

2019 White Ram Classic EcoDiesel Crew Cab 3.92 rear end, 6'4 box, upgrades like Titan Tank 150L can go 1900k on a tank, also stage 2 weight loss program. Oil stays very clean

[@IYG-x7c]

That acceleration delay is true for VW diesels as well. Very annoying and sometimes dangerous, but I still prefer diesel to petrol. Software tunes usually solve all issues but my warranty is up to 120k miles

[@steveknight9254]

You will love the Malone stage 2 with delete, takes the engine back to its torquey quick responding self, a lot more fun to drive, kiss goodbye to cel’s and no start warnings too. Probably an extra 50 to 80 km more per tank too.

[@IYG-x7c]

@@steveknight9254 Yeah....I am still under warranty. Today check engine came on, getting fixed for free. I don't think I will keep the car past 120k miles. Already eyeing new Dodge RAM Limited diesel

[@steveknight9254]

About 1 km past warranty I was done, in it went.

[@tonyblackburn5002]

I've known of 3 people to but them 2 of them spent more time br9ke down than on the road the other guy traded it in at 35k miles for a f150 coyote and loves it.

[@drunkhusband6257]

If you drive in the tow/haul mode you will get a significant performance increase, it's basically the ram version of a sport button when not towing.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

probably cuts down on some of the emission related tuning crap also!

[@drunkhusband6257]

@@TheGettyAdventures Not really has more to do with keeping the engine in a higher rpm, and it holds gears longer, as well as engine brakes when you brake it.

[@DanielMalenfant-t7g]

Great review, good stuff! Overall, emissions restrictions are definitely giving "modern' diesels a bad rap. Thank you California Air Resource Board, lol. Being originally designed for marine use, I can see how the engine was not intended to have emissions equip other than maybe a basic catalytic converter. Also, thousands of folks who buy these light duty diesels for the fuel mileage have no idea they really need to be driven, hence the dpf & egr sooting issues. They're not grocery store & Home Depot runners. When Ram decided to put a diesel in its 1500's, I'm surprised they didn't go w/ the Mercedes Benz 3.0 V6, being an automotive engine & designed with emissions in mind. From what I gather, it's been very successful in Sprinters. I know it was an option in Grand Cherokees at the end of the Daimler era at Chrysler. Maybe Ram was contractually obligated to use a product that fell under the Fiat umbrella. That being said, seems strange they used a VM Motori engine in the Jeep Liberty CRD when Chrysler was still part of Diamler Group. I plan on getting a Tahoe/Suburban 3.0 Dirty-Max when the LZ0 is available for 2025 MY. Emissions seem reliable & good design in that the egr system pulls exhaust after the DPF, so less carbon buildup issues.

[@DaveEcodiesel3.0]

I have a 2nd GEN 2016, love the truck, 170,000 going solid, I do use heavy duty diesel oil (Rotella T6 5W40 ), these 2nd GENs needs to use the same oil as CUMMINS 6.7 use ,and not the original oil that was intended to used with them. So if you own a second gen use any diesel oil with the CK4 detergent spec. I do have a BANKS systems , inline tunner installed , Proved on a DYNO, I gained HP, torque and also my MPG went up by 3mpg, while staying emission compliance. The BANKS systems keeps the engine working cleaner with less regeneration. I do live in FLORIDA, so for me emissions are not need it, my next step will be deleting the truck and re tune, if you live in a emissions compliance state, I will recommend a banks deringer with the pedal monster combo. I forgot to mention my truck its level running 35 inch tires, daily driver, love the truck. I also run every 6000 miles a bottle of diesel extreme from the hotshot secret products, I have noticed that the fuel systems works better since I start using it, the check engine light went away for the DPF and the engine sounds smoother. Im not affiliated with any of the brands I have mentioned, Im just putting out there what have works for me.

[@Mile2Marathon]

Thank you for the review - 2nd Ecodiesel, no problem with either one - traded the 1st one in at 60k miles from a deal to the current one (2018) - only has 40k miles, but they are mostly highway. It needs to get up to operating temperature, run for hours, and change the oil every 6k; it's a diesel. Agree the turbo lag is annoying, but the interesting part is that it seems to minimize once the temperature is up (around 200), and it's the wrong setup to mash the pedal.

[@abelchop1]

My is from 2014 and really is fantastic no problem with the engine I love my truck

[@TheGettyAdventures]

a lot of people are saying they love these engine and that's awesome! personally I think there are some flaws but no engine is perfect and if you like it then that's all that matters!

[@Kdawg101]

Great review of the history and the issue with the engine. Glad u didn't say anything about transmission. LOL!. I'm in my 2018 ecodiesel at 103K. Do you think reprogramming/re-tunning the engine to what it was like before emissions pressure came down on RAM would solve some of these catastrophic problems? What can one to prevent catastrophic issues? Maybe replace something like high pressure fuel pump with heavy dutyaftermarket , I don't know.... I d love to do all I can to take it to 300-400k. Thanks!

[@Stevegorneyreal]

My 2016 1509 ecodiesel with 113k miles is now a brick with a seized motor. It was flawless until one day it just had a catastrophic seizing. It’s probably going to be a near total loss as the cost of even replacing with a used engine will cost more than the truck is worth. Very sad indeed.

[@alexanderdrywall3043]

I honestly love this truck! I have the 5.7l hemi but I would like to own one of these just to have one.

[@sylermran]

i love my hemi too but i would like a diesel for the fuel economy

[@alexanderdrywall3043]

@@sylermran plus the low end torque you get at lower rpms cannot be beat in a small half ton pick up.

[@JaredBillette]

Hey man thanks for the video. I’m looking for a new tow vehicle and I’m stuck between the two engines you demonstrated. I live only four miles from work so that’s something to consider. I like that the hemi has a bit higher tow rating. Anyway thanks a lot.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Hemi all the way. the Eco diesels are trouble in the best situations. since you live so close to work I would almost say the Eco diesel isn't even an option for you. the fuel economy is tempting but the hemi is just a simpler engine with less things to go wrong.

[@JJ-ih4xs]

I just wish I saw this video before a sales person recommended a 3.0L Jeep Ecodiesel to me that I bought. We don't drive regularly, we make short trips in the city, and we sometimes use it for hauling an RV trailer. The emission system frequently clogs with short drives, and perplexingly, the thing seems to frequently clog after hours of towing our RV trailer that is well within the tow weight specifications. Please heed the warning about short and infrequent trips from this video! No joke - This thing has probably been in the shop more time than it has been driving. Most unfortunately, a turbo hose recently suddenly blew off leading to a bad situation on the highway while towing, and this was also attributed to emissions clogging. However, for some reason, there was no warning light before that suddenly happened. It's had thousands of dollars of fixes, mainly on the emissions/exhaust components. In the advertisements, it seemed like the ideal vehicle, and the fuel efficiency can be fantastic when it's working. However, much fuel has been lost with the exhaust system regeneration trips and the frequent trips to the dealership. It's been the most frustrating vehicle I've ever owned. If I had only seen this excellent review before I bought it. With that said, Anybody want to buy a Jeep Ecodiesel?! It looks great!

[@TheGettyAdventures]

sorry to hear about that. On paper these engines sound like the perfect solution but unfortunately with the emissions systems it really destroys these engines. some people do end up liking them but I've also heard horror stories and in the end I recommend folks just steer clear of these engines. buy the gas option and spend the extra money on fuel, the head ache of repairs on these eco-diesels is not worth it.

[@JJ-ih4xs]

In hindsight, I certainly would have gone with the HEMI. I think there should, minimally, be a manufacturer warning like, "Must be driven on the highway regularly." I probably just missed that fine print on the window sticker. 🙁

[@Rossco603]

I have a ecodiesel that has 228000 on it the reason i believe the crankshafts are getting ruined is because the intake manifold is plastic and with the egr it melts getting plastic into the oil channels and clogs them.

[@Joshua_Bee]

Gde compliant tune, with pedal commander, lifted on 33s. Set up to tow 11.2k. Got 18 mpg towing 10k over 300 miles other day. Tuned I get about 24 avg mpg and regens take less than 15 miles.

[@Joshua_Bee]

I also recommend using torque pro to monitor regens. I never miss one.

[@MaverickMcGreasy]

I have a pedal commander with my ecodiesel n its the best.

[@cosmicarmorsuperman3111]

Cummins is definitely the way to go so powerful and great sound and reliability I love mine

[@brianrivera3974]

This isn't cummins made it comes from Italy

[@cosmicarmorsuperman3111]

@@brianrivera3974 I never said it was cummins. I said cummins is the way to go aka the best

[@roba4139]

Trading my 2018 for a hemi. I dont do enough hwy driving, need to regen all the time. Have been put into limp mode for no apparent reason 3 or 4 times. When in limp mode you must force a regen to the tune of 900$. Great fuel mileage, pretty quiet for a diesel.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

you know what's crazy? when a customer brings their truck in and we need to do a regen. we plug the computer into the truck and press like 3 button and then sit there for 1 hour and "monitor" the regen. that's what you are paying for at the dealer when they regen your truck. Half id be working on another truck while your regen is running and your truck is on the clock.

[@whatchis1120]

Ok so I bought my Ecodiesel in Aug of '18 with 24k miles right before all of this emissions issues popped up, and the programing was great and good mpgs. The recall they did to the software was bad and given no warning, when the engine was cold it would be very dangerous to pull out onto the main road until it hit 150F (sorry american) on the coolant, then would drive normally but lost a 1 mpg. Then came an update which was essentially a throttle booster, still laggy when the engine is cold but not nearly as dangerous to pullout into traffic. My truck has 86k miles(170's kph?)I have always driven my truck on a longer commute currently 70 miles round trip. Never had a check engine light, never failed to start, still on original brakes, everything except the egr due to recall and a battery. I still love the truck atleast when its up to temps, drives great, super comfortable on a roadtrip, good mpgs still around 26 besides on my very hilly highway commute around 22mpg. I change my oil every 7500 miles, fuel at 22500, dump in Hot Shot secret's edt and extreme makes a difference when in the cooler days not nearly the amount of vibration. If it blows I'll put in a new engine and dump it after a couple of years it's paid for after all.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

you are kind of the perfect candidate for this engine with that nice long drive. keep that aftertreatment system running nice and hot. and like you said basically zero issues to this point. Apparently the 3rd gen eco diesel have better power and acceleration but I'm hearing mixed reviews on that also. either way if you enjoy the truck and the engine and they keep performing for you then perfect. and you can't hate on all that fuel economy!

[@whatchis1120]

@@TheGettyAdventuresYeah the gen 3 is much better, still has lag but still a nice driver. I’ve done my research on the newer diesels before my my ram. It was unplanned as I hit a deer that took out my car as I wast going to buy an eco but wasn’t prepared at the time for a larger purchase. This 4th gen ram are fantastic and refined for time consider they are 10 years old in comparison to the other brands at the time.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

@@whatchis1120 exactly my thinking when I bought my truck. figured they have been out for a while and hopefully ironed out most of the issues!

[@abelr332]

“Not ever engine is designed perfectly” *First gen raptor 6.2 hold my beer😆😆

[@duckwacker8720]

They require 5w-40 and a full delete and tune.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

lol you aren't wrong

[@djmjr77]

In the states they cracked down big time on the delete, supposedly you can still get it in Canada. I called green diesel engineering and mentioned the delete tune, and they acted like the CIA was tapping the call and like I asked tgem to sell me drugs or something... lol.. got very angry and almost hung up on me .. lol.. dpf delete and compound turbo updrage would make this truck a beast and way more reliable in the long run...

[@chasedowney3358]

What does a full delete run USD?

[@stephansmith8767]

I've got a 16 with 155,000 km on it and not a problem yet. A good friend got a 15 after loving mine and deleted it right away. with tune, EGR block off and delete pipe from green diesel it was about 1800 Canadian pesos. And installed it all his self. They also added a few things like high idle for in the winter.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

@@stephansmith8767 High idle is a great thing. I work on the big highway rigs and they all have high idle to help in the winter. honestly wish all passenger vehicles had that option.

[@Meowface.]

Spotted a nice one on a lot this morning, checked out this video before going inside to chat Apparently they’re marking up diesels in my area Just calculating in my head on estimates has me thinking that dealer markup will completely eat up any savings you’d get in fuel I’m ready to buy a diesel truck, they’re not ready to sell I guess

[@TheGettyAdventures]

you don't want this engine my friend. just saw my friends blow up on the side of the road. blew the intake manifold apart. however, it SHOCKS me they are marking up any ram 1500. these things are suppose to be the bread and butter of these dealers.

[@SuperSnakePlissken]

I have known too many guys with the 1st gen of this lose the entire motor and had to replace it. I haven't heard of any problems on the second gen.

[@junkman2758]

HD diesel tune on mine fixed the emissions recall tune.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

you almost have a tune on these things. wasting easy power and fuel economy if you don't

[@jasonborden2661]

305k miles and had my first issue Friday.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Its kind of funny because I have a lot of folks like yourself with high mileage truck with almost no issues. but I also have many people with problem basically from new. Not sure what to make of it all lol

[@jasonborden2661]

@@TheGettyAdventures I’m the only owner of the truck. Your point about knowing how to operate and take care of a diesel is very important. Another point is it’s a 3 liter engine, not a 5.7.

[@baileymiller546]

I'd probably never buy one of these, but maybe would lease one. That's a big maybe.

[@boostimalaka1]

Original owner of a 2015 Big Horn Ecodiesel. Currently have over 110,000 miles. The following repairs made two turbos, replaced 3 Navigation systems, starter and ignition, waterpump, DEF system, EGR cooler, coolant leak. Now my trucks ABS Electronic Trailer Brake 4x4 temporarily out light intermittently comes on. The dealer never changed the front hubs or speed sensor. At least I had a loaner vehicle provided, since some repairs required over 6 weeks.

[@scottandrews4822]

Will you please try to get a 3rd Gen ecodiesel and see what you think? Maybe get all the new light duty diesels....

[@christopheraroig7531]

currently looking at a 2021

[@chrisgall4664]

The turbo lag is annoying for sure, it gets better as it warms up though. I'm guessing that Chrysler really holds it back until the oil warms up to protect the turbo..? But definitely the worst when it's cold. But even when it warms up it's still a little annoying.

[@mikaelkrukoff8872]

This kid doesn’t understand why you want a little turbo lag, for us men who tow we want to feel the load and we don’t gun it and race while towing a load

[@philipkroker]

I saw one of these die at 120000km because the intakes were coked up with carbon due to the EGR.

[@Turvok]

I have a 2020 Gen 3.. Came from a 2013 5.7 hemi and Chevy pickups before that. It's hands down the best truck I've ever owned so far. Pulls awesome with the 3.91 gears in it. Any idea what delete options are available for it? It's not an issue now. But once it goes off warranty I'll be definitely looking at a full delete

[@duckwacker8720]

Delete it ASAP! There's no reason to keep the emissions system on it.

[@Turvok]

@@duckwacker8720 warranty is reason enough for me atm

[@djmjr77]

If you're in the states good luck finding someone who will do it!! GDE will not.. heard you have to send your ECU to Canada..

[@vernlochtefeld1626]

There is a company but I cannot recall the name. You can inquire at the truck forum. www.ram1500diesel.com. BTW don’t delete the new one yet just aftermarket tune it as this doesn’t auto void your 100k mile warranty.

[@juliearca827]

Just bought a 2017 eco diesel 1500 has 70k on dash hope doesn’t cause me issues after watching video .

[@bufjayup7774]

Had a 2014 RAM 1500 w/ EcoDiesel. Was a great truck. Until it wasn't. I bailed on ours @ 54k miles. All kinds of issues. Regen? Nope. Failed auto regen all the time. Still kept getting the nastygrams in the display. 80% and 90% full. Took it to CDJR dealer. They said I needed new O2 sensor.. Sure. Fix it. Whatever. 3 WEEKS later I'm wondering WTF is my truck? Well, dealer had wrecked the SCR cat by tearing out the bung that held one of the O2 sensors. $1,700 later, got it back. 2 months later, got a recall notice from RAM = recalibrate ECM. Ok. Took it in averaging 26mpg. Got it back after recalibration done. OMG - 19 to 20 MPG. And SCARY when pulling out in traffic. Punch throttle, wait 1-2 seconds- then get accel. See ya Eco Diesel. Now I'm reading about main bearing failures in 25% of them - plus all kinds of EGR and turbo issues. The kicker here? I bought the extended warranty. No coverage. Factory recall and settlement? No coverage. Why? Was built for Canada. No coverage in US. Great idea / poor execution. Now own a 2021 RAM 1500 Bighorn with the 5.7 HEMI.....

[@PlatinumPeasant]

Enjoyed watching this video man! I wanted to get a 21’ Ram Rebel 3.0 EcoDiesel but went with a 21’ F-150 3.0 Powerstroke. Any thoughts on ecodiesel vs Powerstroke vs duramax in the 3.0 setup?

[@chrisworm195]

Anyone has experience with pedal commander? It really makes up for the lack of acceleration

[@IronnLung]

What year was that truck? Theres 3 versions of the ecodiesel

[@markodordevic3419]

MR.Tunning Stage 2 delete everything stage 2 transmission and now I eat Fords for breakfast, still not faster then Hemi but it's there.

[@domeniccosco5863]

What’s the best way to fix the pedal lag and what are your recommended upgrades for the truck

[@jxpwashedking2629]

What years is this eco Diesel

[@alecepley8166]

I have a 2017 ram with the 5.7 hemi and I love it. Got that hemi tick but it’s just the bolts for the intake manifold. Over all love it

[@duckwacker8720]

Don't forget the lifter's, valve seats and cam. The second worst gas engine ever. The only one that beats it is the 4.7.

[@alecepley8166]

@@duckwacker8720 yeah but that’s not the case for me. Overall it’s been a great motor for me. Starts right up at -20 degrees just as well as it starts at 105 degrees. But the hemi tick is normally just the intake manifold. But they do have a problem getting oil sometimes because of how it was designed so if you’re really unlucky that’s your second version of the hemi tick I know of

[@chrismagnus2900]

Don't notice any lag with my diesel. Not sure what year that truck is.

[@clydezackery_hootie26]

put a ton in each payload, fill both tanks, drive them 500 miles! You Hemi will need a refill while that EcoDiesel may have 5 gallons

[@scottstrausberger5378]

You may have answered this already, so apologies in advance. I have a 2021 Gen 3 Ecodiesel. Any thoughts, impressions, recommendations for the Gen 3?

[@TheGettyAdventures]

I really wish I had the 3rd gen to try out but unfortunately I don't. From what I have read and heard from folks a lot of the previous issue have been addressed (for now) and apparently they have much better power and acceleration. So as far as I can tell people seem to like them better and they are having less issues overall.

[@travelinman482]

@@TheGettyAdventures Much better..? *a better power.

[@fredtflail]

I put a cylinder head on a 21 due to an oil leak. Has 1300 miles or so.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

@@fredtflail well that's a tough start eh. hopefully that's your only issue for a while!

[@peke2283]

Would you recommend the Cummins over the Ecodiesel?

[@juanvilches530]

Hi, thanks for the information. I do care about diesel pollution, but there is not only ecodiesel and the 5.7L hemi, there is a model with a 3.6L v6, what do you say about this model?

[@TheDrivewayEngineer]

It's not turbo lag, it's 100% the tune

[@t1bud42]

Is it the same diesel that they put in a Jeep Grand Cherokee?

[@philliprader6298]

I hate the REGEN!!! Happens to. Me every two weeks because live in the middle of nowhere and don't have to drive far. Just like what the video says

[@robertayling4950]

Someone may have already asked this, but how about a review of the small Ford and GMC eco diesels

[@jackb9812]

Ford just announced that they’re canceling the f150 diesel.

[@panthermartin7784]

HD diesel so you work on off road diesel gear?

[@tuglife4354]

What year is this truck?

[@jockmiller3056]

Good info 😎👍

[@rodeldamasin7561]

Hi I'm one of your subscriber can you advise me whats the best thing to do how my truck make smoother ride coz I have a lift spring at the back thanks

[@TheGettyAdventures]

smoothest ride is probably the factory suspension set up. what do you mean by lift springs?

[@bulldogg70]

When you talk about the ugly of this 3.0 Ecodiesel, you are talking about Gen 1 & 2 of the 3.0, not the most recent engine gen? Allegedly the newest diesel engine is supposed to be better than slice bread?

[@TheGettyAdventures]

ya this truck has the 2nd gen Eco diesel in it. everyone seems to think the 3rd gen a difference maker. I'm a little skeptical myself, it would be interesting to know exactly what the differences are between the 2nd and 3rd gen Eco diesels. or better yet why Chrysler felt like it needed 3 generation of engines over a 7 year period.

[@bulldogg70]

@@TheGettyAdventures I totally agree with you and it really is sad when they had to make 3 gen's in 7 years. But I am really hoping Gen 3 is the answer. Thanks for your review, hope to see you do one on the Gen 3. soon.

[@jackb9812]

@@TheGettyAdventures the new engine was engineered for more torque. 60 lbs more I believe. Significant difference for towing with that truck.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

@@jackb9812 ya 60lbs will make a difference for sure. especially on that low end power for towing

[@este_the_revenant]

so i drive 50 miles to work and 50 back so 100 miles a day is that too much for this vehicle to handle on a daily basis or is that perfect what do you think ?? because i would love to get this truck

[@jayray274]

You’d be fine. Rule of thumb is 30mins+ one way.

[@Autobhnspd]

I have a 2021 and have a new oil leak after 6K miles. Dealer is saying its from the oil adapter unit and want to replace it but its on back order. They did not say its cracked and did not do a dye test or change a gasket. Any thoughts? Have you heard of oil leaks? should I not keep this truck long term?

[@TheGettyAdventures]

I mean engine oil leaks are not uncommon. probably what happened here is when assembling the engine from factory the gasket or part was damaged or faulty for whatever reason. I wouldn't be that concerned that's what warranty is for. keep a close eye on the oil level and fill as needed until the part comes in. If more issue arise then I would start to worry but if this oil leak is the only issue I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water at this point

[@Autobhnspd]

@@TheGettyAdventures thanks I really appreciate your response

[@danclark565]

Every day ….no…..once a week going for a one hour drive will clean out the filters in the eco diesel

[@TheGettyAdventures]

yup a good drive every now and again will help to clean out the filters.

[@jonchase7752]

Shoulda put something larger in it. 3 liter is pathetically small. Put a 5.9 in it

[@MaddJakd]

I test drove an EcoDiesel GC years ago. Wasn't crazy about it, but not really long enough to draw a proper opinion on it. I just know at the time, it wasn't really loved, though the community seemed starkly devided (and diesel-gate was fresh in everyones minds 🙄) Just seemed too anemic compared to the Cummins and such. And a strange sound for a Grand Cherokee lol

[@dodgeguyz]

Being a tech at a CJDR dealer these motors are garbage. The emissions system will leave you stranded if not just idling on the side of the road. The engine is junk! I would not recommend these to anyone. I just bought a 16 Ram 1500 BigHorn and while searching noticed that the Eco Diesel was always $3-5k less than the Hemi version. Do not by one of these unless you like unreliable transportation. BTW, I’ve got a 17 on my lift right now with a thrown rod on cyl #2. Truck has 70k miles.

[@vernlochtefeld1626]

tech does that mean tire changer? Too stupid to diagnose or figure anything else out for yourself? Just replace anything WiTech says is related to a problem and hope it fixes it? The engine was never built for use with US emissions. Thank the EPA then FCA for not getting cold idle etc emissions exceptions approved. Then thank the idiot socialist professor and resulting EPA AEM detune. Aftermarket tuned & especially deleted it because a pretty reliable lil motor. Those some still had an Uber low rpm crank harmonics issue. We had 3 used commercially. They lasted 371k 423k and 452k respectively towing 1/2 ton appropriate sized travel trailers. Very efficiently and reliably once tuned for a non commercial grade engine.

[@dodgeguyz]

@@vernlochtefeld1626 Yes, and all those issues make them less than reliable! And some go far on miles, but those are very few and not enough to call them reliable! Now go back to changing oil and rotating tires!

[@vernlochtefeld1626]

@@dodgeguyz lol good reply. The main gist of what I was trying to get across is add in an aftermarket tune to fix AEM & to better manage the emissions and it became a much more long lasting and trouble free engine on average. I think we did ok 3 for 3 on residential grade engines that were used for commercial towing. And as you figured out the tech comments were not directed to you personally but hits home for many of the newer techs that on top May have never been trained on diesels.

[@haroldcotten1840]

I'll keep my 5.7, thanks for the info👍

[@cummins24421]

My guy, no one in the city is forgoing pickups because of fuel mileage. They're not buying them because of size. A Prius in the city gets something like 25mpg. Mileage isn't the issue. City parking does not allow for trucks, in a huge proportion of places.

[@indigochild4664]

My Prius c in the city gets 70 mpg! I been thinking of buying a hemi or eco diesel tho, to have a truck that gets great mpg!

[@whogivesacrapaboutastupidc2313]

I appreciate it. I think I'll wait a few years, by used one and rip all that EPA crap off of it.

[@toddbutler5869]

Had my 2019 eco for a little over 2 years now. It's completely stock. Best truck I've ever had. No problems what so ever. Change oil every 8000 miles. No turbo drag. Pulls great and it's surprisingly fast for such a big truck. 24 to 27 mpg with 3:92 rear end.

[@seanbutler2291]

Yeah the basically brand new vehicle you own is so impressive, how about writing that review at 250,000 miles at that point a Diesel's considered midlife. The old 12 valve 5.9 Cummins would do 400,000 mi regularly.

[@toddbutler5869]

@@seanbutler2291 well I can only comment on the experience I've had so far. Unlike some I can't predict the future. But I will truthfully comment in the future.

[@toddbutler5869]

I do agree the Cummins is a better engine. At 20 to 30 thousand more they probably wouldn't sell very many of them if that were not the case.

[@Thumpr110]

How many miles do you have so far?

[@monsoavg9]

@@toddbutler5869update?

[@BigislandEJ]

I saw heavy diesel mechanic and thought,” what’s his weight got anything to do with this?”

[@tipstolevelupinlife5837]

heavy duty mechanic meaning they change axels on loaders as big wuipemebt

[@BigislandEJ]

@@tipstolevelupinlife5837 lol,there's always at least one person that doesn't comprehend humor......

[@TheGettyAdventures]

I mean I could probably drop a few pounds..

[@tipstolevelupinlife5837]

Try being instrumentation journeyman

[@formerice]

Tuned and deleted mine at 5,000 miles, trouble free for almost 120,000 miles. Never take to dealer, do my own service.

[@patrickhartle6633]

Same truck runs strong, love it... put bags, lift kit and a goose neck and towed our toy hualer from Montana to Alaska..

[@joelrodriguez7038]

Brother I have no experience on Diesel engine but in the future I love to buy one of those, you think delete the def is better or what is better option

[@formerice]

@@joelrodriguez7038 I deleted the def system early on. Don't think it's very problematic on the Rams, but it's just something to go bad. Electronicly delete and leave all parts intact. Even dealer won't care.

[@joelrodriguez7038]

@@formerice thanks brother

[@DanOfAllTrades]

@@formerice you didnt take out your DPF SCR? I am tuned to disabled my EGR..i am going to gut my SCR and upgrade my tune. What tune do you have? GDE? ..also,..my statement is about off road only..😉

[@robadams9523]

Good video and good job contrasting the ecodiesel vs the hemi. I bought my ecodiesel 6 years ago and now have 88k miles on the engine. No significant issues whatsoever with the drive train, but I am meticulous about having the oil changed regularly along with the filters. I drive both on city streets and freeways. I also use additives in the fuel to boost cetane numbers and lubricate the injection system. I do not use aftermarket tuning systems. I have had the occasional regen during the cold months, especially if I have been sitting and idling much. However, I have only had 8 to 10 regens in 6 years of ownership. The regen does not require hours of driving as stated in your video. The longest regen I had was about 20 to 25 minutes and most are about 10 to 15. If I am in street traffic (i.e. not on a freeway or highway) , I just manually select the gear that would maintain between 2000 to 2500 rpm during the regen process. Just make sure you select carefully so as not to over-rev the engine. Now during the winter months, after letting the engine warm up to operating temps, I use the same method if I am in city traffic to make sure I minimize soot build up. I believe if you own an ecodiesel you should learn about how diesels work and how the modern clean diesels obtain the clean omissions. Understanding the systems will help the owner better maintain their vehicles. I absolutely love the truck which is a Limited and friends who ride in it always remark about how great it is. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the ecodiesel and keep up the good work. I would like to see a video on the aftermarket tuning systems (good and bad points).

[@beach1963]

Excellent comment! I have 135,000 miles on my 2014 EcoDiesel, mostly driven in town for my short work commute, so the truck has only asked me to drive on the highway for a quick regen maybe once every six or eight weeks. I drive 5 miles up the interstate, turn around, 5 miles back and it’s done! In town I average 18 to 21 miles per gallon, at 55 mph I easily get 33-35 miles per gallon, at 65 between 30 and 32, and at 70 I get between 28 and 30. Last June I towed a 6400 pound U-Haul trailer about 300 miles and averaged 24.5 miles per gallon! The only unscheduled maintenance I’ve had to do was replace a coolant line.

[@slavco75]

I have a 2015 Ecodiesel and almost at 240k on it. The engine has been 100% perfect so far. I tow occasionally a 5000lb trailer and it does alright with it. I have been religious with oil changes though and most of the driving was highway. I also refused the emissions recall to be done by the dealer so still running the original software. Now the air suspension on this thing... now that's a huge piece of garbage, especially during Canadian winters. Summer time, no problem it's great and comfy ride. In the winter..man, it's terrible. Had all the parts replaced and still doesn't work. The dealer gave up and so did I.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Haha I feel like the air ride was designed for Florida driven trucks. I mean the intention for air ride is pretty cool but up here with the harsh winters and road salt those system have a short life span. But happy to hear your truck is running strong. I'd be curious if you not getting the emissions recall had any benefit to the truck.

[@etchediniron4249]

@@TheGettyAdventures I think you’re correct, I have 256,000 miles on my echo diesel and the air suspension has been flawless....I live in FL

[@lynwoodspire8503]

I wonder if the longevity of this engine had Canadian weather contribute to it. Maybe hot southern weather would shorten it’s life span but then again good maintenance is key.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

@@lynwoodspire8503 Good maintenance is key. aftertreatment system's don't like the cold. DEF system can freeze up causing a lot of issues

[@angelaraw6370]

I have the ecodiesel in a Grand Cherokee and COMPLETELY regret having the recalls done.

[@rossscott2319]

Have 180k on my 2015 and get 31mpg. I love it

[@alexhornewer8396]

I just bought a 2016 eco diesel at 70k miles. Some of the things I’ve heard made me a little nervous, I’m only 18 so this was a gigantic purchase for someone like me, but I’m mainly hearing the poor reviews by somewhat city drivers. I live 35 minutes from my nearest store, so the middle of nowhere. I’m driving at around 100 miles a day easy- sometimes more, rarely less. So far, this car has handled my dirt road and the grimy highway near it with ease, and impressive smoothness. If I end up absolutely despising it, I’ll edit this lol, but so far maybe so good? Also the only reason I was comfortable getting a diesel is because my dad is a mechanic on 20,000 lbs water trucks (also with Diesel engines). I don’t know the first thing about heavy loading trucks, let alone trucks in general. So far, he’s also a fan. I got it for $25,500, which to me means I have a lot more wiggle room for mechanical errors. There’s no point to this comment, just stating my experience with it so far... and also to have something to come back to in a year to say “yeah, good truck” or “I’m now in severe debt” :)

[@TheGettyAdventures]

Good on you man, sounds like you did some research and with you driving the truck a good distance on a daily basis you'll probably be just fine. It does seem like consistent city driving kills these things. like I've said many times no engine is perfect and there is always the risk of failure. Keep up with the maintenance and I'm sure the truck will run fine for you. and I'm sure your old man can help fix anything that does go wrong worst case scenario

[@treycherry1367]

I wouldn't classify an eco diesel truck as a car 😉 haha jokes aside congrats on the truck. Welcome to the diesel community

[@crazyj9071]

I’ve had my 2016 since new now at 135k. The only big issues have been the EGR cooler which did end up with a recall. Although it broke at 65k and dumped all the coolant through the engine. Only way to tell was when it overheated, all the coolant went out the tailpipe. I was running the Banks oiled air filter and a senor got plugged up from the oil. Went into limp mode. Switched to a dry cleanable filter. I do have the Banks tuner which is huge! Totally wakes the motor up. Average mileage highway and mountain driving has been 23.4. Pure hwy 27. Towing a 7k trailer 10-12. With the tuner there is plenty of low end once the turbo spools up but it does lack the high end power of the hemi. Enjoy!

[@VeloceOrangeDesign]

Really great video man. As someone actively looking at 1/2 and 3/4 diesel trucks and learning about diesel motors and maintenance for the first time this is very helpful. My main concern as well has been buying a used diesel truck driven by someone disillusioned that it should be treated and driven like a gas motor, and then discovering clogged DPF, not being warmed up or allowing fuel pump to cycle, etc. Great video and thank you.

[@ramecodiesel8271]

All you need to do is purchase the Green Diesel Engineering Hot Tune/Trans Tune and you will have a entirely new vehicle in the way it drives, the Hot Tune will give you an additional 34 HP and 60 Lbs Ft of torque bumping you to 254 HP and 480 Lbs Ft torque. The GDE tune eliminates the throttle lag you talked about. You also do not have to drive the truck for hours to complete a ReGen of the Diesel Particle Filter my 2019 Ram 1500 Classic Laramie Ecodiesel will complete a ReGen in about 13 miles. The bottom end bearing issue was because FCA specced 5w-30 oil they have since found that the 30 weight oil did not have a strong enough film strength so they changed to 5w-40 oil because the 40 weight oil has a strength film strength to protect the bottom end bearings. A lot of mis information in this video.

[@ktm450sxpro111]

W in oil stands for Winter fyi. If you want a diesel just go with a heavy duty dodge or Chevy. The half ton motors are junk regardless if they are gas or diesel.

[@sonsofliberty3081]

A lot of these issues were addressed before the re release of this motor. Fiat gave it to American engineers and said do it right, we're stepping back. They did and made it better than before. The used over 80% new parts and the block was one of the only things that made it to the new one.

[@preslim84]

what year was the re release?

[@Fab-ec8os]

I heard the main bearing design was left in. I have a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee ecodiesel with 180,000 mile on it still running strong. I'm assuming it wasn't a big problem as everyone is saying. At least I hope so! Lol

[@witkr904]

@@preslim84 I think your are talking about the 2020 Gen 3.

[@paladin11C40]

@@preslim84 The Gen 2 was produced from 2014 to 2018, took 2019 off, then in 2020 brought the Gen 3. If you are looking at the 3.0 diesel in the Grand Cherokee from 2005-2010, that was a Mercedes Benz diesel engine.

[@MickPsyphon]

You should differentiate between the previous generation EcoDiesel, which was the subject of the recall that you mention, and the newest version of the EcoDiesel that was introduced in North America with the current generation RAM trucks in 2019. The two engines are very different, with the newer model being vastly superior in every point that you mentioned.

[@dieselram05]

I’ll keep my old 12 valve Cummins. No computer snd over 435,000 miles. Twelve valves are the best engine ever put in a pickup

[@TheGettyAdventures]

those old Cummins were pretty strong engines. what would be awesome is if those engines used liners so you could easily rebuild them in the chassis.

[@robsnodgrass915]

hear here

[@panthermartin7784]

U turn into an old guy and who the heck wants to hear or smell a 12V anymore.

[@dieselram05]

@@panthermartin7784 it’s a shame these new diesels are so quiet. A old 12 valve will still be running long after most of these newer diesels are gone. And as far as smell? Well it’s a diesel…

[@panthermartin7784]

@@dieselram05 Hell man I understand , been around them my whole life , owned them, worked on them, traded them, sold them, just tonight rolled into my fav elk hunting spot in a PowerWagon, dead quiet, no stink in the air, I dunno, think Im gonna do the gas pot thing for a bit , mind you my buddy just bought a property and in the barn sits a very muddy 91 cummins 1 ton , looks like its been parked for 20 years and he has no interest in keeping the truck... LoL, here we go again.......

[@tonydewaal7581]

Had my bottom end explode at 21,000k. It started as a super light tick on acceleration. Ran it hard trying to make a ferry reservation and when I got off the ferry this slight tick. I noted it right away and took it in for an oil change and had them listen, dealership didn't make note of it. 2 months of this light tick, was cruising started to hear a louder tick like a rock in a tire, but tied to the rpm. Within 15km it got bad, loud knocking. I couldn't get over and shut it off in time and blew a hole in the side of the block. As you said, they replaced the whole engine. 70K on the new engine no problems. I think it's a small number of these from the factory have this issue. A very select few people have had a second engine die on them but the vast majority have been fine. Your right on needing to drive them. 80km a day when I commute and I've never seen the regen message until I did a week of around town driving and saw the message saying it was 80% full and tells me to drive it at highway speeds, it wasn't hours as your mentioning but a good 20-25km to get it the filter back below 20% full. You need to get it fully warm which takes 10km and then put on a good 15km on it to keep the regen from showing. The lag is bad, it's super bad if the truck is cold, and outright horrible if you go up a 20% sloped driveway while cold. The truck wants to shift out of 1st as quickly as possible into 2nd, then cuts the power bringing the truck nearly to a stop and need to mash the petal to get it to shift back down. This environmentally friendly tune kills this engines performance. My 2018 came with this tune that's now been applied to earlier models so I've never known what it's like to have no lag. Everyone says get it tuned which is the plan once the warranty is over. Fixes the lag, more power and a lot better mpg.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

thanks for the info! all in all do you think you would buy the eco diesel again or would you go with something like the HEMI? it is interesting how you said the second engine you received is much better. I wonder if Chrysler did make a fix to the newer engines. only time will tell I guess!

[@tonydewaal7581]

@@TheGettyAdventures Yeah that's what I was leaning towards from what I've gleamed off of forums. They done something in the replacement engines to make sure customers aren't burned twice. I had the identical truck with a hemi, a late production 2013 one of the first to have the 8 speed. The hemi is faster, and will always sound so much better but even with the 4" lift and 35" tires on my ecodiesel the truck still gets better mileage then my hemi did. My 2013 had odd issues with the uconnect system crashing and the truck had chronic brake issues, brakes sticking, pads falling off, bad warped rotors, which my 2018 seems to be completely clear of. The fuel saving was the number one thing I was looking for so I would get the ecodiesel again if I was looking for a half ton truck, even with the lag issue. I would likely pick up a 3rd gen in the new trucks hoping they've addressed these issues in the engines redesign.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

@@tonydewaal7581 funny you mention braking issues. my 2017 truck still has the factory pads and rotors with 91,000km on the thing. over 10,000km of towing. either I have been lucky or they upgraded their factory brakes for the later model trucks Very interesting how you would still go with the Eco diesel but I guess if fuel savings is important, you really can't beat it. I used to drive a 96 chev so when I upgraded to a 2017 hemi I was almost in shock how much more fuel efficient it was compared to the 350 small block in the chev lol either way I appreciate your first hand feedback on the old Eco diesel.

[@chantelrhine8965]

Thrown rod because bad bearing. Lesson to learn when your block is ticking fix it or she gone be missing

[@Fab-ec8os]

I have a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee ecodiesl with 180,000 miles on it still no issues. I also drive it along. Think that's the key oil changes and driving it. Also noticed after the recall there is a lag but good away after warmed up. Love the Jeep. Hopefully it stays that way. Agree the problem is with a small amount of them!

[@vmxg8052]

For bogging, I found with my 2015, that sometimes from a stop it would start in 2nd gear and not first. You can see the gear it is in by quickly pushing the gear+ or gear- button.

[@rkalla]

As a guy that has never had a diesel but always been attracted to the ecodiesel - this video was really helpful (my commutes are VERY short and VERY bursty) - thanks my man!

[@TheGettyAdventures]

thank you, it does seem that consistent short trips (city driving) with this engine causes issues. so unfortunately may not be the best engine option

[@AJ67901]

From the teardowns I've seen on this engine, the failure point was in the main bearings losing oil, then spinning. I can see why Mopar made a spec change in the oil viscosity in order to try and combat this. I had one and it treated me fine, but I was trading fairly often then and traded it in on a new hemi. For me, the additional pain of having to buy DEF and the expensive oil changes just wasn't worth it. I found myself always listening and on the alert for trouble. With the hemi, it's just gas n' go. The vm motori is a cool engine though!

[@baileyhatfield4273]

People always say AH JUNk HEmiS and thEiR Cam LifteER pROblEms. Well, a lot of shops around barely know it's an issue. Let alone it probably not even doing 2% of the vehicles at most. Take care of it, beat it up a little and try not to idle for 15 hours at once. All i can say.

[@isilence4558]

We’re you towing with it? If yes, are you still towing with the hemi?

[@Wozzaatwozza]

I heard it was the oil and they switched to Shell oil. Change the oil often to get the emission cleaning gunk removed, and install oil catch can.

[@omnip0d]

A known issue has been the fact that it takes so long for the new oil to make it into the pan, I've read you want to wait at least 30 minutes before starting it up after an oil change. Imagine that you take the truck into Jiffy Lube, would they be aware of this? They want to get that thing off the rack ASAP.

[@victreyln7195]

@@baileyhatfield4273 I had a lifter replaced and it was the most annoying thing I’ve ever dealt with on a vehicle. It was through warranty.

[@stoneroses13]

I'm interested to buy a 2017 RAM 1500 EcoDiesel with 130K kilometers on it. But after I watched this video, I think this truck is not for me. Usually, I only drive 10 kms everyday.

[@edh4686]

I have a 2015 EcoDiesel and it has been a great truck it has 170000 on it. I drive it everyday and I drive it hard. I tow my boat and my trailer with my truck. It has had a couple of minor issues like the toner wheel and a couple O2 sensors but it was all covered under the extended free warranty for doing the update. Also got a $3,500 settlement check from Dodge for the lawsuit from the government and for doing the update also. I do all my own oil changes and I do them before 10000 miles. I buy my oil filter and fuel filter off of eBay and I get Rotella oil every time. I drive this truck so much that I have worn out my driver side seat pad and have to replace it. The only thing that's ever been customised on this would be the cold air intake. This has been an excellent truck.

[@TheGettyAdventures]

pays to drive these things hard. folks who tend to take this engine to get groceries and back usually aren't having the same luck!

[@deerking45]

I've had all 3 generations of this motor.... all of these problems are mostly for the first gen motors. My first gen 2015 had 290k miles when I traded it for the second gen ecodiesel had it 6 months and it was great. Ran it up to 130k miles and i got hit and totaled it out. Now I got a 3rd gen ecodiesel jeep and at 15k I've had good luck. My first gen had emissions issues and I deleted it. Only reason I got rid of it is because the trans lost 3rd and 5th gears.

[@thomascunningham3342]

I bought my 16 back in 18. It had 27k miles. I've had not 1 issue. I'm at 160k miles now. I never had the recall done to it. On 33's I'm getting 26 mpg. I love mine and will be looking into getting a new eco in the future

[@TheGettyAdventures]

man a lot of folks are saying they love their eco diesels. I'm not an owner so I can only go off second experience but a lot of people love them. I personally would buy another Hemi before the Eco diesel but no engine is perfect so pick your poison I guess

[@jackb9812]

If you didn’t do the recall you didn’t get the $3750

[@TheGettyAdventures]

@@jackb9812 really?? okay so apparently in Canada you weren't able to get any money either way. but for almost 4k I'd probably get it done as well

[@jackb9812]

@@TheGettyAdventures Yes the US govt levied huge fines and the owners got $3750. But you had to do the recall and file a claim . Took several months but obviously worth it.

[@swampkat7074]

Mines the same 2016 on 33s and did the recall and back and forth from the shop cause of the def issues

[@samcox8391]

So I’m looking at the Ram Eco 3.0L vs the GMC Duramax 3.0L 2020. Both I have found have less than 50k miles. I have a commute everyday for work 84 miles round trip. It’s all highway there and I have to pull a lighter load (4-6k lbs) here and there. My silverado 6.2L just had the camshaft break (104k miles) and I’m tired of the laundry list of its issues. Does anyone have an opinion on either engine?

[@mikestowe6136]

800 bucks at green diesel engineering n it will run so much better

[@Oldmanflyfishing]

Excellent review. I bought a 2015 eco diesel 3 months ago. It’s been in the shop, three times now with engine lights, electric throttle control sensor, exhaust filter 100%, and now once again engine light on. Love the truck but I can’t afford to maintain it. 1000 dollars every time is to much for a 2015

[@SPHINX144]

Being that is out of warranty, you should have done a full delete immediately and never have those problems again.

[@Oldmanflyfishing]

@@SPHINX144 I should have done my research.