Ramaphosa divides Zulu royal family - Prince Thokozani

[@patmdoda9567]

This will be the first time Ramaphosa losses a case in court. He has key people in key positions

[@denniskeagile2535]

What benefit does the president get. I think people are becoming petty and politicising this when not necessary. It is the Zulu kingdom that is causing all problems themselves - call it affiliation - but bottom line is that Simakhade was adopted simple and straight forward. He was not born by Queen Mantombi

[@bongilemayaba2333]

It is not the issue of adoption or not It is Section 8 subsection 4 and 5 the king or an Inkosi is appointed by the family. Sometimes I ask myself why was the Act drafted if it is the automatic right.

[@UbukaOnline]

​@@denniskeagile2535he is not adopted but his mother not born from the royal family but King MisuZulu born from the Swaziland royal family. Thokozanis mother is not married to Zulu kingdom. His mother was Past kings girl friend he has no right even to say something. Thokozani was supposed to go to kzn provimcial office as premier but because of the huge amount of money for Zulu kingdom he decided to surrender and come back home to fight for what anc is depositing to royal house.

[@thapelolengana]

If I was Ramaphosa I would appeal too, the judgement says the President did not follow legislated procedure of appointment. This is an indictment on the president. The zulu Royal House must sort their issues

[@andiledabula7272]

But he failed to follow due process. Instead of allowing the Royal family the space to sort out the impasse, he displayed bias.

[@thapelolengana]

@andiledabula7272 According to you he shows bias, I don't agree with you. He must be allowed his jurisprudence to appeal. He is appealing exactly what you are saying. The appeal is about proving that he followed protocol stated in the law

[@Botshelo93]

Well said.

[@PeterMashapa]

How? Can you please elaborate 🙏🙏🙏

[@thefairobserver97]

THIS KINGDOM IS AN EMBARASSMENT TO ALL COUNTRY! THEY HAVE PROBLEMS FOR CENTURIES WITH REGARDS TO A KING COMING TO THE THRONE! WE SHOULD STOP FUNDING THEM WITH THOSE R 70 MILLION/YEAR. THE COURT CERTAINLY HAS ENOUGH EVIDENCES. LET HIM CHALLENGE THE RULING. IT WAS ALWAYS CLEAR THAT THERE IS A PRCEDENT THAT MUST NOW BE CONSIDERED WHIC OVERRIDES THAT NARRATIVE THAT LOBOLO WAS PAID BY THE NATION AND THE QUEEN CAME FROM A ROYAL FAMILY.

[@BrianWilliams03]

Ramaphosa must just stay away from the monarch and let the family deal with the matter internally... the problem with Ramaphosa is that he wants to use Misizulu for political reasons and he doesn't care about the family. The monarch family must be given space to deal with this matter internally, and once they are done, then they will announce who the king is🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻 The courts must not be used to resolve internal family matters such as who is the rightful king... culture must be followed

[@molokomack9855]

He is doing what the constitution says he must.

[@percyzikhali3599]

Clearly you do not understand what's happing here, Ramaphosa must officiate the king even if it was not Misuzulu but however that would be appointed by the family...he was gonna inaugurate him. So, how is that being an interference?

[@BrianWilliams03]

@percyzikhali3599 my point is Ramaphosa must give the family space to deal with the matter... my argument is that he rushed to endorse Misizulu even when it was clear there were disputes at that time and two concurrent ceremonies were happening 🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻 So Ramaphosa should have given the family space to deal with their issues. This is not about who is the king, is about allowing family to resolve their internal matters. Majority might believe Misizulu is the rightful heir, though his rightfulness got challenged and that's where the government should have stayed away... Ramaphosa went ahead to endorse Misizulu even when there were disputes happening and that's undermining the Royal family. The Royal family must come out in one voice and declare someone as their king, at the moment there are family members who think otherwise because they think right cultural processes were not followed.

[@jameskillu9171]

why did the king hire boers who cant speak isizulu, as advocates. Are there no Zulus who can defend his throne in court

[@BrianWilliams03]

@jameskillu9171 probably he think the courts are lenient towards pink ass boers 🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻

[@lawrencendlovu3013]

King Misuzulu is the king of the Zulu in this era and that will not change what so ever he will remain the king

[@PeterMashapa]

It changed That's why we are having this discussion now😂😂😂😂 Everything must be reversed ASAP

[@fanamlawuli6761]

Wubani wena konje?

[@basilntokozo]

My view is that the contesting of the throne is jealousy towards Queen MaDlamini Mantfombi ka Sobhuza . There are women behind this whole shenanigan niyongibuza

[@makhosazanemweli]

🤞

[@Technology24]

This guy blames everyone except himself.They want the tax money

[@ntando1692]

Chief you speaking rubbish we were told we must vacate our forefather's place through misizulu karamaphosa just recently so if it doesn't impacts you futseg and shut up.

[@buhlezulu3230]

😂😂 this one is an idiot ilento ekuthiwa isiphukuphuku.

[@thembimaseko9600]

We are in trouble hungry stomachs.

[@kgothatsomagongwa1283]

I agree these guys only care about government perks. They’re hungry!

[@madodayende2603]

He himself(Thokozane) called prince Smakade a King , then now said Indlulamithi (King Misuzulu kaZwelithini Zulu) was a King through the certificate 🤷. Imfishimfishi ke le eshiwo ilobhuti.

[@MKL_D]

😂😂😂😂as if Ramaphosa is the one who chose the king. They must sort their ish out, yhey were already divided.

[@hallaback2010]

He was supposed to make sure that all processes were followed. This is like a police officer certifying a forged document. You can't say "as if he was the one who forged it"...😂😂

[@patmdoda9567]

​@@hallaback2010But Misuzulu didn't steal his position

[@hallaback2010]

@@patmdoda9567 then he shouldn't find it difficult to go back and do the process correctly as the court asks for them... Let's wait and see what the investigative committee will come up with.

[@patmdoda9567]

@@hallaback2010 I don't think there is any need to go back sort the process. The ones who want the process to be sorted out are the MaMzobes of the Zulu Kingdom, they want to get to the throne by hook or crook

[@hallaback2010]

@@patmdoda9567 well, tell that to the courts then. The court and some of the late king's siblings disagree with you.

[@njabulokhabako5990]

We owe umtwana uThokozane bigtime on this matter. A majority wont appreciate now, but one day you will. Thank you Sir for standing for the truth.

[@mtetelelimrwetyana2002]

Lo wafakwa, but the real one is born, we pray for the royal family to allow king real to do His duties

[@bathong-707]

Misuzulu is the rightful king of Zulu nation these fools they are just anarchists

[@qalas7327]

Thokozani Msweli must shutup !! He is not a Zulu Prince.

[@dannym7593]

Same thing as when Zuma endorsed Tony Mphephu Ramabulana as king of Vhavenda without following due processes

[@molokomack9855]

The prince must leave our president alone. The royal family is divided on its own. We all hear what is happening there including allegations of poisoning. The president did what was right according to Pietermaritzburg high court judgement.

[@sibongilemabaso2250]

Ramaphosa never appointed king Misizulu but jugde Madondo gave president midizulu, s name as the right king for zulu nation, president did nothing wrong 😢😮

[@nhlakaniphohlelakazulu5763]

You think

[@muziwenhlanhladlamini4990]

Thokozani and his people shame. Misuzulu is the king of the Zulus. Senior Prince Smakade and his team will continue to enrich the law-firms but they will never will the Zulu nation as a whole. They can win. in court but us Zulu nation we know who is the King. The history tells it all we can't change our grand fathers decision Mr Msweli is not even the part of the Royal family but he is busy calling him self a member royal family. Custom of ukufakwa esiswini is performed when there is no boy child in that house. As senior prince Smakade was affiliated to the kwaKhangela he becomes the youngest son of Indlovukazi he can't be an eldest son while indlovukazi has already had sons only if she didn't have son then Smakade was gonna be the first son but on this situation he can't be the eldest son of the great queen because she already had her sons. Smakade becomes a last born.

[@nomusamazibuko7846]

There is only one king and that is King Misuzulu. This Thokozani is jst out of order may be Smakade promised him something mnxxm

[@mandlakhemthiyane6]

Royal devider. This prince should be ashamed of himself. He is the one who devided Zulus right from the scratch. He never accepted the outcomes of the Royal meeting. Where did he get the mandate to do that. Uyisihlava ewumuntu wasebukhosini obuhlonishwa kangaka. Mana njalo King Misuzulu. You may not accept him as the King, of which, we do. We are fully behind him, Bayede Hlanga lomhlabathi. Bayede Zinyane lamKhosi. Sibuse, usihole, singabakho.

[@tselengngaka6830]

What exactly is his interest on the matter?

[@rudolfhough6226]

As i understand this news. While accepting the Zulu nation,s new King a government judge says a committee somewhere must investigate something before the government will respond to the king on a political level. It is very clear that if the ANC government do not want to respond to the king on a political level while it is going to expropriate the land of the King without compensation (as is its stated policy and mission) then of what land will the King be a King if there is no border and the right to land taken away. That is why the ANC is dragging this matter out. The longer this matter takes the more chance of violence next year through some other matter that the media will blow up and then ignore this matter of Kingship all while disposing of the matter quietly behind the scenes. Governments and kings do not go together well. This government is finished and war is not a good thing. Whatever happens we will be on the side of the Zulu King.

[@MmetxaRuth-sp7km]

I agree this is a dangerous move from the government's side. If this is prolonged and The Zulu Kingdom feel unrecognised in this country difficult decisions will have to be made.

[@sifisodube4686]

This guy is crazy he remains a king it doesn’t mean the decision of the court I removes misuzulu

[@maliwanhlanhla9329]

These guys don't have a claim if their claim is motivated by a technical strategy such as adoption

[@KwatuistM]

If the king is not appointed by the state, why are they using state institutions to appoint Prince Simakade as king? They must decide whether they are South African or independent Zulu kingdom. Not half-half.

[@mapitsithamaga-xn3oi]

Those that are finding the monach relevant and useful let them worry, what do royal families in SA do for the communities?

[@zanele434]

The royal family isn't the political parties that you vote for🙄.If you don't understand their significance then keep quiet 🙄.

[@thabomatjiu3473]

They own a vast amount of land but they can't utilise it for the people instead they rely on governments annual R78 million grant.At least the Bafokeng kingdom support themselves and their nation, they don't rely on governments grant.

[@thabomatjiu3473]

They own a vast amount of land but they can't utilise it for the people instead they rely on governments annual R78 million grant.At least the Bafokeng kingdom support themselves and their nation, they don't rely on governments grant.

[@Stizo2002]

Zero

[@luckymonau7426]

On point buddy

[@Amathandos]

Thokoza is crazy....who was appointed by the state and by an outsider? The Regent Queen MaNtfombi made it clear who to sit on the throne. She was the Great wife from a Royal family. Smakade gang, they have pushed focus to Ramaphosa and Mr Buthelezi. What about the King Zwelithini and Regent Queen MaNtfombi? They think we are fools. Smakade was born out of wedlock, Queen MaNtfombi with kind heart, took him in, only if she knew that Smakade will grow up to be anaconda in her family. Smakade mother remains a girlfriend.

[@zwelisibiya3707]

Queen was never supposed to rule because king Zwelithini had sons who were over 20 years old mistakes started there...

[@zwelisibiya3707]

Prince smakade is born by mafthombi via traditional function that was done by King Zwelithini

[@Amathandos]

@@zwelisibiya3707 ....born is a physical thing....ukufakwa esiswini is adopting a child to a certain household. King Zwelithini did not to carry that shame that he has a child outside (,just my thought 💭) who know It could be other wives refused to raise Smakade. Wamufaka esiswini, but the truth remains Smakade has his father royal blood but King Misuzulu is a Royalty both parents from Royal home. Unless they did a blood transfusion after esefakiwe esiswini soka Queen MaNtfombi. King Zwelithini bother Mbonisi has another person in mind for the throne. It proves Smakade will never be the King of the Zulu. Smakade should be ashame of himself. Only if Queen MaNtfombi knew wafakwa inyoka esiswini sakhe I am sure she was not going to do it.

[@zanele434]

Hebanna Ramaphosa didn't appoint the King but culture appointed King Misuzulu.A king is born and not appointed.Ramaphosa only endorsed a process that had occured through cultural practice.

[@gambu4810]

That would be rubbish, King Simakade Isilo samabandla

[@sthobedladla9807]

"HLALA PHANSI THOKOZANI" KWAYISHOLO UMNTWANA KAPHINDANGENE 😂

[@mndenibuthelezi5360]

hlala phansi wena

[@khaya7272]

Uyaganga u Thokozani

[@abbeyndlovu1638]

With respect. Who is dividing the Zulu nation? Ramaphosa is not divisive. The statement is premature, unfortunately and sad. We love our Leaders, the Royal family, but some are reckless and not behaving like they should. Sadly 😢

[@fin2-em2mf]

ke STHEMBU....Period

[@brmaila6]

Leave Ramaphosa alone. What happens in Kzn, is exactly what happened in Sekhukhune, Bapedi kingship. Since from 1975 until 2022. The problem is always with the family members. It's sad when they drag people into their disputes. The bottom line is always money. Ramaphosa is a scapegoat. Even in Sekhukhune, they blame. The family is the problem.

[@gambu4810]

Why is the President appealing? He should let the two parties solve it. If he appeals, he announces himself as a party

[@sifisodube4686]

Why people are blaming Ramaphosa crazy leave him alone crazy South Africans

[@Sharon2389]

The Zulu nation have chosen their king, you and your brother can stay home there and be your own kings in your house live us alone people are going to end up disliking you completely

[@sifisodube4686]

People like to blame Ramaphosa every time crazy

[@hallaback2010]

That's what comes with being a leader.

[@siasmoise661]

He lacks character and credibility since from the time when he was a leader of the National Union of Mine Workers (NUM).Visit the history.

[@akachillas6437]

People has nothing to do with this is the court that blames ramaphosa by disagreeing with his interfering decision into the royal matter.try not tobe personal/not to personalize matters n see the truth as it is

[@percyzikhali3599]

Clearly people does not understand some of the most important things. Ramaphosa inaugurated King Misuzulu based on the resolutions from the Zulu royal gatherings... again the President acted according to the recommendations of commission that endorsed Misuzulu to be the King.

[@mzansitrash]

Just like people blamed Zuma for everything

[@LindaniNdawonde]

Mina ngokwami ukubona akuyiwe eswazini kuyo thengelwa usmakade iswazi ngoba number 1 yalensangu yakwa zulu ayise zwakali kahle kuye inga phela yonke lento yokuthi ehambe egaqela izikhundla akanga belong kuzo nawe baba Thokozani uqhatha izingane umdala kangaka uyadina nawe men yeses ukhohlakele if zingalwa lezingane igazi lazo liyobuzwa ezandleni zakho baba ndini ongena nqondo

[@bongilemayaba2333]

Those who are saying the King comes from the bride that was paid by the Zulu Nation. When did that start to be practise? If the culture has not been in practice for nearly 70 years you do not called that Cultue. What we know about the Zulu Kings non of them were born by Princess or paid by the Nation.

[@nonozi4147]

That was an agreement they made with King Sobhuza when they went to pay for the laye queen's lobola. I agree Misuzulu is not fit to be king (his behavior) but that does not take away his birth right.

[@bongilemayaba2333]

I guess if being born by the Princess is the guarantee for any one to be the king lets change Section 8 (4) and (5) of the Traditional leadership Act. That the King is appointed by the family.

[@HuniTiffany-vs9jr]

Good day. As has been the trend dating back 500 years, the European settlers have appointed the kings of big African tribes in accordance with their preference. Any heire to the throne who threatened their interests was either kept out of power or killed. Did monopoly capital interests in South Africa approach the current Zulu king during the riots and looting two years ago? Did they request his intervention?

[@moonloon5859]

And these kings and chiefs had the choice to say yes or no. Don't always deflect blame because that is how corruption and graft multiply.

[@jjdlamini7056]

Uyadakwa Thokozani

[@mandlamhambi6756]

Nonsense Sir! Rubbish this is a useless interview never bring this man back again. How is Ramaphosa involve here…

[@sifisodube4686]

Xholi mgambi his so useless stupid jeounalist

[@SamSam-hz5mf]

The agenda never end 😢

[@johnlouw6449]

Ramaphosa never does anything without a reason. Being the manipulator that he is he chose not to act as a mediator instead he chose the law which suited him.

[@MpenduloNtuta-tp2jb]

What I like about Thokozani is starking to answer the questions of the presenter coz he knows the truth.the big problem all thou they work as if they smakade to be the king'bt they know they are not after that their big mission is to callarpse the kingship because of their fathers and forefathers were not kings all eye must be open

[@phumlamazibuko3003]

Imali impande yesono

[@akachillas6437]

As a good leader you must always be neutral untill the final decision is made available to you to take a decision so ramaphosa enjoys taking sides n think as a president his decision is final hating others

[@BreachRepaira]

A name was submitted to Ramaphosa by the Royal family, supported by the Zulu Prime Minister and Minister Dlamini-Zuma, representing COGTA, so get ur facts straight please. Uyeke ukudonswa ngekhala ungazi nokuthi uthini

[@ManJay3220]

There is no way IVEZANDLEBE becomes a KING full stop.

[@zethembekhambule8899]

😂😂😂ukuba ubungeve ubhala ugcwele intukuthelo, ubungeke ukhulume into engenanqondo. Hlisa ulaka, bese uyakhulumake.

[@ManJay3220]

@@zethembekhambule8899 ushayekhona Zethembe ngizokwenzenjalo🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@zethembekhambule8899]

@@ManJay3220 kuyabongeka mft, kuvele kwacaca nje mawubiza umuntu ozalwa intombi ngevezandlebe, ukuthi uthukuthele.

[@ManJay3220]

@@zethembekhambule8899 🤣🤣🤣🤣kunjalo impela nokho umoya sewehlile ngokuncedwa uwena mfowethu.

[@mthobisipm]

Kunjalo... ✊

[@fumbathantshakaza7354]

Why Ramaphosa is even considering to review the judgement let the Royal family deal with its matters

[@lethumngadi2892]

Good move Cyril ramaposa royal family failed they only care about money nothing else the king is on the throne finish ,,,don't let any blood shed by allowing so called royal family to use throne as money making scheme

[@khaltsharivist365]

That will be dereliction of duty. If the royal family were capable of sorting out this issue it would not have gone to court.

[@TavoelFreeman-gn5ho]

I like the way Shaka did his business as being in the know and getting facts it the oldest ladies of wisdom by traditional way back in then to now from south Africa to the top the all respect it with no blood shaded now with all do respect it being going on we can't hide it or fear to be believers of the ones who help the King Shaka we know it no game at all and others grow do to help Africa as a whole others royal family's all in Africa thanks for all the help

[@innocentkunene9490]

If the president don't provide leadership you will also blame him for not blessing your favorite king to be tomorrow. He should appeal you put him in this mess😊

[@roshneeshunmagum1945]

NO ONE SHOULD INTERFERE IN ZULU BUSINESS. ITS NOT YOUR PROBLEM. ROYALTY WILL BE ROYALTY. THEY MUST SORT THIS IN HOUSE PROBLEMS AMONG THE ELDERS AND FAMILIES. THATS IT!!! WHO INVOLVED THE COURTS AND LAWYERS AND PRESIDENTS IS A OUTWRIGHT COWARD.

[@mqaphenibuthelezi2709]

Since when ukufakwa esiswini kweza umuntu abemdala kwabazalwa yilowomama it's got nothing to do with that ukuthi azi ukuthi izinto zakhe uzezela kuyiphi indlu kwazise unina usuke engagidanga manje Umntwana udukisa isizwe nje

[@AdelaideKweyama]

Simakade does not have features of a king.😫

[@XolaniNdlovu-d9f]

Your comment is Laughable

[@Sp8e]

Did you say Misuzulu?

[@mzansitrash]

​@@Sp8eyeah I think he meant misizulu😂

[@Userde989]

Misizulu

[@Sakhephi]

Since Smakade looks exactly like his father, you mean the late king did not look like a king?

[@jonasmatsea6325]

But the committee which the President will make will still reaffirm what we already know, that is, Misizulu as, the King of Zulus. Investigative committee is just the formality And the earlier the President forms it, the Better

[@sizwelungambethe6485]

Masithandezeleni Amazulu nekumkani uMISIZULU uThixo uthi eli liyelenqe lokuzama ukuchitha isizwe samaZulu, kwaye kukho isandla semfene kubaphathi abaseburhulumenteni abamdaka obagcolileyo .UThixo uthi masithandazeni maAfrica ngenxa kaZULU.

[@king7324]

The fact that our traditional matters are now discussed in courts instead of being discussed in the royal house by elders. As a country we are lost. imagine a white judge is looking into this matter, what does a white judge knows about the history of the Zulu's

[@mafetolelalebea007]

Auwa is not make sure From Mt understanding is that if non of the wives did not come from any royal family the first born of the married wives would take over but if one was from royal family the boy from that woman would be king , they brought the matter to court now they are crying that Ramaphosa is arguing the matter It's Normal ishlalo will be contested for a long time to come

[@xosanjosh-t8709]

So Simakade was ftraditionally made the adult child of the queen. In Zulu that is done for purposes of him taking over the reins as a next leader. I am clear with this. This is not stupid as many would think. This is how i understand about our cultural laws, are so clever. Sounds like misizulu came 2nd even to his father. I guess if this is true.

[@ntombi3171]

That doesn't happen if the Queen has her OWN SONS...😮

[@xosanjosh-t8709]

@@ntombi3171 That's generally understably even by president. It seems Zulus don't all want to go with status-quo. There is something more than this. What is to ukwamnkela umntwana kwisizalo somntu. I thought it's all on making him rightful for packs that come that come with it unconditionally.

[@phumzilensele302]

RAMAPHOSA as a venda must not involve himself in ZULU NATION AFFAIRS JUST

[@khaltsharivist365]

That’s not how it works. South Africa is a republic. The Zulu monarch is subject to the constitution of the land. Like many former European colonies it’s a non-sovereign monarch, they are funded by the government and so all traditional leaders getting a stipend from the state are subject to the head of state just as they were during apartheid.

[@HawahKachepa]

It's sad to have a leader who says this and when he woke up and says that.

[@bugalohulela511]

Simakade will be this mans puppet..That is why he is pushing for him so much

[@lethumngadi2892]

Smakade is the last born cos was born out of wedlock

[@jameskillu9171]

saying a child is born out of wedlock, is child abuse,

[@NthatiMotsabi]

Smakade is the first born therefore he supposed to be a king just like shaka

[@jobesithole5590]

Hahaa. Was Ilembe who founded the Zulu nation born in wedlock ? You people like coming to these platforms to speak nonsense.

[@lethumngadi2892]

@@NthatiMotsabi you not a Zulu so you don't know

[@NthatiMotsabi]

@@lethumngadi2892 I am not a Zulu but I know that Smakade is the king 👑 just like Shaka

[@kgothatsomagongwa1283]

South Africa wants to be a big player in the global/ international arena. Many children are still dying of malnutrition, unemployment rate is still high, we have the highest income inequality in the world and now we have entertain these guys fighting over our Tax money. These guys only care about their own stomachs and gov..perks that comes with this throne. Cry my beloved country!

[@mlungisimzobe7906]

Prince Thokozani Zulu is delusional. He conceded to two crucial determining factors that should taken into account. Then goes on to make it seem as if the custom "yokufakwa esiswini" supersedes being born by the Queen Mother.

[@mydownloadsnkambule309]

You are correct in fact the people who are dividing the Zulu nation is prince Thokozani and his friends. All the Zulu people know that the king is born. Indlulamithi is born of the royalty and uMtanenkosi's lobolo was paid by the Zulu nation, so nobody can just come after that and the Zulu people that Indlulamithi is not the king. Indlulamithi is the king of the Zulu nation and that is backed by tradition and customs.

[@nhlakaniphohlelakazulu5763]

Unfortunately it does, history tells us

[@botumileseleke2712]

This chap Thokozani forgets that they were also going to appeal if they lost the case..now the President is exercising his constitutional rights to lodge an appeal...

[@ManJay3220]

Exactly!!

[@ntando1692]

Uyahlanya wena

[@sibongilechakela4468]

Everything that ranko touches turns black... Ramaphosa has destroyed everything

[@molokomack9855]

Stop calling the president like useless disrespectful do. Why can we e civil for a change?

[@BreachRepaira]

​@@molokomack9855God bless you, Ramaphosa is still the Head of State. 2. A name was submitted to Ramaphosa after Madondo ruling and he did what the law said he must do, whether there were issues between the Royal family, that's not his own.

[@fin2-em2mf]

why associate blackness with bad things????

[@BreachRepaira]

@sibongilechakela4468 This argument that everything that is wrong in our country is Ramaphosa's fault needs to stop. In essence, when you say, everything, you mean, even when your toilet is blocked, it's Ramaphosa's fault. Ramaphosa cannot wake up every morning and ensure that Home Affairs officials are not taking bribes at every home affairs building. He can't ensure that traffic officers and police are enforcing the law and not taking bribes. He can't ensure that Johannesburg water and Eskom personnel actually conduct the necessary maintenence on infrastructure instead of waiting until last minute. He cant ensure that when your neighbour is a criminal and you know about it, that you'll go report him/her to the police........ I can go on forever. When we'll we as a society start taking responsibility for the mess we see all around us????

[@IanGrahamThomas]

Does Cyril Ramaphosa have nothing better to do while the country is failing because of his party?

[@umsamostudios-ns4jo]

Xoli, you need also to bring the lawyer Adv Dobson to give the public the legalities of the judgement and implications thereof

[@wallawootes5809]

Ramaphsa is right to appeal and this guy he is not making sense by trying to blame Cyril. The royal family is already divided. It was the leaders of the royal family who told Cyril that Misuzulu is their king. The process of recognising a king by state was not flawed

[@katlegoboshomane-b3x]

If previous king was appointed in affiliate way in those days there was no one married by the nation there was no other kingdom was involved like these problem

[@Nzamekazi]

Where was Prince Simakade before King Misizulu , this really dent our culture as Abantu abantsundu always fighting for power especial iinkosi neekumkani ziyazalwa why courts in now days,yhooo!!!

[@fredbantu3694]

These ppl cant sort out their own issues now they want to blame outsiders please stop it. The zulu Royals need the courts ( Roman Dutch ) to help them ,how pathetic where are African systems ? They knew this day was coming but did nothing.

[@hlengiwembambo3572]

Uthokozani uyafosa, angazi bebelindeleni ngampela ubukeka ediniwe ngoku appeala kwamongameli.

[@khaltsharivist365]

How did uShaka get the throne from Sigujana? How did he lose it to Dingane and how did it move to Mpande line? The throne has always been fought for. The fact that this is playing out in a Roman Dutch court & seeking remedy there shows that the Kingdom is subject to the constitution and that is the supreme law of the land. The spears & blood letting have made way for constitutionality. Traditions, culture and this and the third if not aligned or in harmony to the constitution will not hold water.

[@bongilemayaba2333]

From King Shaka Dingane Mpade Cetswayo Dinizulu Phumuzulu Cyprian and King Zwelithini non come from this so called culture King Zwelithini's mother Mathomo Ndwandwe no Nation payed for her. Those who tell us about this Culture why it was not followed in all this kings.

[@NtokozoPearlKhaula-et3vi]

We already have a King thina.

[@lebotab22]

Good questions Xoli, the devided Kwa Zulu Natal Royal House, could or should have resolved the matter amongst themselves not court, and to dethrone King Missizulu, which is the rightful King to the throne, will be a big mistake, and what will happen to R95 Million allocated to the Royal House from Presidency and who will pay committee to investigate?, maybe Tax Player's money?.😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@veronicamwelase1244]

Nothing wrong with mongameli akusiyo inkosi yephepha lo eyohlanga ayivotela yazalwa wena uhlukanisa phakathi uzulu awuhloniphi.

[@mandlamhambi6756]

Please refer to him as King Miszilu not a Prince

[@fin2-em2mf]

These are the results of STHEMBU... if it wasnt for king zwelithini's womanising ways , the zulu royal house wouldnt be in this mess...

[@somnandizwidetv]

One normal Venda boy devides not just a Zulu family but the most powerful Royal family in Africa 😅😅😅 divided by one Venda guy 😂😂😂

[@kaizersuze9000]

Yes Rama and his anc even devided S.A with dirty politics

[@fin2-em2mf]

they were divided by Sthembu....if you remove sthembu, there will be no confusion...just like in britain

[@mazandlovu8174]

uyasibhedela nje lothokozani wenu noma ngabe uramaphosa akangenelelanga noma ngabe ungenelelile akukho okwakuzovimba ingane kamantfombi dlamini zulu ukuthi ibe isilo sebeyacika labantu abalobe befosa uzikhundla okungezona ezabo and to make it worse bonke laba abalobe befuna lesikhundla esikude nabo amavezandlebe osimakade thokozani mbonisi bonke llabo amazalwela khaya engabe bayolwela amafa akomalume babo bahlukane nokulobe bebhibhidla beyisicefe ezweni sokwanele akekho obavimbile vele banalo uhlangothi lwabo ababekane bodwa

[@JohnHaze4666]

Always looking for someone to blame, first it was mangosuthu now Ramaphosa.

[@percymvubelo4261]

Money money that's what this two are after, Prince Sma and Prince Tk

[@sifisodube4686]

This guy his busy saying eeeeeeeeeeee crazy

[@fin2-em2mf]

These are the results of STHEMBU... if it wasnt for king zwelithini's womanising ways , the zulu royal house wouldnt be in this mess...

[@denniskeagile2535]

I have a problem with Xoli Mngambi the way he conducts interviews where the state or the president is concerned. I mean why couldn't he ask why is it wrong for President Cyril Ramaphosa to appeal when the Simakhade faction took the matter to court. I mean how does the president become part of the Zulu royal squabbles when he's not even a Zulu. If anything Prince Thoko Ani Zulu is guilty of electioneering himself.

[@ericnqobilengwenya9460]

Simakade and his friends bajikilanga ngabantu abasithukuthezi

[@KKOPPONG]

Why does the President even have something to do with this? What do politics have to do with the President? TF is going on with our constitution? Why’s it so intrusive?

[@sibongilemabaso2250]

Ramaphosa gas already logged an appeal 😢

[@ronaldmamaru4242]

If the mother of MisiZulu was paid lobola and married by the Zulu nation then he qualified to be the king.

[@mandlamhambi6756]

Lol this man you have been fighting for a long time…

[@nathinathi303g]

As South African m concern government should stop funding this Zulu nation, let it stand on its own, our government should not get involved in traditional things nothing special about Zulu nation they same as other kingship we have all over the country.

[@EFF2UnionBuilding]

Ramaphosa isn’t known for thinking much about the ramifications on anything. Why are you surprised? Vote EFF and you won’t be complaining every day.

[@lunganinoah2959]

Prince Thokozani uthi inkosi ifanele iphume kwakhangela core Zulu royal family bathi umntwana uBuza,yiyo ingonyama,

[@mosesmkt7561]

Prince here is confused he says Misuzulu is not a king until the president launches appeal, he literally means court or president that determine who the king is. As far as we know the Zulu ceremony of anointing the king happened long before Ramaphosa could recognise him. Misuzulu was made a king and Coronation ceremony was made a proof

[@Sbahlemp]

Smakade will be a prince till he die

[@lancencube5205]

Whatever Ramaposa touches turns into disaster

[@ZodwaMaseko-q2g]

Is the Zulu nation paying this Zulu royal family or is it us South Africans and why?.

[@mandlaveyi3411]

but the same thokozani is from msweli how is he then a prince......nabantwana bamadikazi bazii nkosi?

[@givenmasingi1785]

The president never appointed the king the royal family started to b divided after isilo singasekho emhlabeni

[@Sp8e]

What qualifies a king. Be sensical about it. Looks, who your mom is? Come on...guys. as it stands the Zulu family is against misuZulus appointment. The smakade guy is not on his own, the family is backing him. You should ask yourself why.

[@MbongiseniRichardGadlela]

Uyena lo uSimakade Lona ohlukanisa isizwe sakwaZulu .inkosi ayibekwa iyazalwa .uSimakade unomoya omubi ngusathane .noba angaze athini iciniso limile inkosi iyazalwa .vele umuntu angaze afakwe esiswini nisuke nithethe inyoka nayifaka endlini.

[@zethembekhambule8899]

😂😂😂mhlambe phakathi kwethu nje, awungihlebele. Ubani ongazalwanga?

[@msimisidlamini88]

@@zethembekhambule8899don’t take it literally.. this is used to refer to idea that “Kings are born kings” if you are not a King you never be one.

[@bongiwedorcas1754]

Uyagula uThokozani shame kahambe ayofa

[@muduo44]

Hlalaphansi!!!

[@ThembinkosiMthembu-hm5kh]

they just wasting their time n money kingship wont change

[@SiphamandlaNgubane-ic8gf]

Mr Thokozani Zulu (SA Citizen)